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Herateis Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.10.21 03:37:22 - [1] - Quote Same as topic. I want to clear out some people using alt miners for principled reasons. What bounty is good enough to compensate you for your time? I'm not expecting directed attacks, just want to give incentives for people you might run across in 0.7-0.5 sec.
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 The Conference Elite CODE. 559	Posted - 2014.10.21 04:46:00 - [2] - Quote Wouldn't it be cheaper just to get a permit? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Formerly Known As AC The Conference Elite CODE. 563	Posted - 2014.10.21 04:46:17 - [3] - Quote Wouldn't it be cheaper just to get a permit? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Ria Nieyli 21907	Posted - 2014.10.21 05:04:35 - [4] - Quote Formerly Known As AC wrote: Wouldn't it be cheaper just to get a permit? Can you read? Mirrored eyes
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1727	Posted - 2014.10.21 05:07:41 - [5] - Quote You're going to have to be a little more specific than that.
Max Deveron Deveron Shipyards and Technology 59	Posted - 2014.10.21 05:28:04 - [6] - Quote Seems to be asking how much of a bounty would it take to gank specific individuals/groups whilst traveling.........at least thats how i interpret the title and what OP is saying.
Shailagh Rose The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.10.21 05:51:57 - [7] - Quote A fitted ship and tip.
Herateis Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.10.21 08:38:04 - [8] - Quote Max Deveron wrote: Seems to be asking how much of a bounty would it take to gank specific individuals/groups whilst traveling.........at least thats how i interpret the title and what OP is saying. This. It's like if you're on your way to gank already, what kind of bounty would get your attention to find and gank a miner you come across instead of going to your original destination.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10158	Posted - 2014.10.21 13:18:35 - [9] - Quote Roll into the minerbumping channel (you should be able to guess the password), tell them where these guys are, and dangle a few billion in front of them. See if that works. They recently did a Megathron smartbomb ambush on a guy with two dozen Procurers, I can imagine that is a feat worth repeating if it's possible. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 585	Posted - 2014.10.21 13:45:24 - [10] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: They recently did a Megathron smartbomb ambush on a guy with two dozen Procurers, I can imagine that is a feat worth repeating if it's possible. Wait a second...they pipe bombed...a Procurer fleet? Oh good lord, this I must find on the killboards.... EDIT: Here it is. Well played CODE., well played indeed.... CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content.

Christopher Mabata Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project 316	Posted - 2014.10.21 14:41:38 - [11] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: They recently did a Megathron smartbomb ambush on a guy with two dozen Procurers, I can imagine that is a feat worth repeating if it's possible. Wait a second...they pipe bombed...a Procurer fleet? Oh good lord, this I must find on the killboards.... EDIT: Here it is. Well played CODE., well played indeed.... Oh my god that is beautiful Does anyone have a video? #USA #PODSQUAD #Waitthisisn'ttwitterthenewlookconfusedme
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10158	Posted - 2014.10.21 14:44:23 - [12] - Quote Christopher Mabata wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: They recently did a Megathron smartbomb ambush on a guy with two dozen Procurers, I can imagine that is a feat worth repeating if it's possible. Wait a second...they pipe bombed...a Procurer fleet? Oh good lord, this I must find on the killboards.... EDIT: Here it is. Well played CODE., well played indeed.... Oh my god that is beautiful Does anyone have a video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__b8fCbviVU&feature=youtu.be [edit: Yes, they had to make two runs, but the horrifying part is that the guy did not move for 45 minutes while they reshipped. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 585	Posted - 2014.10.21 14:55:10 - [13] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__b8fCbviVU&feature=youtu.be [edit: Yes, they had to make two runs, but the horrifying part is that the guy did not move for 45 minutes while they reshipped. That was a thing of beauty. CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content.
Really Hot Guy State War Academy Caldari State 35	Posted - 2014.10.21 15:12:52 - [14] - Quote Ria Nieyli wrote: Formerly Known As AC wrote: Wouldn't it be cheaper just to get a permit? Can you read? It's an automated response generated by the detection of keywords.
Gaan Cathal Angry Mustellid The Periphery 6	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:07:18 - [15] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Yes, they had to make two runs, but the horrifying part is that the guy did not move for 45 minutes while they reshipped. Botting software not programmed to deal with pipebombs you say?
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1727	Posted - 2014.10.21 19:58:39 - [16] - Quote Smart bombing miners is not in any way a pipebomb. It's called a disco.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10158	Posted - 2014.10.21 20:15:47 - [17] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Smart bombing miners is not in any way a pipebomb. It's called a disco. "Burn, baby burn!" "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 585	Posted - 2014.10.21 20:33:40 - [18] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Smart bombing miners is not in any way a pipebomb. It's called a disco. A beautiful display of savagery by any name is as glorious. CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content.
Clara Pond Never Not Snazzy 105	Posted - 2014.10.22 05:51:17 - [19] - Quote Bounties are not really an effective way to incentivise a gank due to the way bounties work as a percentage of the target ship's value. As has been said above, there may be people in minerbumping willing to help on a fee for service basis. I would structure it as a business deal though with ships and bonuses provided; the New Order is nobody's private army. Apart from James 315 obviously. That said, no bounty is too small to discourage us from enforcing The Code, and none so large as to distract us from our mission.
Fret Thiesant The Imperial LansDrahd LOADED-DICE 52	Posted - 2014.10.22 11:07:16 - [20] - Quote Make an alt Join Code channels Say there's all these bot miners in X system can anyone give me a hand clearing them out. No need to pay a bounty.

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie The Conference Elite CODE. 1088	Posted - 2014.10.22 12:24:46 - [21] - Quote Herateis wrote: Same as topic. I want to clear out some people using alt miners for principled reasons. What bounty is good enough to compensate you for your time? I'm not expecting directed attacks, just want to give incentives for people you might run across in 0.7-0.5 sec. Honestly, we hit our capacity in random attacks, and the in game bounty system is worthless. At minimum for directed attacks I would put kill mail loss as payout, or 100m per pilot per kill. Another option might be paying 500m or so for a group of gankers to move to a specific area for a week, and set blue standings with your guys. This has to pay more as the logistics for it are much higher than for one or two targeted ganks. I think the above options are fairly reasonable. Contact me in game if you're interested, and I'll discuss it with our alliance. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á
Nerath Naaris Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy 896	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:20:34 - [22] - Quote If they own a Permit and are CODE-compliant, OP is out of luck of course; such is the law of high-sec..... Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy 649	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:42:09 - [23] - Quote Clara Pond wrote: That said, no bounty is too small to discourage us from enforcing The Code, and none so large as to distract us from our mission. the code = organized crime like protection racketeering. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á- [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1728	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:54:08 - [24] - Quote Barbara Nichole wrote: the code = socially responsible protection racketeering. Fixed for you.
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 145	Posted - 2014.10.22 16:06:21 - [25] - Quote Really Hot Guy wrote: Ria Nieyli wrote: Formerly Known As AC wrote: Wouldn't it be cheaper just to get a permit? Can you read? It's an automated response generated by the detection of keywords. They dont read, the diarrhea just spews from their mouth and dont even know what they are doing doing other them making ships explode "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Klara Hopski Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.10.22 19:20:15 - [26] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Christopher Mabata wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: They recently did a Megathron smartbomb ambush on a guy with two dozen Procurers, I can imagine that is a feat worth repeating if it's possible. Wait a second...they pipe bombed...a Procurer fleet? Oh good lord, this I must find on the killboards.... EDIT: Here it is. Well played CODE., well played indeed.... Oh my god that is beautiful Does anyone have a video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__b8fCbviVU&feature=youtu.be [edit: Yes, they had to make two runs, but the horrifying part is that the guy did not move for 45 minutes while they reshipped. Amazing. And people say that guy isn't botting. BS, his script is just undetectable I'd guess. Watching loyalanon communicate in local was hard to look at though. I think my 10 year old nephew speaks with more maturity. CODE shooting themsleves in the leg having that guy as their militant leader
Aria Stane Tolerancia Nihilum CODE. 6	Posted - 2014.10.22 21:16:47 - [27] - Quote Heratais, Although it is the official policy of CODE. to not function as a mercenary organization at the alliance level, there's nothing that prevents individuals such as yourself from making arrangements with individual CODE./New Order pilots or groups thereof. As mentioned in a previous post, the bounty system probably isn't the best way to incentivize ganking operations against specific targets. Your best bet is to, as also mentioned previously, join the minerbumping channel (password isn't hard to guess or find) and speak with some New Order Knights and make arrangements directly with them. Of course, if a target has a valid New Order issued permit, they won't be targeted unless they're in violation of the New Halaima Code of Conduct, so your mileage may vary depending on whether those you want ganked are good little miners or bad little miners. I know in the past we've had third parties make these kinds of arrangements with our Knights with good results.
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 147	Posted - 2014.10.23 19:52:22 - [28] - Quote Herateis wrote: Same as topic. I want to clear out some people using alt miners for principled reasons. What bounty is good enough to compensate you for your time? I'm not expecting directed attacks, just want to give incentives for people you might run across in 0.7-0.5 sec. Any bounty over a few million is a nice incentive. Miner ganking becomes very profitable when I get a cool 2 million for a retriever or an extra 10m for a mackinaw gank.
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 147	Posted - 2014.10.23 19:53:49 - [29] - Quote Clara Pond wrote: Bounties are not really an effective way to incentivise a gank due to the way bounties work as a percentage of the target ship's value. As has been said above, there may be people in minerbumping willing to help on a fee for service basis. I would structure it as a business deal though with ships and bonuses provided; the New Order is nobody's private army. Apart from James 315 obviously. That said, no bounty is too small to discourage us from enforcing The Code, and none so large as to distract us from our mission. I think of them as a nice reward. Keep in mind my catalyst is much cheaper than the enemies exhumer or retriever, so the bounty increases my profit margins considerably.
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 147	Posted - 2014.10.23 19:56:25 - [30] - Quote Klara Hopski wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Christopher Mabata wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: They recently did a Megathron smartbomb ambush on a guy with two dozen Procurers, I can imagine that is a feat worth repeating if it's possible. Wait a second...they pipe bombed...a Procurer fleet? Oh good lord, this I must find on the killboards.... EDIT: Here it is. Well played CODE., well played indeed.... Oh my god that is beautiful Does anyone have a video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__b8fCbviVU&feature=youtu.be [edit: Yes, they had to make two runs, but the horrifying part is that the guy did not move for 45 minutes while they reshipped. Amazing. And people say that guy isn't botting. BS, his script is just undetectable I'd guess. Watching loyalanon communicate in local was hard to look at though. I think my 10 year old nephew speaks with more maturity. CODE shooting themsleves in the leg having that guy as their militant leader I am guessing you don't do much large group PvP. The main requirement is that you are online constantly and willing to FC. There aren't a lot of players who will do that.



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