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SonOTassadar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.18 18:29:00 -
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As we've all seen on the news posted as you enter the game, or if you never notice it, Microsoft and CCP are no longer supporting Windows 98, 98SE, and ME. I was wondering if there was anyone here who is still running one of those operating systems.
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St Dragon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.18 18:35:00 -
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Well im not affected but if you are here is a exelent solution.
Windows OS
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Tonkin
Singularity.
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Posted - 2006.08.18 18:37:00 -
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get rid of all the crap code, lol peeps have had nearly 7 years to update there machiens.
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SonOTassadar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.18 18:44:00 -
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 Originally by: St Dragon
Well im not affected but if you are here is a exelent solution.
Windows OS
Got a 404 on that link.
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Liegus
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:03:00 -
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If any poor muddled souls out there are still using win95/98/ME, they will weep for joy when they see the stability difference when they are finally forced to upgrade to 2000/XP anyway :P
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Dummy Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:06:00 -
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U must really be into sadomasochism if ur still running a pre XP OS.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: St Dragon
Well im not affected but if you are here is a exelent solution.
Windows OS
Better buy that OEM fast, MS takes away the authorized license to sell OEM, for the type of misuse of the OEM-bundle that site is offering. The OEM is intended for a PC, not a part of a PC like a mouse or other periphial.
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
U must really be into sadomasochism if ur still running a pre XP OS.
Actually I prefer Win2000, but Cleartype is something I can't live without 
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Auren Mars
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:39:00 -
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my friends brother upgraded his pc to Windows ME because he doesnt like XP, i mean come on - you upgraded to ME! the horror!
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Damfoose
FISKL GUARDS
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:47:00 -
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my friends brother upgraded his pc to Windows ME because he doesnt like XP, i mean come on - you upgraded to ME! the horror!
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Thats not an upgrade thats a down grade seeing as it went win 98 , win2000 , ME , then XP ...............................
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:54:00 -
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It's not always chronological, try the rolling train wreck that is Vista...anyway...
Yes, it'll stop my changing skill from my 'NIX laptop for a bit.
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Sir Juri
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
It's not always chronological, try the rolling train wreck that is Vista...anyway...
Yes, it'll stop my changing skill from my 'NIX laptop for a bit.
Well see if its a train wreck or not, but my bet is you hope it is but it wont be one.
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.18 20:01:00 -
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Well no, I'm making sure versions of everythig I use will keep 2k/XP support, and transitioning away from programs which will not, actually. In at least one case, directly introducing someone to an OpenGL coder...
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.08.18 20:44:00 -
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Sure, there are going to be players affected by the lack of future support, but we are talking about a comparatively small number of users compared to the EVE community as a whole. 0.7% of the EVE community works out to be less than 980 users affected.
(For those doing the math at home, we are just under 140,000 active subscriptions.)
It is always a rough decision to drop members of the community, but we don't have much of a choice otherwise.
kieron
Community Manager,
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Kitchi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.18 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kitchi on 18/08/2006 20:45:58
Originally by: Maya Rkell
... the rolling train wreck that is Vista...
Amen, sister!
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Idaeus
Gallente
Crimson Wings Squadron
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Posted - 2006.08.18 20:51:00 -
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I have a tweaked version of 98se on one of my systems (Tweaked with 98lite, Unoffical Service Pack 2 and 982ME among other things).
It's not my main box so I'm not really affected, but there have been times I've used that system to play EVE. So it'll be a minor annoyance, that's all.
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.08.18 20:53:00 -
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I've been running the latest x64 vista beta on my machine a while now, runs smooth as, but I always upgrade my comp. Most games so far actually run better under Vista than on XP. Of course when Vista comes out I think it will be in a messy state... IE Windows 98, the first edition anyone? (if you remember what horror that was).
Anyway, if your running 98 it's really your own problem, you've had years to upgrade.
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Andicuri Vas
Gallente
Celtic Anarchy
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.18 21:26:00 -
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Man, this is bu**sh*t!
What next? I'll have to upgrade my Voodoo 2?
Bah.
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Dollar Menu
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Posted - 2006.08.18 21:46:00 -
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I for one am happy to see this change. Far too many games support OSs and hardware that should no longer be in existance.
That kind of crap is what makes the code so fat and bloated and hurts gameplay for the rest of us.
People have had like 6 years or more to upgrade, time to move on.
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.18 21:50:00 -
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I understand that people use linux.. but win98/SE has been out like.. 10 years now? Its bloody time to upgrade if youre still running it.
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Frezik
Celtic Anarchy
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.18 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Juri
Originally by: Maya Rkell
It's not always chronological, try the rolling train wreck that is Vista...anyway...
Yes, it'll stop my changing skill from my 'NIX laptop for a bit.
Well see if its a train wreck or not, but my bet is you hope it is but it wont be one.
It's already a train wreck. Constant delays and promised features that were later cut makes it the epitome of every Microsoft OS since DOS 1.0.
Let's see:
1990 -- Windows 3.0
1992 (+2 years) -- Windows 3.1
1995 (+3 years) -- Windows 95
1998 (+3 years) -- Windows 98
2000 (+2 years) -- Windows ME
2001 (+1 year) -- Windows XP
20?? (+5 years, at least) -- Windows Vista
Even if we pretend ME never happened (a perfectly resonable thing to pretend), that's still only 3 years between 98 and XP. We're now going on 6 years with no major new release. What the frack are they doing over there?
This doesn't mean it will suck when it's released, but I think it's fair to call it a train wreck already.
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Tanaka Atsuko
Gallente
Demonic Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.18 22:10:00 -
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if you havent used vista yet i highly suggest you upgrade to it just because 98 and XP had problems vista is a completely new OS that been in the works for a while its alot more secure and ide say its beter than a mac OS lot of nice featuresand other things along with direct X 10 its going to have some pretty awsome capablities
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Viktor Beck
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Posted - 2006.08.18 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tanaka Atsuko
if you havent used vista yet i highly suggest you upgrade to it just because 98 and XP had problems vista is a completely new OS that been in the works for a while its alot more secure and ide say its beter than a mac OS lot of nice featuresand other things along with direct X 10 its going to have some pretty awsome capablities
Replace 'Vista' with 'XP' and 'XP' with '98' and you have the situation with XP.
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Valator Uel
Caldari
Pax Minor Asylum
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.18 22:19:00 -
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Simple solution: Create an EVE OS
You can do it!
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Benco97
Gallente
On Ravens Wings
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Posted - 2006.08.18 22:23:00 -
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I've used the latest Vista beta release (2.2? i'm not at the computer right now) and I can say it's looking good so far, a little nannying perhaps but that can be controlled.
One question, I SERIOSULY don't get what everyone thinks was wrong with ME, i'm not being silly or anything I really mean it.. I feel left out. Please fill me in.
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Ryushe
JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.18 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tanaka Atsuko
if you havent used vista yet i highly suggest you upgrade to it just because 98 and XP had problems vista is a completely new OS that been in the works for a while its alot more secure and ide say its beter than a mac OS lot of nice featuresand other things along with direct X 10 its going to have some pretty awsome capablities
<OSX fan mode>Sorry, I couldn't resist: Please click this link. It's a video on Google Video. Basically, as the video description mentions: "Microsoft Vista feature presentation with the video replaced by a OSX desktop."
Everything the guy mentions about what's so great about Vista, the guy who made the video does the same in the CURRENT version of OSX. In other words, we've had some of these nice features for some time now :)</OSX fan mode>
In all seriousness tho, I hope it's better than XP, I really do, but I'll wait and see when they actually decide to release it.
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Frezik
Celtic Anarchy
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.18 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97
I've used the latest Vista beta release (2.2? i'm not at the computer right now) and I can say it's looking good so far, a little nannying perhaps but that can be controlled.
One question, I SERIOSULY don't get what everyone thinks was wrong with ME, i'm not being silly or anything I really mean it.. I feel left out. Please fill me in.
When Microsoft realized that they (yet again) weren't going to get the NT kernel into a home-based OS, they slapped ME together by graphing some of the features of NT over Win98. The result created a worst-of-both-worlds situation. They still had the same stability problems that plagued all DOS-based Windows OSen, but also had the driver and application support of NT (which was limited at the time). Plus many of the features that were seen in NT or later in XP (like system rollback) didn't work.
Thus, most people either went to Win2k, or stayed with Win98 SE2. At the very least, ME didn't give you anything over Win98, and was often detrimental.
If you didn't personally run into it's problems, then I'd have to say that you were at the far end of the bell curve.
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Benco97
Gallente
On Ravens Wings
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Posted - 2006.08.18 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Frezik
When Microsoft realized that they (yet again) weren't going to get the NT kernel into a home-based OS, they slapped ME together by graphing some of the features of NT over Win98. The result created a worst-of-both-worlds situation. They still had the same stability problems that plagued all DOS-based Windows OSen, but also had the driver and application support of NT (which was limited at the time). Plus many of the features that were seen in NT or later in XP (like system rollback) didn't work.
Thus, most people either went to Win2k, or stayed with Win98 SE2. At the very least, ME didn't give you anything over Win98, and was often detrimental.
If you didn't personally run into it's problems, then I'd have to say that you were at the far end of the bell curve.
Thank you! That was a great reply to my question and you've enlightened me now, I consider myself lucky that i've not had any problems yet then, again, Thank you for a very concise answer.
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.18 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tanaka Atsuko
if you havent used vista yet i highly suggest you upgrade to it just because 98 and XP had problems vista is a completely new OS that been in the works for a while its alot more secure and ide say its beter than a mac OS lot of nice featuresand other things along with direct X 10 its going to have some pretty awsome capablities
Capacity that with OpenGL 2 you can have on virtually ANY platform you care to name, including (OpenGL ES) the PS3. Your point?
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Xelios
Minmatar
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.08.18 23:20:00 -
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Vista is going to be the worst piece of meecrab ever created. Even IF they manage to release a somewhat stable build there's no way I'm putting up with all that built in DRM until I absolutely have to. I'd sooner switch to Linux and stick to older games tbh.
The new BFG.
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