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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2003.10.12 05:13:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 12/10/2003 05:26:09 "And just to be clear, I'm the best negotiator, ever"
Just trying to get a laugh out of the guy. And on a positive note, everything's being sorted out
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.10.12 05:13:00 -
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Beat the Curse Cowards? NEVER!!!
Seriously, I dont see how CFS can claim HED-GP. In a perfect world, it would be a neutral zone for Curse and Stain and whomever. Hopefully this matter will still be resolved. I am sure that we will come to an agreement to advert this situation. I for one do not have an unlimited gameplay time and I prefer to keep it spent going after ppl that deserve it, namely CC.
Scragg, you are not invited into this discussion. You offer neither valuable input or even a witty line. Just fluff and hot air. BOP, you guys are closer to chickens and turkeys. So, take your turkeys and go back to licking bio's boots.
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Xeris
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Posted - 2003.10.12 05:14:00 -
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Quote:
IĘd be lying if I said I would not like to see CFS at war with the Curse Alliance of Pirates, they need to be destroyed and the pirates sent packing.
Because clearly, you can't do it yourselves. ::cough::Biomass::cough::cough::
Honostly, I think the CFS should step back for a minuite and take a deep breath before they rashly jump to conclusions.
As a side note, I think its ludicrous for CFS to "claim" HED-GP. HED is in Catch, which should remain neutral as long as both SA and CA are standing. If you insist on patroling HED, remember that not only CA members are tresspassing, but SA members as well.
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Scragg
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Posted - 2003.10.12 05:26:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Stained on 12/10/2003 05:12:38 Don't forget FA and CoC there Scragg.......
Well honestly I'm not even sure who the CoC are and FA are just here to kill Sinister and anyone dumb enough to ally with them. I been bussy hunting down and destroying Curse Alliance of Pirates industrial ships and miners and have not kept up much with politics.
It's OK dudes I understand the Curse Alliance of Pirates high level of anxiety. I'd be a little hostile, defensive, and angery if my plans to take over the region fell though and I was surronded by low life scum too. But hey look on the bright side. You can always go back to gate and jump in point camping back in the Syndicate with your pirate buddies there.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |

Bach
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Posted - 2003.10.12 05:41:00 -
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Now I am intrigued. 
Having listened to Wolverina and the original pitch I had actually been leaning to the side that SIN really wanted to go legit. Talking to a Vandelay player tonight almost convinced me they were serious about it.
Now the RC and shinra gig is old hat and those of us that have already been through this drill know whats up with them. I can see Reclaimer and Sarkos piping in with the party line. But Lalante? Certainly SIN realizes to gain the trust of neighbors after their recorded past they can ill afford to be associated with such things and if so must be super critical and tough minded about investigations into such events.
I would like to know who in authority in the CA and SIN is investigating this matter? I ask because I have had my own experieces with these parties and know better than to think they do anything by accident.
I'll tell you this, I joined the CA of my own free will but when I caught Dirus (Shinra) red handed pirating in HED I contacted my CA chain of command. I contacted Xirtamvotf with my finding and was essentially told to look the other way and that I should have been helping Dirus protect Curse. Well I spent a day and half tracking her movements and I know what I saw and what I found. I didn't missunderstand anything. The CA upper command just didn't want to hear about it. If you ever wondered why I went to the CC. That event was pretty much it. I am just not into looking the other way. Who are pirates? I can tell you elements of Shinra/RC/VOTF and there for by proxy the CA are still envolved in piratical activities. I haven't witnessed an actual clear cut SIN pirating since Oct. 1st but I am watching closely to see what the CA and SIN does with this event to determine how much I am willing to believe a new leaf has been turned.
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Bach
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Posted - 2003.10.12 05:58:00 -
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HED has been considered CFS space for some time now. This was pretty clear to the natives of the area but there is alot of new guys in the CA these days.
The soveriegn space in no way needs to be determined by the region lines and for the CFS I do not believe they ever did. For the CA to declare it defacto neutral due to a recent war of their own has no merit. As long as piracy continues in their home space the CFS have every right to protect it as they see fit. 
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Xeris
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Posted - 2003.10.12 06:03:00 -
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So where is the CFS when Stain is camping HED?
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.10.12 06:04:00 -
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Teister,
This situation that the CFS has been put in to is unfortunate, however I believe what has happend was simply the Curse Alliance trying to bear their teeth at you and have you stand down. I see this as a prime example of how the Curse Alliance cannot be trusted; they are still pirates at heart.
If this situation continues to go down hill, please contact me as soon as you make your formal war declaration on the Curse Alliance. I understand that the CFS may need help, and considering the CFS's track record, it shouldnt be a problem for the SA to work hand in hand with the CFS.
Contact me via eve-mail and I will get talks underway so we can set up calculated strikes, and defensive patrols.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |

Leyla
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Posted - 2003.10.12 06:25:00 -
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Attention all CA members, Please stop posting on this thread concerning this matter. A new post will clarify on matters that have happened in the past hour.
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pooti
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Posted - 2003.10.12 06:42:00 -
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Edited by: pooti on 12/10/2003 06:43:28 oh man i had this huge post
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Teister
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Posted - 2003.10.12 07:09:00 -
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Quote: HED has been considered CFS space for some time now. This was pretty clear to the natives of the area but there is alot of new guys in the CA these days.
The soveriegn space in no way needs to be determined by the region lines and for the CFS I do not believe they ever did. For the CA to declare it defacto neutral due to a recent war of their own has no merit. As long as piracy continues in their home space the CFS have every right to protect it as they see fit. 
Let me clear this up. We do NOT claim HED-GP. However, it is a choke point entering our region, and is often camped by pirates. Therefore, we have, as stated, an interest in that system, and the other nearby sytems which are also sometime camped. We patrol them to keep it pirate free. We have done so in the past, are doing so now, and will continue to do so. The wars of course, have hindered our efforts there.
In reguards to the Catch in general, CFS would like that region to remain unclaimed by any alliance. However, alliances which must transit the region have a right to keep it pirate free, as we do.
Teister CEO Independent Miners Guild President, CFS Alliance www.cfs-eve.org
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2003.10.12 07:14:00 -
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Quote: I'll tell you this, I joined the CA of my own free will but when I caught Dirus (Shinra) red handed pirating in HED I contacted my CA chain of command. I contacted Xirtamvotf
Bach thats funny, Ive never talked to you ever let alone that***** and bull story.
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.10.12 08:31:00 -
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mmm CFS SA FA vs CA. lol
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LtCol RTButts
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Posted - 2003.10.12 10:51:00 -
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and CA showed again their true face
Sinister RUS Red Corsairs The Orion Syndicate
wow, nice membercorps in the CA which they want to sell as friendly breakfast club.
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LtCol RTButts
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Posted - 2003.10.12 10:54:00 -
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there is now
CC, FA, SA, CFS against CA
welcome CFS on our side :-)
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semp
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:19:00 -
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More friends for CA to worry about.....shame :)
Semp CEO Tyrell Corp
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Merjan
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:35:00 -
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[ 2003.10.11 01:41:10 ] BobGhengisKhan > We are not a pirate corp right now
This was priceless.
Just what did he meant with "right now"?
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Geralt Rivia
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:39:00 -
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Only wondering, CA has war with FA and Stain, now they look for another opponent to join in? Seems CA cannot controle their pirate corps.
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Miru
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Posted - 2003.10.12 11:43:00 -
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CA time to check the crystal ball the Oracle corp might have. The best guess for the future readings is that somehow you wll start a war with NVA, and also in a great move to regain public support TTI will jump in against you, maybe the RUS will come to the conclusion they are not pirates. Maybe you might even find a way to attack Polaris, heck you might even find a way to upset the Jovians. Only guesses as to the future, but daily yours gets bleaker. Hint to those "" non pirate members "" of CA, the people in the game are taking up arms against them. You have the choise, use it wisely.
Miru just a poor miner about to be flamed by those that are losing it.
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:03:00 -
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Its quite clear actually...
The CA "pirate" corps are no longer "pirates" so to give them an ample amount of targets, and action they simple declare war on every single corp in the universe, except for the ones they need as flak.
All the time they whine about being called pirates, and try to lull the gullible into beliving them.
And then Sarkos posts a bunch of bs, and everynbody laughs  __________________________________________
Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |

NGRU Rix
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Posted - 2003.10.12 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: NGRU Rix on 13/10/2003 02:47:39 nm
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Scragg
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Posted - 2003.10.12 14:08:00 -
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Quote: So where is the CFS when Stain is camping HED?
The last time I saw Stain Camping HED they where at the SV gate. They had a messgae for everyone entering the system. They said the SV gate was open to all except VA memebers and no one would be fired at but CA.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |

Scragg
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Posted - 2003.10.12 14:12:00 -
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Quote: [ 2003.10.11 01:41:10 ] BobGhengisKhan > We are not a pirate corp right now
This was priceless.
Just what did he meant with "right now"?
Means at that exact moment they where not engaged in piracy and the statement is subject to change at any moment.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |

Majin Buu
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Posted - 2003.10.12 14:22:00 -
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HED-GP is neutral grounds for SA. As many people know it is the only way to get into Stain, therefore its in our best interests to keep it pirate free, which we do. when we are operating in that system the only enemies we have are curse alliance members. All other pilots are considered friendly or neutral. If CFS forces are in HED-GP at the same time as ours then they will be treated as allies because they are after all there for exactly the same reason we are 
BoB KillBoard |

Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.10.12 17:12:00 -
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Quote: CA time to check the crystal ball the Oracle corp might have. The best guess for the future readings is that somehow you wll start a war with NVA, and also in a great move to regain public support TTI will jump in against you, maybe the RUS will come to the conclusion they are not pirates. Maybe you might even find a way to attack Polaris, heck you might even find a way to upset the Jovians. Only guesses as to the future, but daily yours gets bleaker. Hint to those "" non pirate members "" of CA, the people in the game are taking up arms against them. You have the choise, use it wisely.
Miru just a poor miner about to be flamed by those that are losing it.
Let me say that the CA and the CFS are not at war. Unlike many of our enemies, we prefer a non-violent approach to matters when possible. We have posted a constitution and make every effort possible to follow it, including the ejection of members that break it. In other word, we take responsibility for any of our members that break the written constitution. We wrote it, and we stick by it, using negotiations to bring problems to a satisfactory ending, at least when we can deal with reasonable and responsible people.
As to the Jove, well Oracle is the corporation that banded together and sacrificed itself to aid Ouria, the Jove general, oops, against Stain. I believe that qualifies us as closer to being friends than enemies. :)
Rather than talk, you the warmongers of the universe, and I mean the SA and FA, concluded we were weak and so engaged on a crusade of violent combat and destruction, attacking us in our home. All you have done could have been avoided by reasonable negotiations by responsible people, and I do believe that the people of the universe not fighting us can and do see that.
Now, prepare to reap what you sow. Prepare for a harvest of destruction nurtured by you will and actions, by your pig headed stubborness and refusal to listen to reason.
But hey, we could'nt possibly do something like this, right. We are after all weak and easy pickings for the mighty and ego inflated warriors of Stain and Fountain. :)
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.10.12 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Sarkos on 12/10/2003 17:22:21
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Quote: [ 2003.10.11 01:41:10 ] BobGhengisKhan > We are not a pirate corp right now
This was priceless.
Just what did he meant with "right now"?
Means at that exact moment they where not engaged in piracy and the statement is subject to change at any moment.
Well Scragg, the Red Corsairs gave up piracy a while ago. As stated many times on these boards I personnaly moderated the mettings where RC gave up the mantle of piracy. The more violent people left them, check their current number now vs the 38 they used to be. They gave me the most precious thing at that time. Their word, and any that have ever had dealings with the RC knows they have never broken their word. Then again as a member of the CC, the concept of honor might be above you, as all I have seen is lies and betrayal.
PS: 'right now' means that yes, they USED to be pirates. That's your clue for today.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.10.12 17:26:00 -
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Quote: Its quite clear actually...
The CA "pirate" corps are no longer "pirates" so to give them an ample amount of targets, and action they simple declare war on every single corp in the universe, except for the ones they need as flak.
All the time they whine about being called pirates, and try to lull the gullible into beliving them.
And then Sarkos posts a bunch of bs, and everynbody laughs 
Mr Blonde,
The only being laughed at is you, an obvious alt posting on the boards in an effort to cause additional disruption. If you do have something of value to say, may I suggest you do so as your main and at least show courage to let your name be shown. Otherwise, no one really cares.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2003.10.12 17:58:00 -
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In response to the statement that Red Corsairs are not pirates :-
A few days ago, Bobghengiskhan (Or however its spelt) attacked a British Space Corporation Member in the JK-FIX Region.
The BSC Member was in a Bestower; Bobghengiskhan was in an Apocalypse. Are you honestly claiming that a bestower would attack an Apocalypse? Claim to no longer be pirates all you wish; but we all sure as hell know how honest that claim is. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Uzael
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Posted - 2003.10.12 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Uzael on 12/10/2003 18:23:39 Let me jump in here real quick and point out something that was missed. Xirtams "Log" is not properly formated as it would be if he had acctually copied it from a captured log. It also lacks the headers placed on a captured chat log that proves where it came from and what time it was copied. Lets be honest here Xitam and Bob NEVER approach anyone in that manner and that log is a fake. So Xir, try again and dont come back here and add a header now because I wont buy it. This is just more VTOF lying and misconduct, Sarkos if you dont want war its time to take care of VTOF, and RC. Give them up to us and prehaps peace talks can begin.
OOOPPPSSSS I didnt see the part where CFS posted the REAL logs... HAHAHAHAHHA VTOF and RC you guys dont need me to look like liars and cheats, your doing fine by yourselves!!!! -------------- UZAEL
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2003.10.12 18:24:00 -
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Xirtam didn't have a log because he wasn't in the conversation. I didn't save a log, either, but just had a few parts left that I pasted in my corp chat. Xirt wanted something posted, so I gave whetever I had to him.
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