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Bastion Arzi
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:26:14 -
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shortly after i first started this game i lost a cruiser to a low sec gate camp. An soe high sec mission took me to low sec. and i had assurances from people in eve uni channel that i would probably be ok.
got annihalted at the gate. didnt shoot my pod idk why
anyway I was lucky some random in help channel decided to give me 40 mill isk. so the loss was not that bad.
i guess this reinforces the rule dont fly what u cant afford to lose.
cos man if i had just lost a cruiser and did not have any isk left over - faced with grinding level 1's in a dessie to get enough isk back to buy a cruiser again - i probably would not have bothered and instead ended my eve career.
that would have been a great shame as well because i had not yet had a chance to experience decent fleets and well grounded corps and awesome pvp.
yep such an event would have been game breaking for me.
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Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 12:03:14 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:There is no way to "protect" against a guy in a thrasher undocking every 15 minutes to shoot autopiloting shuttles and pods. There is no way to "protect" against 40 man gank fleets in Uedama. There is no way to arrest people, put them on trial, and sentence them to 15 years in jail. The maximum punishment you can administer is destruction of ship and pod, which for gankers is laughably cheap.
dont autopilot
warp to a 0km undock spot and then dock immediatley.
avoid uedama if u know there is a 40 man fleet of gankers who will give 0 fucks about losing thier ship to get urs
put people in jail? we are playing a game arent we?
if i saw that guy undock every 15 mins to snipe a pod of a shuttle i would wait till he goes criminal and get in on the km....
honestly i believe the players can police the systems. locate your gankers, griefers, miscreants and kill them. if they have friends then bring friends. |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 14:42:33 -
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are there many? players who gank all day everyday?
in my ~3 years of eve i have been suicide ganked once. and i was in an empty bestower.
that player i cant remember the name now pissed me off so much because i wasnt even a profitable target.
That same player was hanging around osmon just blapping people as they came out of soe station.
me and another likeminded player decided to make life diificult for them by killing them before concord got the chanec when they went criminal.
and also attempting to kill his bustard friend when he went suspect for grabbing the loot.
killed them 3 times or so and guess what? they left osmon alone.
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Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 14:52:00 -
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why dont people band together? wait till they go criminal and then kill them. steal their loot for urself and dock up. |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:05:35 -
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no u cant really stop them i suppose. but you can steal thier ill gotten gains. by killing whatever hauler picks up loot for them. he will go suspect when he picks up the loot so just bring a few nados and hes dead. if that fails just align blow up the wreck they want to loot and warp...
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Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:07:15 -
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see. seems like the carebears give up when the going gets tough.... |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:16:42 -
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how hard is it to get on comms?
u dont even need ts eve has in game voice ffs.
carebear: please sir stop hitting me in the face
gankers: SPARTAAAAAAAA!!!!!! |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:21:06 -
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ok my bad. use a cheap ship to shoot the wreck.
u will lose ur ship but ur still wining. think off it as cutting off the enemies supply lines...
edit: i thought u would only get suspect timer. might be rong. jonah knows more about these things than i do anyway |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:27:42 -
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this gives me an idea.
why not make it so that containers that were produced as a result of illegal destrcution of another ship should be free for all?
allowing anyone to grab/destroy the loot?
this might deter gankers, but honsetly i think people should defend themselves for chrissakes
edit - oh nevemrind this wqould prolly make ganking even easier i guess...
second edit - you can shoot the wreck if your in fleet according to the wiki entry
"When taking is not stealing
If you do not own a loot or jettison container, you may still have an implicit right to take from it. However, this is only if the owner of the container:
Has given you a personal standing of 10 Is in the same player corporation as you Is in the same gang as you (and is located in the same solar system as you)." |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:44:36 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Well, I don't get targeted because I am very good at what I do. The problem is that the new/casual players do get targeted and driven out of the game.
some yes, but then in warcraft (Gasp) for example nobody stopped that level 90 character killing me in the alliance capital. didnt break the game for me i just went about my business somewhere else.
in tera the same thing seemed to happen to me wherever i went.
in clash of clans people with bigger towns than mine usually raid and steal my precious loot.
i dont see hordes of players leaving the game becuase of it. therfore i conclude that it is working as intended. |
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Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:12:56 -
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Veers is this your first/only toon?
i only ask because in my experience players who enjoy the pve are younger players.
However eventually pve becomes boring, repetitive, unchallenging and now recently not even worth it (for the loot drop nerfs ceeceepee)
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Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:18:00 -
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lock all gankers out of stations, and prohibit them from using gates they must stay in space till they are dead. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .. ... ... .. .. ... ... ... .. just kididng |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:26:51 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:such as? i spend a lot of my time in game suspect flagged so . currently the 15 minuet timer is extended if i steal anything els or if i shoot at anyone's assets in space. and fyi i get shot at by players at gates all the time if i travel with that timer (bears might be cowards but you run into all sorts at gates)
and in rens on BTT station.
was sitting there in my dual deadspace rep sacrilege suspect flagged.
when a fleet of frigs just started shooting me.
only had one point so they got away -1 poor poor fool.
what a delicious memory.
tried a similar thing in a vargur and no one touched me... |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:35:06 -
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i agree with u but this wouldnt happen if the bears had teeth. |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:43:33 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:You shouldn't need "teeth" to operate in high security space. The police force should punish with enough force to deter the conduct. This means progressively more painful punishments for repeat criminals, and especially for those whose sole in game play is to commit crimes in highsec. Players in Eve are not law enforcement, they have no power to punish beyond destroying ship and pod, and since gankers can accomplish their goals with laughably cheap versions of those, it follows that player punishments have no tangible impact.
do the police do that in real life? or do people get off scott free all the time for things like gbh and assault.
a friend of mine was attacked by another dude chocked and slammed up against a wall all in front of cctv. police didnt want to know.
If you walk around the city flashing your cash and ur expensive **** do u think that people will not target you. also dont you think they would be less likely to target you if u were also extremely muscular and known to not take bullshit from people?
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Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:53:47 -
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well life isnt cushty all over.
there are places...
on earth...
where people eat other people... |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 14:57:03 -
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lol |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:00:41 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:True, you might call them, oh...I don't know.... nullsec?
Why should highsec resemble those places? Why not have a range of police presence throughout space, and let people CHOOSE where they want to live? Kinda like now, but with much more severe consequences for committing crimes in highsec.
do u want to hold hands as well? |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:17:19 -
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be careful veers those are goons. who u know burn jita
like **** da police |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:23:51 -
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i heard pl sold a lot of thier space recently as well. i guess becuase of the changes to long distance travel a lot of big corps/alliances are re-evaluating the space they can effectively hold. |
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Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:30:34 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:which should create some nice conflicts and power changes in nullsec at last.
i certainly hope so |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:32:20 -
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in jenna's defence you go on about it like it happens to you everyday. |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:37:42 -
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friends of yours? |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:40:59 -
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i dont know man this game is in its second decade now. It hasnt had too many people leave due to suicide ganks that it cant run a pay to play model.
Other games dont make it very far at all before they go FTP.
the situation cant be as dire as your saying. |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:58:56 -
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so ur mining right.
in a fleet.
ok
and gankers drop in.
surely the miners have drones and stuff?
would it be so bad to take jamming drones as well? (i know this doesnt guarantee safety)
or if ur in a fleet could assign all drones to someone and start alphaing ships.
surely a tank procurer with sevral drones assigned to him can kill an untanked catalyst?
do the miners watch d s-scan? or are they afk?
maybe if they pvpd a bit they would know how to assign drones.
Ther is also no reason not to be on comms in eve. Its available in game free of charge.
If they are getting ganked and not enjoying and cant defend themselves i pity them. but i cannot help them, if i did they would rely on me and still not learn.
they must help themsleves |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:30:41 -
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petre if i could give another like i would. thank u for clarifying things |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:18:36 -
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people only see what they want to see |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 21:06:59 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Too many pages to back track to what this thread was about, I'm sure it was on about getting better ways to execute gankers.
Copy ralphs example
http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb/index.php/alliance_detail/643/
try something like that
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Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 22:50:41 -
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LFMAO |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 23:39:07 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Yes, the brilliant new analogy is now that mining in highsec is the same thing as walking in the middle of the street without looking.
I mean this is just crazy talk.
Mining AFK is not paying attention while doing something.
Walking into the street without looking is the same thing |
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Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 23:41:11 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Mining AFK is like sitting in the park not paying attention.
in the park there are thugs... |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 23:44:28 -
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i dont even |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 23:46:50 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Precisely, there are thugs in the park, and I still don't pay attention. The expectation is that the police handle these matters and protect the public.
ok so how much time will it take for the police to reach u if these guys try something? |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.28 23:50:16 -
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Brochan McLeod wrote:Appearantly this thread needed another 130+ pages of squabbeling fishwives... Good job folks
im just trying to teach the guy something. but he doesnt want to see it.
your right though this has gotten boring. |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.29 00:03:14 -
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hes basically saying he wants gankers removed from the game as the police would do irl to a repeat offender.
your right its just a game. he cannot seem to diffrentiate between fantasy and reality and has some trouble with metaphors... this is not intended as a personal attack but rather an observation. |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.29 00:10:25 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:I wonder what his opinion of Grand Theft Auto multiplayer is?
hahaha |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.29 01:03:52 -
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but u get the rights to kill him |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.30 09:48:56 -
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some nice ideas and good reasoning +1.
i like the one about spawning a dangerous rat every so often that miners will have to run from. this will reduce afk mining and make it a bit more dangerous. The miners would have actually pay attention as they should be doing.
I for one also support the idea of a concord response to awoxing. I should be able to trust my corpmates... |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.30 11:03:39 -
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but its only a concord response, its not a total ban on awoxing. so it is still possible however 2 ships will be lost instead of 1. |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.30 14:36:10 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Bastion Arzi wrote:but its only a concord response, its not a total ban on awoxing. so it is still possible however 2 ships will be lost instead of 1. I don't understand your point. If CCP removes awoxing, that is the legal ability to shoot corp mates in highsec, by adding a CONCORD response (although the exact change is probably still under discussion), then shooting a corp mate is exactly the same as suicide ganking. This will severely limit the types of ships that can be destroyed by an awoxer before CONCORD arrives, and makes the whole endeavour (sneaking into a corp to damage it) moot as the attacker will loose their ship exactly the same way as if they did not join the corp in the first place.
yeah i agree |
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Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.10.30 15:20:43 -
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Fabio Suave wrote:I don't like the time-based skill system. Instead I wish we all got X number of skill points, and we could drop 1-5 points into any skills we wanted.
Maybe it's an idea for EVE 2? I just hate waiting weeks or months for a skill to train. I love everything else about EVE.
No |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.11.02 00:41:24 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:YOU are what's wrong with Eve. Goodbye.
prick
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