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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.23 11:03:19 -
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im quite nice to the newbies i shoot in the face.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5996
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Posted - 2014.10.23 11:52:50 -
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Pro TIps wrote:Someone tricking you in a duel is IMO not broken. It happens, it's unfortunate, and you end up learning not to expect pre-conditions for duels to be honored. Ralph King-Griffin wrote:im quite nice to the newbies i shoot in the face. What's most wrong with the "new player experience" is that Ralph's alliance exists, along with a number of others, who wardec thousands of players and simply grief them. Most of these players are highsec alts of people who know what they are doing. Unfortunately, some are legitimate newbies who have joined a player-corp, hope to make friends and grow in the game, and are victimized by a very small group of highsec "mercenaries" who spend their days shooting people between Amarr and Jita, and visiting mission hubs to kill Drakes and Vexors. Newbies will or won't keep playing eve based largely on whether or not they make friends, and the easiest way to do that is to join a player-corp. Unfortunately, the broken wardec mechanics make it impossible to operate a corp in highsec with more than a few dozen members. Once you get to 100 or so, your corp will have wardecs constantly, your newbies will be unable to travel, and you break the highsec learning environment for them. The best thing CCP could do to improve new player retention would be to make additional, concurrent offensive wardecs cost twice as much as the first such wardec; and to index the base wardec prices to the cost of PLEX. For example, The Devil's Warrior Alliance decs Acme Mining & Missions, with their 30 members. Costs about 50M ISK/week. Then they dec 25 more similar corps, all for the same price. What should happen is, the second target corp costs them 100M ISK/week, third one 200M, fourth one 400M, and so on. It will no longer be practical to keep a significant fraction of the players in the game under a wardec so they can shoot fish off stargates in Niarja. If the above change were implemented, Devil's Warrior could still dec people and find targets; but they would actually have to find targets. As in, leave Niarja and look for them; because they won't afford to dec thousands of players anymore. There are additional things badly broken about highsec wardecs, but this one is what hurts newbies and new player retention.
actually i spend a lot of time and isk on newbies i have shot, so does Feyd.
if you cant deal with or operate under war dec (which should be an excellent opportunity to teach newbies about war mechanics and ambush avoidance ) then why the hell are you taking newbies in.
if you cant defend them , or enable them how to do so then how are they better off in your corp than in an npc one?
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.23 13:39:18 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:What wrong with this game is you can't patch stupid.
try antimatter
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.23 14:05:28 -
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Brochan McLeod wrote:
Its called 'benefit of the doubt' by the way.
actually its called naive or gullible
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.23 14:09:02 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:That's... simplest terms?
Bottom line is Eve is a niche sandbox and this is one of the reasons. Freedom to play in the sand your way means there will inevitably be those who enjoy stomping all over the nice sandcastles of others.
indeed
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6003
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Posted - 2014.10.23 14:41:09 -
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Brochan McLeod wrote:
In your (sad?) world it probably does.
why ? did i miss a memo about strangers on the internet at some point ?
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6005
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Posted - 2014.10.23 15:08:57 -
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Brochan McLeod wrote:
chances are that if you behave like an oaf ingame ( and even defend it)... you are an oaf IRL... and i DONT mean the PvP mechanics.
^^
difficulty disassociating real world emotional value responses from digital actions.
you realise this attitude is why we glory in carebear tears without feeling bad right.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6014
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Posted - 2014.10.23 17:20:46 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:Anslo wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote:Aye,
I work a ten hour job. =S Sucks trying to find time to play at points.
Lack of sleep+EVEGroggily trying to work surrounded by hormonal teenages
Or Sleep+ kinda Groggily trying to work surrounded by hormonal teenages. I work 8-9 hour days in pharma bruh, and I'm a CEO. Sup? Come at me. COME @ ME MAn, Ill rec you like I did you mum last nite. ZZZzzzZ1v1 brah, COD4 M16 only. ZZZzzzZZZz
**** ye both,
i have twins.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6016
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Posted - 2014.10.23 17:40:11 -
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Max Deveron wrote:a good post
this is why you need to shoot the newbies in the face first , then show them the ways
that initial explosion goes a long way in weeding out those worth your time.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6017
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Posted - 2014.10.23 17:55:16 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Max Deveron wrote:a good post this is why you need to shoot the newbies in the face first , then show them the ways that initial explosion goes a long way in weeding out those worth your time. Because nothing says welcome to Eve like having your ship blow up and going straight into bankruptcy. CCP should probably just abolish rookie systems and make CONCORD not respond to aggression against players under a month old. That would definitely bolster the NPE *eyeroll*.
well if you act like an entitled bellend then yeah, that's all you get.
its something of a litmus test,
display a rational, adjusted attitude = get advice , links to helpful resources, isk to soften the blow(actually profit if cool about it)
sperg threats insults and accusations of a malformed psyche = get slagged mercilessly
sperg threats insults and accusations of a malformed psyche on the forums = get publicly humiliated and possibly wardeced
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6025
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Posted - 2014.10.23 18:46:42 -
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Brochan McLeod wrote:
If they advertise you should jump in the river after every game session you do that too?
If i play checkers with my wife and i knock her teeth out everytime i get a bit overenthousiastic ... that would drastically shorten my marriage.
And i have a great marriage!
What in the name of hell does this have to do with what Jen or anyone else in the thread has said.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6025
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Posted - 2014.10.23 18:53:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:Was wondering why posts were talking about real-life violence and then realized this was a carebear thread. Carebears always go there.
Shockingly quickly As well.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6025
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Posted - 2014.10.23 18:54:29 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Is anyone else wondering what violent spousal abuse has to do with winning in a video game?
No actually,
I'd rather not know.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6031
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Posted - 2014.10.23 19:06:32 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Is anyone else wondering what violent spousal abuse has to do with winning in a video game? No actually, I'd rather not know. As usual it's the "elite PvP" folks who are always obsessing over these things.
First off Im wildly inept at pvp and have never claimed otherwise.
I have however stated i thoroughly enjoy it.
Secondly ,
what?
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.23 19:27:23 -
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La Nariz wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Is anyone else wondering what violent spousal abuse has to do with winning in a video game? No actually, I'd rather not know. As usual it's the "elite PvP" folks who are always obsessing over these things. How about keeping the violence in game like we do? Or just post your meltdown thread and do your iz-esque threatening posts. like this?
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6038
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Posted - 2014.10.23 19:34:04 -
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DaReaper wrote:
OT: Ralph, first time someone showed up and orange to me on the forums lol.
Iv been showing as -10 to myself for weeks now, I wouldn't worry about it dude.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6038
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Posted - 2014.10.23 19:36:43 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:DaReaper wrote:
OT: Ralph, first time someone showed up and orange to me on the forums lol.
Iv been showing as -10 to myself for weeks now, I wouldn't worry about it dude. That'll be the self loathing because you're obviously a terrible person for shooting people in the face in a video game where you're allowed to shoot people in the face 
Or the hangover
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6039
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Posted - 2014.10.23 19:49:12 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:I don't mind people getting screwed over when they put themselves in situations of trust, but I think CCP should remove the trust factor from a lot of things. For one, POCOs and POSes should be up for contract/trade to legitimize buying them without needing a third party. Also, I have no idea why there isn't a simple "duel to 50% hull" option, or just until pod - I think it would encourage PvP among high-sec residents if they knew they could practice with strangers without having to put their ship (or pod) on the line.
Your pod isn't on the line though, it's impossible to lock a pod if you're spamming warp the second you exexplode .
if I can catch your pod. you deserve it.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6047
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Posted - 2014.10.24 00:22:39 -
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Brochan McLeod wrote:
Now that the dust has settled a bit i'd like to apologize for losing my temper earlier.
You guys are very good at getting someone riled up but that is no excuse for me losing it.
No problem dude,
forum pvp can have that effect (oh yeah, the forums have been weponised long before either of us started playing).
just be aware that when a discussion gets heated like that and someone thinks they have you on tilt,
they will just wind you up to see how fast you spin when set loose
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6048
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Posted - 2014.10.24 00:28:07 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Brochan McLeod wrote:
Now that the dust has settled a bit i'd like to apologize for losing my temper earlier.
You guys are very good at getting someone riled up but that is no excuse for me losing it.
No problem dude, forum pvp can have that effect (oh yeah, the forums have been weponised long before either of us started playing). just be aware that when a discussion gets heated like that and someone thinks they have you on tilt, they will just wind you up to see how fast you spin when set loose And then things like this happen.
and this
Edit : also if it makes you feel any better Brochan McLeod, check my kill board losses (link in my sig)
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:40:54 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Serene Repose wrote:I wish I could agree with your premise OP, but I think you have to restate it. You're really talking about the problems with associating with sociopaths. You can see a post like this brings them out of the woodwork and they have no problem at all crowing about their sociopathic behavior - touting it to be perfectly normal, while YOUR perspective is the problem.
They have no compunction about bragging they are not men of their word, or ladies with integrity and honor. They will boast about lying as a rule, then vilify you for getting near enough to them to hear them utter those lies. Ah, but to believe them? They'd lie in game. Why do we assume they aren't lying here? I don't. May their egos shrivel up even more.
a.) Our society generates sociopaths as a natural result of its nature.
b.) It's been happening so long people now think it IS human nature.
c.) Anyone, just anyone, can access the internet.
d.) Why wouldn't they find EVE the perfect environment?
e.) Haven't I been saying this for years now?
"The fault is not in our stars, Brutus. It is in ourselves." Saying someone is a sociopath for disassociating consequences and their actions in a digital gaming environment is a stretch at best.
It's a flat out insult in most other cases.
saying a person has a malformed mind and is completely lacking in any kind of empathetic cognitive function is exactly the same as calling someone r3tarded ,( which would get you a ballgag in short order if you threw that around).
It's a game Serene, cop on and stop acting like a smelly console kiddie.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:10:03 -
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i miss dinsdale,
if he were able to post we would all be arguing with/laughing at him instead of bickering between ourselves.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:33:42 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote: it is certainly reasonable to say that someone with the educational back ground and years experience would know what they are talking about
that rather depend upon what thy are talking about though
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.24 15:57:54 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:This is because in order for something to trigger an emotion in you (whether it's joy, happiness, anger, frustration, etc.) , it requires emotional investment.
However, it looks as though people are confused and want to equate emotional investment with emotional attachment.
It's possible to be emotionally invested without becoming emotionally attached. the article doesn't say this and if this line of conversation is only about bloody semantics then i will become very emotional in the thread
i fear benny you may become very emotional in the thread
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.24 16:02:55 -
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Wallace Trucker wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Brochan McLeod wrote:
chances are that if you behave like an oaf ingame ( and even defend it)... you are an oaf IRL... and i DONT mean the PvP mechanics.
^^ difficulty disassociating real world emotional value responses from digital actions. you realise this attitude is why we glory in carebear tears without feeling bad right. This response concerns me. It seems you believe your pixelized character has a brain of it's own, and you have no control over it's actions. You just sign it on, and he takes off doing it's own thing. The fact is this digital character is a direct reflection of who you are. The digital character in every way is you. He reflects your morals, your thought patterns and processes, right down to your very soul. It is incapable of thinking for itself, or taking actions without YOU telling it what to do. This is an issue that human society is going to have to deal with in the near future. Are machines, avatars, robots, or any mechanical or virtual thing responsible for their own actions? Or is the human in control of that machine responsible. (If I command my robot to murder my ex-wife...am I responsible if it does kill her?)
^^
also has difficulty disassociating real world emotional value responses from digital actions.
its a role(really important word that), its make believe internet spaceship pixels, it is in no way a reflection of anything other than how i play make believe internet spaceship pixels.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6069
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Posted - 2014.10.24 16:09:06 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:This is because in order for something to trigger an emotion in you (whether it's joy, happiness, anger, frustration, etc.) , it requires emotional investment.
However, it looks as though people are confused and want to equate emotional investment with emotional attachment.
It's possible to be emotionally invested without becoming emotionally attached. the article doesn't say this and if this line of conversation is only about bloody semantics then i will become very emotional in the thread i fear benny you may become very emotional in the thread i should have known better than to allow myself to become emotionally invested in a forum thread
you should try becoming a sociopath dude, all the cool kids are doing it.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.24 17:25:21 -
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Wallace Trucker wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Wallace Trucker wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Brochan McLeod wrote:
chances are that if you behave like an oaf ingame ( and even defend it)... you are an oaf IRL... and i DONT mean the PvP mechanics.
^^ difficulty disassociating real world emotional value responses from digital actions. you realise this attitude is why we glory in carebear tears without feeling bad right. This response concerns me. It seems you believe your pixelized character has a brain of it's own, and you have no control over it's actions. You just sign it on, and he takes off doing it's own thing. The fact is this digital character is a direct reflection of who you are. The digital character in every way is you. He reflects your morals, your thought patterns and processes, right down to your very soul. It is incapable of thinking for itself, or taking actions without YOU telling it what to do. This is an issue that human society is going to have to deal with in the near future. Are machines, avatars, robots, or any mechanical or virtual thing responsible for their own actions? Or is the human in control of that machine responsible. (If I command my robot to murder my ex-wife...am I responsible if it does kill her?) ^^ also has difficulty disassociating real world emotional value responses from digital actions. its a role ( really important word that), its make believe internet spaceship pixels, it is in no way a reflection of anything other than how i play make believe internet spaceship pixels. just another justification for YOUR actions, or a split personality disorder. You are who you are or playing at being something your not, either way the pixels are under YOUR control and only do what YOU tell them to do. Which hopefully involve a thought process. That should include, is this action I'm about to take right or wrong.
*pinches nose*
are you familiar with any of these concepts?
Role Play
Role-playing refers to the changing of one's behaviour to assume a role, either unconsciously to fill a social role, or consciously to act out an adopted role. While the Oxford English Dictionary offers a definition of role-playing as "the changing of one's behaviour to fulfill a social role", in the field of psychology, the term is used more loosely in four senses:
To refer to the playing of roles generally such as in a theatre, or educational setting;
To refer to taking a role of an existing character or person and acting it out with a partner taking someone else's role, often involving different genres of practice;
To refer to a wide range of games including role-playing video game, play-by-mail games and more;
To refer specifically to role-playing games.[2]
Acting
Acting is the work of an actor or actress, which is a person in theatre, television, film, or any other storytelling medium who tells the story by portraying a character and, usually, speaking or singing the written text or play.
make believe
Make believe is a loosely structured form of role-playing that generally has no rules except to stay in character, and requires no specific props. It is normally restricted to young, pre-pubescent children, and aside from its straightforward purpose of fun can sometimes also serve the purpose of allowing children to explore adult roles and relationships. Make believe play can reveal a great deal about a child's psychological state, perception of gender roles, home life and interpretation of the world that is around them.
if not , you should probably remedy that.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.24 18:12:23 -
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Wallace Trucker wrote:I am familiar with all these terms and there definitions. But these terms would all indicate that all involved parties are aware of the fact that the person is "role playing" and are familiar with who the person really is.
http://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg
Quote: And if you are role playing why choose to play a criminal who shoots and steals from other people...this also concerns me. because playing Allan from accounting is too edgy for me
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
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Posted - 2014.10.24 22:11:40 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:Wallace Trucker wrote:
I am familiar with all these terms and there definitions. But these terms would all indicate that all involved parties are aware of the fact that the person is "role playing" and are familiar with who the person really is. And if you are role playing why choose to play a criminal who shoots and steals from other people...this also concerns me.
While I'm no fan of the role Ralph-King Griffin has taken on in Eve (ganking players) I do accept it's part of an open world PvP RPG game like Eve. When you sign up on a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) you can rest assured that everyone plays a role, some lie close to who they are in reality, while many personailties differ alot between their real self and the virtual avatar they play. Roleplaying a thief & assassin is a very common role people assume in manyy RPG's, it's why there's a Thief/Rogue/Assassin class in most RPGs. Note, I'm not defending ganking, but I am defending the freedom people have in taking whatever role they want to be, from Hero to Villain and anything in between. After all, a PVP game without opponents would die out quickly. As for me, I take precautions to minimize ganking on myself, by choosing less travelled rotues & transport stuff with appropriate ships or fly with appropriate fits. Oh, and if you wodner my role in Eve? It's reporter, I report on various shenanigans in eve from an ingame perspective, like 'Ganker Ganked!', showing that Eve is not a game of black & white, but just various shades of grey.
Great post, one minor correction though.
I'm not a ganker.
legitimate war targets,
bear flipping(related to ganking but with considerable nuance involved),
lowsec asshattery,
targets of opportunity ect ect,
I'm not "above" ganking but it would have to be a specific target of interest.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.25 19:23:38 -
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Brochan McLeod wrote:Suz1 wrote:I encourage my children to play Eve, so they can learn first hand why they shouldn't trust strangers, in an environment where the consequences for trusting strangers won't really hurt them. I really hope you just made this up... i really do  EDIT : Unless they are of a certain age ofcourse...
Actually, provided you have the swear filtering for the chat channels set up properly , or better yet, closed completely there's little to expexpose children to, the vast majority of the adult content in eve comes through those channels and private mail so if you monitor their play you can avoid stuff like inappropriate language, jpegs and gifs.
And in answer to your earlier post, no this never ends.
this thread crops up consistently I'd say about 2 or 3 times a month, some with more gusto than others but it generally pans out the same,
we have the same arguments over the same things and ocasionally someone gets rather worked up about it and rages for pages and pages (not pointing at you, to be fair you cooled off and realised the triviality of it) about how eve is flawed and were all sociopaths for endorsing the predator role (in the only game that's been infamous for years for allowing it) and how they will unsubscribe their eleventytwelvethousand accounts (that they plex) if ccp doesn't ["fix" eve to match their preconceived notions/permaban every one involved/remove PvP in highsec] .
we can (and have) recite the whole thing off the top of our heads.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Lords.Of.Midnight
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Posted - 2014.10.25 19:25:27 -
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Brochan McLeod wrote:Suz1 wrote:I encourage my children to play Eve, so they can learn first hand why they shouldn't trust strangers, in an environment where the consequences for trusting strangers won't really hurt them. I really hope you just made this up... i really do EDIT : Unless they are of a certain age ofcourse...
Actually, provided you have the swear filtering for the chat channels set up properly , or better yet, closed completely there's little to expexpose children to, the vast majority of the adult content in eve comes through those channels and private mail so if you monitor their play you can avoid stuff like inappropriate language, jpegs and gifs.
And in answer to your earlier post, no this never ends.
this thread crops up consistently I'd say about 2 or 3 times a month, some with more gusto than others but it generally pans out the same,
we have the same arguments over the same things and ocasionally someone gets rather worked up about it and rages for pages and pages (not pointing at you, to be fair you cooled off and realised the triviality of it) about how eve is flawed and were all sociopaths for endorsing the predator role (in the only game that's been infamous for years for allowing it) and how they will unsubscribe their eleventytwelvethousand accounts (that they plex) if ccp doesn't ["fix" eve to match their preconceived notions/permaban every one involved/remove PvP in highsec] .
we can (and have) recite the whole thing off the top of our heads.
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What has the world come to. back in my day you could trust strangers on the internet.
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13kr1d1 wrote:or have been abused
one fair warning.
say that again and you will have a petition.
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13kr1d1 wrote:Your motivations attempt to conflate the issue with something else.
fyi This is a public board with a permanent record (o7 chribba).
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Veers Belvar wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
And yet you seem to spend an inordinate amount of time crying about what I do and post. So apparently one of us is much more interested in the other, and it sure ain't me.
He posts less than you do per day. Oh, and he isn't crying, he's actively mocking you. Much of this forum is doing that, for that matter. No, he, like you, is obsessing with what I post - unable to handle out that some of us are proud and happy PvE players, unrepentant for our playstyles. And for someone who goes around calling himself a high functioning sociopath, I'm really, really unconcerned by attempts from you and your ilk to mock me.
well luckily for us, the posts you leave here are several orders of magnitude funnier than anything we could say about you
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Bastion Arzi wrote:why dont people band together? wait till they go criminal and then kill them. steal their loot for urself and dock up.
we do, its fun
they don't make it exactly easy though, so some coordination is required hens the bears aren't botherd.
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something like that,
they see a coordinated group they cannot touch solo and instead of coordinating into a group and going hell for leather opt to whinge and whine about coordination being op
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Veers Belvar wrote:
More nonsense. Highsec is by definition not lawless. Never claimed RvB are -10.
PvP doesn't make you more "elite" than PvE. It's a choice - both are valid. I prefer PvE. And I enjoy playing Eve for the PvE, why would I play something else. I shouldn't need to "stop" gankers in highsec. We have a police force. Criminals, especially repeat offenders, should be properly punished.
*cough*
Veers "1337" Belvar wrote: I'm elite PvE, elite PvP, and elite Eve.
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Veers Belvar wrote:I'm perfectly entitled to speak up for them.
you are entitled to speak for yourself and no one els veers,
drop the messianic complex man, its ugly.
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Quote:A lot of the time Concord responds to crime by not doing anything if you see my point. I see your point, but it is working as intended, Concord only respond to "serious" crime. Once the timer has expired they forget all about it, perhaps there should be conditions under which a suspect flag remains for an extended duration.
such as?
i spend a lot of my time in game suspect flagged so .
currently the 15 minuet timer is extended if i steal anything els or if i shoot at anyone's assets in space.
and fyi i get shot at by players at gates all the time if i travel with that timer (bears might be cowards but you run into all sorts at gates)
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Rowells wrote:Considering the ideas here, I believe football (american) needs to have tackling removed since it causes less athletic/tough people to not play. I would like to get this petition to the NFL board as soon as possible, so if you could just sign here...
X________________
better suggestion would be to play it without the body armour
as is the case with rugby
(much the same american "football" but played by men)
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Rowells wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Rowells wrote:Considering the ideas here, I believe football (american) needs to have tackling removed since it causes less athletic/tough people to not play. I would like to get this petition to the NFL board as soon as possible, so if you could just sign here...
X________________ better suggestion would be to play it without the body armour as is the case with rugby (much the same american "football" but played by men) I was going to suggest adding more pillows and a change to a less aggressive form of hugging the opposing players until they feel obligated to stop out of mutual friendship. Replacing the men with schoolgirls might be a welcome addition for the common man as well. Not for the reasons you think.
forgive me but didn't you just describe american football?
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Quote:A lot of the time Concord responds to crime by not doing anything if you see my point. I see your point, but it is working as intended, Concord only respond to "serious" crime. Once the timer has expired they forget all about it, perhaps there should be conditions under which a suspect flag remains for an extended duration. such as? i spend a lot of my time in game suspect flagged so . currently the 15 minuet timer is extended if i steal anything els or if i shoot at anyone's assets in space. and fyi i get shot at by players at gates all the time if i travel with that timer (bears might be cowards but you run into all sorts at gates) As soon as you hit -5 security status then that flag is effectively permanent but until that point it is always 15mins, why not have a progressively longer flag the more crime you comit until you reach -5 security status ?
once you hit -2 sec status the local npc's start chasing you and will asplode your ship when they catch you
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Some Rando wrote:I thought dealing with carebears on a daily basis was punishment enough, now we're talking about punishing gankers further? You could remove the -5 sec status ruling if the suspect flags were long enough to keep everyone happy.
nevil...have you ever actually gone suspect?
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^^ http://i.imgur.com/AJrLSKY.jpg
if your going to troll nevil, at least make it funny.
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Accuse me of homosexuality
stop typing verrs, for your own good.
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Veers Belvar wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
Accuse me of homosexuality
stop typing verrs, for your own good. Hardly. Expecting at least a minimal level of decorum on the forums should not be too much to ask for. I don't think the supposed "dystopian" society of Eve extends to the forums.
completely missing the point there bucko.
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Please in the future do try to avoid this kind of stupidity, it just adds more fuel to forums full of so much trolling and antagonism already.
Please in the future do try to avoid this kind of stupidity, it just adds more fuel to forums full of so much trolling and antagonism already.
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Max Deveron wrote:Highsec players especially miners need to man up and defend themselves, their neighbors, and if they want to be part of a corp then they need to SFTU and learn how that corp operates so they can learn how to be part of a group.
They also need to learn...in EvE...AFK/BOts/ISboxers/sissies/beggars/whiners deserve to be shot/ganked/dec'd/trolled and otherwise abused (within terms of the EULA of course) till they learn how to play or leave.
o7
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Keno Skir wrote:I like the way eve is (was). Even as a new player bei9ng victimised myself, i thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the dark scaryness of it all. Without the **** players out there trying to screw me EvE would have been boring and i'd have left ages ago.
Grow a pair, this is the way things should be.
actually the op posted in the thread again and it was an enlightened and encouraging post.
yeah your right though, for the first yer of play i was prey but i fell in love with the edgy fear that new eden instils
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:
I think you are jumping to a lot of conclusions about what other players are doing, what they want and why without any statistical evidence to back it up.
this is general discussion,
you dont let silly things like evidence an statistics get in the way of a good hysterical rant about the games imminent death
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