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Davey Talvanen State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.10.23 16:22:40 - [1] - Quote I've bought a PvP tackle fit and have calculated it to cost 800,000 isk and need tips on making money in high before go into low
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6010	Posted - 2014.10.23 16:47:15 - [2] - Quote have you done the tutorials? "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Trey Kutoi Nyarlthotep Holdings Ltd. 5	Posted - 2014.10.23 16:48:52 - [3] - Quote Davey Talvanen wrote: I've bought a PvP tackle fit and have calculated it to cost 800,000 isk and need tips on making money in high before go into low Join Faction War and make money while PVP (or be a lamer LP farmer) If that isn;t an option, get a cruiser and blitz L3 missions I personally found 2 systems with 3 L3 agents in the same station, so I just cherrypick the agents which have blitzable missions and do all of them at once, only doing the minimum amount of the mission I need for the quickest completion. This gives me about 2mil per mission (with social skills and whatnot) and each mission takes about 5 minutes, maybe 10 with travel time (though if I get a good loop of missions through the constellation, it can be fewer) Hisec Ratting is crap, and combat sites are unreliable (I got a sentient drone damage amp from one, once... approx 100mil, but most of the time I get crap not even worth its own volume to haul around)
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 2140	Posted - 2014.10.23 16:51:18 - [4] - Quote i would advise you to run the tutorials for starters. after that, there is missions, exploration, industry, planetary interaction, trade or a mix of all the above. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings." -MXZF
Davey Talvanen State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.10.23 16:56:57 - [5] - Quote I've done the tutorials already but tried to do some market PvP so lost nearly all my money.Now I have 500,000 isk only
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4731	Posted - 2014.10.23 17:07:28 - [6] - Quote Most missions in high-sec pay more then a million each... Specially if you scale it up a bit to L3 / L4 missions yet keep your PvP costs low(ish) you can make a profit. High-sec exploration can be good too, but is a big hit/miss system Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar
Davey Talvanen State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.10.23 17:10:01 - [7] - Quote Can I have the location of any good mission spots near jita
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6015	Posted - 2014.10.23 17:27:15 - [8] - Quote fountain (or something like that), its like 2 jumps out of jita "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Davey Talvanen State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.10.23 17:30:00 - [9] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: fountain (or something like that), its like 2 jumps out of jita Thanks
Davey Talvanen State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.10.23 17:36:24 - [10] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: fountain (or something like that), its like 2 jumps out of jita I can't find it ;do you have exact name (I'm half-way across High-sec trying to find an old mission hub I went to)

Soloman Jackson Locust Assets 69	Posted - 2014.10.23 18:00:55 - [11] - Quote This might help you find some agents close to you. http://eve-agents.com/ [i]"I heard you know a thing or two, about a thing or two. Maybe we can come to an understanding..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69zvFnVa03g[/i]
Davey Talvanen State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.10.23 18:32:47 - [12] - Quote Soloman Jackson wrote: This might help you find some agents close to you. http://eve-agents.com/ Thx
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 185	Posted - 2014.10.23 21:03:57 - [13] - Quote Not sure if it's better money than regular agents, but you can repeat the tutorial missions at a different set of career agents.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 6541	Posted - 2014.10.23 21:40:51 - [14] - Quote Davey Talvanen wrote: I've bought a PvP tackle fit and have calculated it to cost 800,000 isk and need tips on making money in high before go into low Being a tackler is a good choice for beginning PVP. Not for the reasons usually given, though. The reason is that it's a great way to come to terms with ship loss. You will basically be using it once before it's destroyed. So what you want is to have at least ten of the things sitting in your hangar fitted and ready to go else you'll just be frustrated and maybe quit. So make yourself 10M or so and then go at it. It may not seem like it but that is a really easy amount to make. The other option is to join a corp with a ship replacement policy. As to how to earn ISKies quickly, most of the easy ones have been mentioned already. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4731	Posted - 2014.10.23 21:45:44 - [15] - Quote Davey Talvanen wrote: Can I have the location of any good mission spots near jita Should we also hold your hand while we guide you to the missions and then while you run them? Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6044	Posted - 2014.10.23 21:54:12 - [16] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Davey Talvanen wrote: Can I have the location of any good mission spots near jita Should we also hold your hand while we guide you to the missions and then while you run them? Let's be honest here, we likely will end up doing exactly that. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 6541	Posted - 2014.10.23 22:08:05 - [17] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: J'Poll wrote: Davey Talvanen wrote: Can I have the location of any good mission spots near jita Should we also hold your hand while we guide you to the missions and then while you run them? Let's be honest here, we likely will end up doing exactly that. I know, right? We who post here as well as in GD are such prime examples of dissociative identity disorder. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Clavain Conjoined Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2014.10.23 23:20:38 - [18] - Quote Davey Talvanen wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: fountain (or something like that), its like 2 jumps out of jita I can't find it ;do you have exact name (I'm half-way across High-sec trying to find an old mission hub I went to) I've found this site to be an invaluable tool for figuring out where you are and where you're going: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/
Balshem Rozenzweig 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 68	Posted - 2014.10.24 08:12:58 - [19] - Quote Google Sisters of Eve Epic Arc. I think it was called "Chasing the Shadows" it will give you around 20 M for starting your career but you will need to ship up to a fail fit (skills) cruiser in order to complete. The mission works best with drones + missiles. At least some enemies can scram + fast orbit you and it hurts a new player to replace the ship. When it comes to FW - you can earn some money orbiting beacons for 10-20 minutes and getting LPs out of it. You will need some initial isk and way to transport the stuff to a trade hub. I wouldn't recommend going into that solo. Better find a newbie friendly FW corp (I think many would take a newbie) and check their kill board - if they are active join them. If the corp has 500 people but only 2-3 of them are on the kills - well it's your risk. "NUTS!!!" - general McAuliffe
Alliria Seedspawn Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 103	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:31:42 - [20] - Quote No one here has yet mentioned baiting Mission Runners. It's closer to PvP than PvE, but it's a great way to make isk in high sec, and with the proper support, making billions is completely possible and realistic. You'll be hated by many, but have some good fun and make some isk in the process. Send me an Eve Mail if you'd like to know more.

Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 3610	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:45:23 - [21] - Quote Two suggestions OP. Suggestion one is joining Faction Warfare for the Caldari (even if you aren't Caldari) and turning the loyalty points you earn there into Datacore - Quantum Physics*, and selling those on the open market. You will quickly be able to afford a large stockpile of cheap ships this way - a few hours and you'll be able to get a few dozen frigates with tech 2 fittings. It's not PVE or highsec but it is newbie friendly (somewhat). Suggestion two is echoing the mission baiter approach. What you do here is use Combat Scanner Probes and the probing skills from the tutorial to find people running level 4 missions in fairly expensive ships that are optimized for shooting large targets, then enter their mission deadspaces and steal from their wrecks and generally be a real nuisance. Smacktalk them in local, etc. Depending how good at provoking them you are, anywhere from 10% to 20% of them will shoot you. This is what you want. You then 'tackle' them (prevent them fleeing) and very slowly whittle down their shield, armor and structure. You have three choices - offer a ransom and honor it; offer a ransom and dishonor it, or don't offer one at all. Some mission runners have very valuable modules on their ships, you can steal these from the wreck and sell them. www.minerbumping.com - Mining accidents are on the increase. Don't become a statistic, become a permit holder! Ganking doesn't need a purpose, the gank is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I gank.
Crimson Draufgange Extreme Overkill Inc. 7	Posted - 2014.11.14 00:28:25 - [22] - Quote Davey Talvanen wrote: I've bought a PvP tackle fit and have calculated it to cost 800,000 isk and need tips on making money in high before go into low Incursions. Best way to make ISK in high sec. Crimson Draufgange, CEO of Extreme Overkill Inc.
Sera Kor-Azor Viziam Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2014.11.18 23:21:19 - [23] - Quote Davey Talvanen wrote: I've done the tutorials already but tried to do some market PvP so lost nearly all my money.Now I have 500,000 isk only If you want, you can do the newbie tutorials at each of the three starter systems. It's very boring, but that would give you the money for the missions, plus three of each of the starter frigates they give you, plus SIX of the industrial hauler(s). Keep them, sell them, reprocess them for the minerals, do whatever you want with them. Buy platinum insurance and you will get money back for your 'free' ships if they ever get blown up. Jita is the super trade hub of New Eden. You would need hundreds of billions in ISK and months or years of training to successfully compete with the sharks there. Jita is also rife with market scams, such as price gouging, the .01 ISK game, etc. If you want to try your hand at Station trading/ market PVP, start at a smaller trade hub. Lonetrek has many good smaller trade (and mission) hubs, and it's the region right next to where Jita is. As a newbie trader, you would make better money. learn more about the markets, and see lots more of New Eden through inter-regional hauling. Buy stuff in one region for cheap, haul it, sell it in another region for more money. Profit. One market you can get into right away are skillbooks. The same skillbooks which sell for the NPC (non-player corp) price in your starter system will sell for a much higher price in Jita. Skillbooks are also small and light, so you can deliver them in a small frigate or even a shuttle. Sell some of the duplicate skillbooks that you would get from doing the newbie tutorials over again will sell quickly in Jita. The higher priced skillbooks however (50 million and up) are where the bigger profits are made. Since you have indicated that you have an interest in both: a) Market PVP and b) Low sec PVP, I would highly suggest that you start another alt and train them up to be your Hauler/Trader. You have to stop training on your main to start training an alt, but a simple hauler alt takes as little as a few hours to skill up. Caldari have some of the smallest tech 1 industrial ships in the game. Amarr have bigger haulers which are also quick to train. Minmatar have some pretty decent haulers, but you have to train to level 4 to fly the biggest. Gallente have the biggest hauler, in the game, the Iteron V, but you need to train to level 5 to fly it. If you leave your hauler out of corp, you can contract your stuff to your alt, and move your stuff around even if your main character has been war decced. Leave the hauler in the NPC corporation. If you want to train Trading skills on this alt, you might find it helpful to run some PVE missions for Caldari Navy. That's the corporation that owns Jita 4-4 station. For this, you can run some pretty boring distribution missions if your alt has no combat skills. This will raise your standings with the station, which means lower taxes, which means more profit. You will probably want to quit the NPC corporation before you start running missions though, or they will take 11% of what you make in taxes. If you want, you can start your own corp, set the taxes to zero, run missions, and drop the corp later. Your third alt can be trained as a scout, or someone to sit in another station so you can compare the prices between two regions quickly. Jita is super-huge as a Trade hub, so things there tend to be cheap and sell quickly. In a place like Amarr system, Emperor station, things take a longer time to move, but sell for a higher price. Note that if you really, really want to, you can do the newbie tutorials for all three starter systems on all three of your characters. That would give you fifteen frigates of at least three of the races, something like 18 industrial hauler ships, all of the duplicate/ redundant skill books you can sell, as well as the money for completing the missions. That might be a little too dull for some people, but it is an option. Also, EVE University provides free training, free skill books, free ships, etc. However, many Faction Warfare corporations will also give you free ships and modules, as well as the occasional skillbooks, implants, etc.
Thomas Builder Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 512	Posted - 2014.11.19 01:19:21 - [24] - Quote Sera Kor-Azor wrote: You have to stop training on your main to start training an alt, but a simple hauler alt takes as little as a few hours to skill up. Caldari have some of the smallest tech 1 industrial ships in the game. Amarr have bigger haulers which are also quick to train. Minmatar have some pretty decent haulers, but you have to train to level 4 to fly the biggest. Gallente have the biggest hauler, in the game, the Iteron V, but you need to train to level 5 to fly it. When did you came out of hibernation? This has all been changed more than a year ago in Odyssey - now all haulers only require Industrial level 1 and have been rebalanced to be roughly equivalent. Each race now has two base haulers, one with a bigger hold and one that's faster, nimbler and tankier. Some races have specialized haulers on top of that for special cargo (ore, minerals, PI stuff, ammo). And the biggest Hauler is the Caldari Tayra, but the difference between the races is much smaller than it used to be. Finally, I personally like the nimbler ones better - their cargo hold usually suffice and they are much faster.


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