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          R0mparkin 
          Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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        Posted - 2014.10.24 09:24:58 -
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          as someone who recently started eve, i could use the help. i have lost everything in pvp and recruitment scams. i would gladly take anything as i dont have means to pay more then the monthly sub. as far a learning to earn my own stuff. i have. but i have zero assets or money now. i tend to sit in the station asking for help. eve players are so rude that the help they offer me is in the form of bounty. so please donate some to me i am deserving and in need, | 
      
      
      
          
          La Rynx 
          School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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        Posted - 2014.10.24 09:57:30 -
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          seeing all those "can i haz" beggars, i suggest:
  a) keep the stuff maybe it gets better. b) blow it up in a big big fireball
  this is fine, will keep inflation down. If you have isk, i suggest you buy plex, prices are rising, its quite a save bank.
  You are right: "something given has no value" So do not give your stuff away, it will not be appreciated.
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          Harland White 
          Dragonaurs Caldari Armed Forces.
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        Posted - 2014.10.24 10:21:14 -
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          You people are constantly so bitter and hateful, even to someone who's posted a benign thread like this. Your IRLives must be miserable...daddy issues, daddy issues all around I bet. Pathetic.
 By their fruit you will recognize them. 
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          13kr1d1 
          Hedion University Amarr Empire
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          Musashi IV wrote:I started playing EVE when it was a year old. I eventually purchased 3 accounts. I am an ice miner...period. All my accounts are dedicated to ice mining. I know it sounds boring but I like to read and mine ICE. I also like to collect ships all types of ships. Ice pays for the ships and my accounts. I used to be able log on anytime and mine ICE. Now Im lucky I can find an ice field. When I do find an ICE field thier are so many ships mining that Im lucky if I can fill one mining ship let alone an Orca before the ice is gone. I dont have to time to wait arround for hours for another ice field to appear. Now all my accounts are closed. I still have billions in my accounts so I could play for years for free. Now I only open an account to see what kind of new ships I can buy and take them for a spin.
  I dont think would be fair to give away my stuff. How would you players learn the meaning of earning your own stuff!!  
  Giving away your stuff also screws up the market for new players. A lot of people **** and moan about "trickle down economics" but the reality is that if old players act like a self imposed government on controlling market prices, then new players cant increase the price of their sell orders and profit more than 1% isk at time, leaving them forever in low price purgatory. The same is true of people being charity alliances or corps that dont charge their members. What they're really doing is shouldering the entire cost of running and growth themselves, and when you have more charities than actual working businesses, the economy stagnates.
  If none of this were true, trading and other industry would be as profitable as mission running by now.
 
 Harland White wrote:You people are constantly so bitter and hateful, even to someone who's posted a benign thread like this. Your IRLives must be miserable...daddy issues, daddy issues all around I bet. Pathetic.  
 
  Quoted so you cant erase it when you realize later how much your own words put you in that box. | 
      
      
      
          
          War Kitten 
          Panda McLegion
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          Harland White wrote:You people are constantly so bitter and hateful, even to someone who's posted a benign thread like this. Your IRLives must be miserable...daddy issues, daddy issues all around I bet. Pathetic.  
  Way to be bitter and hateful to all the bitter and hateful people. You sure showed them!
 I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. 
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          embrel 
          BamBam Inc. Outlanders United
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          Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Musashi IV wrote:I started playing EVE when it was a year old. I eventually purchased 3 accounts. I am an ice miner...period.   If all your gonna do is mine, youre gonna have a bad time.  
  ...reading comprehension :P he clearly stated that he doesn't just mine ICE! ...he reads all the while too!! | 
      
      
      
          
          Caleb Seremshur 
          The Atomic Fallout Kids
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        Posted - 2014.10.24 11:50:37 -
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          R0mparkin wrote:as someone who recently started eve, i could use the help. i have lost everything in pvp and recruitment scams. i would gladly take anything as i dont have means to pay more then the monthly sub. as far a learning to earn my own stuff. i have. but i have zero assets or money now. i tend to sit in the station asking for help. eve players are so rude that the help they offer me is in the form of bounty. so please donate some to me i am deserving and in need,  
  You deserve something from us? You're not entitled to anything and nothing is more pathetic than a beggar.
  You should look up noobship challenge, I made enough money to fly a faction-fit hawk in a single week from using my brain and applying myself in the right areas. If ever that thread had a point this is the day.
 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348015
T3 OHing subsystem review and rebalance
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=290346
LP faction weapon store costs rebalancing 
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          Novemis 
          Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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        Posted - 2014.10.24 12:53:17 -
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          OP has some kind of ice fetish. 
  Firstly, I have two accounts which can generally mine around 1,000 units of ice a week. I don't see your barge in those ice belts.
  Secondly, what is your obsession with ice? Maybe do some asteroid mining? Not a lot of difference isk/hr wise and it's almost exactly the same action.
  Finally, here's what most of your post sounds like:
  "Waaah I like making easy isk and other players are making it harder to make isk waaah"
  Here's an idea for you, MR BILLIONS OF ISK,
  If you love your ice mining soooo much that you just can't play without it why don't you pay a corp to suicide gank all the miners that take your ore, or get them to declare war on them all, take them out of the game.
 
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          Jenn aSide 
          Smokin Aces.
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        Posted - 2014.10.24 14:09:08 -
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          A few years ago, I lived in Tribute (before Goons came and took it, grr goons and all that). I ratted Guristas Forsaken Hubs like their was no tommorow.. with my Vindicator and 2 FoF missile Tengus I pulled in 230+ mil per hour for very little work ('hardest' thing was restarting the FoF missile launchers every 5 minutes or so after a reload).. A {LEX was a relaxing 2-3 hours of drinking beer and watching football on TV only having to restart missiles and glance at local form time to time.
  Can't do the same now. Since then CCP has nerfed tracking enhancers, heavy missiles and added frigates to forsaken hub. With the same set up I'm lucky to crack 140 mil an hour (using 3 freaking clients). A PLEX is a maddening 5+ hour grind now (ok, still not bad over the course of a month, but worse than it was).
  It's the nature of EVE that things like this change. CCP never told me "you will be able to do the same thing forever with the same results" which is why I haven't gone insane at the lost income potential various nerfs created for me in null sec. Rather, I learned other ways to do the same thing, now I'm blitzing lvl 5s in low sec and doing faction warfare missions. | 
      
      
      
          
          Insta TheKing 
          The Nigglers Holed Up
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        Posted - 2014.10.25 10:03:38 -
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          Musashi IV wrote:I started playing EVE when it was a year old. I eventually purchased 3 accounts. I am an ice miner...period. All my accounts are dedicated to ice mining. I know it sounds boring but I like to read and mine ICE. I also like to collect ships all types of ships. Ice pays for the ships and my accounts. I used to be able log on anytime and mine ICE. Now Im lucky I can find an ice field. When I do find an ICE field thier are so many ships mining that Im lucky if I can fill one mining ship let alone an Orca before the ice is gone. I dont have to time to wait arround for hours for another ice field to appear. Now all my accounts are closed. I still have billions in my accounts so I could play for years for free. Now I only open an account to see what kind of new ships I can buy and take them for a spin.
  I dont think would be fair to give away my stuff. How would you players learn the meaning of earning your own stuff!!  
 
 
   Your first mistake was claiming to PLAY eve. Having 3 accounts just to farm "ICE" and taking ships for a spin doesn't really count as playing. Stop being a carebear and take part in some of the better aspects of eve. Besides, for a game you don't support whatsoever monetarily you sure do QQ a lot. | 
      
      
      
          
          BrundleMeth 
          Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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        Posted - 2014.10.25 11:03:22 -
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          Some of the comments here are just simply stupid...
  I keep hearing EVE is a sandbox, you can do whatever you like.
  This guy wanted to mine ICE and do nothing else. But every critical fewl is running him down and telling him "you aren't really playing EVE unless you play like everyone else, there is so much more to do in EVE."
  So what? He wants to mine ICE or quit. 
  My advice to him is the same advice for myself. If quit, I will Biomass with all my ISK and gear. No one gets a thing... | 
      
      
      
          
          Caleb Seremshur 
          The Atomic Fallout Kids
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        Posted - 2014.10.25 11:28:25 -
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          Insta TheKing wrote:  Your first mistake was claiming to PLAY eve. Having 3 accounts just to farm "ICE" and taking ships for a spin doesn't really count as playing. Stop being a carebear and take part in some of the better aspects of eve. Besides, for a game you don't support whatsoever monetarily you sure do QQ a lot.
  
  Do people really still not understand how PLEX works? Really? In 2014?
 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348015
T3 OHing subsystem review and rebalance
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=290346
LP faction weapon store costs rebalancing 
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          BrundleMeth 
          Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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        Posted - 2014.10.25 11:31:11 -
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          Caleb Seremshur wrote:Insta TheKing wrote:  Your first mistake was claiming to PLAY eve. Having 3 accounts just to farm "ICE" and taking ships for a spin doesn't really count as playing. Stop being a carebear and take part in some of the better aspects of eve. Besides, for a game you don't support whatsoever monetarily you sure do QQ a lot.
  Do people really still not understand how PLEX works? Really? In 2014?   Some people just can't be taught... | 
      
      
      
          
          Kat FlyingDuck 
          Perkone Caldari State
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        Posted - 2014.10.25 11:49:31 -
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          you should try ganking highsec bears, i was about to unsub til i discovered the sweet tasting tears | 
      
      
      
          
          admiral root 
          Red Galaxy
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        Posted - 2014.10.25 12:18:14 -
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          OP makes multiple references to "mining ICE". I'm pretty sure Immigration and Customs Enforcement would call that a terrorist event.
 No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff 
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          WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame 
          Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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        Posted - 2014.10.25 12:35:41 -
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          I didn't even read, so just give me your stuff and maybe i'll read your post after that.
 A.K.A Hodor Von Grootenberg 
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          Kalishka Ashkulf 
          BUMP POW
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        Posted - 2014.10.25 18:17:00 -
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          If you're gonna play with ice, you're gonna have a bad time!
  Let's play a game! | 
      
      
      
          
          Brochan McLeod 
          Frigateer
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          Kat FlyingDuck wrote:you should try ganking highsec bears, i was about to unsub til i discovered the sweet tasting tears  
  You mean the ones that were rolling down your face and that made you wanna unsub?
  So what you say is that you continued playing out of spite... even tho you were through with the game?
  Cool!  
 
 
 
 Even the nicest person's patience has a limit! 
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          Brochan McLeod 
          Frigateer
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        Posted - 2014.10.25 18:41:53 -
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          R0mparkin wrote:as someone who recently started eve, i could use the help. i have lost everything in pvp and recruitment scams. i would gladly take anything as i dont have means to pay more then the monthly sub. as far a learning to earn my own stuff. i have. but i have zero assets or money now. i tend to sit in the station asking for help. eve players are so rude that the help they offer me is in the form of bounty. so please donate some to me i am deserving and in need,  
  You can literally fly out that station in your pod... dock into the next empty station and automatically get a free Rookie ship with a gun and a mining tool.
  Do it again and you have a small fleet of fighters/miners instantly.
  With that im pretty sure you can do lvl 1 missions (maybe not all of em though) or just mine ore with the tools and sell it.
  All this ^ ... just in case you really are in trouble and stuck. 
  Good luck out there anyway  
 
 
 
 
 Even the nicest person's patience has a limit! 
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          Karl Jerr 
          Herzack Unit
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          Burn your assets with style; give ISK to Chribba and ask him to setup a Titan burn/bash event opened to frigates, like in old times... | 
      
      
      
          
          Sven Viko VIkolander 
          Friends and Feminists
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        Posted - 2014.10.25 20:44:28 -
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          You know, when you do one and only one thing in a game, it does tend to put you at risk of not playing that game when you either 1) get bored of that single activity you engage in, or 2) are unable or hindered in that activity. So, what do you even expect to learn by posting about this...? Your post has about as much use as an Echelon. | 
      
      
      
          
          Barbara Nichole 
          Cryogenic Consultancy
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          Mr Epeen wrote:People who type ice in caps creep me out. Mr Epeen     bald men creep me out.
 -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á- 
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          Lucrii Dei 
          Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
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          Perhaps you should find something else to do other than mine ice? Mining is one facet on the jewel of EVE (though generally a boring activity). I see all these posts about why people 'don't play any more' and it always seems those players have chosen to either play the game in solitude or pick the most tedious mundane things in the game to occupy themselves with; both will lead to eventual and inevitable boredom.
  Make some new experiences for yourself!
 Gÿå The Explorer I 
Gÿå The Explorer II (Coming Soon!) 
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          daeH ttuB sivaeB 
          United Amarrian Federation Imperial Outlaws.
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          i had a Blast mining, made great $ and with absolutely zero effort.
  i didnt realize i would lose that luxery when i joined fw and pvp'd (died and got lp lol)
  so now my game is just to get LP i guess, which im not sure how to sell with juggling these 2 sites and sending i t to the right market, ect...
 
  i also jus lost majority of my money from listening to someone in my alliance chat. my own fault for listening, i had my safe rout eset but he insisted i check out this '24th imperial crusade' lp store, wentdown 1 level. andhe was gone before i even dockedd. then i goto leave n deaded. i shoulda just kept doin my own thing but now im broke, cant mine like i use to and ppl told eme to get FRIGs to level 5. so now i jus fly around ****** frigates with level 5 upgrades and fling glowsticks at other ships.
  id ask for your money but Really... for what? to continue doing fw's in a possibly better ship?? maybe some good defense ships... but then what?
  i thought eve was amuch more indepth game but im starting to see it for what it truely is. 
  anyone kno of something that Goes somewhere? idk y i would putmore time into this? what am i missing? 
  should i have mined ice and got dual accounts at least and then.....what?
  if you know whats good, please respond. and to the people who mightget angry and fussy, dont bother to respond with anger or cuss words. it only furthers my point of view lol. 
 
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          Max Deveron 
          Deveron Shipyards and Technology
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          daeH ttuB sivaeB wrote:
  /sigh what else do u do? 
  
 
  I do industry....
  But this sounds more like you were not ready for full on PvP or FW.....the best you can do there is find someoen in your group that takes a handle more on training noobs. Join a fleet, get invested into things. The other day a friend of mine....his FW group raided a wormhole and made of with billions of ISK in stolen ships to include a carrier.
  FW has the oppurtunity to get involved more with EvE's rich Lore and ability to RP, its not some twitch game that you can just jump into or you will keep dying constantly. PVP requires dedication and a willingness to learn tactics and strategies, fits, counters.....lots of stuff. and if that sounds like im saying for to you to enroll in Westpoint....well its like that with every thing else in EvE.
  IF FW isnt for you tough....go back to your mining if you wish....i suggest getting into industry and then supplying your current group of friends.
  Or try ganking out.....learn how to gank....so you can know how to avoid being ganked.
  I guess in short dont give up yet....there are plenty of things to do in EvE...you just have to find your niche. And then spend time developing it. Just dont stick with one thing.....mix it up every so often. | 
      
      
      
          
          Luwc 
          Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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          Darwinism in action.
  learn to adapt or die.
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          Francis Inch 
          Kador Defence Initiative
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          daeH ttuB sivaeB wrote:i had a Blast mining, made great $ and with absolutely zero effort.
  i didnt realize i would lose that luxery when i joined fw and pvp'd (died and got lp lol)
  so now my game is just to get LP i guess, which im not sure how to sell with juggling these 2 sites and sending i t to the right market, ect...
 
  i also jus lost majority of my money from listening to someone in my alliance chat. my own fault for listening, i had my safe rout eset but he insisted i check out this '24th imperial crusade' lp store, wentdown 1 level. andhe was gone before i even dockedd. then i goto leave n deaded. i shoulda just kept doin my own thing but now im broke, cant mine like i use to and ppl told eme to get FRIGs to level 5. so now i jus fly around ****** frigates with level 5 upgrades and fling glowsticks at other ships.
  id ask for your money but Really... for what? to continue doing fw's in a possibly better ship?? maybe some good defense ships... but then what?
  i thought eve was amuch more indepth game but im starting to see it for what it truely is. 
  anyone kno of something that Goes somewhere? idk y i would putmore time into this? what am i missing? 
  should i have mined ice and got dual accounts at least and then.....what?
  if you know whats good, please respond. and to the people who mightget angry and fussy, dont bother to respond with anger or cuss words. it only furthers my point of view lol. 
 
  /sigh what else do u do?   
  Let me get this straight.
  You can't mine because fw? Nope, still don't get it. Unless you mean you engaged non war targets and sec status is now too low to mine high sec. If so it's your own fault for not learning the mechanics, but also relatively easy to fix - mine low sec or bring up sec status.
  Then you forgot cardinal rule of eve - don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Sucks, but again your own fault.
  Eve should spoon feed you solutions because you're not bothered to learn to play properly?
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          Mithandra 
          Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
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          Ice mining is fun. Turn up with an orca and a few friends in skiffs. Much hilarity ensues as a miner bumper "definitely not associated" with the local ice miners targets your orca in an attempt to disrupt your operations.
  The isk is shite, but the hilarity makes up for it as well when your orca "accidentally" starts bumping into the other orcas.
 Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community 
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          Amarrian Cougar 
          Veritas Theory Fidelas Constans
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        Posted - 2014.10.27 19:23:13 -
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          Musashi IV wrote:I started playing EVE when it was a year old. I eventually purchased 3 accounts. I am an ice miner...period. All my accounts are dedicated to ice mining. I know it sounds boring but I like to read and mine ICE. I also like to collect ships all types of ships. Ice pays for the ships and my accounts. I used to be able log on anytime and mine ICE. Now Im lucky I can find an ice field. When I do find an ICE field thier are so many ships mining that Im lucky if I can fill one mining ship let alone an Orca before the ice is gone. I dont have to time to wait arround for hours for another ice field to appear. Now all my accounts are closed. I still have billions in my accounts so I could play for years for free. Now I only open an account to see what kind of new ships I can buy and take them for a spin.
  I dont think would be fair to give away my stuff. How would you players learn the meaning of earning your own stuff!!  
 
  If all you want to do is mine ice and read, join a null-sec alliance and mine ice until you are blue in the face.
  Contact: Chris Kring with FCON. They were looking for indy pilots. | 
      
      
      
          
          Jarod Garamonde 
          Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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          Mr Epeen wrote:People who type ice in caps creep me out. Mr Epeen    
  He probably means Internal Combustion Engine. Why you would mine for those, I'm not sure.
 That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
 
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