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Hilen Tukoss Eifyr and Co. Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2014.10.24 17:47:10 - [1] - Quote 73797374656d20696e697469616c697a696e672e2e2e 636865636b73756d20636f6d706c65746521 636f6e736f6c65206f6e6c696e652e2e2e 64656372797074696e672062726f6164636173742e2e2e203235252e2e2e203432252e2e2e203738252e2e2e203931252e2e2e20636f6d706c65746521 416c69676e696e67207265636569766572206e6f64652e2e2e20636f6d706c65746521 636f6d6d656e63696e672062726f6164636173742e2e2e Good evening capsuleers, I hope this message finds you >> 73796e746178206572726f722c207365617263683d226865616c746879222d73796e6f6e796d2e2e2e20726573756c743d2277656c6c22 well. For some time now, I have been unable to speak from my current location. I have, however, remained dedicated to the research we began together in >> 7772697465636f6e666c69637420646174652f63757272656e743d32342f31302f313136207265706c6163652f737472696e673d30392f30372f313133 YC113. Of the team that began research on this project, I am the only one who remains. The story behind the >> 616c7465726e6174657265663d2273657175656e636522 chain of events that have caused this is extremely complex, and in time I will reveal why the situation is as it stands now. In the meantime, I need all the assistance I can garner, as fast as possible. In the coming weeks, a location within >> 30003413/40216465=site one will become apparent where deposits can be made that may push us close to a breakthrough the like of which we have not seen since the >> 73796e746178206572726f722c207365617263683d226d61727269616765222d73796e6f6e796d2e2e2e20726573756c743d226d617472696d6f6e792220 matrimony of the capsule and the clone. When the time comes, I will call for deposits of the following, to be made to site one, in order for me to continue work. GÇó Blood Drop GÇó Bone Splinter GÇó Cortex Slice GÇó Cerebral Slice GÇó Epidermis Sliver GÇó Liver Bile Your assistance in this matter would be very much appreciated. I will be in touch in the coming weeks to give further details. - Hilen Tukoss 7061636b6574206c6f7373202d20302e30313525 636f6d6d656e63696e67204243412073687574646f776e2e2e2e20636f6d706c65746521 73797374656d2073687574646f776e20696e69746961746564 >> 7472616e736d697373696f6e207465726d696e6174656421
Anslo Scope Works 19607	Posted - 2014.10.24 17:59:20 - [2] - Quote Hell. It's about time. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour 626	Posted - 2014.10.24 18:04:24 - [3] - Quote I see. Well, hello again, Dr. Tukoss. I hope you brought your cat-herding stick.
Mizhara Del'thul Sarz'namarr 3	Posted - 2014.10.24 18:07:22 - [4] - Quote Let me know if you need another lowsec freighter escort, Tukoss. Sarz'namarr is ever so eager to assist.
Kale Silence Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking 66	Posted - 2014.10.24 18:15:23 - [5] - Quote Hilen Tukoss wrote: When the time comes, I will call for deposits of the following, to be made to site one, in order for me to continue work. GÇó Blood Drop GÇó Bone Splinter GÇó Cortex Slice GÇó Cerebral Slice GÇó Epidermis Sliver GÇó Liver Bile Your assistance in this matter would be very much appreciated. I will be in touch in the coming weeks to give further details. - Hilen Tukoss 7061636b6574206c6f7373202d20302e30313525 636f6d6d656e63696e67204243412073687574646f776e2e2e2e20636f6d706c65746521 73797374656d2073687574646f776e20696e69746961746564 >> 7472616e736d697373696f6e207465726d696e6174656421 2 things, why the **** with all the numbers??? And why do you need body parts? "Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care." - Anonymous
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour 628	Posted - 2014.10.24 18:24:57 - [6] - Quote Kale Silence wrote: 2 things, why the ** with all the numbers??? And why do you need body parts? the body parts are Jovian body parts, from that Jovian who exploded a few years ago, in a teleporter incident. Hmmmmm, teleporters. As for the numbers, most are communication equipment check messages, translated they are: Quote:** system initializing...checksum complete! console online...decrypting broadcast... 25%... 42%... 78%... 91%... complete! Aligning receiver node... complete! commencing broadcast... syntax error, search="healthy"-synonym... result="well" writeconflict date/current=24/10/116 replace/string=09/07/113 alternateref="sequence" Eram/40216465 ? syntax error, search="marriage"-synonym... result="matrimony" packet loss - 0.015% commencing BCA shutdown... complete! system shutdown initiated transmission terminated! Either that, or it's a god damn AI using Hilen Tukoss's profile.
Anslo Scope Works 19609	Posted - 2014.10.24 18:27:49 - [7] - Quote Eram? So what he's in Eram? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour 628	Posted - 2014.10.24 18:29:14 - [8] - Quote Anslo wrote: Eram? So what he's in Eram? Site One, or Antiquus as it's called, is in Eram, it may be important. The 40216465 ? is because I'm not sure what that number refers to.
Anslo Scope Works 19609	Posted - 2014.10.24 18:29:59 - [9] - Quote Oh right...it's been a while. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6377	Posted - 2014.10.24 18:40:10 - [10] - Quote Greetings, Tukoss-haan. Welcome back. For those who are wondering, the italicized text is a form of old data encoding known as-- uh, had to check, 'hexidecimal.' It's archaic, a sort of academic curiosity from old databases. And those items? Those are the remnants of the Jove ambassador who attempted-- and failed --to teleport himself in YC107. Maker. Is Tukoss trying to clone a Jove? Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
Esna Pitoojee Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage 449	Posted - 2014.10.24 18:44:25 - [11] - Quote The encoded portions are a simple hexadecimal code, which translate to the following: First segment: system initializing...checksum complete!console online...decrypting broadcast... 25%... 42%... 78%... 91%... complete!Aligning receiver node... complete!commencing broadcast... Second segment: syntax error, search="healthy"-synonym... result="well" Third segment: writeconflict date/current=24/10/116 replace/string=09/07/113 Forth segment: alternateref="sequence" Fifth segment is problematic. "30003413" is a CONCORD-standard system tag for Eram, where Site One is deployed. The second tag does not appear in the standard index, and may refer to a system within "wormhole space". Sixth segment: syntax error, search="marriage"-synonym... result="matrimony" Seventh segment: packet loss - 0.015%commencing BCA shutdown... complete!system shutdown initiated Eighth segment: transmission terminated! The likelihood is that we are just seeing a somewhat malfunctioning translation unit; code such as this would typically be processed and removed before a message is transmitted. Mr. Tukoss, the Ethics Committee has gone quiet since your disappearance, but the channel remains ready to be utilized should the project resume.
Liam Antolliere University of Caille Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2014.10.24 19:18:45 - [12] - Quote Hm, I have only read reports on the work of this individual and group. If someone with more in depth information would be willing, I would appreciate a conversation. "Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
Ayni Naskingar Axolotl Armageddon 0	Posted - 2014.10.24 19:29:12 - [13] - Quote Quote: The 40216465 ? is because I'm not sure what that number refers to. I found this Website https://code.google.com/p/eve-explorer/source/browse/src/evestarexplorer/data/starobjects.txt You can find the 40216465 in there as the star ID of Eram (the sun).
Literia Death By Design Did he say Jump 8	Posted - 2014.10.24 20:05:04 - [14] - Quote Its good to see you again Dr. Tukoss.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1004	Posted - 2014.10.24 20:07:38 - [15] - Quote Greetings Dr Tukoss, it is good to see you back in capsuleer life. I heard many things from you & the Arek'Jaalan project you w re part of. Aurora Project expands the Arcology The result of the YC116 Sleeper data research race: Tech 3 Destroyers!
John Revenent Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 303	Posted - 2014.10.24 20:09:05 - [16] - Quote Tukoss-haan.. there is a name I had hoped never to see again. "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
DutchGunner Viperfleet Inc. Disavowed. 103	Posted - 2014.10.24 20:09:48 - [17] - Quote Mr. Tukoss, It is good to hear from you again even though your message contains troublesome news. I will once again assist you in as many ways as I can. Regards, DutchGunner CONCORD Loyalist
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 1412	Posted - 2014.10.24 20:20:03 - [18] - Quote Ayni Naskingar wrote: You can find the 40216465 in there as the star ID of Eram (the sun). That would explain the auto-correction, then; Site One lies just over nine million kilometers from Eram's star, making it the closest "celestial" (according to capsule overview settings definitions) to the star. It is good to hear from you again, Hilen, though I am somewhat confused - and a little worried - by your message. I will see what I can do to help, and I doubt I will be alone - many of us still remain and have been keeping an ear out for any sign of you since you ceased communication some years ago. You know how to reach me if you need something of me personally. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Owner, The Golden Masque
Gehen Sealbreaker Sealbreaker Labs 6	Posted - 2014.10.24 20:31:55 - [19] - Quote It's good to receive word of you, esteemed colleague. Your reappearance is perfectly timed, as Arek'Jalaan was thinking about remodeling itself, and most researchers were a bit restless in your absence. I will try to provide some of the parts you required. If another transmission opportunity arises, could you elaborate a bit more on the use they will be put to?
Lucas Raholan Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 126	Posted - 2014.10.24 20:55:52 - [20] - Quote It seems I'm late to the party, having not been a capsuleer when the initial project was run though I ready to provide assistance when I can. I'm rather curious though to why you would want body parts from I believe that Jovian that had a accident years back, I'm not even sure they still exist. `I'm secretly a unicorn that Sh**ts fairy dust and sings all day-á`
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6377	Posted - 2014.10.24 21:15:01 - [21] - Quote The parts are difficult to find, but still do exist. I'm just hoping that Tukoss-haan doesn't need many of them. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
Sohl Ni-Zha Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative 18	Posted - 2014.10.24 21:45:33 - [22] - Quote So you math people haven't found secret 'Sleepers are remote repping' message in Dear Doctor's hexa... somthing? And he asks for body parts? Of a long exploded Jove? I say good times ahead. Welcome back to living people, if you are 'living' and 'people', Doctor! delivering. drugs. -áIG channel: Narcotics
Seismic Stan Freebooted Junkworks 528	Posted - 2014.10.24 22:40:59 - [23] - Quote Bah! NOW you come crawling out from under your asteroid, Tukoss? I've had a lot of good friends (well, some people I got drunk with) come to sticky ends (or rehab, or Sansha zombification, or occasional mild headaches) because of your ridiculous cause, leading to failed business interests and significant loss of ISK and time on my part. I expect compensation. Any self-respecting capsuleer will stay well away from any lunacy this old has-been is spouting. EVE Online: The Text Adventure --- GameSkinny Correspondent --- Freebooted Blogger
Muck Raker Gutter Press 564	Posted - 2014.10.24 22:54:28 - [24] - Quote Gutter Press Media Corporation submits a request for an interview when it is convenient, to compare with previous interviews with Dr. Tukoss. Rumours, Wars, Rumours of Wars, Wars of Rumours!
Jaret Victorian School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 12	Posted - 2014.10.24 23:30:54 - [25] - Quote It seems that I have missed the start of this project. I am eager to provide assistance, however.
Malcolm Faust Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2014.10.25 00:49:19 - [26] - Quote First, welcome back! Second, this dude drops in and wants corpsy bits, and we're...I'm actually fine with that. Where the hell are we gonna find this -dudes- ?bits?
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 1348	Posted - 2014.10.25 02:20:25 - [27] - Quote Valerie Valate wrote: Either that, or it's a god damn AI using Hilen Tukoss's profile. Somehow I think that the hnolku has died, and something like a rogue drone is trying to speak with us. Or maybe he himself made a program of himself and became AI. Anyway, never trust traitors and artificial intelligence. And if you have both traitor and artificial intelligence... you know, right?
Mizhara Del'thul Sarz'namarr 3	Posted - 2014.10.25 02:37:01 - [28] - Quote So, who's got ISK on Tukoss currently doing the backup singing in Kuvakei and the Sanshettes band, and who's putting it on a whole new kind of Sleeper Meld kind of crazy? Either way, let me know when someone finally gets around to applying liberal amounts of violence. I'll bring some autocannons and foam fingers.
Joe Themachine Blake Industries Divum Liberi 43	Posted - 2014.10.25 02:39:56 - [29] - Quote This may mean that we will have to expedite the process of setting up the new Arek'Jaalan structure. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5148708#post5148708 Real or not, Arek'jaalan must be organized and ready to face this new opportunity, or threat. Please ensure that you engage in the ongoing symposium - our time is limited.
Eran Mintor Esoteric Philosophy Imperial Outlaws. 662	Posted - 2014.10.25 03:29:33 - [30] - Quote Fascinating... And Body parts too, this gets better and better... -Eran
Elmund Egivand Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 129	Posted - 2014.10.25 03:53:27 - [31] - Quote Makoto Priano wrote: The parts are difficult to find, but still do exist. I'm just hoping that Tukoss-haan doesn't need many of them. How do you suppose we are going to track these body parts?
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6379	Posted - 2014.10.25 04:05:59 - [32] - Quote Mr. Egivand; by track, do you mean acquire? Contracts. Market inquiries. Negotiations with collectors or older capsuleers. These sorts of things are regarded as curiosities by some capsuleers with more money than sense, and so they acquire them as a matter of course. I'd actually debated trying to acquire a set for purposes of testing some theories involving a certain class of Sleeper facility in higher-grade wormholes, but never got around to acting on the idea. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
Siobhan MacLeary BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno 179	Posted - 2014.10.25 04:06:58 - [33] - Quote At most, I hope all he needs is one. I'd hate for us to need to track down each and every instance of these items. That said - Dr. Tukoss, welcome back, in whatever form you wear. GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
Daniel L'Siata Van Diemen's Demise Pandemic Legion 238	Posted - 2014.10.25 08:08:57 - [34] - Quote This should be good.
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6383	Posted - 2014.10.25 19:07:53 - [35] - Quote Tukoss-haan, you have mail. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
Eran Mintor Esoteric Philosophy Imperial Outlaws. 662	Posted - 2014.10.26 08:33:05 - [36] - Quote It is curious timing.... And very vague... Something doesn't seem right. -Eran
Unit XS365BT Unit Commune 160	Posted - 2014.10.26 10:43:58 - [37] - Quote Mera? Unit XS365BT. Designated Communications Officer. Unit Commune.
Anslo Scope Works 19787	Posted - 2014.10.26 12:44:41 - [38] - Quote Unit XS365BT wrote: Mera? By the Ten, hello there Yuni. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Unit XS365BT Unit Commune 161	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:15:15 - [39] - Quote Greetings pilot Anslo. It is our hope that all has been well. We Return. Unit XS365BT. Designated Communications Officer. Unit Commune.
Anslo Scope Works 19789	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:24:36 - [40] - Quote Been better. You? Where've you been! [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Unit XS365BT Unit Commune 161	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:33:46 - [41] - Quote Available data indicated that a temporary cessation of Unit activity within the cluster was required. Further data classified. Unit XS365BT. Designated Communications Officer. Unit Commune.
Anslo Scope Works 19789	Posted - 2014.10.26 15:39:48 - [42] - Quote Is that Yuni speak for I'm back now and we should meet up? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Reinheart Novan Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 7	Posted - 2014.10.26 21:19:38 - [43] - Quote Curious that the Sisters of Eve detect a change in the behaviour of sleepers and then a short time later Mr Tukoss resurfaces from the Lord knows where. Curious indeed.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1012	Posted - 2014.10.26 22:56:20 - [44] - Quote Curious where it'll all lead to.... Explode a Nyx for the Kids! The result of the YC116 Sleeper data research race: Tech 3 Destroyers!
Mizhara Del'thul Sarz'namarr 6	Posted - 2014.10.26 23:32:22 - [45] - Quote Violence, recrimination and drama. Fun times. Just let me know when it's time to blow him out of the sky. I'll be there with bells on.
Gehen Sealbreaker Sealbreaker Labs 6	Posted - 2014.10.27 06:49:51 - [46] - Quote Unit XS365BT wrote: It is our hope that all has been well. We Return. Well, hello there. It has been a while since I heard about the Unite Commune, I wondered where you all went. While I'm interested to see where all this will go, I am, like Mr Novan, doubtful that all these events are unlinked.
The Antiquarian Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1874	Posted - 2014.10.27 14:13:08 - [47] - Quote The items requested have already been inventorized years ago at the Arek'Jaalan Acquisition (minus the elusive "Cortex Slice). They will be provided to you per your request once you are ready.
Norman Vales Xim-Retni 0	Posted - 2014.10.27 14:58:13 - [48] - Quote Additional simulations have been going for quite some time on Projet Theta. I'll make the time to review the data.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1016	Posted - 2014.10.27 17:55:23 - [49] - Quote The Antiquarian wrote: The items requested have already been inventorized years ago at the Arek'Jaalan Acquisition. They will be provided to you per your request once you are ready. It's great to see your involvement in this as you hold an impressive collection of rare & valuable artifacts, a collection that only few can rival. Explode a Nyx for the Kids! The result of the YC116 Sleeper data research race: Tech 3 Destroyers!
Mark726 Project Compass Holdings 111	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:31:24 - [50] - Quote I am delighted to see your return, Dr. Tukoss, though your message admittedly has me quite worried. I stand by to assist you in any way I can. I am also quite heartened to see how many have returned to further Dr. Tukoss's mission. Author, EVE Travel Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
Jason Irmitrij Atlantis Republic Citizens 4	Posted - 2014.10.29 00:49:47 - [51] - Quote OK, this is interesting. Dr. Tukoss, are you interested in help from bioengineer? I was lately experimenting with limits of clonning technology, and I also work in biotech research field (amongst some others, like space / time research, engineering and anomalies analysis, with artifacts research)... If you need help regarding field(s) above, I am avaiable to participate... Cheers.
Vincent Pryce Utopian Research I.E.L. 176	Posted - 2014.10.29 00:58:14 - [52] - Quote Hello, Hilen. You will of course have my assistance, if that is really you. Vincent Pryce Archangel of Asakai
Aelisha Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 412	Posted - 2014.10.29 12:34:08 - [53] - Quote Am I the only one, or does providing rare examples of a genetically enhanced race to someone who insists on posting in hexadecimal and talk in a tone usually reserved for bad novella villains seem like a truly terrible idea. By all means, I'm sure A'J was populated only by the most reliable and vaunted of individuals; whose judgement is in all matters beyond reproach, so do go ahead if you have such items and want to put the theory of natural selection through blind trust to the test. But for people who'd trust each other about as far as you could throw a neutron star, you sure are giving our long lost friend here the red carpet treatment. If the price of undying loyalty against all evidence of such being a terrible idea is a splodge of text on a frequently attacked edifice, hit me up. I'm not a bad writer and I could do with an environment of third-party blind trust in my daily life. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: Adaptable Industry for an Unpredictable Cluster Intaki Reborn. Independent Capsuleer.
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6403	Posted - 2014.10.29 15:45:56 - [54] - Quote Mr. Pryce; some quick thoughts on identity. In the first place, Tukoss-haan's former employer was known for being on the bleeding edge of consciousness digitization. Their founder was evidently one of the first to undergo the process, even. What's more, we live in a world where memory engrams and skills can be imprinted on a mind by technical means; where consciousness can be scanned, backed up, or transmitted nearly-instantaneously to a fresh body, whose mind is a blank slate onto which a consciousness can be imprinted. Clearly, 'mind' and 'body' are still linked-- but mostly due to the usual presumption that a biological brain is required for consciousness to exist. Clearly, this is a product of bias, not fact. Now, a question for purpose of mental exercise. Let us say that a person suffers a blow to the head, and loses a portion of their memory, or their personality changes. While we will frequently say that they've changed, that they're a different person from their old self, we do not say that it is not the same person, excepting metaphorically. Similarly, let us say a mind-state transfer on clone activation goes awry, and the person loses a portion of their memory, etc.; we still consider it the same person, just, well, different. Why not apply this to a digitized consciousness? What I suppose I'm saying is this: calling whatever is posting as Tukoss not Tukoss is, well, a little bit old-fashioned, provided that we're assuming that the security on the Summit is such that it can verify that the infomorph posting as Hilen Tukoss is indeed Hilen Tukoss, or a close enough simulacrum as to pass the security checks. And ultimately, what's the harm in handing little pieces of Jove to him? I know this is a trope from terrible horror holos, but what's the worse that could happen? An improperly-digitized consciousness is imprinted onto a Jove body? And...? Biomass is cheap. The DNA isn't a superweapon. At worst case, he shows us how to use weird little facilities on wormhole space that we hadn't figured out before, or-- what? Of course, this doesn't change that Tukoss abandoned an Ishukone subsidiary, and coerced capsuleers into firing on Ishukone ships during his flight to the Republic. Now, that is another thing entirely. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
Gaia Ma'chello V.I.C.E. 109	Posted - 2014.10.29 16:16:04 - [55] - Quote Aelisha wrote: Am I the only one, or does providing rare examples of a genetically enhanced race to someone who insists on posting in hexadecimal and talking in a tone usually reserved for bad novella villains seem like a truly terrible idea? No, you are not. Most of us are quite worried about just what is really going on, and I fully expect Acquisitions to keep the samples secure until we figure this out. AJ is all about expanding scientific knowledge. Giving a villain the means to take over the Eve cluster will not advance science.
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 1430	Posted - 2014.10.29 16:58:10 - [56] - Quote Gaia Ma'chello wrote: Aelisha wrote: Am I the only one, or does providing rare examples of a genetically enhanced race to someone who insists on posting in hexadecimal and talking in a tone usually reserved for bad novella villains seem like a truly terrible idea? No, you are not. Most of us are quite worried about just what is really going on, and I fully expect Acquisitions to keep the samples secure until we figure this out. AJ is all about expanding scientific knowledge. Giving a villain the means to take over the Eve cluster will not advance science. As I understand it, the current stance from Acquisition is that nothing is going to be handed over until a satisfactory explanation has been given and verified. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Owner, The Golden Masque
Anslo Scope Works 19917	Posted - 2014.10.29 18:15:07 - [57] - Quote So, everyone thinks this is a fake Hilen why again? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6403	Posted - 2014.10.29 18:20:30 - [58] - Quote Not everyone. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
Anslo Scope Works 19917	Posted - 2014.10.29 18:24:16 - [59] - Quote Makoto Priano wrote: Not everyone. So not everyone is a paranoid nutter? Well thank the Ten I guess. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Mizhara Del'thul Sarz'namarr 13	Posted - 2014.10.29 18:25:47 - [60] - Quote Doubt he's fake. The comms IDs check out. What he's become since the last time around is another question entirely.
Anslo Scope Works 19917	Posted - 2014.10.29 18:27:40 - [61] - Quote OK so is this just going to end up being an endless parade of questions and paranoia? First he's fake. Then he may not be something good. What's next? He's the perfect Sansha/Sleeper secret spy so better to ignore him? No offense but it just seems like this will go nowhere, ever. A healthy dose of paranoia is one thing. But I'm starting to get a feeling that this bullshit is gonna end up obstructed due to an over abundance of caution. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Mizhara Del'thul Sarz'namarr 13	Posted - 2014.10.29 18:54:03 - [62] - Quote Don't look at me, I'm not involved in this after the initial mistake of escorting his sorry ass.
Aelisha Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 413	Posted - 2014.10.29 20:29:47 - [63] - Quote Morwen Lagann wrote: As I understand it, the current stance from Acquisition is that nothing is going to be handed over until a satisfactory explanation has been given and verified. Satisfactory to who though? the property may be yours (or more correctly The Antiquarians) to do with as you wish, but the consequences are not yours to bear alone. To address the ancillary commentary knocking about along this line of conversation: I highly doubt this is something so dramatic as 'the end of the cluster as we know it', but even a mere theft or con to obtain some exceptionally rare items would be a source of embarrassment and regret for those involved. This community has fallen far indeed if common caution is 'paranoia'. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: Adaptable Industry for an Unpredictable Cluster Intaki Reborn. Independent Capsuleer.
Anslo Scope Works 19917	Posted - 2014.10.29 20:33:26 - [64] - Quote And you're clearly off your rocker when all the evidence points to this not being some gods damn thief. Here, let's try this. People are crying thief or fake, fraud, etc. Where's your evidence for this? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Aelisha Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 413	Posted - 2014.10.29 20:36:14 - [65] - Quote There is insufficient evidence either way, in which case caution is the sensible option. Though last time he spoke, Tukoss didn't have hexadecimal interlaced with his comms with running commentry such as 'equivalent term' and referential material. Broken translator? Possible. Not too bright thief with a vocoder and bad translator set up? Also possible. I'd ask you for your evidence that he is genuine, but your reputation precedes you. I'd welcome a surprise though. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: Adaptable Industry for an Unpredictable Cluster Intaki Reborn. Independent Capsuleer.
Mizhara Del'thul Sarz'namarr 14	Posted - 2014.10.29 20:37:05 - [66] - Quote These are incredibly rare and expensive artifacts of the past. Just handing them over without questioning the rather curious aspects of Tukoss' disappearance, reappearance, comms issues and other anomalies would be wildly irresponsible and dangerously naive to say the least. I know I wouldn't part with such collectibles on his word alone, that's for damn sure.
Aelisha Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 413	Posted - 2014.10.29 20:40:00 - [67] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: These are incredibly rare and expensive artifacts of the past. Just handing them over without questioning the rather curious aspects of Tukoss' disappearance, reappearance, comms issues and other anomalies would be wildly irresponsible and dangerously naive to say the least. I know I wouldn't part with such collectibles on his word alone, that's for damn sure. And here we have someone who gets it. Thank you Ms Del'thul and Ms Ma'Chello for illustrating that caution need not be based on some apocryphal nonsense, but instead the practicalities of preserving possession, heritage and rarities. Ofcourse, these are priate possessions and their owners are capsuleers, so they can do as they wish, but I'd hope the counsel of their peers would mean at least a little in how they choose to act. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: Adaptable Industry for an Unpredictable Cluster Intaki Reborn. Independent Capsuleer.
Anslo Scope Works 19917	Posted - 2014.10.29 20:40:33 - [68] - Quote Before I even bother to explain a damn thing, just what the hell do you mean by my reputation? Because if I'm about to walk into an argument against someone who has a biased opinion of me, I'm not even gonna try anymore. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Aelisha Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 413	Posted - 2014.10.29 20:44:10 - [69] - Quote Anslo wrote: Before I even bother to explain a damn thing, just what the hell do you mean by my reputation? Because if I'm about to walk into an argument against someone who has a biased opinion of me, I'm not even gonna try anymore. You have a reputation as an anarchic and somewhat unstable element in terms of action and opinion. Desirable traits in a killer and mercenary; not so much in an analysis of behaviour and the potential consequences of misplaced trust. i appreciate you're very capable at the work you do in space, but i will admit to not placing you highly on a list of consultants on an issue such as this. However, if you have hard facts to bring to the table, I may have judged you poorly, and will ofcourse extend the appropriate apology. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: Adaptable Industry for an Unpredictable Cluster Intaki Reborn. Independent Capsuleer.
Anslo Scope Works 19917	Posted - 2014.10.29 20:47:29 - [70] - Quote Well, let's think for a second. When was the last time you remember anyone or anything being able to hack into the databases hosting personnel information, such as Hilen here, and being able to fake employment history, name, face, etc, etc? Cause I sure as ** don't remember that ever happening. And if it IS possible, why the flying would a thief waste time on getting some body parts using a doctor's identity from a project dead for three *** YEARS? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]**
Aelisha Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group 413	Posted - 2014.10.29 20:50:17 - [71] - Quote You're really too agitated by such a peripheral issue. You should calm down. Furthermore, those are not facts, they are as much supposition as my own statements. Thank you for your input, however, your point of view might not be one I personally hold to, and is posed rather aggressively, but it is certainly a potential. If this is truly the legitimate return of Hilen Tukoss, I am sure that some will be elated and others (notably the State) will be rather less so. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: Adaptable Industry for an Unpredictable Cluster Intaki Reborn. Independent Capsuleer.
Anslo Scope Works 19917	Posted - 2014.10.29 20:54:02 - [72] - Quote Well, the guys in hiding so there really isn't a sure fire way to go and get a DNA sample to satisfy the skeptics. I don't see what's the worst that could happen here. OK, so some evil sleeper agent gets a Jove body in Eram. Oh darn, what do we do? Kill him. It's not like he can get anywhere without a ship. Pretty sure the body parts existing in the first place speak to that. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Norman Vales Xim-Retni 1	Posted - 2014.10.29 21:20:11 - [73] - Quote From what I can tell, the hexadecimal lines read like console messages. Why they're there is anyone's guess. Either way, I'm more interested in keeping Project Theta on track than tracking various squabbles. Further on the Project Theta note, I've reviewed the accumulated simulation data, and would like to inform the interested parties that the results have been published.
Vincent Pryce Utopian Research I.E.L. 178	Posted - 2014.10.30 00:41:56 - [74] - Quote Makoto Priano wrote: Mr. Pryce; some quick thoughts on identity. In the first place, Tukoss-haan's former employer was known for being on the bleeding edge of consciousness digitization. Their founder was evidently one of the first to undergo the process, even. What's more, we live in a world where memory engrams and skills can be imprinted on a mind by technical means; where consciousness can be scanned, backed up, or transmitted nearly-instantaneously to a fresh body, whose mind is a blank slate onto which a consciousness can be imprinted. Clearly, 'mind' and 'body' are still linked-- but mostly due to the usual presumption that a biological brain is required for consciousness to exist. Clearly, this is a product of bias, not fact. Now, a question for purpose of mental exercise. Let us say that a person suffers a blow to the head, and loses a portion of their memory, or their personality changes. While we will frequently say that they've changed, that they're a different person from their old self, we do not say that it is not the same person, excepting metaphorically. Similarly, let us say a mind-state transfer on clone activation goes awry, and the person loses a portion of their memory, etc.; we still consider it the same person, just, well, different. Why not apply this to a digitized consciousness? What I suppose I'm saying is this: calling whatever is posting as Tukoss not Tukoss is, well, a little bit old-fashioned, provided that we're assuming that the security on the Summit is such that it can verify that the infomorph posting as Hilen Tukoss is indeed Hilen Tukoss, or a close enough simulacrum as to pass the security checks. And ultimately, what's the harm in handing little pieces of Jove to him? I know this is a trope from terrible horror holos, but what's the worse that could happen? An improperly-digitized consciousness is imprinted onto a Jove body? And...? Biomass is cheap. The DNA isn't a superweapon. At worst case, he shows us how to use weird little facilities on wormhole space that we hadn't figured out before, or-- what? Of course, this doesn't change that Tukoss abandoned an Ishukone subsidiary, and coerced capsuleers into firing on Ishukone ships during his flight to the Republic. Now, that is another thing entirely. Giving someone the benefit of the doubt in this wonderful 'verse of ours is what gets you betrayed and at worst into an early grave, Priano. I'd imagine a capsuleer of your experience surely would know that by now, if not, I envy the idealistic naivete you still retain. More so goes with people who mysteriously disappear without a trace and then suddenly at the eve of new events arrives back to the scene posting in a manner uncharacteristic of them with radically different syntax and using hexadecimal code. That, my dear, is all the evidence I need to keep my guard up until I've been given reason to the contrary. I'm an old fashioned Angel, a gentleman's pirate. A healthy dose of paranoia is part of the decorum. As for your questions and theoretical conundrums... I have no desire to get into a discussion about transhumanistic ideas, not in this vitriolic venue anyway. If you wish to continue this discussion further, you can reach me via the neocom system. Vincent Pryce Archangel of Asakai
Malcolm Faust Soldiers of Cthulhu 10	Posted - 2014.10.30 03:24:22 - [75] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: These are incredibly rare and expensive artifacts of the past. Just handing them over without questioning the rather curious aspects of Tukoss' disappearance, reappearance, comms issues and other anomalies would be wildly irresponsible and dangerously naive to say the least. I know I wouldn't part with such collectibles on his word alone, that's for damn sure. Nailed it. I do support the dangerously na+»ve part though
Ollie Rundle 190	Posted - 2014.10.30 08:41:10 - [76] - Quote In its previous iteration, any requests made of the Arek'Jalaan Acquisitions department usually required a research proposal to accompany them in order for the project's contributors to judge whether release of valuable resources was justified. This protocol applied to everyone involved with the project, Tukoss included. I am yet to see an explanation or proposal for how Tukoss intends to use the items he has recently requested and note that said items are perhaps the most unique of any item requested for any purpose by Arek'Jalaan since it was founded. While such a decision ultimately rests with the leads of the Acquisitions and Security departments I would humbly suggest that it seems reasonable to withhold said items until Tukoss can present some explanation for why such difficult to obtain and rare objects are required. -á
Gehen Sealbreaker Sealbreaker Labs 16	Posted - 2014.10.30 12:48:11 - [77] - Quote Ollie Rundle wrote: In its previous iteration, any requests made of the Arek'Jalaan Acquisitions department usually required a research proposal to accompany them in order for the project's contributors to judge whether release of valuable resources was justified. This protocol applied to everyone involved with the project, Tukoss included. I am yet to see an explanation or proposal for how Tukoss intends to use the items he has recently requested and note that said items are perhaps the most unique of any item requested for any purpose by Arek'Jalaan since it was founded. This. Even if there were absolutely no doubts about Dr. Tukoss' sudden reappearance and identity, this is the major obstacle for such a request. I would like to remind everyone here that at the same time, an official Symposium is currently held to determine how the newly resurrected Arek'Jalaan should be organized. I would like to invite all the former prominent members of Arek'Jalaan who have not yet participated to look at the proposals, question them, or even offer another one. The symposium first phase will end very soon now. If my proposal was to be selected (with or without a few amendments), greenlighting (or not) Dr. Tukoss's project would, given the incredible resources asked, undoubtedly be a task for the Division Leaders Council.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5605	Posted - 2014.11.02 06:47:21 - [78] - Quote I get the impression that someone needs a body. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jaret Victorian Crystalis Foundation 17	Posted - 2014.11.02 12:41:04 - [79] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: I get the impression that someone needs a body. Holy mother of missiles... All these body parts! That's a crazy theory, but you might actually be right.
Tiber Brucato The Scope Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2014.11.02 21:45:42 - [80] - Quote No fair. The last time I needed a body part I had to go ask a wizard. Got some nice shoes out of it though.
Rhavas Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 319	Posted - 2014.11.03 03:51:32 - [81] - Quote It's been a long time Hilen. I am pleased to see you are still alive. My submissions are still in secure storage in the Site One archives. Eifyr has made no progress in the interim despite three years of "work". If they can't, or won't, do it, we need to find analysts who can produce results from elsewhere. The time for theory is past. CONCORD has its eye on wormholes at last, and you know how that will turn out. The next evolution is coming. Hurry back. Author of Interstellar Privateer Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
Edvar Maulerant University of Caille Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2014.11.04 03:35:22 - [82] - Quote My Master has requested I relay this message: "It is obvious that Mr. Tukoss has gained access to a communications medium that he is not authorized to access. The messages being sent are text based; the coding is most likely machine code from the terminal he is accessing, untranslated. This is similar to coding used by certain operatives accessing clone implants in order to bypass CONCORD/Empire communication restrictions. It could also suggest a location outside of normal communications networks, such as within a Sleeper star system. The items that Mr. Tukoss requests are interesting. It is believed by some researchers that the Sleepers are ancestors of the Jove. Seeking the only known (and widely accessible) sources of Jove DNA suggests an attempt to understand how Sleeper technology interacts with Jove physiology. The potential applications for this are fascinating. Given the Mirror sites located in Sleeper territory and their information regarding neural degeneration, it is likely Mr. Tukoss is seeking to gain access to their network in a more direct manner. Bluntly, using a cloned Jove body to interact with the Sleeper network. It is likely that this will fail without substantial infomorph modification. Likely results of misuse of this technology are... unpleasant at best, and a threat to the Cluster at worst. I cannot fault the potential gains, however. It is what I would do if I had the opportunity and resources." -Lord Amann Karris
Ollie Rundle 196	Posted - 2014.11.04 13:30:24 - [83] - Quote Edvar Maulerant wrote: The items that Mr. Tukoss requests are interesting. It is believed by some researchers that the Sleepers are ancestors of the Jove. Seeking the only known (and widely accessible) sources of Jove DNA suggests an attempt to understand how Sleeper technology interacts with Jove physiology. The potential applications for this are fascinating. Given the Mirror sites located in Sleeper territory and their information regarding neural degeneration, it is likely Mr. Tukoss is seeking to gain access to their network in a more direct manner. Bluntly, using a cloned Jove body to interact with the Sleeper network. It is likely that this will fail without substantial infomorph modification. Interesting. See also: Project Trinity - original article Presentation at Third Seyllin Conference YC 114
Owen Levanth Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration 334	Posted - 2014.11.06 19:40:01 - [84] - Quote Now this is interesting. Sadly I have no interest in procuring body parts and no idea how to procure them even if I wanted to, so I will continue to observe this development from the outside.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 8313	Posted - 2014.11.07 01:00:54 - [85] - Quote It appears my wish to collect one of each part will never come to fruition now ... I am massively curious as to what this entails; anything to do with the Jovians interests me immensely. If you would benefit at all from the donation of a few 'Complex Fullerene Shard' s, I would be happy to help out (after all, they were also found in hangars after Misu Baniya's accident). If at all possible, I would like to assist in the ongoing research; I can't help but wonder why Jovian biomass may be needed for something. The speculations of their connection to the Sleepers (not the drones, the bodies) are very interesting. And through the research my corporation has participated in I have gained knowledge of many things, but only have more questions than ever. (OOC- something to do with the Jovians? Wow! I expect great things If you are going to create a Jovian clone, then this is going to be a big event!) A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 1399	Posted - 2014.11.07 04:08:01 - [86] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: It appears my wish to collect one of each part will never come to fruition now ... I am massively curious as to what this entails; anything to do with the Jovians interests me immensely. If you would benefit at all from the donation of a few 'Complex Fullerene Shard' s, I would be happy to help out (after all, they were also found in hangars after Misu Baniya's accident). If at all possible, I would like to assist in the ongoing research; I can't help but wonder why Jovian biomass may be needed for something. The speculations of their connection to the Sleepers (not the drones, the bodies) are very interesting. And through the research my corporation has participated in I have gained knowledge of many things, but only have more questions than ever. (OOC- something to do with the Jovians? Wow! I expect great things If you are going to create a Jovian clone, then this is going to be a big event!) As far as I understand, the biomaterials under question should be of Jovian origin, and are rather hard to obtain. As I know, Dr. Tukoss doesn't accept just regular frozen corpses. Taking into account your corporation, alliance and the nature of the materials under discussion, I believe you made a mistake appearing here, as someone could already wait for you behind the door with a prepared knife for material... extraction.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 8337	Posted - 2014.11.07 04:36:20 - [87] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: It appears my wish to collect one of each part will never come to fruition now ... I am massively curious as to what this entails; anything to do with the Jovians interests me immensely. If you would benefit at all from the donation of a few 'Complex Fullerene Shard' s, I would be happy to help out (after all, they were also found in hangars after Misu Baniya's accident). If at all possible, I would like to assist in the ongoing research; I can't help but wonder why Jovian biomass may be needed for something. The speculations of their connection to the Sleepers (not the drones, the bodies) are very interesting. And through the research my corporation has participated in I have gained knowledge of many things, but only have more questions than ever. (OOC- something to do with the Jovians? Wow! I expect great things If you are going to create a Jovian clone, then this is going to be a big event!) As far as I understand, the biomaterials under question should be of Jovian origin, and are rather hard to obtain. As I know, Dr. Tukoss doesn't accept just regular frozen corpses. Taking into account your corporation, alliance and the nature of the materials under discussion, I believe you made a mistake appearing here, as someone could already wait for you behind the door with a prepared knife for material... extraction. I am fully willing to cooperate- in fact, I've already donated a piece of Ambassador Baniya's biomass. The Jovians are my greatest interest- and I will involve myself with anything that may bring me closer to understanding them and, perhaps, associating with them A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 8337	Posted - 2014.11.07 04:39:09 - [88] - Quote I have dedicated much time to studying the Sleepers and Jovians ... and all I will say is that they are linked in ways many wouldn't ever imagine A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Anslo Scope Works 20967	Posted - 2014.11.07 05:08:50 - [89] - Quote Like we said, progress will not be stopped~ [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Gwen Ikiryo Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 327	Posted - 2014.11.07 05:21:00 - [90] - Quote Anslo wrote: Like we said, progress will not be stopped~ I think any organized resistance to it died with the Antiquarian dumping his stock, Anslo.
Anslo Scope Works 20968	Posted - 2014.11.07 06:38:37 - [91] - Quote Wait, so does that mean we light the fireworks and celebrate now? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Tyrel Toov Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 39	Posted - 2014.11.07 15:18:44 - [92] - Quote Anslo wrote: Wait, so does that mean we light the fireworks and celebrate now? I would hold off untill we know if what comes out of that lab is going to be a boon, or our bane.....
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 183	Posted - 2014.11.07 15:27:54 - [93] - Quote Tyrel Toov wrote: Anslo wrote: Wait, so does that mean we light the fireworks and celebrate now? I would hold off untill we know if what comes out of that lab is going to be a boon, or our bane..... In other words, fill hangar with warships. Alot of warships.
Rena Senn Resurrection Ventures Un.Bound 131	Posted - 2014.11.07 16:31:15 - [94] - Quote A stranger plagued by obvious madness comes begging for charity, and you're simply ready to hand over whatever is asked for? Surely something must have gotten into the latest batch of pod goo to have elicited such simultaneous mania among so many of us. e799bde9a6ace99d9ee9a6ac
Anslo Scope Works 20968	Posted - 2014.11.07 16:31:59 - [95] - Quote Tyrel Toov wrote: Anslo wrote: Wait, so does that mean we light the fireworks and celebrate now? I would hold off untill we know if what comes out of that lab is going to be a boon, or our bane..... If light fire works either way. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Anslo Scope Works 20968	Posted - 2014.11.07 16:32:54 - [96] - Quote Rena Senn wrote: A stranger plagued by obvious madness comes begging for charity, and you're simply ready to hand over whatever is asked for? Surely something must have gotten into the latest batch of pod goo to have elicited such simultaneous mania among so many of us. e799bde9a6ace99d9ee9a6ac No. Some of us just like pissing people like you off. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Rena Senn Resurrection Ventures Un.Bound 131	Posted - 2014.11.07 16:55:40 - [97] - Quote Anslo wrote: No. Some of us just like pissing people like you off. If by pissing off you mean die in a fire so that people like me can come pick up the pieces and sell them back to you, then sure, aim for the wind.
Anslo Scope Works 20968	Posted - 2014.11.07 16:59:10 - [98] - Quote That's cute. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Owen Levanth Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration 335	Posted - 2014.11.07 17:08:28 - [99] - Quote Rena Senn wrote: A stranger plagued by obvious madness comes begging for charity, and you're simply ready to hand over whatever is asked for? Surely something must have gotten into the latest batch of pod goo to have elicited such simultaneous mania among so many of us. e799bde9a6ace99d9ee9a6ac Immortals are easily bored.
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6429	Posted - 2014.11.07 18:59:34 - [100] - Quote Rena Senn wrote: A stranger plagued by obvious madness comes begging for charity, and you're simply ready to hand over whatever is asked for? Surely something must have gotten into the latest batch of pod goo to have elicited such simultaneous mania among so many of us. e799bde9a6ace99d9ee9a6ac Your analogy isn't quite accurate. In the first place, Hilen Tukoss isn't a stranger to some of these pilots; he's known, even if he's acting very oddly now, and his status as a human is in question. Further, 'bits of a presumably long-dead Jove' aren't necessarily 'whatever he asks for.' They're valuable trinkets, sure, but ultimately it's just biomass. In the second place, as an agent of the Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive, my duty is straightforward. The formal position of the Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive is that Hilen Tukoss is a criminal and a traitor, whose defection from Zainou included destruction of Ishukone Corporation vessels. It is therefore that the Enforcement Directive will not treat with him. As a citizen, however, and one with ties to Ishukone Corporation, I feel that sometimes progress requires that we deal with devils. This deal naturally shouldn't bring risk to ourselves or to the State. It shouldn't empower those forces hostile to us. Still, if there is technology to develop, resources to acquire, or markets to penetrate, it is our duty to ourselves and to the State to do all we can. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws. 4096	Posted - 2014.11.07 19:50:40 - [101] - Quote Rena Senn wrote: Anslo wrote: No. Some of us just like pissing people like you off. If by pissing off you mean die in a fire so that people like me can come pick up the pieces and sell them back to you, then sure, aim for the wind. There are two types of combat pilot, Ma'am. One of those flies a ridiculously overspecced gilded loot blimp of the sort that causes PTSD and rage when lost. The other sort truly could not care less for the scraps of the warships we fly. If you can make any sort of living scraping up the pieces left behind when my 3 million isk Kestrel pops, then be my guest. There are so many of you willing to service my need to fit out a replacement (which I do in batches of five to ten, usually) that I doubt you have the power to economically gouge me. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Mizhara Del'thul Sarz'namarr 37	Posted - 2014.11.07 19:53:30 - [102] - Quote @Makoto Priano However much I'd love to go back and turn his freighter into so much space debris, it'd be dishonest to say Tukoss was directly responsible for the destruction of Ishukone vessels. Ishukone vessels intercepted and attempted to blockade a vastly superior force, after repeated and clear warnings that aggression would be responded to in kind. They were given (repeatedly) the option of leaving peacefully. In an act of what can only be described as either suicide or incredible stupidity, they fired upon the freighter while countless weapons were locked on and ready to end them within seconds. What followed should not require any in-detail explanation. The Ishukone vessels that went down that day were commanded by what I can only assume is either Diana Kim levels of suicidal zealots or monumentally stupid people with no grasp on tactical situations. The destruction could have been avoided entirely and Hilen Tukoss, to his credit, never even mentioned destroying those vessels in his communication with the escort fleet. As I was the one responding to his calls for escort assistance in the Electus Matari comms channel and subsequently arranged for aid from Altaen, the finest fleet commander in EM (at the time, obviously) and various other pilots, I'll take responsibility for the unfortunately successful escort of Tukoss and the destruction of the hostiles along the way. The approval of certain Republic entities at the time made this seem like a worthy cause to pursue, but it quickly became apparent that I had made the second greatest mistake of my capsuleer career. Nonetheless, I did what I considered to be right knowing what I did at the time and the responsibility remains, regrets or not. I'll kill him on sight and Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive won't find me standing in the way should they decide to do something similar, but it should be for the crimes he did commit, not for those simply laid at his feet.
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour 650	Posted - 2014.11.07 20:15:46 - [103] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: The approval of certain Republic entities at the time made this seem like a worthy cause to pursue, but it quickly became apparent that I had made the second greatest mistake of my capsuleer career. Second ? What was the first ?
Mizhara Del'thul Sarz'namarr 37	Posted - 2014.11.07 20:37:18 - [104] - Quote A far more personal matter, even if it is quite literally written in stone.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1037	Posted - 2014.11.08 08:50:44 - [105] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Tyrel Toov wrote: Anslo wrote: Wait, so does that mean we light the fireworks and celebrate now? I would hold off untill we know if what comes out of that lab is going to be a boon, or our bane..... In other words, fill hangar with warships. Alot of warships. "If you want Peace, prepare for War" Not a bad advice under current circumstances. Hilen Tikoss is involved in wormhole research, and his current welcome message does mention he never stopped researching into this field despite his absence. After 3 years, one wonders what could come out of such lengthy study. The Arek'Jaalan Project The Masquerade Ball
Soldarius Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent 878	Posted - 2014.11.13 16:22:32 - [106] - Quote I've recently been digging through the SDE looking at celestial data. So when I saw the second part of the celestial ID sequence, I knew what to look for. Briefly, numbers beginning in 1 are region IDs, 2s are constellation IDs, 3s are system IDs, and 4s are individual celestial IDs, such as stars, moons, planets, etc. 40216465 is the celestial ID code for the Eram system's star, a class K6 main sequence star. Why he would want people to drop the stuff off at the star itself is a mystery to me. But at this point, it seems moot. Parts have been delivered. "Remember remember the 4th of November!" Phoebe. Coming soon to Eve Online.
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 1466	Posted - 2014.11.13 17:05:39 - [107] - Quote From 116/10/24: Morwen Lagann wrote: Ayni Naskingar wrote: You can find the 40216465 in there as the star ID of Eram (the sun). That would explain the auto-correction, then; Site One lies just over nine million kilometers from Eram's star, making it the closest "celestial" (according to capsule overview settings definitions) to the star. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Owner, The Golden Masque
Rena Senn Resurrection Ventures Un.Bound 133	Posted - 2014.11.15 23:42:33 - [108] - Quote So who here is still keen on cooperating?
Gehen Sealbreaker Sealbreaker Labs 34	Posted - 2014.11.16 08:51:03 - [109] - Quote Rena Senn wrote: So who here is still keen on cooperating? E&Co personnel, and Site One personnel in general, I fear. We should watch out for third party capsuleers who do not see the greater picture and will want to "cooperate" with this, believing it's a sanctioned Arek'Jalaan project.
Taraki Orani BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co. 0	Posted - 2014.11.25 12:22:48 - [110] - Quote Good to have you back. I hope this time, you can finish what you are started. The spark you started is now a big fire. Nevertheless, good to see you again.
Byrbeglin Alcantar Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER 5	Posted - 2014.12.01 16:31:34 - [111] - Quote Quote: When the time comes, I will call for deposits of the following, to be made to site one, in order for me to continue work. GÇó Blood Drop GÇó Bone Splinter GÇó Cerebral Slice GÇó Epidermis Sliver GÇó Liver Bile https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Manufacture_%26_Research:Materials:Rogue_Drone_Components Rogue drones building things, the only way they know how
Frenjo Borkstar Viziam Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2014.12.01 18:06:08 - [112] - Quote This is indeed deeply worrying... And would explain why the DED don't want us to assist, as the Jove most likely see this as an interference in their work, assuming this is trying to do what I believe it's trying to do. However horrible, it may be the way forward. As for cooperating... Most people know what I'm going to say.
Deceiver's Echo Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 23	Posted - 2014.12.01 18:44:55 - [113] - Quote Byrbeglin Alcantar wrote: Rogue drones building things, the only way they know how No. I would suggest you look into the event which caused these fragments to be spread across the cluster. There is a reason why this would be useful to the Arek'Jaalan project or others involved in wormhole research. You're looking at this from the wrong perspective. Historical database entry follows: Quote: Misu Baniya was the liaison for Extra-Racial Affairs with Jovian Directorate's Ministry of Information. In May YC106 the Jovian Directorate announced in a rare initiative that the ambassador, would be a diplomatic liaison with the four major empires and other factions, the Jove amazed New Eden by declaring that their representative would visit all the faction leaders in the space of one hour. With the method for achieving this miracle discovered to be a matter transmission device, amazement turned to horror when the device malfunctioned, scattering the Jovian ambassador across the cluster in tens of thousands of pieces. In the aftermath, Tunai Moran, Jovian Ambassador to the CONCORD Assembly, revealed that Misu Baniya's brainscan had not been completed before his disintegration, resulting in a faulty clone activation. The four empires swiftly offered to assist the Jovian Directorate when it was made clear that the Jove possessed the means to reconstruct Misu Baniya if sufficient fragments of his body could be recovered. It was soon discovered that tiny pieces of Baniya had appeared on stations across the New Eden cluster and the empires began to buy the Jovian body parts on the market. In June the Jovian Directorate was able to announce the successful molecular reconstruction of Misu Baniya and a conventional diplomatic tour by the restored Jovian ambassador. The only likely reasons for these body parts to be acquired: -Reconstructing the neural scan of Misu Baniya. -Study of the matter transmission device and any residual signatures present within Misu Baniya's remains. -Reconstructing the neural scan of Misu Baniya in order to gain any insight into the matter transmission device as well as studying any residual signatures present in the remains. Likely benefits of this type of research: Accessing SOCT training packages present within Misu Baniya's neural scan regarding the matter transmission device, and determining how matter transmission processes could be further applied in other fields of research. I would point to my own theory regarding the "Bright Star" as possible evidence of this research having significant importance to the Cluster as a whole.
Frenjo Borkstar Viziam Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2014.12.01 20:01:22 - [114] - Quote Deceiver's Echo wrote: Byrbeglin Alcantar wrote: Rogue drones building things, the only way they know how -SNIP- I would point to my own theory regarding the "Bright Star" as possible evidence of this research having significant importance to the Cluster as a whole. I agree with this, there's some kind of correlation between Caroline's Anomaly, and the strange messages, as listed in the thread. But what that correlation is, has yet to be uncovered, although everything's being monitored closely by my team and I.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5759	Posted - 2014.12.03 08:52:44 - [115] - Quote The same SoE agent who, every time I talk to her, acts like my mere presence is making her day, won't tell me where Hilen Tukoss might be. Yeah I know why not get a date but... nuns... Either Hilen Tukoss is indeed way out beyond even the reach of SoE (and that's considerable) or there's a cover-up afoot. Bring back DEEEEP Space!

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