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loader666 Caldari Stellar-Parallax Corp	Posted - 2006.08.20 12:12:00 - [1] Well this is now the 3rd reboot over the last few days. since i do LVL 4 missions so far it has cost me about 50mil + with lost cans because of reboots. Enemies abound either put the bounties on the ships or leave the cans in space after a reboot because just lately u reboot the Bl**dy servers just when i have finished and am about to start collecting the cans (NO CANS NO TAGS) = No Money
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.08.20 12:26:00 - [2] Originally by: loader666 Edited by: loader666 on 20/08/2006 12:23:29 Well this is now the 3rd reboot over the last few days. since i do LVL 4 missions so far it has cost me about 50mil + with lost cans because of reboots. Enemies abound either put the bounties on the ships or leave the cans in space after a reboot because just lately u reboot the Bldy servers just when i have finished and am about to start collecting the cans (NO CANS NO TAGS) = No Money thats my rant just waiting for the warning now Needs a thread why? It sucks, it's in the news, they know it's unacceptable, they're working on it. In before the lock - - - - - - - - - - Quote:** I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
loader666 Caldari Stellar-Parallax Corp	Posted - 2006.08.20 12:27:00 - [3] Thanks for that i dont read the news or forums or blogs if i did i wouldnt be playing the game with the amount of threads that get put up each day..
Lorette Gallente Grandma's WIth Guns	Posted - 2006.08.20 12:59:00 - [4] When you log in the news is to the right of your char's picture, cant miss it.
Mika Zimmer Gallente Renyn Supply Company	Posted - 2006.08.20 20:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Lorette When you log in the news is to the right of your char's picture, cant miss it. FYI it was down yesterday and not working in game.
Estelle Matsuko Caldari The Beiatch Corp Inc	Posted - 2006.08.21 11:18:00 - [6] Originally by: loader666 Edited by: loader666 on 20/08/2006 12:23:29 Well this is now the 3rd reboot over the last few days. since i do LVL 4 missions so far it has cost me about 50mil + with lost cans because of reboots. Enemies abound either put the bounties on the ships or leave the cans in space after a reboot because just lately u reboot the Bl**dy servers just when i have finished and am about to start collecting the cans (NO CANS NO TAGS) = No Money thats my rant just waiting for the warning now It hasn¦t "cost" you anything. You made isk on the bounties. You merely missed out on potential profit. In the words of the prophet "brown runny stuff happens" I feel your pain....no...really....I do.
Boris2k Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.08.21 11:58:00 - [7] seems to me people *** when they dont acknowledge server problems, then people *** when they do and apologise, are u the same people or a new breed? for one im glad that the acknowledgement has been rather hasty of late and so have the fix's
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries	Posted - 2006.08.21 11:59:00 - [8] Originally by: Estelle Matsuko Originally by: loader666 Edited by: loader666 on 20/08/2006 12:23:29 Well this is now the 3rd reboot over the last few days. since i do LVL 4 missions so far it has cost me about 50mil + with lost cans because of reboots. Enemies abound either put the bounties on the ships or leave the cans in space after a reboot because just lately u reboot the Bldy servers just when i have finished and am about to start collecting the cans (NO CANS NO TAGS) = No Money thats my rant just waiting for the warning now It hasn¦t "cost" you anything. You made isk on the bounties. You merely missed out on potential profit. In the words of the prophet "brown runny stuff happens" I feel your pain....no...really....I do. WTS Reading comprehension skillbook... In enemies abound, there are no bounties. The NPCs drop tags which sell to NPC corps for bounty-equivalent amounts. But if you cannot loot the cans, no bounty. And that up to 17ish million in EA 3/5.... I would be hella **ed too if it happened to me. --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
Gee'Kin'Lam	Posted - 2006.08.21 12:06:00 - [9] Yar, sucks reboots. If i dont lose my ships iam happy. I share ur feelings. But its not the end of life.
Deja Thoris Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.21 14:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Leandro Salazar Originally by: Estelle Matsuko Originally by: loader666 Edited by: loader666 on 20/08/2006 12:23:29 Well this is now the 3rd reboot over the last few days. since i do LVL 4 missions so far it has cost me about 50mil + with lost cans because of reboots. Enemies abound either put the bounties on the ships or leave the cans in space after a reboot because just lately u reboot the Bldy servers just when i have finished and am about to start collecting the cans (NO CANS NO TAGS) = No Money thats my rant just waiting for the warning now It hasn¦t "cost" you anything. You made isk on the bounties. You merely missed out on potential profit. In the words of the prophet "brown runny stuff happens" I feel your pain....no...really....I do. WTS Reading comprehension skillbook... In enemies abound, there are no bounties. The NPCs drop tags which sell to NPC corps for bounty-equivalent amounts. But if you cannot loot the cans, no bounty. And that up to 17ish million in EA 3/5.... I would be hella **ed too if it happened to me. In fairness neither of you are right. It "cost" you nothing. The closest you can get is opportunity cost which is an economic term implying missed earnings. Since you were being a pedant I joined in too

Akopian Atrebates	Posted - 2006.08.21 18:28:00 - [11] Well, that's a narrow definition of Opportunity Cost. An Opportunity Cost is the value of the most profitable activity he gave up that he could have been doing during that time. If he could make 10k more per hour mining than he could completing his missions then the opportunity cost of doing level 4 missions would be 10k per hour. Of course, he did lose the value of the time he spent in trying to get to the point where he would get his payoff for doing the level 4 missions. So his total loss includes both the opportunity cost of doing the most profitable activity he could have been doing plus the payoff he would have gotten if he had been able to finish his missions. That said, however, I'm sure that he spent his time doing something else while he couldn't get in, so we have to factor that in too. Perhaps the most profitable activity in terms of his life has nothing to do with EVE at all, and he is paying an opportunity cost merely by touching the game. Lost opportunities . . . I'm implying here that it is possible that he merely thinks that he is maximizing profit or happiness or utils or whatever in his life but perhaps he doesn't have perfect information about what will be best for himself. Nobody really has perfect information about what they should do so . . . it could be that his "loss" all worked out for the best. I say this in the spirt of being pedantic.
Niobe	Posted - 2006.08.21 19:53:00 - [12]
Kenz Rider	Posted - 2006.08.21 20:23:00 - [13] And just because the items didn't fall into his physical possession doesn't mean they weren't his and therefore couldn't be lost. A loss is a cost. If I lose $100,000 worth of inventory to a hurricane I can write it off.
Jittersss	Posted - 2006.08.21 20:32:00 - [14] This is just a game! A fact that many people seem not to see. The only time players should expect to be compensated is if the server is down for more than a day. I thought every one knew that server crashes was part of any on-line game !! If you can't handle server crashes just go back to playing on the XBOX 'nough said
Saryn Lightyear	Posted - 2006.08.22 09:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Akopian Atrebates Edited by: Akopian Atrebates on 21/08/2006 19:10:37 Who says Opportunity Costs aren't real costs? Courts recognize lost income, lost profits and lost business as a compensable cost. Why don't you? Ever heard of the saying, time is money? Because lost time is lost money! Besides which, that's a narrow definition of Opportunity Cost. An Opportunity Cost is the value of the most profitable activity he gave up that he could have been doing during that time. If he could make 10k more per hour mining than he could completing his missions then the opportunity cost of doing level 4 missions would be 10k per hour. Of course, he did lose the value of the time he spent in trying to get to the point where he would get his payoff for doing the level 4 missions. So his total loss includes both the opportunity cost of doing the most profitable activity he could have been doing plus the payoff he would have gotten if he had been able to finish his missions. That said, however, I'm sure that he spent his time doing something else while he couldn't get in, so we have to factor that in too. Perhaps the most profitable activity in terms of his life has nothing to do with EVE at all, and he is paying an opportunity cost merely by touching the game. Lost opportunities . . . I'm implying here that it is possible that he merely thinks that he is maximizing profit or happiness or utils or whatever in his life but perhaps he doesn't have perfect information about what will be best for himself. Nobody really has perfect information about what they should do so . . . it could be that his "loss" all worked out for the best. What a great idea, let CCP reimburse apoc mission runners the opportunity cost of flying a Raven to do missions.

Santiago Cortes Caldari Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.08.23 03:00:00 - [16] Locked Unconstructive OP. eve-crc.net \| forum rules \| c.a.o.d forum rules \| [email protected]



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