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Kieli Rast
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Posted - 2006.08.21 13:47:00 -
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So you have all been outsmarted. Not just in a small way, but a huge group of you market boffins have been defeated. Badly. Will you recover? I hope so. I would like to try and outsmart you again in future. But there is a sour taste to this discussion now, and thats people trying to get me kicked out of eve with the banzorr stick. Why? Did it hurt you that much how I abused your trust? Do you think I am the one to blame for your misfortune?
Lets see.....
CALLY IN A BUS CRASH OMG!! BBQ!!!  At no point in time did I ever come on these forums and say I was in a bus crash. I lied to EMFi, and he posted it. The responsibility lies with him im afraid.
NOW CALLY IS IN LOCKED UP!!! OMG HES A CRIMINAL!!! At no point in time did I come on these forums and say I was in prison. I gave that information to Kal D'vogh, and he posted it. The responsibility lies with him im afraid.
NOOO!!! CALLY IS A DEAD DRUGGIE!!!! At no point in time did I come on these forums and say I was dead. I lied to Dark Lord, and he posted it. The responsibility lies with him im afraid.
The point im making is that you are all saying I have done this or that, but you are not looking at the facts. I used out of EVE means to contact people and give them information. Wether that information was accurate or not is irrelevant, but what is relevant is what that person decided to do with that information. I have never forced them to do something. Just like when you handed me your isk. You decided to give me the isk. They decided to post a lie. I just let it happen 
Essentially, they were my puppets, and I was the puppet master. You, were the audience enjoying the show.
I have committed no EULA offence, and as such your just going to have to deal with the fact that I outsmarted the lot of you.
- I have taken your isk, simply by convincing you to give it to me
- I aquired 790b wealth in less than 4 months. This works out at a rate of around 5-6 billion per day
- Unlike all previous scams before me, I have not hidden behind alts. You know my main and I told you. You want revenge? Come pod kill my ass.
- I am still causing drama now with everyone blaming someone else but me. Stop and think about it. This is all my doing. No one elses. I am as EMFi put it on TS the other night, a genius.
- I have scammed you before, just you dont know it yet. There is one scam still running now and your all none the wiser. Wise up people. Im going to keep doing this until you do. CCP aint going to hold your hand.
- I made a video and posted it so you could all see the real person behind the scam. I Laughed in your face because it ammused me. It still does now.
- Not one person will ever get their money back from me. Im not a charity, I dont give donations. Unless it benefits me in some way (BIG LOTTERY)
My advice?
Wise up. There is enough tools in EVE already to prevent this sort of thing happening. Look at how I ensured Mung Lore could not rip off his investors. There are ways to do it.
Anything and Everything is possible in EVE.
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Jade Grimpkin
Trader's Academy Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.21 13:56:00 -
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spot reserved for when i can think of something to say (then i can edit to look more knowledgable/incisive.
You can't win Eve, it's all mine mwhahahahaha.
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Death Mate
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:01:00 -
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Sorry Bucky, you did NOT act alone and you will not be given sole credit for the heist.
Why? You mention the word "WE" three times in your video.
There was at least one other person involved, so sorry bud, not gonna happen.
Care to explain why you used that word if you were acting alone?
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Malicious Wraith
The Dark Side of the Moon
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Malicious Wraith on 21/08/2006 14:04:50 Stupid traders, stock buyers, investor's, and market manipulators.
I love being a pirate, no stupid scam drama FTW!\
and this Dentara rast guy is *Really* stuck up with himself.
We all know you have taken advantage of alot of people, and made alot of ISK doing it. Gg, go spend it and shut up. ----------------------------------------
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Sir Juri
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Sir Juri on 21/08/2006 14:12:10
EMFI is a scam!? btw congratulations on a crazy feat, you got balls!
edit; he wasnt alone atleast not in terms of dividing the ISK. EMFI? meh*
damn need to make a new sig... |

Marodi Julita
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:11:00 -
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sounds like someone can't stand not getting attention.
Next time, scam people and then put it to good by building stations or ships for the poor. That isk would not have done that anyway.
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EMFI Auditor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:12:00 -
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Quote: At no point in time did I ever come on these forums and say I was in a bus crash. I lied to EMFi, and he posted it. The responsibility lies with him im afraid.
a lie.
Quote: At no point in time did I come on these forums and say I was in prison. I gave that information to Kal D'vogh, and he posted it. The responsibility lies with him im afraid.
another lie
Quote: At no point in time did I come on these forums and say I was dead. I lied to Dark Lord, and he posted it. The responsibility lies with him im afraid.
ok this might be true :P
Quote: [*]I have scammed you before, just you dont know it yet.
another lie
Quote: There is one scam still running now and your all none the wiser.
and a lie
Don't insult my intelligence please my friend. ------------------------------------------
"The only thing I am gonna argue with alts is wether I should argue with alts."
-- Naphtalia 2006 |

Astorothe
Ono-Sensai
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kieli Rast I made a video and posted it so you could all see the real person behind the scam. I Laughed in your face because it ammused me. It still does now.
It's a game - relax.
I have only just caught up with all this in the last 24 hours. Must say, well done!
Enjoy your billions by the way - maybe you should run a lottery and give just a lil back (say a hundred mil or so) or help some n00bs.
Either way, chill out on the forums and allow people to get over their own stupidity in their own way. :) You pwned them for sure, but not in a way that'll earn their respect - only hate unfortunately.
I knew kids like you in school. I dont know them anymore - know what I mean?
Ono-Sensai is a Corporation for Role Players Gaming Network Members |

Sir Juri
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:16:00 -
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Logic dictates atleast one other IPO scam is running. He might have scammed before who knows, perhaps he was part of guilding hands or he is Currin? (weirder things have happen) or something else, perhaps one smaller scam so it wasnt talked about as much as the big ones.
damn need to make a new sig... |

EMFI Auditor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Juri Logic dictates atleast one other IPO scam is running.
This is true, he is just incorrect in assuming we don't know about it yet. We are just letting him run it because it is in our best interest to do so... for now.
Or... I am bluffing and hope he reveals it :P ------------------------------------------
"The only thing I am gonna argue with alts is wether I should argue with alts."
-- Naphtalia 2006 |

Sir Juri
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: EMFI Auditor
Originally by: Sir Juri Logic dictates atleast one other IPO scam is running.
This is true, he is just incorrect in assuming we don't know about it yet. We are just letting him run it because it is in our best interest to do so... for now.
Or... I am bluffing and hope he reveals it :P
Well I bet almost all recent created IPO's are all scams just cause of the publicity scamming got and the fact it works. I also bet most of every lottery is a scam to because again its to easy to scam and ppl are suckers. I also bet some of the older running IPO's are scams and are just waiting to release their own video about it 
Also I wouldnt be supprised if This Cally is involved in one more scam as we speak or intends to make another one.
damn need to make a new sig... |

Kieli Rast
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: EMFI Auditor
Quote: At no point in time did I ever come on these forums and say I was in a bus crash. I lied to EMFi, and he posted it. The responsibility lies with him im afraid.
a lie.
Quote: At no point in time did I come on these forums and say I was in prison. I gave that information to Kal D'vogh, and he posted it. The responsibility lies with him im afraid.
another lie
Quote: At no point in time did I come on these forums and say I was dead. I lied to Dark Lord, and he posted it. The responsibility lies with him im afraid.
ok this might be true :P
Quote: [*]I have scammed you before, just you dont know it yet.
another lie
Quote: There is one scam still running now and your all none the wiser.
and a lie
Don't insult my intelligence please my friend.
I did not insult your intelligence in this post. I actually respect how intelligent you are, you just could not outsmart me and despite what you believe I used you and the way you do things for my benefit.
I never posted any of the mishaps I supposedly had.
Please quote me. 
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:33:00 -
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Well done for praying on people's greed and stupidity 
What I do the rest of the time. |

maGz
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:33:00 -
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People should ignore Mr. emo.. uhm I mean Rast' increasing needs for attention. Yes you lost isk, declare war on the guy and pod him 'til he lost all the isk... Problem solved.
PS. And if you honestly think winning EVE is done by having ****loads of isk, you've failed @ EVE.  ________________
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EMFI Auditor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: EMFI Auditor on 21/08/2006 14:36:14
Originally by: Kieli Rast I did not insult your intelligence in this post. I actually respect how intelligent you are, you just could not outsmart me and despite what you believe I used you and the way you do things for my benefit.
I never posted any of the mishaps I supposedly had.
Please quote me. 
I am just saying that the things you said in your post are actually false (specifically the items I quoted) I also suspect you post them here to see wether we know about them or not.
It isn't in my interest at this point to reveal wether I actually know the things you are claiming are false or wether I am bluffing.
As I also know you lied about a few things in the video. Time will tell but it is annoying when the puppet starts to use the strings to control the puppetmaster.
Isn't it?
edit: claimed -> quoted ------------------------------------------
"The only thing I am gonna argue with alts is wether I should argue with alts."
-- Naphtalia 2006 |

Death Mate
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Death Mate Sorry Bucky, you did NOT act alone and you will not be given sole credit for the heist.
Why? You mention the word "WE" three times in your video.
There was at least one other person involved, so sorry bud, not gonna happen.
Care to explain why you used that word if you were acting alone?
Conspicously absent from your reply is the addressing of my question.
Understandably so, however.
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Kieli Rast
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: EMFI Auditor Edited by: EMFI Auditor on 21/08/2006 14:36:14
Originally by: Kieli Rast I did not insult your intelligence in this post. I actually respect how intelligent you are, you just could not outsmart me and despite what you believe I used you and the way you do things for my benefit.
I never posted any of the mishaps I supposedly had.
Please quote me. 
I am just saying that the things you said in your post are actually false (specifically the items I quoted) I also suspect you post them here to see wether we know about them or not.
It isn't in my interest at this point to reveal wether I actually know the things you are claiming are false or wether I am bluffing.
As I also know you lied about a few things in the video. Time will tell but it is annoying when the puppet starts to use the strings to control the puppetmaster.
Isn't it?
edit: claimed -> quoted
You and I both know the truth, but I will play your game EMFi 
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EMFI Auditor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kieli Rast
You and I both know the truth, but I will play your game EMFi 
ok. ------------------------------------------
"The only thing I am gonna argue with alts is wether I should argue with alts."
-- Naphtalia 2006 |

Boonaki
Caldari Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:47:00 -
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Kind of wish I would of invested a lil isk in this. I would of been part of eve history. Fear the Ibis of doom!
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Halafian
Eve University
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Posted - 2006.08.21 15:31:00 -
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I think if a guy is going to build a real-life apparatus to support a lie/scam in game, it's fair for people to work to get him banned. After all, that's sort of playing the system, too. You plays the game, you takes your chances -- and that chance includes the possibility you get banned. If that banning happens on an ad-hoc basis without establishing a precedent, that's fine, too. Just knocking down one egregious scammer would be nice.
Meanwhile, the honest brokers/business people on Eve should get in gear and hire mercs/bounty hunters whatever, to hunt scammers down. More usefully, get the various Eve corps to lock these guys out. Don't sell to them, don't buy from them, don't work with them in any way.
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Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.21 15:50:00 -
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I compare this kind of "achievment" to a dirty little street-urchin panhandler, asking for spare change while shouting "look at me, I stole your money..."
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.."
Trading 101 |

Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.08.21 16:22:00 -
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Getting people banned because you are a loser (as in, someone who lost) and cannot cope with it in any other way is lame. So is faking death.
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Halafian
Eve University
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Posted - 2006.08.21 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Halafian on 21/08/2006 16:41:29 I don't have anything invested in this or anything else, but I'm always happy to see liars and cheats get some payback. Things have a way of coming around. If that means random banning in return for real-life and out of character lying to back a scam, I'm fine with that. All part of the game, right?
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Amuko
Amarr A.W.M Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.21 17:03:00 -
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I didn't have any money invested in this, and I really liked this scam.. was thought up very well, but after seeing ALL your posts about it after you did it, and things like your sig etc etc... this is what I see when I read your posts.
Originally by: Kieli Rast
Bla bla bla.. I'm f***ing rich! bla bla bla ....my e-peen.. it's HUGE!.. more crap about how good I am
Please, act normal
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Sir Juri
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.21 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Amuko I didn't have any money invested in this, and I really liked this scam.. was thought up very well, but after seeing ALL your posts about it after you did it, and things like your sig etc etc... this is what I see when I read your posts.
Originally by: Kieli Rast
Bla bla bla.. I'm f***ing rich! bla bla bla ....my e-peen.. it's HUGE!.. more crap about how good I am
Please, act normal
True but if their is situations you are allowed to use your e-peen then this is one of them situations tbh. Just as much as it is to hop on the bandwaggon against RA and brag about it advertising to EVE that you outblobbed your enemy (no pun intended.) come on hes a ***** perhaps and annoying as such but if you manage to take like a trillion ISK, scamming all he did (biggest scam in EVE,) he should have the right to gloat and most of us would do to (about other stuff perhaps, like blob warfare.)
damn need to make a new sig... |

Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.21 17:27:00 -
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Personally, I preferred the Cally attitude. It has only really been one day so far, but I am already getting sick of this style of writing. It reeks of the writings of a WoW player who just mined their first unit of veldspar in their ibis. Based on his self-professed low combat skills however, this alone may be a feat for Dentara Rast.
Insured Research and Production Services |

Amuko
Amarr A.W.M Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.21 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Juri
Originally by: Amuko I didn't have any money invested in this, and I really liked this scam.. was thought up very well, but after seeing ALL your posts about it after you did it, and things like your sig etc etc... this is what I see when I read your posts.
Originally by: Kieli Rast
Bla bla bla.. I'm f***ing rich! bla bla bla ....my e-peen.. it's HUGE!.. more crap about how good I am
Please, act normal
True but if their is situations you are allowed to use your e-peen then this is one of them situations tbh. Just as much as it is to hop on the bandwaggon against RA and brag about it advertising to EVE that you outblobbed your enemy (no pun intended.) come on hes a ***** perhaps and annoying as such but if you manage to take like a trillion ISK, scamming all he did (biggest scam in EVE,) he should have the right to gloat and most of us would do to (about other stuff perhaps, like blob warfare.)
I'd think he has enough threads dedicated to him already for his e-peen to be satisfied
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Crazzex
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Posted - 2006.08.21 17:31:00 -
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Damn, this attention whoring is getting so very sad, such a lack of style.
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