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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:07:35 -
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The meeting minutes from the CSM Summer Summit are now available!
Read all the details of what the CSM9 discussed with CCP developers over the course of three intense days in Reykjavik at the CCP headquarters.
Check out CCP Leeloo's latest dev blog CSM9 Summer Summit Minutes! to learn more about the meeting minutes, the next CSM summit and more.
The CSM Summer Summit minutes (146 pages in total) are available here.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager
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Sion Kumitomo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:22:41 -
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EVE is real: I was there. |
ChromeStriker
0ne Percent. Odin's Call
777
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:25:06 -
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O.o i thought these were lost
I joke
Seriously tho awesome
No Worries
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4091
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:26:24 -
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The meetings. oh god the meetings.
I want a 'I survived the CSM 9 summer summit' tshirt.
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:28:34 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:The meetings. oh god the meetings.
I want a 'I survived the CSM 9 summer summit' tshirt.
Trust when I say Winter is worse. Especially in Iceland. You'll come to miss daylight.
RvB Ganked: EVE's Number One Weekly Public Roam
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CCP Leeloo
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:31:15 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote: I want a 'I survived the CSM 9 summer summit' tshirt.
First you ask for the minutes to be published in time, now the t-shirt. YOU WANT TOO MUCH!
CCP Leeloo | CSM Coordinator | Russian Community Coordinator | @ccp_leeloo
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Sion Kumitomo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
160
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:40:55 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:The meetings. oh god the meetings.
I want a 'I survived the CSM 9 summer summit' tshirt.
I'm pretty sure what we call "meeting hell," CCP calls a regular workday. Those folks put in a lot of hours. |
Sugar Kyle
Snuff Box
731
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:41:38 -
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I still want a mug.
Member of CSM9
CSM9 Weekly Updates
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
947
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Posted - 2014.10.29 16:42:29 -
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The inch-mile cascade scenario is real
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2014.10.29 18:06:05 -
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What's this new dogma thing? |
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4091
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Posted - 2014.10.29 18:13:38 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:What's this new dogma thing?
Dogma is the core engine for stats in Eve. How much damage do your guns do? Ask Dogma. How many shield HP do you have? Ask Dogma.
The downside is, the current version of dogma is based on the idea 'take a bunch of attributes from things, and add/multiply them together. return that'. It can't have specific values poked into it.
Brain in a Box is the name of the project to have things like your character skills all precalculated and stored in a central location, so it doesn't have to recalculate things each time you session change. Dogma needs a rewrite to be able to use the values from it.
That's being worked on.
http://youtu.be/diGYlJNpPEo?t=37m15s is part of a fanfest 2014 presentation on it.
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.29 18:14:33 -
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Edit: Steve Ronuken beat me to it.
P.S. Hey, there's my name in the minutes!! \o/
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Noriko Mai
1585
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Posted - 2014.10.29 18:25:44 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:stuff
thx
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Mister Ripley
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Posted - 2014.10.29 19:51:33 -
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I'm a bit sad that smallholding isn't mentioned. I'm kinda loner in EVE and it is something I look forward to since it was mentioned in 2011. Or can I assume that the plans for scalable POS imply a way for small entities to grasp thier little part of the universe to call home? |
Fonac
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:00:26 -
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Was a very good read!
I'm really looking forward, to all the ideas and what they may one day become(hopefully sooner than later!) It also seems CCP has internally has become alot more productive, and are producing stuff much faster.
While beforehand, you often had the feeling that nothing new was revealed, or being worked on.. These notes are quite different. Literally every single topic, has juicy stuff in them.
The sov revamp looks tasty as hell, i can't wait to see it happen.
And finally; Pos and standing revamp... |
Lady Zarrina
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:30:02 -
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Scanned through most of this and looks like Eve is heading towards some interesting (good) times. I am not a big Null guy, but the possible changes outlined for sov should make for some real interesting forum reading at the very least :)
And it was good to read you are ready to move on from Incarna. That was a horrid horrid mistake. For me, the biggest was ignoring the base game in favor allowing you to walk around in a closet. Most MMO's design continents and some even worlds, Eve has a whole universe. But then you stopped everything to to make a closet. And.... you wanted a slap on the back and attaboy to boot. Don't get me wrong, it looked great, so great my GPU melted. I'm sure my house would have burned to the ground if I walked around a populated station, I can only imagine a nuclear explosion if I undocked in Jita. Okay okay, got that outta my system.
So you did the 180, got back to the base and stepped up your game. And Eve need it, and it needs more of it, and from reading the minutes, you guys know where it is needed. But thank you flying spaghetti monster for getting brave again. It is time. Just do it wisely.
EVE: All about Flying Frisky and Making Iskie
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:43:47 -
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Lady Zarrina wrote:Scanned through most of this and looks like Eve is heading towards some interesting (good) times. I am not a big Null guy, but the possible changes outlined for sov should make for some real interesting forum reading at the very least :)
And it was good to read you are ready to move on from Incarna. That was a horrid horrid mistake. For me, the biggest was ignoring the base game in favor allowing you to walk around in a closet. Most MMO's design continents and some even worlds, Eve has a whole universe. But then you stopped everything to to make a closet. And.... you wanted a slap on the back and attaboy to boot. Don't get me wrong, it looked great, so great my GPU melted. I'm sure my house would have burned to the ground if I walked around a populated station, I can only imagine a nuclear explosion if I undocked in Jita. Okay okay, got that outta my system.
So you did the 180, got back to the base and stepped up your game. And Eve need it, and it needs more of it, and from reading the minutes, you guys know where it is needed. But thank you flying spaghetti monster for getting brave again. It is time. Just do it wisely.
maybe you should stop playing eve on a broke as pc. im just saying, there needs to be immersion in stations, we need to be able to walk around and even chat with everyone that's in dock with us.. I have no sympathy and gives no fawks for someone whinning their pc couldn't handle walking around in a station.. sorry that's your broke as pc not mine.. I hope they add more into this walking in station add a lounge.. unlock the door or something cause its stupid not being able to.. its even more stupid not being able to yet seems ok to ccp make money from us by selling a $5 e-shirt, boot, pants for our avatars.. they need to fix this incomplete mess. |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:45:55 -
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Mister Ripley wrote:I'm a bit sad that smallholding isn't mentioned. I'm kinda loner in EVE and it is something I look forward to since it was mentioned in 2011. Or can I assume that the plans for scalable POS imply a way for small entities to grasp thier little part of the universe to call home? EDIT: Forum thread from CCP Greyscale and the respective DevBlog.
More scalable starbases are a thing we would probably need before we can achieve that particular bulletpoint, yes. |
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Taresh Jahemis
Yashida Industries
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:51:10 -
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Some parts of the minutes were annoyingly vague, for example:
Quote: Add a small handful of appropriate herbs. How am I supposed to know what appropriate herbs are? Isn't the whole point of a recipe to be specific?
On a more serious note, I really enjoyed reading the minutes and I am tremendously excited about the future of Eve. |
Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:05:17 -
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Taresh Jahemis wrote:...I really enjoyed reading the minutes and I am tremendously excited about the future of Eve. Agreed! Am also really excited about the future and what it may bring!
Especially glad to read this part, looks like a really positive attitude towards some greater, bolder moves...
Quote:CCP Seagull - For the record. This was so many years ago and we have done so much work to reach now. I, as the executive producer, am in a risk taking mode. But, in the new way that we work. Not just random things. We need to be bolder. We should be able to get over our trauma of Incarna. We need to own our game and be courageous with it. I think our players want that of us.
It's time to get over incarna and start taking risks again, educated and calculated risks of course, but we need to make sure that we deliver solid content to veteran players. We have trained players to be afraid of us doing big things. It meant we put something big out that was half done and it never got touched again. Us doing something big, such as industry, means CCP is going to mess it up again and we will have to pick up the mess. We, internally, have become scared in a sense of making bolder changes to the game so that we know we can control the outcome. Because we do not want to be perceived as messing up again. We can predict what is going on. That predictability is boring everyone to death now. We need to challenge and move forward with solid plans owned by teams that are building the vision in their hands. We need to turn up the volume.
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Valterra Craven
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:06:05 -
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One of the things that really annoys me about reading the minutes is that it seems like you guys come up with a lot of reasons on why something won't work rather than trying to work through the complications to make a viable potential change worthwhile.
The thunder dome is a prime example of this. You guys are worried about griefing with it.
Step 1. Make it deployable only on moons, stars, or planets where there are not already missions etc that go there (thinking about some of the static cosmos stuff in this regard) Step 2. Make it have a graphic sphere like warp bubbles. Step 3. Require the bubble to have a password to be setup (much like a pos sphere) before it onlines. Step 4. Require any ship entering the bubble require the password to be entered or you bounce off it (to prevent people from bumping you in. When you enter the password put in big bold red letters than anyone inside the bubble can shoot you at will without concord intervention. Step 5. Profit.
It irritates the mess out of me when I go to my boss and I say "I have this problem" and then he corrects me and says "you mean you have this opportunity to succeed", but really I think you guys could use a healthy dose of that mentality. |
Sven Viko VIkolander
Friends and Feminists
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:06:21 -
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10/10 - Good recipes, will make Steve's sauce.
Then something about the art team and hats...does this mean that Mad Ani will finally have a fedora in game?
My general perception of the current CSM is that Sugar Kyle is an MVP and needs to be a permanent fixture. Her feedback seems to be extensive and really helpful. A good amount of mynnna's predictions about the power projection changes seemed to already have turned out false.
Tags for standings - DO IT NOW
FW Missions more open to interference - Also do this asap
A light gang-boosting destroyer - Do it but fix OGB before 2020 ok?
Also: I fully support separating jump clones for travel and jump clones for swapping implants. Allow swapping clones located in one system? Almost every week my gameplay is limited based on what clone I am in versus what activities I want to do in that area (e.g., I want to go on a null roam but am in a slave clone etc).
My favorite line of the minutes:
CCP Greyscale: "We do not want to make anything ever again that cannot be blown up." |
Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1238
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:06:35 -
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Is "Gabe" CCP Nullarbor?
"Guilhem" and "Orvar" also appear in the Industry Recap, and Gabe gets called Gabriel once.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
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Dalilus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:06:51 -
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Things to do at the CSM summit...
Buff nullbear space, check Buff lowsec, check Buff carebear space, still looking into it
Favorite line: CCP Fozzie - To clarify: When we talk about content internally we are often talking about missions and that type of thing. If only we could believe you........ |
Sven Viko VIkolander
Friends and Feminists
293
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:39:18 -
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From the minutes: Sion Kumitomo - The point is that people do not generally choose to live in nullsec for economic reasons they do it for aspiration reasons.
Wow, really, do the numbers bear that out? As if renters didn't exist? As if afk-tars / isktars didn't exist? You do realize that you can go look at NPC kill statistics on archives like dotlan, and it turns out that close to the same number of NPCs are killed in null as are killed in HS?
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Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:44:23 -
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Sven Viko VIkolander wrote:From the minutes: Sion Kumitomo - The point is that people do not generally choose to live in nullsec for economic reasons they do it for aspiration reasons.
Wow, really, do the numbers bear that out? As if renters didn't exist? As if afk-tars / isktars didn't exist? You do realize that you can go look at NPC kill statistics on archives like dotlan, and it turns out that close to the same number of NPCs are killed in null as are killed in HS?
It's called having your cake and eating it too. :) According to Fozzie the Nullbears are raking it in hand over fist.
CCP Fozzie - That being said I do still believe that is being a bit overstated. Considering so much of the actual ISK in the game is from null sec bounties. A lot more people are making their money in null sec |
Valterra Craven
302
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:44:48 -
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Also, since I'm creating posts as I read through the minutes. I'm curious about why something like the Space Object Factory isn't adapted to other things, like Deployable objects, and clothing. It would be nice to have a base shirt type and be to chose the color of it for example, or have a POS have Quafe colors etc. |
Arcos Vandymion
White Beast Inc.
72
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:58:56 -
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Some good laughs in there -
page 24 in regard to post tiericide Meta0 CCP Rise - These are sometimes useful as they have way lower fitting requirements for niche fits. ---really? I have yet to find a use better than reprocessing them
page 25 in regard to DCU tiericide CCP Fozzie - People will have a clearer guideline on what module they need if they need to save on CPU or Grid etc. ---to my experience meta DCUs are only chosen if there's nothing else left to gimp that isn't a GUN
page 25 Mike Azariah - Defender missiles? CCP Fozzie - We'll probably find a different use for these, or just remove them from the game at some point. However, we may still say that ten years from now. ---Def-whatnow? *looks left, looks right* Never heard of such things...
page 26 T2 Crystals ---Scorch But yeah - T1 Mining crystalls aren't really worth it. Training for T2 crystals takes barely longer and the difference between T1 strip and T2 strip w T1 crystals is the same as T2+T1 to T2+T2. Combined with the fact that we are talking about something like a few cubic metres a second maximum difference here (Hulk with maximum MLU IIs and skills, Max skilled mindlinked Orca with T2 links) you either forego crystals completely and mine everything equally well or go T2 crystals and only mine what you have the crystalls for.
page 26 ---Faction CoProcs? Again - what for? 5link T3 OGBs? These are abominations anyway and should be put down (preferrably with Scorch if it was me).
page 27 ----Effectively Scorch OP vs PvE and Tach and Heavy Beam INMF OP vs PvP ? sounds balanced enough. Until you consider that people use a lot of Beams with MF in PvE too which makes me wonder why people say Scorch is OP ...
Have to agree with Valterra Craven - get that modular design stuff going ASAP. More content in less time. You can basically apply it to everything. Ships, stations, cloths, modules (aka turrets and launchers - still waiting for the remaining highslot 3d models), drones and so on and forth.
Oh yeah - didn't read the rest yet (anything but Ship&Module rebalance). Doesn't bother me a whole lot compared to the not so brilliant tiericide effort we've seen so far. |
Lady Zarrina
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.29 22:01:41 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:Lady Zarrina wrote:Scanned through most of this and looks like Eve is heading towards some interesting (good) times. I am not a big Null guy, but the possible changes outlined for sov should make for some real interesting forum reading at the very least :)
And it was good to read you are ready to move on from Incarna. That was a horrid horrid mistake. For me, the biggest was ignoring the base game in favor allowing you to walk around in a closet. Most MMO's design continents and some even worlds, Eve has a whole universe. But then you stopped everything to to make a closet. And.... you wanted a slap on the back and attaboy to boot. Don't get me wrong, it looked great, so great my GPU melted. I'm sure my house would have burned to the ground if I walked around a populated station, I can only imagine a nuclear explosion if I undocked in Jita. Okay okay, got that outta my system.
So you did the 180, got back to the base and stepped up your game. And Eve need it, and it needs more of it, and from reading the minutes, you guys know where it is needed. But thank you flying spaghetti monster for getting brave again. It is time. Just do it wisely. maybe you should stop playing eve on a broke as pc. im just saying, there needs to be immersion in stations, we need to be able to walk around and even chat with everyone that's in dock with us.. I have no sympathy and gives no fawks for someone whinning their pc couldn't handle walking around in a station.. sorry that's your broke as pc not mine.. I hope they add more into this walking in station add a lounge.. unlock the door or something cause its stupid not being able to.. its even more stupid not being able to yet seems ok to ccp make money from us by selling a $5 e-shirt, boot, pants for our avatars.. they need to fix this incomplete mess.
My PC was fine :) It was blazing hot, but fine. And almost everyone else who had a decent PC at release was saying the same thing. But I get it, you like walking around in stations.
EVE: All about Flying Frisky and Making Iskie
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Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
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Posted - 2014.10.29 22:08:24 -
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Nice read and good job of even getting it out early.
But is Ytterbium scared of creating skynet or why doesn-¦t he want the NPCs to behave like players?
Quote:We don't want to end up with NPCs ganking you and talking smack about your mother in local |
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