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das licht Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:28:00 - [1] Edited by: das licht on 23/08/2006 09:29:47 It is sounding funny. 'Eindeutschen' is the work you have to do! VARIATIONS = VARIANTEN not ABWANDLUNGEN while ABWANDLUNGEN isn't wrong but we wouldn't call it that way. You might even just call it MODELLE. CARGOBAY = LADERAUM not KAPAZIT-T CAPACITOR = ENERGIEKERN not INHALT HAUPTBATTERIE might work also One really need some time to find the best translation.
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:30:00 - [2] Literal translations 4tw. "Drinking Pepsi can bring your relatives back from the dead!" ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Forsch Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:34:00 - [3] I'll never use the German version even tho I am German. German translations just suck. Imo they aren't necessary. Everyone learns English at school anyway and the internet requires some English knowledge as well. Forsch Defender of the empire More love for side factions!
Juwi Kotch Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:35:00 - [4] There was a whole big thread on the German localisation. Since I do not plan to use the German language version client (although, as I expected, it was on per default when I started EVE this morning, and had to change it back to english language), I haven't followed that thread. But I know from my experience with localisations of english language games, that I always was wondering that they do not have one mother-tongue expert (linguists, not players) having look over it. No german native speaker would have made the translations the OP has mentioned, regarding the context of the game, only dictionaries would have. So I'm not surprised. Juwi Kotch
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:35:00 - [5] Pepsi drinken kann ihre Verwandten von den Toten zurnckholen.
MOS DEF Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:43:00 - [6] I am austrian and therefore german native speaker but immediatly switched back to english. There is no purpose in translating because all the other people use the english client. If i tell my corp mates that i don`t have enough KapazitSt to move something over they will look at me funny at best. This is a waste of time that could`ve been invested somewhere else. Doing it with babelsfish maybe saved some time but you see what happenes if you do.
Burlock Ironfist Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:46:00 - [7] Originally by: MOS DEF This is a waste of time that could`ve been invested somewhere else. was done by volenteers so no time or effort by ccp was really lost. BOOBIES!
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:47:00 - [8] Originally by: MOS DEF I am austrian and therefore german native speaker but immediatly switched back to english. There is no purpose in translating because all the other people use the english client. If i tell my corp mates that i don`t have enough KapazitSt to move something over they will look at me funny at best. This is a waste of time that could`ve been invested somewhere else. Doing it with babelsfish maybe saved some time but you see what happenes if you do. a 'mundl' version would be great though at least for the 'voice' _________________________________ just because you are not paranoid doesn't mean i'm not following!
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:48:00 - [9] Well, I think they localized it to attract non-eglish speaking autrian, swiss and germans. Which isn't wrong because there are a lot who don't speak it.
Biltic Creen	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:51:00 - [10] I always wonder about the same phenomenon: Multi-million dollar projects, be it film or gaming or whatever industry, and they wont invest the (insert relatively small amount of money) to let a native speaker review the translation. Best examples are always found in the film industry: One just one single sentence in the movie is spoken in "German" and its so wrong that my ears bleed (i often watch english movies in (you guessed it) english, cause i can't stand the synchronisation. This post is not my personal opinion. It does represent the standpoint of every single player !
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:53:00 - [11] Originally by: Biltic Creen I always wonder about the same phenomenon: Multi-million dollar projects, be it film or gaming or whatever industry, and they wont invest the (insert relatively small amount of money) to let a native speaker review the translation. Best examples are always found in the film industry: One just one single sentence in the movie is spoken in "German" and its so wrong that my ears bleed (i often watch english movies in (you guessed it) english, cause i can't stand the synchronisation. the localization version of eve WAS tested and reviewed by natives. there even was the chance to paritcipate! the only problem is that once a team works on it some decisions have to be made in a democratic manner and that won't work ofc _________________________________ just because you are not paranoid doesn't mean i'm not following!
grizouh Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:53:00 - [12] there has been always problems when you first played the english version and than switched to a german translation. only wanna say goldhain and schlingendorntal <g> will stick with the english client but i think it is not really relevant for the german speaking player which already played eve but, it will attract new players which hardly speak any english at all.
Rose Kolodny Gallente Space Invaders	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:57:00 - [13] Switched back, amusing that a client restart is needed for that. -- Recruiting Video - Recruiting Thread
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:57:00 - [14] LoL a 'Mundl' version ... Ein echter Wiener geht nicht unter?
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 09:59:00 - [15] Edited by: Ethidium Bromide on 23/08/2006 09:59:08 Originally by: das licht LoL a 'Mundl' version ... Ein echter Wiener geht nicht unter? yep, don't know why it just came to my mind but i really like the idea now of 'approaching stargate' being 'Zuwe zum Tiarl du Weh!' EDIT: spelling _________________________________ just because you are not paranoid doesn't mean i'm not following!
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:02:00 - [16] lol
Daemonchylde Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:02:00 - [17] I'm still not sure if CCP actually employed a professional localisation team/translator (with an idea of the game on top of their translation experience), and I somehow doubt it considering the lack of fitting translation. Localisation isn't something you can "just do", it's something you need both professional translators and people with the actual regional background for ... and in the case of EVE, both parties need to have a good idea of the game, else it's wasted time and money. Asking players to check out the localisation on the testserver is a good start, but the overall timeframe there was way too short for proper checking IMO. Similar concerns were stated in the official thread by several people too.
Marcsens Lil'Helper Black Sheeps	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:13:00 - [18] Edited by: Marcsens Lil''Helper on 23/08/2006 10:15:28 Edited by: Marcsens Lil''Helper on 23/08/2006 10:13:12 Hi, i'm german myself and risked a look at the german version earlier today. It seems to me that it was done by people who never really played Eve themself. CCP said they did the translation to attract more people to Eve. Thats fine for me. But what bothers me is that they ask players to help improve the translation. Could you please tell me why i should and would contribute my labor for free to a commercial product?
George Petsch Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide ... a 'mundl' version would be great though at least for the 'voice' ... You, sir, just made my day. Austrian people, just imagine how a wrecking hit might be expressed in Austro-German in a special Vienna localisation: Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:16:00 - [20] Because you love the game? Otherwise they could hand out a free year subscription. ;)
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:20:00 - [21] Originally by: George Petsch Originally by: Ethidium Bromide ... a 'mundl' version would be great though at least for the 'voice' ... You, sir, just made my day. Austrian people, just imagine how a wrecking hit might be expressed in Austro-German in a special Vienna localisation: Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida. lol lustig, habe ich immer angeschaut. Jo und da Schane schpuit a mit.
Marcsens Lil'Helper Black Sheeps	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:20:00 - [22] Edited by: Marcsens Lil''Helper on 23/08/2006 10:21:36 Edited by: Marcsens Lil''Helper on 23/08/2006 10:20:04 Originally by: das licht Because you love the game? Otherwise they could hand out a free year subscription. ;) Imagine you loved cars, would you work for free for Daimler Crysler?
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:20:00 - [23] Edited by: Ethidium Bromide on 23/08/2006 10:21:33 Originally by: George Petsch Originally by: Ethidium Bromide ... a 'mundl' version would be great though at least for the 'voice' ... You, sir, just made my day. Austrian people, just imagine how a wrecking hit might be expressed in Austro-German in a special Vienna localisation: Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida. GOD! i just had to wipe tears of laughing from my face! market would be a good field too De Rostlaubn kost do mea ois des dreifoche ois normal! wnst den dreck wirklich kaufn? EDIT: i hope you don't mind me including that in my sig from now on Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:23:00 - [24] Originally by: Marcsens Lil'Helper Edited by: Marcsens Lil''Helper on 23/08/2006 10:21:36 Edited by: Marcsens Lil''Helper on 23/08/2006 10:20:04 Originally by: das licht Because you love the game? Otherwise they could hand out a free year subscription. ;) Imagine you loved cars, would you work for free for Daimler Crysler? From a buisness point of view ... I say no!
Victor Valka Caldari Terra Incognita	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:24:00 - [25] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide Edited by: Ethidium Bromide on 23/08/2006 10:21:33 Originally by: George Petsch Originally by: Ethidium Bromide ... a 'mundl' version would be great though at least for the 'voice' ... You, sir, just made my day. Austrian people, just imagine how a wrecking hit might be expressed in Austro-German in a special Vienna localisation: Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida. GOD! i just had to wipe tears of laughing from my face! market would be a good field too De Rostlaubn kost do mea ois des dreifoche ois normal! wnst den dreck wirklich kaufn? EDIT: i hope you don't mind me including that in my sig from now on Care for a literal translation so others can have a laught too? Localized software always makes me laught.
George Petsch Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Victor Valka Care for a literal translation so others can have a laught too? Localized software always makes me laught. Really depends from which country you are.. Translate the notify for a wrecking hit into your language, then apply a crude dialect of your choice. Dunno how well this works in other languages, german is really flexible when it comes to local dialects
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:30:00 - [27] this linky might help a little to get the point though Mundl Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
George Petsch Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:32:00 - [28] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide .... De Rostlaubn kost do mea ois des dreifoche ois normal! wnst den dreck wirklich kaufn? EDIT: i hope you don't mind me including that in my sig from now on ... Great stuff mate, hey CCP listen up! Me and Ethidium are doing the hardcore Austrian dialect translation! And yeah, put it in your sig, ppl WILL fear you
Verone	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:32:00 - [29] Ich mag Kuchen ... und Wnrste! \o/ BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
Victor Valka Caldari Terra Incognita	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:35:00 - [30] Originally by: George Petsch Originally by: Victor Valka Care for a literal translation so others can have a laught too? Localized software always makes me laught. Really depends from which country you are.. Translate the notify for a wrecking hit into your language, then apply a crude dialect of your choice. Dunno how well this works in other languages, german is really flexible when it comes to local dialects Let's not. Most (read: almost any) IT related technical terms including those used in games really don't translate well (read: at all) to my native language. I find attempts at it highly hilarious, tho. It's comedy gold!

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