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Loyal Servant
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Posted - 2006.08.28 05:26:00 -
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Okay......
When we get ganked by this queue crap because some of us in 0.0 have a damned GANK FLEET on my arse........ AND CANNOT ESCAPE.....
Can we file ship loss petitions? OR are you gunna say 'boo hoo too bad'?
Takes 2 months to get it back to boot!
I just got GANKED because of your STUPID QUEUE INTO A SYSTEM THAT HAD -0- DAMNED PEOPLE IN IT!
THAT IS NOT FAIR!
I was leaving a system with 5 people in it to a system with -0- people, but I have to wait 3 minutes?!!?!?!?!?
What is UP WITH THAT?
0.0 battles are TOTALLY NERFED!
DEMAND IT BE FIXED!
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Loyal Servant
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Posted - 2006.08.28 05:42:00 -
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Did it ever occur to you that part of fighting, is knowing when to run too?
What happens when you cannot run? you die.
We have been able to run in the past, now you cant run.
If there were 200 people in that other system, ok.
There was not, there were -0- people.
I know, I jumped in with my pod.
The loss isnt the issue, the issue is that NOWHERE in the patch notes did it say
that we were getting these really stupd, laggy queue things.
I am in a system in 0.0 that has 8 people in it, it takes like a minute to get
the ship fit screen, almost 2 minutes to undock....
Your pal is getting ganked at a gate, takes 2 minutes to undock to help him, he dies.
Prior to this patch, aside from the crashes, things were fine.
I would like to go back there.
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Loyal Servant
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Cornhole Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 13:28:00 -
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We did not need the queues......
I, for one am putting all activity on hold until this is resolved.
Moving in 0.0 is near impossible.... there is a frigin line to get into empty systems...unreal....
The silence is what is killing me here.
This thread has nearly surpassed any thread on the board and they just sit there and ignore us.
I don't see anyone posting in the 'great job CCP' thread, take a hint CCP.
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Cornhole Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 15:52:00 -
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Silence on this means 2 things to me:
1. they dont give a rats a--
2. they are waiting for this to be forgotten and a dead issue.
For me as a 0.0 citizen the game is ruined.
This means that just to potentially move around I need a battleship capable of tanking gate tyrant spawns.
A cruiser would not survive for more than a minute under the firepower of gate npc battleships.
Just this reason alone should be enough to pull the plug on this TOTALLY MORONIC feature.
I ask, will we get ships back when a damned npc warp scrambles you at a gate and you cant jump?
gotta wait 3 minutes....
I can see someone will get ganked by npc, and im sure they have already.
So, we as players can do several things:
1. cancel subscriptions (dont start your idiotic 'can i have your stuff' troll threads)
2. petition every loss you incur from this
3. petition that it gets changed (unlikely you will be heard)
Point is, as someone already posted.... someone ran the numbers and decided they needed to 'clamp' the userbase a little to control growth vs profit
What a better way to **** off the playerbase by throwing a
queue in, you will get old timers to leave, new players will come in and it will be there already, and they might not care about it.
I would love to know what kind of profit margins, all i ever read about is how much the crew at CCP loves the game, and profits didnt matter to them they just wanted to see their creation come to fruition, etc.
Bottom line, they got the cash now..
Game, pfft, who cares as long as I can line my pockets with gold.
Is that the case now, guys?
Because I cannot see anyone that 'loves' the game breaking it in horrid ways like this.
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Loyal Servant
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Cornhole Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 15:59:00 -
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I have taken the hint..
Q: When is it getting removed?
A: Never.
Q: Why?
A: Because they want the same codebase for both clusters
Q: Can you just turn it off?
A: Yeah, we can.
Q: Will you please turn off the stupic gate queue?
A: NOPE!
Q: Why?
A: Because we can stick 30,000 players on here with the queue on, and make $448,500/us a month vs. $418,600/us a month for only 28,000
See, thats $29,900/us more that we can pay that extra cook.
(they are hiring a cook, btw)
That is another salary right there.
Gotta pay the people somehow :)
Note: This is blatant speculation :)
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Posted - 2006.08.28 17:06:00 -
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Fact is, I don't want to gate camp anymore.
There is no sport in it when the guy has no chance of escape.
I don't want to sit at a gate knowing it is a sure gank.
If CCP wants people to venture into 0.0 - this effectively kills that idea.
Who wants to go to 0.0 when you have -0- chance of running from pirates in the pipe?
(yes, I gate camp, but I want the guy to have SOME chance of escape, keep the flames down and stay on the subject)
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Posted - 2006.08.28 18:27:00 -
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I think they are still on holiday.
Better for them to spend that hard earned ca$h while they have it.
I have talked to SO many people enemies and friends alike that are just STEAMING HOT MAD and I suspect there will be a protest, I have already heard rumors of mass marches on jita to bring the cluster to a stop... stuff like that.
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 20:13:00 -
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I have contacted CCP at the addresses listed on the contact page.
Contact CCP
I will post whatever answer I get, which is sure to be a form letter, automated response.
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 20:39:00 -
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As expected, form letter response recieved.
I suggest that everyone contact CCP and tell them what you think.
Be polite, explain the situation and any rational person will read it, understand your problems and your frustrations and hopefully this will expedite this issue.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 21:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Idaeus
Since I see that any attempt at mature debate or discussion will fail, I just want to point out but ladies and gentlemen that this is what happens when Mommy and Daddy give their pre-pubescent child their credit card and fail to monitor their internet activity.
And how do you know that mature debate or discussion will not take place?
What I see here, including myself, are tons of dissatisfied customers, upset players, you name it.
All these people want, is to play normally.
One thing I have noticed, is that not even forum moderators are touching this one.
It is obviously a sensitive issue for CCP right now.
CCP have admitted to poor communication in the past, what I don't get, is that they said at that time they would not allow it to get that bad again.
Thing is, we are at that level again, and passing it.
They have allowed this issue to snowball, and spiral downward and it is only going to get worse.
An official response is being requested, and they wont do it.
Like I said earlier, Contact CCP directly.
I have a feeling this forum has been written off.
It is not even being moderated at this point, I have been watching it.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jalia Kovac
Is there even one person here who would rather queue to jump than wait out some (potential) lag?
That's the thing.
We get lag *and* a queue.
We had the lag before, and coped with it (barely)
Now, we have queues and lag.
You figure it out. It's not that we have no lag but a queue, but we have BOTH now.
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Cornhole Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.29 13:37:00 -
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NOPE!
I got on briefly this morning, went to a gate and was queued.
nobody in the system next door, either.
Now, it did not say that 'traffic control was offline'
it said i was #1 in queue for like 2 minutes 44 seconds or some junk like that.
I have already been ganked once at a gate, and will file my petition.
Whether or not I get the ship back, I have no idea.
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Posted - 2006.08.29 13:46:00 -
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If this was being handled I would forget about the petition.
I simply would not bother with it....
Since they wont do anything about the queues, I feel justified in causing them pain and filing my petition.
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Cornhole Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.29 20:49:00 -
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It is official.
Fleet battles = nerfed
Gangs = nerfed
Travel in 0.0 = nerfed.
Pirates rejoice..... (i'm not - it's unfair to my targets.)
Figured that pirates would get an answer to the insta problem.
Now, no need to worry about that fat juicy hauler getting away, he will be queued!
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Posted - 2006.08.29 21:08:00 -
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There is no 'fix'
It is what it is.
Read the latest patch notes on the thursday patch.
CCP does not give a flying f--k what we think at this point.
I said it yesterday in this thread.
The reason it is being ignored is because it is here and here to stay.
Whether or not many others will put up with this is the question.
I can foresee a mass exodus of middle aged to older pvpers over this.
My new terms for the bugs, crashes and such: Eve Offline.
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Posted - 2006.08.30 03:27:00 -
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Never seen an EA MMO.
However, from what I have heard via word of mouth, it is not good.
Eve came to me word of mouth.
I cannot possibly recommend this to anyone in it's current state.
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Posted - 2006.08.30 03:43:00 -
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Ok, I have to post this....
In the interim of me posting here on the forums I have been in 0.0, in the catch region.
with a pal of mine.
We have been travelling together since this moronic queue thing.
It took us about 3 and one half hours to go about 30 jumps on instas because of the
queues. (THATS RIGHT KIDS!)
We ran into an AAA guy, and decided to try to catch him.
It was a 2 gate system, we trapped him in, in his frigate.
Know what the guy said to us in local?
'I know damned well that I will not get out of here alive because of the queues, even tho I have instas'
'So, guys, with respect, I must log on you.'
All I can say to the guy is,
'gf, good luck man... you will lose no respect from me for logging'
He will not, nor will anyone that logs on me.
What can he do... If he gets queued, he is dead meat.
Know what.....
I tried a gate, my partner tried a gate...
Both gates had a 3 minute queue.
That AAA guy would have been killed by us.
So, see why queues are a bad idea?
Guys will simply log instead of trying to run, and I DO NOT blame them.
PVP = dead.
Chinese farmers rejoice.....
Cornhole, Inc. - Cornholeing eve one system at a time.
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Posted - 2006.08.30 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tonkin
Your character is located within (VVO-R6), which has reached
maximum capacity. You are #1 in queue for entrance. Please try
again in a moment.
THER NO ONE SYSTEM FFS
JESUS CHRIST FFS FFS FFS FFS
I know where you are <grin>
I also know there is not a soul for over 5 jumps in either direction from there.
Been there.........
Live not far away......
This sucks...
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Posted - 2006.08.30 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tonkin
so by the time you to me mate i would of got married had 5 kids and be dead
Haha..... no kidding.
I am only like 15-20 jumps up the pipe.
It would take me until downtime to get there.
Pre-patch maybe 10 minutes.
Just make sure ASCN doesn't get ya, I think they have an NBSI policy in their space. :)
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Posted - 2006.08.30 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
agreed have had to do this a cuple of times lost a few pursuers tho that way and killed a couple stuck it cant be an exploit can it (another round of petitions after getting kiled not able to jump) logged on a few large gangs also trying to get out they are warping in cant jump right im outta here if i could have jumped fine but waiting 8 minutes in a dead system is not a good idea.
Perhaps an inactivity timer log off for another in a system with over 200 players if no data is recieved from player boot em after 40 minutes idle afk
Anything is better than the gate queue nonsense.
I tried to autopilot thru a queued gate and the autopilot failed to jump me.
It sat there and did nothing, autopilot on and all...
I even tried to manually pilot, and it naturally kicked off the autopilot and started moving again.
Hit jump, queued still.
Went to another gate, queued.
GOT TRAPPED?
Gunna start filing stuck petitions when I cant jump, screw it.
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Posted - 2006.08.30 04:55:00 -
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I heard over the wire some alliance just lost a capitol ship in providence because the cyno was in a system that had a queue, and they literally had to wait to jump, came under attack, was nos'd and could not jump..... could not cloak and was destroyed.
Can anyone verify this?
If this is indeed the case this is getting OUT OF HAND!
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Posted - 2006.08.30 16:21:00 -
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I have come to the conclusion that this last patch
is the doing of a marketing moron moreso than the developers.
Who is the ******* marketer at CCP that thought ths up?
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Posted - 2006.08.30 19:41:00 -
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What they do? delete the sticky regarding the patch notes?
Get too hot to handle, CCP?
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