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Jobie Thickburger
Gallente
Miner Guide to the Galaxy
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Posted - 2006.08.24 14:45:00 -
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Due to the nature of the Recent war in Providence, I began digging up experiments on Making an Anti-Interceptor Heavy ship. In my case a Battleship.
My Setup?
Amarr Armageddon class BS
Hi: 4x Med Ion Blasters (iridium) 1x Kenetic large Smartbomb, 3x Heavy NOS
MED: 2-str Warp Scrambler, 2x Webbifiers
Low: Dual Repairer tank, Including Damage Control Unit and other Resitance boosters.
12x (total) med Hammerhead Drones
I got my chance to test this on a Interceptor gang (3 of them) about a week ago.
Things seemd to work well at first, My NOSs managed to keep the Inties out of range of warp scramblers, Which was good, but also ment my Guns and Webbs wouldn't be able to catch them (bad) (OK, So setup fix 2 would be to fit longer ranged weapons, ACs I suppose). I ended up losing the BS only because I didn't begin Retreat procedures soon enough, They stoped me from warping the first time I tried, but didn't stay close enough to actually keep me pinned.
anyhow, Twas a good fight, and thanks OO for helping me discover what needed to be changed, and giving me a good run. Hope I at least managed to surprise yall a tad.
Anyhow, Anyone here tried a similar setup? Doesn't have to be a BS class, A Caracal with 5 assault luanchers seems like it would be a cheaper alternative In retrospective. What loadouts would make a good Anti-Ceptor?
Ship Classes I'm looking for...
Cruiser, BC, and BS.
Cruiser: Any race
BC: Any Race
BS: Amarr or Galante, Perfer to stay away from a drone intensive setup, although Feel free to share it as well.
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Bazman
Caldari
The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.08.24 14:49:00 -
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you should use a full rack of Medium Beam Lasers with multiple crystals for different ranges.
Personally, I jump in my 125athron when I know theres an enemy frigate fleet about, took on a 6 man frig and cruiser gang with it once and the only survivor was a Crow with 10% structure :p
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Nyxus
GALAXIAN
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.08.24 14:55:00 -
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Welding a Hughinn on the side of your Armageddon will radically increase your ceptor smashing abilities.
Weld an Arazu on the other side if you get tired of them warping out and for ship symmetry. A rook welded on top if you just want to massively destroy anything you come accross.
This welding is easily done with a small team of disposable brutors in space suits. When they are done welding just fly away while they are still on the hull since they are so cheap and eat too much.
Nyxus
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The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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Slevin Kalebra
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:00:00 -
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Standard missiles (the sort fired by assault launchers) will do pitiful damage vs. fast moving inties. Can't comment on the effectiveness of T2 equivalents though because I don't ave the skills to use them yet.
Try a Ferox fitted out with
hi: 2 med nos and 5 x 200mm / dual 150 railguns
med: tracking computer, large shield booster, T2 invul shield, webber, cap booster (or scrambler).
low: T2 tracking enhancer, T2 mag field stab, T2 PDU, DCU
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises
Babylon Project
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:06:00 -
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i'd say the new caldari BC (which is to be a missile boat) with a bunch of fof light missiles and assault launchers ..
but small lasers and an arma/apoc should also be fun
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Terraform
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:34:00 -
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my best defense against interceptors have always been a mix of rockets and NOS.
Of course fitting something like that on a BS or BC (ferox ftw) would be utterly ridiculous, but it usually gets the job done if you only want to take on frigs and the likes.
You can actually smash some cruisers in it also, but it requires them to come to you, which probably won't happen since you are a ferox :P
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:39:00 -
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Destroyers work decently
So do caracals.
Nighthawk does it's job very well to.
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Nyssa Dakalsai
Cosmic Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:42:00 -
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Sling a Curse in there and they'll be no mwd for those friggies
shield tank it and your away 
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Maya Rkell
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher
So do caracals.
Kinda. Let's say that I have a large assualt launcher II collection. And I didn't buy any.
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Max Teranous
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.24 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Audri Fisher
So do caracals.
Kinda. Let's say that I have a large assualt launcher II collection. And I didn't buy any.
Bah - I only ever seem to get malkuth heavy launchers 
To the OP: Go for small, long range guns rather than medium, short range guns. Keep the Nos. Also an MWD may help get you into range. Warrior II's are also a bugger for a ceptor - they're fast as hell.
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Knoppaz
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2006.08.24 16:58:00 -
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If you go for a BS add a heavy neutralizer to your list.
500+ cap neutralized in one shot will take care of any Ceptor.
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xenodia
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.08.24 17:00:00 -
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scorp with a bunch of webbers and sensor boosters might work, especially in conjunction with some NOS and maybe a target painter or 2 for cruises.
Used to work back in the days of the dual MWD rifters that went like 10k per second (signature radius wasnt an issue back then, but we didnt have target painters either).
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6Bagheera9
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Posted - 2006.08.24 17:42:00 -
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BS: 6x Smart Bomb 2x Nos Apoc with MWD, Domi with Light Drones
BC: Ferox with t2 standard precision
Cruiser: Caracal with t2 standard precision, Vexor/Arby with Light Drones, Sniping Moa (at range)
Destroyers: any
Frigs: Kestral
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Jenstruant Fogg
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Posted - 2006.08.24 17:45:00 -
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Maller:
5x Medium Beams (Multifrequency and Radio)
2x Webber
1x 20km Scram
2x 1600mm Plate
2x EANM
1x DCU
1x Heat Sink/Small Rep
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.24 17:52:00 -
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Sit two eagles 200km from each other and use spike.
Ceptors go after one, they get popped by the other.
They go after both, they get popped by both.
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Nicocat
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.24 21:28:00 -
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My cyclone with its usual setup (5 guns, 1 launcher, 2 Nos) or a specific anti-frig setup (5 guns, 3 assault launchers) works nicely on anything but a rocket crow. And I have a lot of luck against rocket crows with a Caracal.
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hattifnatt
Gallente
The Movement
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Posted - 2006.08.24 21:55:00 -
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Anti-ceptor caracal FTW 
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Shinon Asahina
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.24 22:08:00 -
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Flycatcher (Caldari Interdictor) is a good anti-ceptor AFAIK. Maybe not for 3 vs 1 ... but it has 475 base speed, 6 launcher hardpoints, and gets 2 missile bonuses on top of it ... pretty sure one is a precision bonus. Use Precision Light missiles if you are really worried about missing.
You pretty much have similar speeds to the Interceptor, twice the firepower, and a considerable amount better armored. Although slightly less agile I suppose.
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.24 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Audri Fisher
So do caracals.
Kinda. Let's say that I have a large assualt launcher II collection. And I didn't buy any.
But missiles are still overpowered, eh Maya? 
No need to reply, I'm just messin'...
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Sakura Nihil
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.25 00:37:00 -
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Minmatar recons are glorious in nailing interceptors - barring your ability to fly one or otherwise employ one, Caracals or Feroxes are what you're looking for, with target painters and either standard or heavy missiles.
I would recommend light drones if you have them as well, a swarm of them actually has prevented our targets from warping out before due to bumps  , and got stung to death.
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Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2006.08.25 02:01:00 -
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Tech1 a Domi does it best. Tech2 you've got endless options, from cruiser sniping to HACs to Recons. Take your pick there seriously.
3x Heavy Nos / 3x Light Neutron II
1x MWD / 1x 20km / 3x Multispec II (or 2x and 1x Conjunctive Magnetometric)
LARP II / Therm Hardener / Kin Hardener / Damage Control / EAN / 2x 1600mm
All tech1 except for the Light Neutron IIs and ECM. With a bit of AWU you can fit more nos there, but they're pretty handy to take out drones / closerange intys anyway. Don't need a webber to hit with them either.
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Icek Villawrov
Caldari
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.25 03:29:00 -
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You have two options when it comes to the cruiser class:
1. Duramaller
2. Arbitrator.
Maller:
5x Med pulse (small guns), 1x Med Nos
10MN AB, web, scram
med rep, 1600mm plate, N-type therm, explosive, and kinetic hardeners, EANM
Has been known to take on 2 interceptors at once.
Arbitrator:
3x Med Nos
Scram, web, 2x multispec ECM
med rep, damage control, 2x EANM
The ECM is your tank.
Both of these have been tested against interceptors.
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Liet Traep
Minmatar
Black Lance
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.25 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxus
This welding is easily done with a small team of disposable brutors in space suits. When they are done welding just fly away while they are still on the hull since they are so cheap and eat too much.
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LUKKAT
Gallente
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.25 05:29:00 -
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would an omen with t2 heavy pulse and scorch (21k range) have enough tracking for inties ?
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Kyuzo
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Posted - 2006.08.25 05:53:00 -
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the problem with heavies is they have a high targetting resolution.. so... although u might be able to track.. u still have a X% chance of missing simply cause an intys sig radius is way smaller then the turrents targetting res...
intys are very paper rocks scisors.... the best thing to take them out with is frigate guns... even light missiles could struggle against them... but then again... dual webbers will probably slow an inty down enough for t2 precisions to tear them a new *******... as well as let your turrets land hits reliably :)...
target painters might also help.. but not sure how much.. webbers r definately a priority in my book ... u just have to hope the inty sticks within 10kms...
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Heritor
Caldari
Polytope
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Posted - 2006.08.25 07:39:00 -
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Caracals...
You will not need very high skill points to kill an interceptor if set up with lights (Assaults are essential). To be able to kill two interceptors you will need moderate skills and finally to kill 3 interceptors you will need rather high leveled out skills.
All this will depend on your setup to achieve your kills...be aware that some interceptor pilots use EW this will limit your ability to kill multiple targets.
I have personally tried lots of ships and the caracal is by far the best for killing interceptors.
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Jobie Thickburger
Gallente
Miner Guide to the Galaxy
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:57:00 -
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Hmmm, A caracal may be a cheaper way to get around this. The NOS did great on keeping them from scramming me and keeping their MWD off. Was an expensive loss to lose that BS 
Thanks for the great suggestions. Time to play around a little
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Helpdesk
Caldari
The Patriot Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.26 14:12:00 -
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Rook works just fine. Was jumped on by 3 interceptors in my regular (heavy missile) fitting. Even multispec jammers work nearly 100% of the time on them, plus with web/20km/med nos they are not going to get away if they get below 10km (nos sucks their cap -> therefor no mwd, with web you can keep up with him).
It takes ages for heavy missiles to kill one, but with 1x Large shield extender you'll hold out just fine.
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Mr Peanut
The New Empire
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.26 14:51:00 -
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I know an alliance buddy who uses a vexor with three webs to own interceptors. They sometimes warp out because of no scramble, but sometimes they don't. Here are a two reasons why:
1. Many inty pilots, as an instinct, attempt to distance themselves from the enemy when they are in danger.
2. There is the "WTF HAPPENED TO MY TRANSVERSAL" effect.
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