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Xary
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Posted - 2006.08.24 23:09:00 -
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My question is for Solo Pvp and Group Pvp. How well do they perform? Are they worth it in your opnion? Have you pvp'd in them? Which one for which role?
Thanks
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Ginaz
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.24 23:34:00 -
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I recently killed a well fitted Dominix with my Lachesis. Another Pirate in Raven admited that he would have been toast but luckyly (for him) his mates showed up.
Lachesis is a very nice ship when you have a nice fitting. I haven't tried Arazu yet since i prefer Pilgrim (till nos and ecm gets nerfed) but i think Arazu can do the same but with little less dmg output (no launcher rof bonus)
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Xary
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Posted - 2006.08.25 02:26:00 -
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I take it you were solo. If you don't mind divulging how did you have yours fitted?
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vyperpit
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.08.25 02:37:00 -
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they can be ok solo, and only if you are fighting someone else who is solo [ie 1v1]
in which case if u damp them and stay out of their lock range, u will slowly kill them with 3 t2 missile launchers and 4medium t2 drones
a setup i tested but dont use because dont really like the ship, is
3x heavy t2 launchers, 2x 150mm T2
3x 20km. AB T2. 3x phased mauon
1600mm tungston, medium rep, exp hard
4x medium t2 therm drones
only problem is, if there is more than one target, unless very spaced out, you will not get a kill, and may die. another problem is that if ur target is faster than you, they can sometimes tank u long enough to get into range + lock
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locus 777
Gallente
RONA Deepspace
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Posted - 2006.08.25 03:13:00 -
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If you get killed by one solo in a Domi you are doing something horribly wrong. They are amazing in combination with a heavy hitter. Their role is to render the opponent inert with dampeners and scramblers while the heavy hitter takes them out.
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jamesw
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2006.08.25 04:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Ginaz
I recently killed a well fitted Dominix with my Lachesis. Another Pirate in Raven admited that he would have been toast but luckyly (for him) his mates showed up.
Lachesis is a very nice ship when you have a nice fitting. I haven't tried Arazu yet since i prefer Pilgrim (till nos and ecm gets nerfed) but i think Arazu can do the same but with little less dmg output (no launcher rof bonus)
Out of interest, how did you not get totally owned by his drones?
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xeom
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.25 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: jamesw
Originally by: Ginaz
I recently killed a well fitted Dominix with my Lachesis. Another Pirate in Raven admited that he would have been toast but luckyly (for him) his mates showed up.
Lachesis is a very nice ship when you have a nice fitting. I haven't tried Arazu yet since i prefer Pilgrim (till nos and ecm gets nerfed) but i think Arazu can do the same but with little less dmg output (no launcher rof bonus)
Out of interest, how did you not get totally owned by his drones?
I beleive with drones you need to lock at least once and order them to attack.If the domi can not get the orginal lock on him its over.Any normal battleship should have like a 100+ second lock time and 10k range/
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Celedris
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.25 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: jamesw
Out of interest, how did you not get totally owned by his drones?
The domi pilot didn't drop his drones out before he got locked & damped to death, and the drones just flew around aimlessly. At least thats my guess :)
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Orvas Dren
Gallente
The Nest
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Posted - 2006.08.25 04:16:00 -
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He got the damps on him before the drones were released. Its really quite easy to survive in an Arazu with proper tactics.
However the current known issue with cloaks being broken if a lock is started and then the ship cloaks is a problem. I have switched to my Lachesis in the mean-time, get a feel for the way they work.
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jamesw
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2006.08.25 04:18:00 -
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So basically the domi pilot was behaving like a noob.
... As I expected.
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Terraform
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.25 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: jamesw
So basically the domi pilot was behaving like a noob.
... As I expected.
How constructive, good thing you didn't make yourself look like an arse eh'? would be such a shame  anyway, Recons are evil, but definitly not an easy type of ship to fly.
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DarkElf
Caldari
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.08.25 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: jamesw
So basically the domi pilot was behaving like a noob.
... As I expected.
Oh stop sounding like a nub. domi lock time is much higher than the lachesis's so lachesis gets lock first. not a huge amount the domi could have done tbh.
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Shamis Orzoz
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:19:00 -
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they rule. Better in a small gang, but even solo they work.
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jamesw
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: jamesw
So basically the domi pilot was behaving like a noob.
... As I expected.
Oh stop sounding like a nub. domi lock time is much higher than the lachesis's so lachesis gets lock first. not a huge amount the domi could have done tbh.
DE
Not to detract from your statement, but lock time has nothing to do with it. If the domi launches its drones before the lachesis agresses - which it has more than enough time to do, then its drones will automatically return fire.
Call me a nub if you want, but thats one of the first lessons you (should) learn if you are flying a droneship. If you are going to get in a fight, make sure your drones are out before you get jammed or dampened.
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Jerick Ludhowe
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: jamesw
Not to detract from your statement, but lock time has nothing to do with it. If the domi launches its drones before the lachesis agresses - which it has more than enough time to do, then its drones will automatically return fire.
Call me a nub if you want, but thats one of the first lessons you (should) learn if you are flying a droneship. If you are going to get in a fight, make sure your drones are out before you get jammed or dampened.[/quote
Do you have any idea how quickly a Recon Ship locks a BS? If the Domi pilot was not paying extremely close attention to what was going on the Lachesis could warp in and damp him before he even really knew what was going on.
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Klaus Stoertebeker
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Klaus Stoertebeker on 25/08/2006 14:37:20
For a price below 40 mil isk, you cant do much wrong by getting a lachesis. :)
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 25/08/2006 14:39:55
Yeah, James is right in that a smart Dom pilot dumps out drones at the first sign of danger -- but as noted above, recons lock battleships fast, it's quite possible that you simply don't have time to launch drones fast enough.
I personally love the Lachesis (and Arazu). Solo ships they are not, but in a small gang they are quite evil. As an added bonus, they are not all that popular so you can get them dirt cheap, comparatively (well, Lachesis anyway). Lachesis is probably my favorite small-gang pvp ship at the moment.
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Maya Rkell
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:39:00 -
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Lachesis is just nifty, IME.
In a small HAC/Recon gang, they rock.
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jamesw
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:50:00 -
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indeed.
Don't get me wrong I love my Arazu - just I always seem to get the smart ones, and end up with 5 heavies chasing me out of the fight 
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Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.25 15:01:00 -
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Nah IMO lachesis sucks for solo cause of its split weapon systems and split bonus' (to missles and hybrids). On the other hand it has the highest number of med slots for a gallente ship and a RSD bonus + a warp scram range bonus which makes it a very desirable support ship both in gangs and big fleets (1600mm tungsten + 6 RSD II + SB II > scorp + ECM).
For solo though I'd choose the azaru over the lachesis anyday really, its just the cost of the cov-op cloak these days that force ppl to use non-cloakers, and lachesis is really cheap compared to the rest.
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Nyxus
GALAXIAN
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.08.25 15:05:00 -
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In a gang these things RULE. For anyone who hates stabbies or ravens that shoot ECM from 80km, Gallente recons are a godsend.
Nyxus
Originally by: Tux
The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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xenodia
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.08.25 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Xary
My question is for Solo Pvp and Group Pvp. How well do they perform? Are they worth it in your opnion? Have you pvp'd in them? Which one for which role?
Thanks
With the range advantage and dampeners, you can do quite a bit with a solo Arazu... provided youre in a situation where your lowish DPS isnt a problem (like the target doesnt have a lot of reinforcements in system).
A good portion of the Arazu's damage comes from drones, so if you dont have time to deploy them, you have just 3 gun slots (4th being the co cloak).
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xenodia
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.08.25 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: jamesw
Originally by: Ginaz
I recently killed a well fitted Dominix with my Lachesis. Another Pirate in Raven admited that he would have been toast but luckyly (for him) his mates showed up.
Lachesis is a very nice ship when you have a nice fitting. I haven't tried Arazu yet since i prefer Pilgrim (till nos and ecm gets nerfed) but i think Arazu can do the same but with little less dmg output (no launcher rof bonus)
Out of interest, how did you not get totally owned by his drones?
If the domi didnt already have drones deployed, he probably wouldnt have been able to use them as hed be dampened down to a lock on range of roughly 14km, and the recon was probably sitting at 30k+.
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Lord Vigil
Amarr
LEGION OF DEATHADDERS
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Vigil on 25/08/2006 17:10:28
Ok, I'm thinking about going the route of the recon ship. But which in your opinion would be better.
Curse or the Pilgram and what possible setups for them.
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Argos Dorsen
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:20:00 -
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I love my Lachesis. Its my favorite ship thus far. Yeah, I don't fit mine to do ungodly amounts of dmg, not its role. I fit a drone link, medium nos, and 3xnamed assault launchers. That and the drones make it very effective against frigs. I've also found that it is excellent for solo hauler ganking in 0.0. 5x36km scrams make bestowers very very unhappy, and the drones and missiles are more than adaqute to pop one quickly. My CEO used his to catch a deimos once, and kept it there for almost 10 minutes, while I rushed to get to him to help finish the guy off.
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xenodia
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Argos Dorsen
I love my Lachesis. Its my favorite ship thus far. Yeah, I don't fit mine to do ungodly amounts of dmg, not its role. I fit a drone link, medium nos, and 3xnamed assault launchers. That and the drones make it very effective against frigs. I've also found that it is excellent for solo hauler ganking in 0.0. 5x36km scrams make bestowers very very unhappy, and the drones and missiles are more than adaqute to pop one quickly. My CEO used his to catch a deimos once, and kept it there for almost 10 minutes, while I rushed to get to him to help finish the guy off.
I could have had a solo raven kill in my arazu the other day if Id had a bit more DPS. Had him dampened and war scrambled from 45km out, but didnt have the ability to web him, so he was able to tank my damage long enough to get to the gate and escape before I could call in anyone with more firepower.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
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Posted - 2006.08.25 18:03:00 -
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The gallente recons should also be the best anti-recons. Even the rather high targeting range of a rook gets reduced to 10 km with 3 t2 damperners at max skills. And isn't chance based.
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xenodia
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.08.25 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
The gallente recons should also be the best anti-recons. Even the rather high targeting range of a rook gets reduced to 10 km with 3 t2 damperners at max skills. And isn't chance based.
Will come down to who locks who first.
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Vera Nosfyu
Minmatar
Stormriders
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Posted - 2006.08.25 20:10:00 -
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The Lachesis, and Azaru even more so, also has a nice surprise factor. Maybe a month ago I was ratting in my Wolf out in Providence, I saw a crusier show up on overview about 30km away. I thought "okay, I have a little time before he can scram me, I'll just grab this can and warp away." His icon flashed red and I tried to warp thinking "Hah! Silly noob! Sprung his trap too early!" And, well, I didn't warp. The moral of the story is: The Lachesis and Azaru are both great ships for beating up on silly noobs like me who don't check info on ships in the overview.
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.08.25 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: vyperpit
they can be ok solo, and only if you are fighting someone else who is solo [ie 1v1]
in which case if u damp them and stay out of their lock range, u will slowly kill them with 3 t2 missile launchers and 4medium t2 drones
a setup i tested but dont use because dont really like the ship, is
3x heavy t2 launchers, 2x 150mm T2
3x 20km. AB T2. 3x phased mauon
1600mm tungston, medium rep, exp hard
4x medium t2 therm drones
only problem is, if there is more than one target, unless very spaced out, you will not get a kill, and may die. another problem is that if ur target is faster than you, they can sometimes tank u long enough to get into range + lock
That setup wont work, you cap will be fried. And no i aint posting my setup 
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