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ElCoCo
Gallente KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:03:00 -
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Lies! It's 6 stabs! (due to CPU limitations) |

Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Drasked Your kidding right?? If you call ginger magician a "real pirate" then you really dont know what the hell your talking about.
What is a real pirate anyway?
Originally by: Drasked And as for being obsessed with him.. He is obsessed with himself and we just make fun of him for that.
We all are obsessed with our self importance. Ginger just likes to rub it in the face, and people hate that.
Originally by: Drasked Ginger magician is a true example of a persona that thinks he is everything while in reallity he is near to nothing.
What the person behind ginger actually does and does not think, we dont know and we cant know.
Originally by: Drasked And you just called solo sniping in a bs hard... aaah sorry.. you must have been kidding afterall.
Solo snipers are certanly the easiest ones to catch. Its just that most people who try to catch them have no clue what they are doing.
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Drasked
Total Failure
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Drasked Your kidding right?? If you call ginger magician a "real pirate" then you really dont know what the hell your talking about.
What is a real pirate anyway?
Originally by: Drasked And as for being obsessed with him.. He is obsessed with himself and we just make fun of him for that.
We all are obsessed with our self importance. Ginger just likes to rub it in the face, and people hate that.
Originally by: Drasked Ginger magician is a true example of a persona that thinks he is everything while in reallity he is near to nothing.
What the person behind ginger actually does and does not think, we dont know and we cant know.
Originally by: Drasked And you just called solo sniping in a bs hard... aaah sorry.. you must have been kidding afterall.
Solo snipers are certanly the easiest ones to catch. Its just that most people who try to catch them have no clue what they are doing.
Ok ok.. the real pirate thing is a bit hard to say but i can say that ginger magician is further away from being a "real pirate" then a LOT of other people.
And your telling me you cant tell from how someone is talking to you how they think about themself, and then im not talking about a normal conversation but him threatening people and the way he is doing it. He either thinks he is everything or roleplays he is everything, either way the character Ginger magician thinks he is everything.
Actually the people who are sniping and are getting caught are the clueless ones, its extreemly hard to get caught sniping if you know what your doing and extreemly easy to get caught sniping if you dont. (i think it depends a lot on how paranoia you are)
Solo snipers are deffinitly NOT the easyest targets in the game. Retards are.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris Good job.
I'll never know why MENTL took Ginger in, affirmative action maybe...
The mentally challenged aren't covered by Affermitive Action.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: eve warrior
Originally by: Matt'Guitar'Murphy You are talking about the "Ginger Magician" that fits 7 WCS on his Mega? LMAO
I am no Ginger fan but i have see him kill bs with his mega and 6 wcs. Yes he is arrogent and smacktalks like no other, but he is one of the True Pirate in eve. Someone that done not cear who he kills, how old they are, what ships they fly.
You ppl seem to be obsessed with him for some reason so he must be doing something right to **** to many ppl off. Pirates are not supposted to be Loved, in fact they are to be dispised and hated by all.
Alot of ppl might dish him, but Been -5 to -10 and flying around in a BS when solo (sniping or not) is not easy. Expecialy since recon ships came out.
These days 95% of all -5 to -10 guys i bump into that are flying solo are in frigs and tech 1 crusers.
Eve warrior
True pirates fly with more stabss than God and sit aligned to safespots?
Thank god people like Verone aren't 'real pirates' then.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.25 18:02:00 -
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And people don't like Ginger not because he rubs his crappy kills in our faces, but because he's a giant turd. Most people with an ego even a fraction of the size of his have earned it. While I can understand that some people think that gatesniping, and getting dozen of newbie kills makes them a badass, or a good pvper, it doesn't.
When he does something noteworthy, I'll pat him on the back. Until then, I'll just keep slapping him in the face for his 'uber kills' and 'great pvp skills' that are on par with the average mission runner.
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Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.25 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Drasked And your telling me you cant tell from how someone is talking to you how they think about themself, and then im not talking about a normal conversation but him threatening people and the way he is doing it. He either thinks he is everything or roleplays he is everything, either way the character Ginger magician thinks he is everything.
Hes using the cheapest publicity stunt in history. When he runs out of stuff to flame he starts spouting random nonsense just to provoke a reaction.
Personally, i think that hes in this just for smack. Once everyone shuts up and ignores him, he just packs up and leaves.
Originally by: Drasked Actually the people who are sniping and are getting caught are the clueless ones, its extreemly hard to get caught sniping if you know what your doing and extreemly easy to get caught sniping if you dont. (i think it depends a lot on how paranoia you are)
Hardest people to catch are the ones who dont stay in one system. Catching pirates who roam is hard since you have no clue where they are or where they will expose themselves.
Easiest people to catch are those who always show up at predictable locations. Catching a sniper who just ganks all day in the same system is easy. Sniper being aligned doesnt matter against experienced cov ops.
Originally by: Drasked Solo snipers are deffinitly NOT the easyest targets in the game. Retards are.
Noobs are not retarded, just inexperienced.
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Drasked
Total Failure
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Posted - 2006.08.25 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Drasked And your telling me you cant tell from how someone is talking to you how they think about themself, and then im not talking about a normal conversation but him threatening people and the way he is doing it. He either thinks he is everything or roleplays he is everything, either way the character Ginger magician thinks he is everything.
Hes using the cheapest publicity stunt in history. When he runs out of stuff to flame he starts spouting random nonsense just to provoke a reaction.
Personally, i think that hes in this just for smack. Once everyone shuts up and ignores him, he just packs up and leaves.
Originally by: Drasked Actually the people who are sniping and are getting caught are the clueless ones, its extreemly hard to get caught sniping if you know what your doing and extreemly easy to get caught sniping if you dont. (i think it depends a lot on how paranoia you are)
Hardest people to catch are the ones who dont stay in one system. Catching pirates who roam is hard since you have no clue where they are or where they will expose themselves.
Easiest people to catch are those who always show up at predictable locations. Catching a sniper who just ganks all day in the same system is easy. Sniper being aligned doesnt matter against experienced cov ops.
Originally by: Drasked Solo snipers are deffinitly NOT the easyest targets in the game. Retards are.
Noobs are not retarded, just inexperienced.
Just read the convo between insaniac and ginger carefully word for word, at the time ginger is thinking that this corp is no big deal since it has no allaince and only 15 members.. scare tactics time, and here it is clearly demonstrated how he thinks or roleplays he is everything.
(trying to quote some things from this convo i just found out that it has been snipped out, thus rendering the entire thread useless, gg forum mods)
Hardest people to catch are smart people, being hard to catch doesnt have a whole lot to do with switching systems (altho it does help) Your basicly classing snipers as easy targets becouse you assume that they dont roam, you assume that they are going to sit on 1 spot untill a cov-op lands ontop of them, you assume they have no clue about who is trying to get a spot on them.
It is ofcourse possible to catch every sniper in the game no matter how paranoid or good they are but they are far from being the easyest targets, in fact trying to kill a sniper takes a lot more time and effort then roaming around in 0.0 killing off npc'ers (but killing a sniper is often more fun if you succeed)
And retards are a lot easyer target then noobs simply becouse noobs are usually aware of the fact that they are noob and retards are often not aware of the fact that they are retarded. (and i was not classifying noobs as retards, wich you assumed i was)
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.08.25 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tekka I ran into Ginger once.
Yet he wouldn't fight me 
Didn't think you undocked yourself, but I could be wrong. 
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Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.25 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Drasked Just read the convo between insaniac and ginger carefully word for word, at the time ginger is thinking that this corp is no big deal since it has no allaince and only 15 members.. scare tactics time, and here it is clearly demonstrated how he thinks or roleplays he is everything.
(trying to quote some things from this convo i just found out that it has been snipped out, thus rendering the entire thread useless, gg forum mods)
Stupid rule really. I do want to read a decent convo from time to time.
Originally by: Drasked Hardest people to catch are smart people, being hard to catch doesnt have a whole lot to do with switching systems (altho it does help) Your basicly classing snipers as easy targets becouse you assume that they dont roam, you assume that they are going to sit on 1 spot untill a cov-op lands ontop of them, you assume they have no clue about who is trying to get a spot on them.
It is ofcourse possible to catch every sniper in the game no matter how paranoid or good they are but they are far from being the easyest targets, in fact trying to kill a sniper takes a lot more time and effort then roaming around in 0.0 killing off npc'ers (but killing a sniper is often more fun if you succeed)
You assume about what you think that i assume? 
In the end, most snipers frequent the same high traffic systems. If you do some preparations while they are not online, its easy to get ahead of them.
Originally by: Drasked And retards are a lot easyer target then noobs simply becouse noobs are usually aware of the fact that they are noob and retards are often not aware of the fact that they are retarded. (and i was not classifying noobs as retards, wich you assumed i was)
I actually laughed when i read this part.
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Solarflare Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.25 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cordt
Originally by: Rikkard Strofeldt There is a way to get enough scram strength while solo. How? Well, that would be telling 
And all you need is a Raven 125km away.
Hahahaha *wipes tears*
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Drasked
Total Failure
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Posted - 2006.08.25 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Drasked on 25/08/2006 19:32:13
Originally by: Nahia Senne You assume about what you think that i assume? 
In the end, most snipers frequent the same high traffic systems. If you do some preparations while they are not online, its easy to get ahead of them.
The prepartions you have to make in order to have a good chance of catching a sniper cost a lot more effort then the preperations the sniper has to make to minimize the chance of being caught, this makes them a less easy target compared to others.
I must agree with you that some snipers are increadably predictable and require hardly any effort to kill, but this does not class the entire "sniping profession" as an easy target.
You simply have good and bad snipers, as in all forms of pvp you have people who are good and people who are bad at what they do. People who are bad are easy targets people who are good are not easy targets.
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vickers
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Posted - 2006.08.25 20:12:00 -
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well i picked up ginger down in hagular when we had a war in that area whith a corp. he actualy is not as bad on vent as in local and i have tryed to reform his wcs smacking ways .and i thort i was having some sucsess untill i was directed to this and similar posts about his behavior .in light of this i have decided to boot ginger from my corp not as a result of who he has ****ed of but simply for the crime of bringing my corp in to disrepute .we are not wcs *****'s or smacktalkers and such ppl are not welcome in the mental house
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sgt spike
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2006.08.25 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: vickers well i picked up ginger down in hagular when we had a war in that area whith a corp. he actualy is not as bad on vent as in local and i have tryed to reform his wcs smacking ways .and i thort i was having some sucsess untill i was directed to this and similar posts about his behavior .in light of this i have decided to boot ginger from my corp not as a result of who he has ****ed of but simply for the crime of bringing my corp in to disrepute .we are not wcs *****'s or smacktalkers and such ppl are not welcome in the mental house
qft
i have personally had the pleasure of being at war with mentl (about a year ago)
there was no smack, good tactics, no stabwhoring, and plenty of fun
respect to mentl
can you put a price on peace?
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.08.25 22:27:00 -
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This truly is a great day. I shall go light fireworks and possibly blow my hand off in celebration. ---------- My sig is boring. |

GPerson
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2006.08.25 22:54:00 -
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For everyone else like me who only say this thread after the chat had been cut out, go look at this thread on eve-search. Chribba's software doesn't copy any edits made to a post.
For the lazy.
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Rigsta
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.08.25 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cordt
Originally by: Rikkard Strofeldt There is a way to get enough scram strength while solo. How? Well, that would be telling 
And all you need is a Raven 125km away.
Rofles. ----------------------------------------------- CRY HAVOC! And let slip the combat drones! To meander aimlessly towards your target... Perhaps stopping for a picnic along the way... And then turn |

Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.25 23:06:00 -
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Ginger who?

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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2006.08.26 00:30:00 -
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I had the pleasure of meeting ginger once, whilst I was a happy little noob living around Otou.
An hour of my life wasted. Worst person I've met in eve so far. In attitude and vocabulary. --------------------------------------------- I nerfed my own sig :( I helped - Cortes [green]Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes |

Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.26 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Drasked And retards are a lot easyer target then noobs simply becouse noobs are usually aware of the fact that they are noob and retards are often not aware of the fact that they are retarded. (and i was not classifying noobs as retards, wich you assumed i was)
I actually laughed when i read this part.

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GandolftheWhite
Gallente Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.26 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: vickers well i picked up ginger down in hagular when we had a war in that area whith a corp. he actualy is not as bad on vent as in local and i have tryed to reform his wcs smacking ways .and i thort i was having some sucsess untill i was directed to this and similar posts about his behavior .in light of this i have decided to boot ginger from my corp not as a result of who he has ****ed of but simply for the crime of bringing my corp in to disrepute .we are not wcs *****'s or smacktalkers and such ppl are not welcome in the mental house
For what it is worth, /Respect.
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KilROCK
Minmatar Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.26 05:39:00 -
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Yawn, I may have smacked Mentally unstable enterprises calling them 'a joke' by saying replying to this.
"well you haven't seen what our corp can do" and, replied. "Well, I don't know but you sure make your corp look like a joke"
But hey, I don't care if we got war decced. Our corp is mostly seasoned pvpers, mostly inactive these days.
Malecoda might have said "this will be fun", i don't care about any of you guys to be really honest.
Ginger is a self-proclaimed master of EVE, I've killed him, many of my close enemies killed him. He hasn't shut up yet, i don't care.
ANDE has nothing to prove when it comes to fighting. Ginger is all we wanted to shut up and he did say "my corp will crush you!1111" and "the last corp we wardecced, they all lost their battleships and pods!11!".
I have business to attend to, I'm bored of EVE. I don't need to get annoying by a couple of falcons, gistii mwd crows and deep safe spot people waiting for something to happen.
I rate this war "Useless" Since i'm not even around.
Have fun 
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Franky B
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.26 07:53:00 -
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oh, and dont mind vickers's spelling. english is not his native language...
well actually it is, but he just cant spell.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.26 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: vickers well i picked up ginger down in hagular when we had a war in that area whith a corp. he actualy is not as bad on vent as in local and i have tryed to reform his wcs smacking ways .and i thort i was having some sucsess untill i was directed to this and similar posts about his behavior .in light of this i have decided to boot ginger from my corp not as a result of who he has ****ed of but simply for the crime of bringing my corp in to disrepute .we are not wcs *****'s or smacktalkers and such ppl are not welcome in the mental house
5*s!
Also, isn't that Verone's form you guys use for pk?
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.26 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
5*s!
Also, isn't that Verone's form you guys use for pk?
Verone borrowed the idea himself AFAIK.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.26 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Originally by: Deja Thoris Good job.
I'll never know why MENTL took Ginger in, affirmative action maybe...
Well I think their corp name gives it away Deja 
GM thinks hes good coz he has 2000 or whatever ship kills which I dont doubt however pods and shuttles in my opinion dont count, I really do some times wonder if hes roleplaying an large ego charc or if he really believes it.
He has to be role playing. Seriously, how else can you explain someone being that stupid and being capable of operating a PC? care assistance? -----------------
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.08.27 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
5*s!
Also, isn't that Verone's form you guys use for pk?
Verone borrowed the idea himself AFAIK.
Incorrect, I wrote during my early days in Snigg, posted it on their forums and a lot of people seemed to like it, when I founded Veto, I pasted it to our forums and continued it's use there.
It seems it has become quite popular for people to use it as an accurate method of response to being pirated 
Glad people liked it so much, that's why I made it although I'd advise aganist posting it on Eve-O or linking to it, as the profanity tends to get you into trouble. ♥
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.08.27 00:26:00 -
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Russie
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Posted - 2006.08.27 04:31:00 -
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Okay, that was the 4th post of mine that has been deleted for no apparent reason. What is going on.... jeez
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Devian 666
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Posted - 2006.08.27 06:18:00 -
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I have the solution for Ginger Magician. Someone buy him a Geddon. Fit 8 warp stabs, 8 lasers and the 3 mid slots will allow him to retain his current sniping accuracy.
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