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Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
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Posted - 2014.11.07 01:10:09 -
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If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.
Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly. |

Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1619
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Posted - 2014.11.07 01:17:08 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.
Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly. last i heard they dont reimburse iskbox kills |

Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD Shadow Cartel
43
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Posted - 2014.11.07 01:54:44 -
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We still rumor mongering about this crap? There has been like multiple posts from Fozie about this. |

Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
251
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Posted - 2014.11.07 02:04:14 -
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Rowells wrote:Nolak Ataru wrote:If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.
Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly. last i heard they dont reimburse iskbox kills
The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you.
Eldwinn wrote:We still rumor mongering about this crap? There has been like multiple posts from Fozie about this.
Fozzie has claimed that policies haven't changed, however the multiboxer community would like to disagree. |

Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1621
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Posted - 2014.11.07 03:10:39 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:Rowells wrote:Nolak Ataru wrote:If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.
Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly. last i heard they dont reimburse iskbox kills The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you. links please |

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
240
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Posted - 2014.11.07 04:00:00 -
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Why would CCP want to ENCOURAGE more multibox ganking? The fact that some victims are getting reimbursed suggests they are unhappy with it, but don't know how to properly tackle it. |

Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
251
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Posted - 2014.11.07 04:13:09 -
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Rowells wrote:Nolak Ataru wrote:Rowells wrote:Nolak Ataru wrote:If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.
Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly. last i heard they dont reimburse iskbox kills The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you. links please https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/ http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg |

13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2014.11.07 05:50:56 -
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It represents a real imbalance between players. You can't fight multiboxing without doing it yourself, which forces the hand of people to pay RL money to compete through their own accounts. The solution of "bring friends" is a bit ridiculous if the multiboxer also brings his friends who also multibox. Short of paying for more accounts to do it yourself, it's a permanent imbalance gained through another player spending extra money in real life. That sounds pay to win. It's a problem for CCP because they want the sub money, and they have no good way of saying that it's bad for the game that won't rock the boat. After all, people with so many extra accounts pay the majority of Eve, not the people who only play one account. On the other hand, when this unfair scenario is easily detected by players with only one account, they will get pissed off and leave unless reimbursed. CCP knows this or they wouldn't reimburse.
Kudos for providing the hilarious km and screen shot. Hope that deals effectively with the people saying its just rumors.
[quote] So 50 retreivers and 1 ganker walk into a bar, and the ganker turns to all the retreivers and says "I know how to play this game, you're wrong, now give me your money and then let me blow you up". That's the joke. [/quote]
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
3068
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Posted - 2014.11.07 06:56:30 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Why would CCP want to ENCOURAGE more multibox ganking? The fact that some victims are getting reimbursed suggests they are unhappy with it, but don't know how to properly tackle it.
Like this:
"The use of ISBoxer is officially prohibited. Please see this dev blog for more information. Comments can be left in this forum thread." |

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
890
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Posted - 2014.11.07 07:09:17 -
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Tinkerhell won't like that. Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this.  |
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Miromme Echerie
Laughing Coffin's
3
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Posted - 2014.11.07 07:31:09 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Tinkerhell won't like that.  Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this.  Spawn it in the anchorers current station? Or throw it in a corp hangar? |

Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
349
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Posted - 2014.11.07 07:35:51 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Tinkerhell won't like that.  Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this. 
That picture means nothing. He could have easily lost another ship due to the servers taking a dump. There is nothing in that mail that links that reimbursement to that vindicator that was ganked. From there, there is no proof that the reimbursement was because the people doing the ganking were even using isboxer, or because of something else.
Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
890
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Posted - 2014.11.07 07:39:00 -
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Miromme Echerie wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Tinkerhell won't like that.  Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this.  Spawn it in the anchorers current station? Or throw it in a corp hangar?
LOL. No. Replace the currently anchored MOROS tower.
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VTyx Soul
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
24
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:14:37 -
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They do not reimburse for isboxing, I've spoken to replicator many times on teamspeak and he has never heard of reimbursement, it seems to be just a rumour |

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
890
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:40:01 -
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VTyx Soul wrote:They do not reimburse for isboxing, I've spoken to replicator many times on teamspeak and he has never heard of reimbursement, it seems to be just a rumour Awww! 
On the other hand: Good that they don't, it's a very slippery-slope. 
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Gaiden R
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
10
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:45:17 -
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/ http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg[/quote]
Tinkerhell won't like that. Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this. [/quote] Spawn it in the anchorers current station? Or throw it in a corp hangar?[/quote]
LOL. No. Replace the currently anchored MOROS tower. [/quote]
i didnt realize that running 5 client without isboxer was something that hurt your feelings ?
also im not tinker hell but i however do often feild 4 client at the same time agaisnt your "fleets" lol ?
does that mean everytime you die you want to get re imburrsed i just think you are a little but hurt :=) |

TinkerHell
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
138
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:32:27 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Tinkerhell won't like that.  Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this. 
I dont use isboxer. |

Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
486
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Posted - 2014.11.07 10:57:24 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:Rowells wrote:Nolak Ataru wrote:Rowells wrote:Nolak Ataru wrote:If a ship is ganked by an ISBoxer, and is subsequently reimbursed because the player used ISBoxer, reimburse the ganker's ships as well.
Simple change, since CCP doesn't want to own up to the fact that they dislike ISBoxer PVP, or that they have GMs that have hateboners for ISBoxer and reimburse willy-nilly. last i heard they dont reimburse iskbox kills The rorqual lost to Replicator and Skyrider Deathknight's Vindicator would like to have a word with you. links please https://zkillboard.com/kill/41817646/ http://i.imgur.com/VcK9nh3.jpg
20 minutes from getting killed to reimbursement? Na man, fake. |

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
890
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Posted - 2014.11.07 11:52:13 -
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TinkerHell wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Tinkerhell won't like that.  Now we can reimburse our towers lost to his multiboxed horde, I wonder how CCP is going to do this.  I dont use isboxer. It's not like I would need to resort to this kind of methods in the first place; neither multiboxing to such a scale (as we have enough active members to fill our fleets), nor petitioning (as we are not 5 year olds). Though, other people in this game are not as civilized as we are. Gaiden, for instance, you really should teach him better spelling and grammar, and how to quote correctly.  |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
768
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Posted - 2014.11.07 12:15:41 -
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noone can multibox more than 3 clients at same time in combat. And even that is already very hard to do. I think CCP is very well able to recognize isbotters reliably, technically (click speed and click positions across clients) and visually.
Multiboxing is fine as such but not in automated manner like provided by isbotter, use of such tools should be punished with temp ban and permanent ban on 2nd attempt. |
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