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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:23:29 -
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So a wormhole that has landmarks in it alongside a static connection to K space.
Thera sounds alot like Terra.
Are we going home?
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Luwc
Confederation of Independent Contractors Swamphole
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:30:35 -
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meh one big group will just claim it for themselves
also no capitals and pos so meh.
Sounds like a waste of development ressources to me.
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Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:32:12 -
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The fix to the blue doughnut:
A) Ignore the blue doughnut. B) N/A
I'm not sure how often CCP focuses on lore. I didn't imagine it would have such an impact on GD. Thera this, Thera that. Will we get home, will Earth humans be cyborgs. Will they eat our babies, weaponize capsuleers, bring forth the destruction of EVE cluster, will there be a war. Will PVE be great. Tags tags tags. |

Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1519
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:41:57 -
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Loads of wormhole systems have static k-space connections. I reckon it will be the research hub for the new stargates, maybe including the first player-built one.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1860
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:42:37 -
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Luwc wrote:meh one big group will just claim it for themselves
also no capitals and pos so meh.
Sounds like a waste of development ressources to me.
You mean all the 30 minutes that takes to add a new system to the game?
And without capitals the large groups are unable to claim it. All the large groups are lazy dudes thatlost their small gang warfare skills long ago.
It will be like he claims, mos esley, full of criminals. Make the station guns themselves extra powerful and you keep things under moderate control.
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Sorao Soreen
Bear Bones Brigade The Bastards.
41
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:56:00 -
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can you say insta locking station camps 24/7 |

sereneabt
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:59:51 -
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I am really curious on how CCP plans to balance this. I mean it cannot be to goal to have this new system just for ganking purposes, right?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5630
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:21:24 -
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I for one welcome... ah... forget it
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Christopher AET
hirr Northern Coalition.
825
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:21:49 -
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Well if you don't like it don't go there.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2185
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:29:25 -
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Well actually.
The point of this topic was that Thera might lead back to our original solar system and earth...
Thera = Terra.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5630
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:30:24 -
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I had a friend named "Thera".
He's dead now. 
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2185
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:46:58 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I had a friend named "Thera". He's dead now.  Thats ruff, man.
I guess the system will have a bittersweet feel for you.
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Ama Scelesta
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:50:02 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Well actually.
The point of this topic was that Thera might lead back to our original solar system and earth...
Thera = Terra. Or it might not. Why not go with the more likely option of Thera=Thera? The leap to Terra is only the difference of a few letters, but it's still a leap for no particular reason. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2185
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:51:58 -
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Ama Scelesta wrote:KuroVolt wrote:Well actually.
The point of this topic was that Thera might lead back to our original solar system and earth...
Thera = Terra. Or it might not. Why not go with the more likely option of Thera=Thera? The leap to Terra is only the difference of a few letters, but it's still a leap for no particular reason.
Either way the stations will have to come from somewhere in the lore.
Might be sleeper stations, or jove stations.
Might be Terra stations, I'm just theorycrafting here.
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Kohiko Sun
Stormcrows
82
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:54:24 -
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You found space Atlantis. |

Aram Kachaturian
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
133
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Posted - 2014.11.07 10:05:16 -
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February 2014: " A real new region to explore. Not wormhole, something bigger, more exciting and less unstable. My idea for this new region is giving the opportunity to everyone to be like the great explorers, visite unique landscapes and find a corner to build colonies. With a specific mechanic to avoid blocs/supremacy." Aram Kachaturian, CSM Candidate
November 2014: " Thera is to be a hybrid wormhole system with unique mechanics combining aspects of wormhole, nullsec, and lowsec space. No capital ships or POS will be allowed or built within this system [...] attractive to alliances on deployments, sightseers, and PvP-hungry pilots. A unique sun, multiple unique nebulae, new station colors, and other new graphics will add to the flair." CCP Rise
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3256
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Posted - 2014.11.07 10:08:12 -
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Kohiko Sun wrote:You found space Atlantis. It's this Gû¦
Earth is for when EvE gets a WoW size sub base. We aren't there yet.
Don't hold your breath... but don't discount it either. I think we're entering a new golden age for EvE. |

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1034
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Posted - 2014.11.07 10:18:40 -
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Ama Scelesta wrote:KuroVolt wrote:Well actually.
The point of this topic was that Thera might lead back to our original solar system and earth...
Thera = Terra. Or it might not. Why not go with the more likely option of Thera=Thera? The leap to Terra is only the difference of a few letters, but it's still a leap for no particular reason.
Probably because Thera is an anagram of Earth (same letters, differently ordered)
Tbh, I wonder about the new 'Wormhole' systems they announced (yes multiple, Thera just sucked most attention) They seem to differ from normal W-space with their static K-space connections and inability to build POS & have NPC stations (albeit unknown if the other new systems have stations)
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Nate Hill
The Scope Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.11.07 10:27:17 -
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I don't know how to pronounce Thera. However it looks like the Ra, who is the Egyptian god of sun. |

Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
160
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Posted - 2014.11.07 10:39:48 -
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Or it could also mean Arthe. That doesn't actually really mean anything but grrr goons. |
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2185
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Posted - 2014.11.07 10:57:42 -
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Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:Or it could also mean Arthe. That doesn't actually really mean anything but grrr goons. This is a very likely theory.
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
594
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Posted - 2014.11.07 11:27:09 -
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Zappity wrote:Loads of wormhole systems have static k-space connections. I reckon it will be the research hub for the new stargates, maybe including the first player-built one.
Would a gate work inside a WH?
If so would it connect to K-space or other areas of WH space? |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1585
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Posted - 2014.11.07 12:36:19 -
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I'm gonna go with "Thera" being an anagram of "heart". |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2014.11.07 12:47:42 -
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Lore reminder: the current New Eden is what was left after the EVE Gate closed 23,000 years ago.
So either the Earth itesef has gone down the drain or just is 23,000 years more advanced than New Eden.
Balance that... 
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Damen Apol
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
77
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Posted - 2014.11.07 13:07:16 -
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Sorao Soreen wrote:can you say insta locking station camps 24/7
And gate-camps |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6495
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Posted - 2014.11.07 13:11:37 -
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Damen Apol wrote:Sorao Soreen wrote:can you say insta locking station camps 24/7 And gate-camps Haha! Wormhole
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.11.07 13:47:10 -
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KuroVolt wrote:So a wormhole that has landmarks in it alongside a static connection to K space.
Thera sounds alot like Terra.
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
826
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Posted - 2014.11.07 13:54:25 -
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Well I can already predict three things that will happen in Thera in order to get people to come in here.
1) The unannounced system effect (could be a bunch of things, I'm guessing it will be a disabled cloaking device (which is suicide for 90% of the scouts in game, most likely it'll be a change to how booster ships work (ongrid boosting and no offgrid boosting)
2) The NPC stations will charge a docking fee
3) The taxes for putting up buy and sell orders will be 0 here (with accounting and broker 5), regardless of standings.
I'm guessing that's what is going to happen.
Yaay!!!!
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
594
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Posted - 2014.11.07 13:58:33 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Well I can already predict three things that will happen in Thera in order to get people to come in here.
1) The unannounced system effect (could be a bunch of things, I'm guessing it will be a disabled cloaking device (which is suicide for 90% of the scouts in game, most likely it'll be a change to how booster ships work (ongrid boosting and no offgrid boosting)
2) The NPC stations will charge a docking fee
3) The taxes for putting up buy and sell orders will be 0 here (with accounting and broker 5), regardless of standings.
I'm guessing that's what is going to happen. If there are multiple stations any taxes will likely depend on your standings with that faction |

Novemis
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.11.07 14:00:24 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote: 3) The taxes for putting up buy and sell orders will be 0 here (with accounting and broker 5), regardless of standings
Mazeballs!
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8951
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Posted - 2014.11.07 14:02:10 -
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Sorao Soreen wrote:can you say insta locking station camps 24/7
CCP is gonna put in new drugs for that. |

Emma Muutaras
State War Academy Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2014.11.07 14:13:43 -
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The only way i can see this new wormhole trade hub working is if the wormhole had a unique wormhole effect that disables weapons otherwise it will be a ghost town full of pirates. the only issue with that is the vast majority of eve players me included will most likely reject a system that is 100% safe though i could be swayed to it if the system had zero value (no belts,missions combat sites ect and the stations had no research / manufacturing (basicly no upside to the system at all for risk adverse game play) |

Cidanel Afuran
Astro Technologies Apocalypse Now.
55
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Posted - 2014.11.07 14:48:30 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I'm gonna go with "Thera" being an anagram of "heart".
Or, an anagram of 'earth' |

Brink Albosa
Screaming Hayabusa Neo-Bushido Movement
49
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Posted - 2014.11.07 14:56:18 -
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+1
Definitely gonna at least try and leave a JC there.
Cool idea, can't wait to see how the players make it. Thera is just an empty canvas right now.. |

Momoyo
Rivinshield Trading Inc.
53
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Posted - 2014.11.07 15:29:08 -
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Thera could also be a reference to Thera as alluded to by CCP Terminus on reddit.
Quote: Somehow I'm guessing this quote from the livescience article (http://www.livescience.com/4846-eruption-thera-changed-world.html) is the rough idea CCP_Terminus is going for here:
"Thera didn't just blow a massive hole into the island of Santorini GÇô it set the entire ancient Mediterranean onto a different course, like a train that switched tracks to head off in a brand new direction."
For more detail (or TL;DR of the article) - the volcanic explosion of Thera lead to the end of the Minoan civilization and the rise of the Greeks in the Mediterranean.
So the founding (or existance?) of Thera is supposed to lead to the downfall of the Empires, which dovetails nicely with the whole capsuleer empires w/ stargates stuff that we're headed towards. Nice use of slightly obscure history CCP. |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
744
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Posted - 2014.11.07 15:45:00 -
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Nate Hill wrote:I don't know how to pronounce Thera. However it looks like the Ra, who is the Egyptian god of sun.
Looked it up for ya [theer-uh] there + uh |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
2009
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Posted - 2014.11.07 15:51:14 -
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Emma Muutaras wrote:The only way i can see this new wormhole trade hub working is if the wormhole had a unique wormhole effect that disables weapons otherwise it will be a ghost town full of pirates. the only issue with that is the vast majority of eve players me included will most likely reject a system that is 100% safe though i could be swayed to it if the system had zero value (no belts,missions combat sites ect and the stations had no research / manufacturing (basicly no upside to the system at all for risk adverse game play) Don't forget blockade runners.
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Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
177
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:04:15 -
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I cant wait for the new wormhole systems. Thera sounds like that system will be cool. |

epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1335
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:07:17 -
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Thera was the name of the current island of santorini in the mediterranian, it was a major centre of power, culture and trade. Some believe it was the source of the legends of atlantis, The island exploded in one of the greatest cataclysmic events in human recorded history, causing the collapse of multiple civilisations, and resetting power in the mediterranian for ever.
The world as we know it would be a very different place if that had never happened. Possibly the greatest catastrophy for humanity ever. Your opinion may differ.
CCP may be choosing the new name in reference to this.
Or rearranging letters.
I know my vote is on them using the good stuff.  
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6429
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:18:12 -
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Remember that the CCP name guru likes layers, multiple layers that make sense at multiple stages.
'Thera' obviously references the Thera Eruption, which destroyed Minoan civilization and brought about the rise of the Greek States. Odds are this is indeed ancient in that the Thera Eruption likely didn't happen in our time, but to ancient civilizations-- which is to say it could be referencing the seeming collapse of a coherent Sleeper empire, the collapse of Terran-centered civilization in New Eden, or even the collapse of Terran civilization depending on what happened there, and where the EVE Gate was relative to Earth.
The other layer is of course the Thera/Earth/Heart anagram. It's a small one, but it does inform the other reading.
We'll have to see what Thera looks like once we're in it. If it happens to have eight (nine? ;) ) planets, the third of which is Terran, etc, etc, then we may just happen to be looking at Sol.
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1335
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:21:50 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Remember that the CCP name guru likes layers, multiple layers that make sense at multiple stages.
'Thera' obviously references the Thera Eruption, which destroyed Minoan civilization and brought about the rise of the Greek States. Odds are this is indeed ancient in that the Thera Eruption likely didn't happen in our time, but to ancient civilizations-- which is to say it could be referencing the seeming collapse of a coherent Sleeper empire, the collapse of Terran-centered civilization in New Eden, or even the collapse of Terran civilization depending on what happened there, and where the EVE Gate was relative to Earth.
The other layer is of course the Thera/Earth/Heart anagram. It's a small one, but it does inform the other reading.
We'll have to see what Thera looks like once we're in it. If it happens to have eight (nine? ;) ) planets, the third of which is Terran, etc, etc, then we may just happen to be looking at Sol.
We will see, my opinion is they have a MUCH bigger view on this, I think earth/terra as a destroyed discovery is interesting though lots of room for new lore, It seems that We are starting on CCP seagulls journey, I am so glad it has begun.
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6429
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:26:48 -
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Oh, agreed, Ataraxia. I was talking about the name of the system.
I strongly suspect that we're going to get a lot of possible new systems once gate technology by players becomes a thing, and I suspect we're going to see it tie a lot with Sleepers/Thera/other shenanigans. ;) But I figure that's probably half a year out, right? Sooo...
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Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
404
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:28:42 -
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Thera will have unique system effects. An obvious one to place there would be a hefty scan res penalty. Another would be disabling bubbles. And then it better also have a buttload of equally valuable stations. Otherwise station camps and docking games will just kill off any theory of it being a market hub for wormholers.
OTOH, if it does succeed as some large gathering place, it won't necessarily syphon off congestion from Jita, because alts. It could just become a second Jita of a sort. Let's hope CCP has figured out something about many many concurrent characters in system then.
CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
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DaReaper
Net 7
1215
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Posted - 2014.11.07 17:40:55 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:Ama Scelesta wrote:KuroVolt wrote:Well actually.
The point of this topic was that Thera might lead back to our original solar system and earth...
Thera = Terra. Or it might not. Why not go with the more likely option of Thera=Thera? The leap to Terra is only the difference of a few letters, but it's still a leap for no particular reason. Probably because Thera is an anagram of Earth (same letters, differently ordered) Tbh, I wonder about the new 'Wormhole' systems they announced (yes multiple, Thera just sucked most attention) They seem to differ from normal W-space with their static K-space connections and inability to build POS & have NPC stations (albeit unknown if the other new systems have stations)
it was only confirmed that thera will have stations, no pos' and no caps. they did not mention anything about the new wh;s
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Jax Kazen
Prometheus Deep Space Mining and Salvage
29
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:14:15 -
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I could see it becoming a second Jita in terms of population but not in terms of commerce. With random connections I see it as a staging point for day-tripping in WHs but with no Concord protection, I can't see people moving product en mass. Based on limited supply and potential increased demand as a staging area price will probably be high but supply with be a constant issue.
Obviously all just a guess - interesting effects would be if lock time got cranked up or random lock interrupts coupled with some sort of 5x warp stabilization. That would allow supply ships a chance to get to a station if they align/warp quickly or tank long enough for an interrupt. Would add a new dynamic of trying to either tank a supply ship or make it more agile/warp faster.
The site seeing aspect will be interesting but you have to figure that those locations are going to be cloaky gank magnets |

Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1519
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:43:55 -
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I hope one of the system effects disables off grid boosting. OGB would be op in such a very large system and pretty much mandatory.
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Miko Jin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
125
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:59:58 -
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I find this all so knee jerk to add content if it comes about, The problem is that if a large enough entity camps and bubbles entrance/exits then game over.
Opening up Jove Space would be far more interesting. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2187
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Posted - 2014.11.07 20:49:10 -
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Momoyo wrote:Thera could also be a reference to Thera as alluded to by CCP Terminus on reddit. Quote: Somehow I'm guessing this quote from the livescience article (http://www.livescience.com/4846-eruption-thera-changed-world.html) is the rough idea CCP_Terminus is going for here:
"Thera didn't just blow a massive hole into the island of Santorini GÇô it set the entire ancient Mediterranean onto a different course, like a train that switched tracks to head off in a brand new direction."
For more detail (or TL;DR of the article) - the volcanic explosion of Thera lead to the end of the Minoan civilization and the rise of the Greeks in the Mediterranean.
So the founding (or existance?) of Thera is supposed to lead to the downfall of the Empires, which dovetails nicely with the whole capsuleer empires w/ stargates stuff that we're headed towards. Nice use of slightly obscure history CCP. I forgot about that island!
very nice, this sure does make things more interesting.
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Cyndrogen
Angels Of Life
629
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Posted - 2014.11.07 21:37:06 -
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Thera should have more ship restrictions... one day you can fly in a frigate the next day you can bring a BS etc. Change the size daily to make things more interesting. |
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