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Kyoi
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Posted - 2006.08.26 15:36:00 -
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I think thats what the base at the end of 10.10 complexs is called anyway  I have heard quite a bit about it but has anyone here done it and can they tell me the damage that it gives out. Some more info about the other stages of the complex would be great also as I am thinking of buying a Dreadnaught just to do it.
I have the ISK and I am a couple of months away from having the skills to pilot it so I thought it would be a good idea to ask some questions about 10.10 complexs before I spent a few billion buying the dread. I am going to buy the Phoenix as I am mainly a Caldari pilot however I know the missile launcher on Ultima Station does EM damage is it still possible for a Phoenix who will obviously be shield tanking so EM resists may be lacking.
I was also wondering what and how many other ships would be needed to support the dread. Basically any info you can give me will be of help
Thanks
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Brunswick2
the Organ Grinder and Company
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.26 15:44:00 -
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Well, the thing is that most alliances with a 10/10 in their space run it at every spawn, so you'll have to figure out a way to run it without the alliance blowing your dread up...
You'll need other damage dealers in battleships to speed things up, plus support ships, and make sure everyone has leadership 5 (you need it to enter a 10/10 complex)
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Jin'Roh
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.26 15:48:00 -
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dreads cant enter complexes since rmr?!?!
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Brunswick2
the Organ Grinder and Company
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.26 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Brunswick2 on 26/08/2006 15:52:54
You can get capital ships in plexes by using some creative bookmarking
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Mr Bondy
Regeneration
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.26 15:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Jin'Roh
dreads cant enter complexes since rmr?!?!
afaik they can in the sansha ones - cuz the station ultima thingy dose like 13kdps or something crazy and the onyl way to tank it is with a cap ship
MrB
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.26 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Bondy
Originally by: Jin'Roh
dreads cant enter complexes since rmr?!?!
afaik they can in the sansha ones - cuz the station ultima thingy dose like 13kdps or something crazy and the onyl way to tank it is with a cap ship
MrB
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.26 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Brunswick2
Edited by: Brunswick2 on 26/08/2006 15:52:54
You can get capital ships in plexes by using some creative bookmarking
That's also known as exploiting.
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Gothikia
Regeneration
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.26 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Brunswick2
Edited by: Brunswick2 on 26/08/2006 15:52:54
You can get capital ships in plexes by using some creative bookmarking
That's also known as exploiting.
No, you can accually take a dread in for Sansha 10/10's cos its needed, lol.
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Crucifier
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.26 16:52:00 -
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Easily tankable in a muninn or damnation for example
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.26 17:04:00 -
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Can't you just bung a cyno field up at each stage of the plex?
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Kyoi
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Posted - 2006.08.26 18:17:00 -
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Does anyone know for sure whether or not they are allowed in 10.10's ? I know people have done them before RMR and I thought it was the only way to take down the station. Somehow I doubt an AF could tank Ultima station and the other spawns ?
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2006.08.26 18:25:00 -
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You aren't supposed to be able to use cap ships.
You can.
You can tank with AF or HAC just fine.
Any more questions? :)
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.26 18:39:00 -
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An ishtar tanks it without breaking a sweat.
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lofty29
Gallente
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.26 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
An ishtar tanks it without breaking a sweat.
I prefer to use a claw 
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lofty29
Gallente
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.26 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Brunswick2
and make sure everyone has leadership 5 (you need it to enter a 10/10 complex)
Nope, you dont. Ive checked, only the gang leader does.
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Rutoo
Gallente
Interstellar eXodus
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Posted - 2006.08.26 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Brunswick2
and make sure everyone has leadership 5 (you need it to enter a 10/10 complex)
Nope, you dont. Ive checked, only the gang leader does.
Yes Everyone Needs to have Leadership 5. Gang Leader or no Gang leader
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Chronus26
Gallente
STK Scientific
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.26 20:08:00 -
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Lofty, some others and I took a trip into the Serpentis 10/10 on SISI, only our gang leader had leadership 5, and we got in fine. 
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.26 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoi
Does anyone know for sure whether or not they are allowed in 10.10's ? I know people have done them before RMR and I thought it was the only way to take down the station. Somehow I doubt an AF could tank Ultima station and the other spawns ?
Capships are not suppose to be able to use *any* gates.
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Cadiz
Caldari
No Quarter.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.26 22:12:00 -
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Edited by: Cadiz on 26/08/2006 22:14:53
Dreadnaughts can enter Sansha 10/10s just fine; one of my corp's Revelation pilots used to regularly run the first few stages of the 4-07MU 10/10 between Station Ultima spawns in his big shiny golden juggernaught. The acceleration gates gave him no hassles. Dunno if this is working-as-intended or not, but such is how it is.
Also, the Muninn makes a great tank for Station Ultima. We used to have fun with Hedgehogs in a Fog (the alt squatter corp that regularly ran/runs the 4-07 10/10) by focusing on taking out their Muninn whenever we found it; eventually they just refused to log it in unless they knew local was clear.
You should be able to run a Sansha 10/10 pretty easily with a tanking dreadnaught and 3 - 4 gank-fitted battleships (no need to tank!); you may have to add another BS or two if you opt for the Muninn as a main tank as it lacks the firepower of the dread. The greatest need for firepower in my experience is with the overseer of the first stage, as it has a pretty insane shield recharge rate. After that things go a lot more smoothly.
Now, good luck trying to find an unfarmed 10/10! 
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Kyoi
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Posted - 2006.08.27 00:42:00 -
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Ok thanks for the help
One more question....how much "phat lewt" drops and how much should it sell for
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Polydectes
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.27 00:44:00 -
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I think that torp from station ultima does 50K base damage in EM
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.27 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Brunswick2
You can get capital ships in plexes by using some creative bookmarking
This is an exploit, I hope you enjoy your game ban when a Gm figures out what you're doing.
Last I heard, the sansha 10/10 is the only complex that lets in capital ships due to the station at the end being really tough.
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twit brent
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.27 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Polydectes
I think that torp from station ultima does 50K base damage in EM
180k base EM damage AFAIK.
For the 10/10 sansha EVERYONE needs leadership lvl 5. Im prety sure other complexes are different or have other skill requiremnts or something but u definately need everyone to have leadership V in sansha.
Carriers and dreads can enter sansha 10/10
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.08.27 13:43:00 -
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to OP u had better join the controlling alliacne oh and be prepared to PVP elsewhere to get the rights to this plex if youre looking to farm it the 0.0 will remove youre nice shiny dread first time u go solo down there
Need to be aware i dont think u are.
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Areconus
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Posted - 2006.08.29 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: twit brent
Originally by: Polydectes
I think that torp from station ultima does 50K base damage in EM
180k base EM damage AFAIK.
For the 10/10 sansha EVERYONE needs leadership lvl 5. Im prety sure other complexes are different or have other skill requiremnts or something but u definately need everyone to have leadership V in sansha.
Carriers and dreads can enter sansha 10/10
180k?? good god...so do people basically get their em resistance up to like 95% to combat this?
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Wilfan Ret'nub
Singularity.
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Posted - 2006.08.29 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Areconus
180k?? good god...so do people basically get their em resistance up to like 95% to combat this?
If you had read the thread you'd notice they also get the sig radius down to 30 or 130 by using (heavy) assault ships.
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Amarr
Out Siders
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.29 16:32:00 -
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Yep - Station Ultima does around 200,000 EM Damage per torp. thats around 10k damage with 95% em resist.
Only ways I can think of beating it without Capital ships is
1. Raven spamming defenders with rocket launchers (?)
2. Gangmates Smartbombing the torps
3. Some superfast ship with low sig radius tanking it/out running it
4. Claymore + 1600mn + Officer Hardners
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