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Motrico
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Posted - 2003.10.14 08:37:00 -
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IÆve been considering for some time now to start my own corporation.
The logistical problem I see is how exactly to get Megacyte.
I hope to build a medium-sized corporation bent mostly on providing ships and equipment to itÆs own members only, not really looking to sell stuff to other people. But to accomplish this, I know I need some access to Megacyte.
As far as I know, there are only a few places I can really acquire this mineral, and many of them are far too dangerous for a small mining operation to access, or without battleship support or being a member of an alliance. And its going to be hard to join an alliance as a fledgling corporation.
My corporation will probably start out quite small, and weÆll have to work hard to build it, but the problem is we canÆt build much of a corporation without Megacyte.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can solve this issue? IÆm not sure where to begin! IÆm really just trying to figure out how feasible a new corporation is at this point, I havenÆt done much beyond some preliminary planning, I'm not one to just dive in.
Please I would like serious, helpful responses only. IÆm looking for advice, not sarcasm or flaming.
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Cmd Sisko
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Posted - 2003.10.14 09:12:00 -
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Heh join the club Motrico. but if your just starting out. i wouldnt go after Megacyte or Zyd until you get a nice sized small corp and at least have 2 corpmates with bs's. but then you gotta worry about pkers that travel in packs. so u can either take that chance and mine it somewhere in 0.0 space or u can mine everything else u can and sell it and then buy mega and zyd with the isk u get from the lower mins. but the prices are kinda jumpin on those mins. :( but thats how i got my bs. :) mining and mining those low mins and selling them and kaboom! a bs sitting in my hanger that i cant fly yet hehe :)
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RaTTuS
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Posted - 2003.10.14 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: RaTTuS on 14/10/2003 09:24:22
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=37495
if you are after ships... it will help small / medium corps.
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Motrico
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Posted - 2003.10.14 09:44:00 -
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Edited by: Motrico on 14/10/2003 09:53:15
well just to clear somthing up, this is an alt character i'm posting with, i'd rather not unveil who i am until i'm sure i want to go through with this whole corporation thing. i also posted this way so i could get totally unbiased advice.
That BIG deal sounds awsome. though i'm not too concerned about making isk to buy BP's, which we'll only be concentrating on cruisers and frigates in the beginning. so i'm not too worried about actually getting the BP's.
what i'm concerned about is what do i do with a bunch of ship BP's and no megacyte?! 
buying it seems to be an ok idea, but you have to think for every 1 unit of megacyte i'd have to sell 2,500 pyerite, or 10,000 tritanium. of course thats assuming that there is actually some mega for sale! my guess is that all the big corps that have access to the mega are witholding it from the market to build thier own ships, thereby taking it away from the market, decreasing supply, increasing price, and slowly suffocating smaller corps.
these prices are just insane, its just not economical to buy the stuff at these prices. i sure hope somthing is done to increase the megacyte supply, and soon.
Its bad enoguh when the huge corps are having trouble getting it, i cant imagine what the current mega situation is doing to smaller corps.
one more thing i'd like to add. I do think its kinda neat that for the most part, all of the alliance wars seem to be over megacyte when you think about it. its the one thing that those far-out regions like fountain and venal have that the others don't. i thin kthat aspect of it is interresting. but i stil lthink somthing needs to be done on the developer's end to increase supply a little, the market is choking to death right now it seems.
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GraveDigger
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Posted - 2003.10.14 10:44:00 -
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hey Motrico,
contact me in game and I'll explain how and where you can mine bistot and crokite without any problems. cya
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Nicodemus
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Posted - 2003.10.14 12:18:00 -
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Two ways you can get Mega other than mining in dubious systems.. the first is to check the trade channel as you can find people selling Megacyte on there.. not cheap mind you.. but it saves you having to mine. The other is to recycle loot that you get from pirates. You will find certain items will yield Megacyte when you reprocess them.
Hope that helps.
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Ezra
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Posted - 2003.10.14 15:12:00 -
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Just buy the megacyte...
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2003.10.14 15:18:00 -
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with war raging between the alliance currently, the selling of megacyte is not the biggest concern of the alliances. however there will always be mega around in empire space, as there is demand and so some brave miners will find a way to supply it (making a nice profit in the process)
the decision you've gotta make, is do you risk the lives of your corp and their ships travelling to 0.0 space and mining bis, or do you just buy it?
well are ya feeling lucky punk? 
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Deloup Drakar
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Posted - 2003.10.14 15:23:00 -
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Like Nicodemus said, recycle pirate loot. Seems too many people are hell bent they NEED Bistot to get Megacyte.
Start your corp, let your members go blow the heck out of NPC pirates and recycle any of the loot you dont NEED. Your members should enjoy blowing things up more than mining for days and days and at the same time you'll be getting Zydrine and Megacyte along w/ the low end minerals.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.14 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Luc Boye on 14/10/2003 15:53:10
initiative is good.
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Allaina
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Posted - 2003.10.14 16:28:00 -
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Let's see you want to sell trit/pyer to buy mega to build ships. Why not sell trit/pyer to buy ships? Let the actual ship builders worry about how they are getting mega. As big corps they can acquire mega more effecintly than you can. Cut out the middle men and just buy your ships.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.14 16:32:00 -
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Recycling loot from NPC's is cool.
Get yourself to Refining Efficiency 5 and use a hangar to store unwanted loot from mass-NPC hunting.
Every couple of days you can recycle whats in there.
You'd be amazed what you'll end up with.
Did a couple of hours of npc shooting at the weekend and ended up with 100 megacyte, 526 zydrine, and around 8M worth of other mins.
Sure, nowhere near as efficient as mining but it's more exciting.
If barely 
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Zraahd
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Posted - 2003.10.14 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: Zraahd on 14/10/2003 17:49:58
The fear of 0.0 is unfounded. Look at the maps and see where no one is, go out and scout a bit and you will find bistot. With the wars raging in areas its hard for alliances to gather forces to deal with a few miners. If they show up run, you made more than enough in the time it took them to find you to run out on a few hundred bistot in a can.
Just remember the key to bistot mining is haulers. One miner can keep almost 3 haulers going. The distance is the disadvantage, hence the 3 haulers. A single BS fitted with mostly weapons and a couple mining lasers can mine all day in relative safety, if you pay attention. Harvs help but not recomended unless you know what you are doing, so you don't loose them all the time to the spawns.
I have been doing it a long time to decrease the need for mining all the time. Bistot cuts your needed mining for isk down so far that you have way more free time to engage in all types of battles or do whatever else you want to do.
Get out of empire space, 0.0 is such better mining. If you all did that instead of talk about the price of mega going up there would be enough to keep it at a lower price.
I don't even know why I should have to tell you how to do it. Its only going to cut my profits. But I doubt most will go out to 0.0 to find the bistot anyways.
0.0 isn't dangerous if you now what you are doing and pay attention. I have been out in it with my main character since the third week of release. I think that might be why i can't understand the fears of traveling and residing in 0.0
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.14 21:58:00 -
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South of Khanid.
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Nafres Maelstrom
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Posted - 2003.10.14 22:46:00 -
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hehe i can supply u with mega at 13k a pop
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.10.14 23:03:00 -
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Sure, nowhere near as efficient as mining
Try working it out again Josh and factor in the bounties you get. There's a reason I haven't mined one single unit of ore for 4 months now
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.10.14 23:17:00 -
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Not to mention that farming rats also gives you the occasional valuable rare mod. If I loot an H-50 Heavy Arbalest missile launcher, that's 3-4 million ISK right there. Photonic CPU? 1 million to 1.5 million. And you'd be surprised how much of the less sexy loot you can sell as the opportunity arises and over time.
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Chucky
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Posted - 2003.10.15 01:43:00 -
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Not to mention that farming rats also gives you the occasional valuable rare mod. If I loot an H-50 Heavy Arbalest missile launcher, that's 3-4 million ISK right there. Photonic CPU? 1 million to 1.5 million. And you'd be surprised how much of the less sexy loot you can sell as the opportunity arises and over time.
If someone is paying 1 mill for Photonics since the nerf, I wanna know who? I got a big stack that i couldn't get rid of in time 
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Caliente Bonito
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Posted - 2003.10.15 09:11:00 -
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I was soooooo furry until Jash dragged me out to 0.0.
Bistot mining *is* fairly safe, if you lose ships, it's likely to be industrials hauling. Industrials are cheap, you can insure them, and your truckers can upgrade their clones. Just don't let truckers wear implants. ;-) 3200 cargo of Bistot (200 units) is worth lots of indies. However all that trucking is really boring and time consuming. To find PLENTIFUL Bistot people travel about 20 systems from a base.
Once I spent a week hauling Bistot, I understood why it sells for so much. A group could make just as much money mining low ores in a 1.0 system in a week as they make mining Bistot, due to the travel times needed to haul Bistot back to a base 20 jumps away. You can find Bistot closer, but then you spend more time SEARCHING for the Bistot in smaller rocks and so it all balances out.
So, going out and getting your own Megacyte is do-able.
But enough people are doing it and have apparently made the same comparisons I've made, that the current megacyte prices make the return on Bistot mining comparable to the return from other activities like low and medium ore mining.
So buying mega is also perfectly sensible.
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