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Kajurei Delainen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.11.12 04:14:02 - [1] - Quote The tears have made a river from the losses these suicide gankers have caused. The alliance is CODE. Their killboard says it all, they get in T2 fit catalysts and group attack everything. KILLBOARD How does CCP continue to allow this to happen? There is nothing any one can do about it either, it is a game mechanic.
Damnskippy Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel 2	Posted - 2014.11.12 04:51:06 - [2] - Quote Here we go again... Code ganks are ENTIRELY avoidable. Would you like to know how to avoid being one of their victims? Convo any one of them and ask. They will literally tell you how not to get ganked. If you're to proud to ask one of them, these forums are filled with threads containing the information you need.
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 247	Posted - 2014.11.12 04:52:39 - [3] - Quote ffs, is 10 million isk really that much? Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 738	Posted - 2014.11.12 05:00:50 - [4] - Quote I'll just leave this here.... http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/07/counter-ganking.html
Azov Rassau The Hornets Cartel 91	Posted - 2014.11.12 05:08:33 - [5] - Quote "It's this thread again." No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert.
Tengu Grib Happy Fun times Spaceships in Space 618	Posted - 2014.11.12 06:22:26 - [6] - Quote Damnskippy wrote: Here we go again... Code ganks are ENTIRELY avoidable. Would you like to know how to avoid being one of their victims? Convo any one of them and ask. They will literally tell you how not to get ganked. If you're to proud to ask one of them, these forums are filled with threads containing the information you need. Confirming I would tell anyone who asks exactly how to avoid getting ganked. It's not hard, or even expensive, and I won't even lie. I swear on my honor as an Agent. The New Order is recruiting PVP pilots. Code. Forums are the place to be, all are welcome! The Law of High Sec.
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 722	Posted - 2014.11.12 06:24:22 - [7] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: The tears have made a river from the losses these suicide gankers have caused. The alliance is CODE. Their killboard says it all, they get in T2 fit catalysts and group attack everything. KILLBOARD How does CCP continue to allow this to happen? There is nothing any one can do about it either, it is a game mechanic. You see there was this one time that I went to the park and there was this dog, it was really fluffy and then like I touched it and I realized it wasn't all that fluffy and I thought to myself that the fluffyness of said dog was all in my mind, but I was wrong because you see like the dog was a shorthair and then like there was these things and stuff happened. Teal Deer: Really? Tl;Dr :: Miner, Calm Down. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 The Conference Elite CODE. 723	Posted - 2014.11.12 06:24:22 - [8] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: The tears have made a river from the losses these suicide gankers have caused. The alliance is CODE. Their killboard says it all, they get in T2 fit catalysts and group attack everything. KILLBOARD How does CCP continue to allow this to happen? There is nothing any one can do about it either, it is a game mechanic. You see there was this one time that I went to the park and there was this dog, it was really fluffy and then like I touched it and I realized it wasn't all that fluffy and I thought to myself that the fluffyness of said dog was all in my mind, but I was wrong because you see like the dog was a shorthair and then like there was these things and stuff happened. Teal Deer: Really? Tl;Dr :: Miner, Calm Down. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Anal Canal The Conference Elite CODE. 723	Posted - 2014.11.12 06:24:22 - [9] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: The tears have made a river from the losses these suicide gankers have caused. The alliance is CODE. Their killboard says it all, they get in T2 fit catalysts and group attack everything. KILLBOARD How does CCP continue to allow this to happen? There is nothing any one can do about it either, it is a game mechanic. You see there was this one time that I went to the park and there was this dog, it was really fluffy and then like I touched it and I realized it wasn't all that fluffy and I thought to myself that the fluffyness of said dog was all in my mind, but I was wrong because you see like the dog was a shorthair and then like there was these things and stuff happened. Teal Deer: Really? Tl;Dr :: Miner, Calm Down. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Tengu Grib Happy Fun times Spaceships in Space 618	Posted - 2014.11.12 06:24:31 - [10] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: The tears have made a river from the losses these suicide gankers have caused. The alliance is CODE. Their killboard says it all, they get in T2 fit catalysts and group attack everything. KILLBOARD How does CCP continue to allow this to happen? There is nothing any one can do about it either, it is a game mechanic. All I see there is a bunch of people who are playing eve and interacting with other people in a multiplayer game, why would CCM want to stop that? The New Order is recruiting PVP pilots. Code. Forums are the place to be, all are welcome! The Law of High Sec.

Zepher Helen Hawat ULTRAMAR SECURITIES 16	Posted - 2014.11.12 06:32:54 - [11] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: The tears have made a river from the losses these suicide gankers have caused. The alliance is CODE. Their killboard says it all, they get in T2 fit catalysts and group attack everything. KILLBOARD How does CCP continue to allow this to happen? There is nothing any one can do about it either, it is a game mechanic. FACEPALM
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 6790	Posted - 2014.11.12 06:38:49 - [12] - Quote Nothing is 'out of hand' until CCP says it is. They tend to let things slide for the most part. However, anyone that's been around for a while has seen what happens when everyone starts doing something that only a few were doing at first. And it ain't pretty. CODE's KB might look impressive taken on it's own, but it's just a small part of the destruction that takes place in this game everyday. Plus, they are pretty easy to avoid. It's just that many don't bother with the most basic of intel gathering with the vast amount of tools we have in and out of game. There are certainly times when you are legitimately in a situation that you could not have foreseen or gotten out of, but not near as many as people make it seem. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Jur Tissant The TERRA Guardians of Serenity 292	Posted - 2014.11.12 07:12:10 - [13] - Quote Who's this? CODE.? Never heard of them. Suicide ganking is PvP. It is the kind of content which CCP wants players to create. CODE is a prime example of player-driven content, though I always think it's weird how hard they try to justify blowing people up. If mining is your thing, find a low-traffic 0.5 or 0.6 and chip away. Or go into low-sec. Ganking isn't that hard to avoid, it just requires forethought and a small amount of attentiveness.
Azov Rassau The Hornets Cartel 91	Posted - 2014.11.12 07:37:40 - [14] - Quote Jur Tissant wrote: Who's this? CODE.? Never heard of them. Suicide ganking is PvP. It is the kind of content which CCP wants players to create. CODE is a prime example of player-driven content, though I always think it's weird how hard they try to justify blowing people up. If mining is your thing, find a low-traffic 0.5 or 0.6 and chip away. Or go into low-sec. Ganking isn't that hard to avoid, it just requires forethought and a small amount of attentiveness. ^This. I don't even know why CODE. is still being discussed in a daily basis, when there are so many ways available to avoid them. They bring emergency, tears and action (which is exactly what Highsec needs) while also actually rewarding the careful and the alert who don't go afk in this dangerous Universe. Also, it's always fun to jam their bot-aspirant Catalysts. No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert.
Luwc Confederation of Independent Contractors Swamphole 290	Posted - 2014.11.12 09:06:06 - [15] - Quote How not to get ganked 101 : Step 1 : Don't go AFK Step 2 : fit properly. done. http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif
Sylphy TSOE Po1ice TSOE Consortium 43	Posted - 2014.11.12 10:30:14 - [16] - Quote Can a GM please ban these CODE spammers creating new threads every single ***** day to promote their ****** way of EVE life? Really, the forum doesn't need more CODE alts posting on how great CODE is. Those who know it, know it by reputation. Those of us who laught in your face all the way from null-sec, do so regardless of your idiotic post-spamming. The character does not represent the views/opinions of its Corporation or Alliance.
admiral root Red Galaxy 1842	Posted - 2014.11.12 12:07:29 - [17] - Quote Azov Rassau wrote: I don't even know why CODE. is still being discussed in a daily basis, when there are so many ways available to avoid them. Because those that can, do. Those that can't, whine incessently. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff CODE. is recruiting highsec PvPers for wardecs \| New Order diplomat "no one hates you, none of us care enough for that".
ggodhsup Raider corp 6	Posted - 2014.11.12 12:39:08 - [18] - Quote Luwc wrote: How not to get ganked 101 : Step 1 : Don't go AFK Step 2 : fit properly. done. ^^this....i went afk once.....ONCE......ginger magician had my ship and pod.....and you know what?.... i didnt goto the forums......i just stopped afking..... maybe i can get this to trend?
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10575	Posted - 2014.11.12 13:36:20 - [19] - Quote Yeah, they killed a whole ten Freighers yesterday, dude. To me, that makes it seems like CCP needs to buff suicide ganking, since only the single largest group of gankers in the game can seem to get it done at any decent scale, and only then with a gigantic SRP for their members. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kajurei Delainen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:14:21 - [20] - Quote Just through observation, CODE. continued to slaughter barges. With the varying number of kills, it is clear that these victims were not afkers, freighters don't go afk at belts, they were all people just paying CCP to play the game. Whole sale destruction like this isn't good for business. CCP is trying to get more people to play a game, and when people find out that they are paying money to get everything stolen from them in hi-sec space, they take their subscription money and go play a different game. Allowing this type of game play to continue is Bad for Business; for CCP and for our player base. Driving away paying customers is self-destructive.

Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6712	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:23:31 - [21] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: Just through observation, CODE. continued to slaughter barges. With the varying number of kills, it is clear that these victims were not afkers, freighters don't go afk at belts, they were all people just paying CCP to play the game. Whole sale destruction like this isn't good for business. CCP is trying to get more people to play a game, and when people find out that they are paying money to get everything stolen from them in hi-sec space, they take their subscription money and go play a different game. Allowing this type of game play to continue is Bad for Business; for CCP and for our player base. Driving away paying customers is self-destructive. care to cite any of that there buddy? also, if you dont like what they do, try and stop them. we have loads of fun ******* with code "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Gallowmere Rorschach Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 818	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:32:37 - [22] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: Just through observation, CODE. continued to slaughter barges. With the varying number of kills, it is clear that these victims were not afkers, freighters don't go afk at belts, they were all people just paying CCP to play the game. Whole sale destruction like this isn't good for business. CCP is trying to get more people to play a game, and when people find out that they are paying money to get everything stolen from them in hi-sec space, they take their subscription money and go play a different game. Allowing this type of game play to continue is Bad for Business; for CCP and for our player base. Driving away paying customers is self-destructive. Aaaahahahaahahahahaha....you can't be serious...can you? Just be glad that the old chokepoints and nano mechanics were gone before CODE. came about.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1767	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:32:54 - [23] - Quote Freighters absolutely do go afk in belts. They have been doing so ever since they got the ability to take from containers.
Tyyler DURden Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co. 31	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:59:59 - [24] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: Just through observation, CODE. continued to slaughter barges. With the varying number of kills, it is clear that these victims were not afkers, freighters don't go afk at belts, they were all people just paying CCP to play the game. Whole sale destruction like this isn't good for business. CCP is trying to get more people to play a game, and when people find out that they are paying money to get everything stolen from them in hi-sec space, they take their subscription money and go play a different game. Allowing this type of game play to continue is Bad for Business; for CCP and for our player base. Driving away paying customers is self-destructive. I'll try to explain something for you. There are two types of pilots that code kills. Dumbasses. and People who dont know any better. Lets now take a look at each of these types of pilots. Dumbasses: Unfortunately the dumbasses of new eden have demonstrated consistently that they have zero inclination to improvise adapt or overcome. In almost all but the rarest of cases they will continue to be dumbasses, and they will wonder why code keeps happening to them. People who dont know any better: These pilots have a choice to make when code happens to them. They get to choose the type of transformation they are about to make. They will either transform into People who now know better, or they will transform into the previously discussed catagory of dumbasses. People who now know better will make appropriate choices, improvise, adapt and overcome. The dumbasses will probably just remain dumbasses and in rare cases they buy permits that allow them to pursue they're dumbass lifestyle in peace. I hope this cleared things up for you Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21477	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:17:26 - [25] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: Just through observation, CODE. continued to slaughter barges. And? Quote: With the varying number of kills, it is clear that these victims were not afkers, freighters don't go afk at belts, they were all people just paying CCP to play the game. Who cares if their victims are afk or not? Freighters most certainly do afk in belts. CODE. are also people who're paying CCP to play the game, in a way that they're allowed to play the game. Quote: And talk of tanking your mining barge against high alpha damage is false, that damage can not be tanked. CODE. rely on high DPS, not alpha, it's totally possible to tank them; albeit at the expense of yield. Not being in the belt when they roll up is your best tank though, although that requires effort in the form of watching local and using D-scan. Quote: Whole sale destruction like this isn't good for business. CCP is trying to get more people to play a game, and when people find out that they are paying money to get everything stolen from them in hi-sec space, they take their subscription money and go play a different game. Which part of "EVE is a harsh, dark universe" did you fail to understand? I suggest that you read this post by CCP Falcon Quote: Allowing this type of game play to continue is Bad for Business; for CCP and for our player base. Driving away paying customers is self-destructive. So why has Eve outlasted many MMO's and remained successful for the last 11 years? "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10576	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:31:25 - [26] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: Driving away paying customers is self-destructive. But what you're asking for is to have CCP take your side against other paying customers (the sucide gankers) and drive them away to suit you. So, you're asking CCP to choose between two groups of players, both of which are paying customers. One that just wants to log in to the client, afk while mining/hauling and watch Family Guy all day. And one that actually plays the game and interacts with other players. Your way is the slow death of the game, where people are so bored to tears that they eventually just stop playing. The other is the way the game has always worked, and thrived, for more than a decade. So why do you want to drive away paying customers, I ask you? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Azov Rassau The Hornets Cartel 91	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:35:57 - [27] - Quote ggodhsup wrote: i went afk once.....ONCE......ginger magician had my ship and pod.....and you know what?.... i didnt goto the forums......i just stopped afking..... maybe i can get this to trend? It would be great to see such 'trend'. Someone recently created a topic, I think in C&P, talking about miners who should "go on a strike" by stopping mining completely for a month... Instead of that, what would happen if all miners and haulers reacted like you: all of them at their keyboards (as expected) and avoiding all ganks (with the usage of available in-game tools mentioned 4294756 times in these forums). Now that would be a strike. Hopefully, more Highsec residents will react like you did and adapt to the fact that there's a risk whenever you click Undock, because as admiral root said, there's a heavy cloud of incessant whining above Highsec... (which might, for example, dangerously result in another buff rain to the already-God-like CONCORD etc). No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert.
Thomas Mayaki Perkone Caldari State 29	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:08:47 - [28] - Quote The biggest mistake people make is actually undocking in a freighter. Those ships are clearly not fit for purpose.
malcovas Henderson THoF 324	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:17:27 - [29] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: The tears have made a river from the losses these suicide gankers have caused. The alliance is CODE. Their killboard says it all, they get in T2 fit catalysts and group attack everything. KILLBOARD How does CCP continue to allow this to happen? There is nothing any one can do about it either, it is a game mechanic. Oh Dear!
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 723	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:26:48 - [30] - Quote Don't worry everyone, I am AWOXing them and shall be destroying them from the inside! They won't even see it coming! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á

Anal Canal The Conference Elite CODE. 725	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:26:48 - [31] - Quote Don't worry everyone, I am AWOXing them and shall be destroying them from the inside! They won't even see it coming! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1770	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:40:22 - [32] - Quote I don't know how anyone can say there is too much of any kind of pvp going on in highsec and keep a straight face.
Paranoid Loyd 2576	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:52:27 - [33] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: I don't know how anyone can say there is too much of any kind of pvp going on in highsec and keep a straight face. Like this: THERE IS TOO MUCH OF ANY KIND PVP IN HIGHSEC. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:52:56 - [34] - Quote Agree with OP....that the same gankers keep ganking without any real deterrent to continuing shows that law enforcement is broken. It fundamentally makes the game more tedious and less fun for the vast majority of highsec PvE folks. Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Of course it's also not very exciting, and that tedium is the real result of CODE - spreading boredom as people take precautions to avoid the ganks. Thankfully CCP is starting to realize how negative this whole meta is, as awoxxing seems destined to be tossed overboard, I imagne that wardeccs will soon be curtailed, and the new bowhead ship was at least given a buffed up tank and an agility bonus. The era of the griefer is coming to a close.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21480	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:09:17 - [35] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Agree with OP....that the same gankers keep ganking without any real deterrent to continuing shows that law enforcement is broken. It fundamentally makes the game more tedious and less fun for the vast majority of highsec PvE folks. Nope it shows that Concord are working as intended, they were never designed to restrict PvP in highsec. As for your claim of tedium, the inverse is in fact true, gankers make the game more interesting for those of use that actually make the effort to outwit and outmanoeuvre them. Without the element of danger they add to highsec most highsec activities would be about as interesting as watching paint dry. Quote: Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Good for you, you've taken steps to mitigate the risk. You'll never be 100% gank proof unless you never leave station. Quote: Of course it's also not very exciting, and that tedium is the real result of CODE - spreading boredom as people take precautions to avoid the ganks. Do you know what an oxymoron is? Quote: Thankfully CCP is starting to realize how negative this whole meta is, as awoxxing seems destined to be tossed overboard, I imagne that wardeccs will soon be curtailed, and the new bowhead ship was at least given a buffed up tank and an agility bonus. Awoxing will still be possible after the proposed changes, it'll just be harder to carry it out in highsec. Wardecs are unlikely to be curtailed, unlike you CCP want a vibrant single shard player driven game, not what is for all intents and purposes a separate highsec Trammel shard that is populated by gold farmers. Quote: The era of the griefer is coming to a close. Firstly they're not griefers by CCP's definition on the term, which is the only one that matters. Secondly, you wish, keep dreaming. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6716	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:10:28 - [36] - Quote veers, you have given us every reason to believe that you do not fully(or even partially) understand the systems and meta you talk about. as hilariously evidenced here. Veers Belvar wrote: Inflation isn't about how much isk is in circulation ha! "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 150	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:11:41 - [37] - Quote Simple, because CCP is behind the gankers in even helping to created the code for public display. As one of the CSM Minutes said, they want to cause as much turmoil as possible in the game. "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:19:29 - [38] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: veers, you have given us every reason to believe that you do not fully(or even partially) understand the systems and meta you talk about. as hilariously evidenced here. Veers Belvar wrote: Inflation isn't about how much isk is in circulation ha! Yes, sherlock, inflation is determined by the supply and demand for money. In a closed economy like in Eve, if isk in circulation goes up 10%, but all commodities that you would purchase with isk increase in circulation by 20%, we would....wait for it....expect deflation....just like what we have now. Maybe it's time to stop shooting noobs and learn some economics. Money supply is certainly not the sole determining factor of inflation rate...if that was the case economies in hyperinflation could just tighten the money supply....and japan, experiencing real deflation, could just increase the money supply. I mean come on buddy, we can accept shoddy PvP here, but not shoddy economics.
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 253	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:20:42 - [39] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Don't worry everyone, I am AWOXing them and shall be destroying them from the inside! They won't even see it coming! We're fine with that as long as you can mash your keyboard when we tell you to so at least until the time comes you are contributing to dps. Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Renegade Heart Smack My Ship Up 271	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:23:23 - [40] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Of course it's also not very exciting, and that tedium is the real result of CODE - spreading boredom as people take precautions to avoid the ganks. The fact that high sec is not a safe place makes the game more fun. I find hauling to be quite a fun activity, especially with valuable cargo. Hauling is a PvP activity, since you are hauling against the risk of being ganked by other players, and lots of players in EvE enjoy PvP because it is fun! As for CODE, well whatever conflict may occur between us in the game, they are creating content which can help people to have fun, and player-driven content is what EvE is all about. If there are players out there not enjoying themselves then maybe they should think about whether they are playing the right game! Of course, CCP seem to have decided that intracorp attacks will trigger a concord response in high sec, but they have previously stated that suicide ganking is here to stay. I think it is a bit of a step too far to say that suicide ganking is out of hand because it is still quite easy to have fun playing the game, and as long as that continues, I expect it will remain a valid game mechanic.

Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6718	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:29:58 - [41] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: veers, you have given us every reason to believe that you do not fully(or even partially) understand the systems and meta you talk about. as hilariously evidenced here. Veers Belvar wrote: Inflation isn't about how much isk is in circulation ha! Yes, sherlock, inflation is determined by the supply and demand for money. In a closed economy like in Eve, if isk in circulation goes up 10%, but all commodities that you would purchase with isk increase in circulation by 20%, we would....wait for it....expect deflation....just like what we have now. Maybe it's time to stop shooting noobs and learn some economics. Money supply is certainly not the sole determining factor of inflation rate...if that was the case economies in hyperinflation could just tighten the money supply....and japan, experiencing real deflation, could just increase the money supply. I mean come on buddy, we can accept shoddy PvP here, but not shoddy economics. http://i.imgur.com/ayKucNL.jpg "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:31:41 - [42] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: As for your claim of tedium, the inverse is in fact true, gankers make the game more interesting for those of use that actually make the effort to outwit and outmanoeuvre them. Without the element of danger they add to highsec most highsec activities would be about as interesting as watching paint dry. Quote: Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Good for you, you've taken steps to mitigate the risk. You'll never be 100% gank proof unless you never leave station. Quote: Thankfully CCP is starting to realize how negative this whole meta is, as awoxxing seems destined to be tossed overboard, I imagne that wardeccs will soon be curtailed, and the new bowhead ship was at least given a buffed up tank and an agility bonus. Awoxing will still be possible after the proposed changes, it'll just be harder to carry it out in highsec. Wardecs are unlikely to be curtailed, unlike you CCP want a vibrant single shard player driven game, not what is for all intents and purposes a separate highsec Trammel shard that is populated by gold farmers. 1. CONCORD were designed to act as a lawn enforcement agency and punish criminals. There are 4 justifications for criminal punishment - 1. Moral retribution 2. rehabilitation 3. Protection of society from the individual criminal 4. Deterrence of other would be criminals 2,3,4 are certainly not occurring. And 1 would require far stiffer punishments, certainly restitution for the lost loot would be a minimum requirement. Law enforcement agencies that are unable to appropriately punish career criminals are not worthy of the name, and are little more than joke organizations. There is no way that someone who blows up 10 freighters in a single day would be free to roam the streets, subject only to a 15 minute timeout. Also, the idea that without ganking highsec would be boring is not true - incursions offer a measure of PvP and competition without ganking....I find them enjoyable and engaging. We don't need capsuleer ships exploding to have fun. What CODE really does is cause individual players to avoid activities like hauling, which hardly makes highsec more interesting. 3. With cloak + MWD + travel fit, close to 300k ehp, and not susceptible to bumping, you are virtually ungankable. It's just boring to need to travel like that in highsec....how is forcing people to use boring travel fits good for the game? 4. Awoxxing in highsec is deterring people from joining corporations. So are wardeccs. So is corporate theft. CCP realizes that deterring social engagement in highsec is bad for the game, and is taking steps to remedy that. I don't see how getting rid of awoxxing but keeping wardeccs and theft will accomplish that. CCP is prioritizing the 98% of non-gankers in highsec over the 2% of highsec that is gankers, which seems to be a fundamentally sound business move.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6718	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:34:11 - [43] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: 1. CONCORD were designed to act as a lawn enforcement agency and punish criminals. There are 4 justifications for criminal punishment - 1. Moral retribution 2. rehabilitation 3. Protection of society from the individual criminal 4. Deterrence of other would be criminals 2,3,4 are certainly not occurring. And 1 would require far stiffer punishments, certainly restitution for the lost loot would be a minimum requirement. Law enforcement agencies that are unable to appropriately punish career criminals are not worthy of the name, and are little more than joke organizations. There is no way that someone who blows up 10 freighters in a single day would be free to roam the streets, subject only to a 15 minute timeout. Also, the idea that without ganking highsec would be boring is not true - incursions offer a measure of PvP and competition without ganking....I find them enjoyable and engaging. We don't need capsuleer ships exploding to have fun. What CODE really does is cause individual players to avoid activities like hauling, which hardly makes highsec more interesting. 3. With cloak + MWD + travel fit, close to 300k ehp, and not susceptible to bumping, you are virtually ungankable. It's just boring to need to travel like that in highsec....how is forcing people to use boring travel fits good for the game? 4. Awoxxing in highsec is deterring people from joining corporations. So are wardeccs. So is corporate theft. CCP realizes that deterring social engagement in highsec is bad for the game, and is taking steps to remedy that. I don't see how getting rid of awoxxing but keeping wardeccs and theft will accomplish that. CCP is prioritizing the 98% of non-gankers in highsec over the 2% of highsec that is gankers, which seems to be a fundamentally sound business move. internet spaceships veers, not real life. concord are a punitive mechanic not a civil service. 2,3 and 4 are the responsibility of players. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:35:27 - [44] - Quote Renegade Heart wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Of course it's also not very exciting, and that tedium is the real result of CODE - spreading boredom as people take precautions to avoid the ganks. The fact that high sec is not a safe place makes the game more fun. I find hauling to be quite a fun activity, especially with valuable cargo. Hauling is a PvP activity, since you are hauling against the risk of being ganked by other players, and lots of players in EvE enjoy PvP because it is fun! As for CODE, well whatever conflict may occur between us in the game, they are creating content which can help people to have fun, and player-driven content is what EvE is all about. If there are players out there not enjoying themselves then maybe they should think about whether they are playing the right game! Of course, CCP seem to have decided that intracorp attacks will trigger a concord response in high sec, but they have previously stated that suicide ganking is here to stay. I think it is a bit of a step too far to say that suicide ganking is out of hand because it is still quite easy to have fun playing the game, and as long as that continues, I expect it will remain a valid game mechanic. I guess we have different definitions of "fun." The fact that when moving I need to spend a minute travel fitting my ships to make them 100% gankproof is not very "fun." It's actually pretty boring. The only people having with fun with ganking are the gankers...talk to the highsec victims and see how many are having "fun." I would expect an eventual crackdown on -10 gankers...the ability of CODE to sit in Uedama all day ganking freighters with no consequences will not be a long term reality....there is fundamentally no way in the current meta to really punish them, and I expect that to change.
Renegade Heart Smack My Ship Up 273	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:44:21 - [45] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: The only people having with fun with ganking are the gankers This is wrong. There are antigankers having fun too, and then haulers like myself, as I previously said. Or do you not believe I have fun hauling? If there was no risk, it would be extremely boring stuff!
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6722	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:53:45 - [46] - Quote Renegade Heart wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: The only people having with fun with ganking are the gankers This is wrong. There are antigankers having fun too, and then haulers like myself, as I previously said. Or do you not believe I have fun hauling? If there was no risk, it would be extremely boring stuff! confirming actually doing something about them is lots of fun...much more so than whining like a ten year old girl on the forums all day. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Tengu Grib Happy Fun times Spaceships in Space 620	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:05:46 - [47] - Quote Renegade Heart wrote: The fact that high sec is not a safe place makes the game more fun. I find hauling to be quite a fun activity, especially with valuable cargo. Hauling is a PvP activity, since you are hauling against the risk of being ganked by other players, and lots of players in EvE enjoy PvP because it is fun! As for CODE, well whatever conflict may occur between us in the game, they are creating content which can help people to have fun, and player-driven content is what EvE is all about. If there are players out there not enjoying themselves then maybe they should think about whether they are playing the right game! Of course, CCP seem to have decided that intracorp attacks will trigger a concord response in high sec, but they have previously stated that suicide ganking is here to stay. I think it is a bit of a step too far to say that suicide ganking is out of hand because it is still quite easy to have fun playing the game, and as long as that continues, I expect it will remain a valid game mechanic. This The New Order is recruiting PVP pilots. Code. Forums are the place to be, all are welcome! The Law of High Sec.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie The Conference Elite CODE. 1121	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:19:59 - [48] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Yeah, they killed a whole ten Freighers yesterday, dude. To me, that makes it seems like CCP needs to buff suicide ganking, since only the single largest group of gankers in the game can seem to get it done at any decent scale, and only then with a gigantic SRP for their members. Bascially this. 10 freighters is about 3-5 hours of ganking (its impossible for one fleet to average more than 1 freighter per 15 minutes). We aren't even able to pull the numbers to have simultaneous fleets. If you ever see a single group kill more than 96 freighters in a day, then you will know its out of hand. The really hilarious thing is that our freighter fleets are cash neutral even including the empty freighters we gank. The idiots carrying 3+ bill in cargo pay for everyone else to lose their ships. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21483	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:27:52 - [49] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: 1. CONCORD was designed to act as a law enforcement agency and punish criminals. There are 4 justifications for criminal punishment - 1. Moral retribution 2. rehabilitation 3. Protection of society from the individual criminal 4. Deterrence of other would be criminals 2,3,4 are certainly not occurring. And 1 would require far stiffer punishments, certainly restitution for the lost loot would be a minimum requirement. Law enforcement agencies that are unable to appropriately punish career criminals are not worthy of the name, and are little more than joke organizations. Concord has a 100% "conviction rate", name a real world criminal justice system that can claim the same. Quote: There is no way that someone who blows up 10 freighters in a single day would be free to roam the streets, subject only to a 15 minute timeout. Real life vs fantasy, know the difference. Quote: Also, the idea that without ganking highsec would be boring is not true - incursions offer a measure of PvP and competition without ganking....I find them enjoyable and engaging. We don't need capsuleer ships exploding to have fun. What CODE really does is cause individual players to avoid activities like hauling, which hardly makes highsec more interesting. Incursions : LOL, just because you find them to be fun doesn't mean that others do, personally I don't like incursions, mostly because of some of the elitist bellends that do them. Explosions : Destruction driven economy, and you're full of it. Quote: 2. With cloak + MWD + travel fit, close to 300k ehp, and not susceptible to bumping, you are virtually ungankable. It's just boring to need to travel like that in highsec....how is forcing people to use boring travel fits good for the game? How is outwitting and outmanoeuvring those that would gank you boring? Getting ganked is the only content the afk and lazy contribute to the game. Quote: 3. Awoxxing in highsec is deterring people from joining corporations. So are wardeccs. So is corporate theft. CCP realizes that deterring social engagement in highsec is bad for the game, and is taking steps to remedy that. I don't see how getting rid of awoxxing but keeping wardeccs and theft will accomplish that. CCP is prioritizing the 98% of non-gankers in highsec over the 2% of highsec that is gankers, which seems to be a fundamentally sound business move. CCP feel that awoxing is deterring people from joining corps, whether or not that is true remains to be seen, wardecs and corporate theft are a downside to being in a player corp, tax dodging, POS's etc are upsides, it balances out, also citation needed. Social engagement isn't only about sitting around a fire singing the theme to the carebears movie, it also includes shooting each other in the face. Anything that involves another player is social engagement, regardless of the circumstances. You are in no position to say what are, and what aren't, fundamentally sound business moves. People like you are why games like Eve are a minority, you and your ilk want games that require no thought, that lead you by the hand and wrap you in cotton wool. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 727	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:27:56 - [50] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: 1. CONCORD were designed to act as a lawn enforcement agency and punish criminals. There are 4 justifications for criminal punishment - 1. Moral retribution 2. rehabilitation 3. Protection of society from the individual criminal 4. Deterrence of other would be criminals 2,3,4 are certainly not occurring. And 1 would require far stiffer punishments, certainly restitution for the lost loot would be a minimum requirement. Law enforcement agencies that are unable to appropriately punish career criminals are not worthy of the name, and are little more than joke organizations. There is no way that someone who blows up 10 freighters in a single day would be free to roam the streets, subject only to a 15 minute timeout. Also, the idea that without ganking highsec would be boring is not true - incursions offer a measure of PvP and competition without ganking....I find them enjoyable and engaging. We don't need capsuleer ships exploding to have fun. What CODE really does is cause individual players to avoid activities like hauling, which hardly makes highsec more interesting. 3. With cloak + MWD + travel fit, close to 300k ehp, and not susceptible to bumping, you are virtually ungankable. It's just boring to need to travel like that in highsec....how is forcing people to use boring travel fits good for the game? 4. Awoxxing in highsec is deterring people from joining corporations. So are wardeccs. So is corporate theft. CCP realizes that deterring social engagement in highsec is bad for the game, and is taking steps to remedy that. I don't see how getting rid of awoxxing but keeping wardeccs and theft will accomplish that. CCP is prioritizing the 98% of non-gankers in highsec over the 2% of highsec that is gankers, which seems to be a fundamentally sound business move. internet spaceships veers, not real life. concord are a punitive mechanic not a civil service. 2,3 and 4 are the responsibility of players. Hey now! CONCORD does have some strong moral retribution tactics they use. You should see all the stern talkings I receive from them. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á

Iain Cariaba 615	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:29:18 - [51] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Renegade Heart wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Of course it's also not very exciting, and that tedium is the real result of CODE - spreading boredom as people take precautions to avoid the ganks. The fact that high sec is not a safe place makes the game more fun. I find hauling to be quite a fun activity, especially with valuable cargo. Hauling is a PvP activity, since you are hauling against the risk of being ganked by other players, and lots of players in EvE enjoy PvP because it is fun! As for CODE, well whatever conflict may occur between us in the game, they are creating content which can help people to have fun, and player-driven content is what EvE is all about. If there are players out there not enjoying themselves then maybe they should think about whether they are playing the right game! Of course, CCP seem to have decided that intracorp attacks will trigger a concord response in high sec, but they have previously stated that suicide ganking is here to stay. I think it is a bit of a step too far to say that suicide ganking is out of hand because it is still quite easy to have fun playing the game, and as long as that continues, I expect it will remain a valid game mechanic. I guess we have different definitions of "fun." The fact that when moving I need to spend a minute travel fitting my ships to make them 100% gankproof is not very "fun." It's actually pretty boring. The only people having with fun with ganking are the gankers...talk to the highsec victims and see how many are having "fun." I would expect an eventual crackdown on -10 gankers...the ability of CODE to sit in Uedama all day ganking freighters with no consequences will not be a long term reality....there is fundamentally no way in the current meta to really punish them, and I expect that to change. So you find having to gankproof your ship for travel to be boring? This seems to be entirely a personal problem. Personally, I kind of enjoy the little adrenaline rush I get when flying around with my highsec hauler. The fact that highsec is not 100% safe is part of the fun in this game. But then again, I haven't shiptoasted all over the forums to the point where every ganker in the game would have a nerdgasm over getting on my killmail. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6731	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:31:54 - [52] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: internet spaceships veers, not real life. concord are a punitive mechanic not a civil service. 2,3 and 4 are the responsibility of players. Hey now! CONCORD does have some strong moral retribution tactics they use. You should see all the stern talkings I receive from them. Does grumpy concord guy wag his finger at you?! i don't think i could handle a finger wagging like that. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
malcovas Henderson THoF 326	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:32:15 - [53] - Quote What I find is getting really out of hand, is the amount of Bad / Lazy players playing this game. The fact that Code's killboard is very nicely padded, is testament to that fact Bad / lazy Playing is a plague upon us, how long are CCP going to let this Carebear playerbase continue to destroy EvE.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21483	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:34:23 - [54] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: internet spaceships veers, not real life. concord are a punitive mechanic not a civil service. 2,3 and 4 are the responsibility of players. Hey now! CONCORD does have some strong moral retribution tactics they use. You should see all the stern talkings I receive from them. Does grumpy concord guy wag his finger at you?! i don't think i could handle that. More to the point, has someone given Angry Concord Guy a ride on their nightrod, and does he own a trained attack fedo and a wife-beater? "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6731	Posted - 2014.11.12 18:39:06 - [55] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: internet spaceships veers, not real life. concord are a punitive mechanic not a civil service. 2,3 and 4 are the responsibility of players. Hey now! CONCORD does have some strong moral retribution tactics they use. You should see all the stern talkings I receive from them. Does grumpy concord guy wag his finger at you?! i don't think i could handle that. More to the point, has someone given Angry Concord Guy a ride on their nightrod, and does he own a trained attack fedo and a wife-beater? he should "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:09:16 - [56] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Renegade Heart wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Of course it's also not very exciting, and that tedium is the real result of CODE - spreading boredom as people take precautions to avoid the ganks. The fact that high sec is not a safe place makes the game more fun. I find hauling to be quite a fun activity, especially with valuable cargo. Hauling is a PvP activity, since you are hauling against the risk of being ganked by other players, and lots of players in EvE enjoy PvP because it is fun! As for CODE, well whatever conflict may occur between us in the game, they are creating content which can help people to have fun, and player-driven content is what EvE is all about. If there are players out there not enjoying themselves then maybe they should think about whether they are playing the right game! Of course, CCP seem to have decided that intracorp attacks will trigger a concord response in high sec, but they have previously stated that suicide ganking is here to stay. I think it is a bit of a step too far to say that suicide ganking is out of hand because it is still quite easy to have fun playing the game, and as long as that continues, I expect it will remain a valid game mechanic. I guess we have different definitions of "fun." The fact that when moving I need to spend a minute travel fitting my ships to make them 100% gankproof is not very "fun." It's actually pretty boring. The only people having with fun with ganking are the gankers...talk to the highsec victims and see how many are having "fun." I would expect an eventual crackdown on -10 gankers...the ability of CODE to sit in Uedama all day ganking freighters with no consequences will not be a long term reality....there is fundamentally no way in the current meta to really punish them, and I expect that to change. So you find having to gankproof your ship for travel to be boring? This seems to be entirely a personal problem. Personally, I kind of enjoy the little adrenaline rush I get when flying around with my highsec hauler. The fact that highsec is not 100% safe is part of the fun in this game. But then again, I haven't shiptoasted all over the forums to the point where every ganker in the game would have a nerdgasm over getting on my killmail. How is that working out for the ganker clowns? 5,000 threats later, and not one legit kill....it turns out that the gankers are real good at blowing hot air on the forums and killing AFK haulers and AFK miners, but seem completely hapless against a single competent highsec PvE expert. Keep trying, jokers.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21486	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:17:29 - [57] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: How is that working out for the ganker clowns? Hypocrite, you tell others to refrain from using insults, and use insults to describe others.... Quote: 5,000 threats later, and not one legit kill Are your pants on fire? Because you're lying about that number. Opportunity vs effort, the first hasn't arisen yet, and you're not worth the second. Quote: it turns out that the gankers are real good at blowing hot air on the forums Pot, Kettle, Black. Quote: and killing AFK haulers and AFK miners, People who choose to be AFK, in a game where you tend to explode if you're AFK Quote: but seem completely hapless against a single competent highsec PvE expert. Keep trying, jokers. Oh look another lie, you're neither competent or an expert. Hapless, PvE and joker are the only honest things in it. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1772	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:24:38 - [58] - Quote Considering that this is a CODE. thread and that CODE. are very specifically focused on killing AFK players and players that willfully make no attempt to avoid destruction in an effort to make those individuals actually play the game rather than just sit afk in a belt or autopiloting for hours it should not be surprising that they haven't killed you when you've been taking extreme measures to avoid them killing you. In fact you're doing what they want you to do. Being an active participant in the game who is aware of and compensating for the dangers around them. The only issue is that you don't like adhering to a standard set by other players. Your option is this: don't take action to prevent being ganked and face the consequences.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:26:02 - [59] - Quote Well the insults started well before, if you care to read back...I am certainly entitled to defend myself, and will continue doing so. And the threats of retaliation for not following the troll "code" are legion, and all hot air. It turns out they don't have the competence to actually go after people who are expert at the game, like myself. So they will continue to go after new/casual players, collect tears, and eventually have CCP nerf their playstyle into oblivion. Remind you much of the awoxxers?
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6741	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:26:33 - [60] - Quote I told you before ~~veers~~ narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=

Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:28:40 - [61] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Considering that this is a CODE. thread and that CODE. are very specifically focused on killing AFK players and players that willfully make no attempt to avoid destruction in an effort to make those individuals actually play the game rather than just sit afk in a belt or autopiloting for hours it should not be surprising that they haven't killed you when you've been taking extreme measures to avoid them killing you. In fact you're doing what they want you to do. Being an active participant in the game who is aware of and compensating for the dangers around them. The only issue is that you don't like adhering to a standard set by other players. Your option is this: don't take action to prevent being ganked and face the consequences. Actually, CODE insisted that I buy their permit, and threatened ganking if such a purchase was not made. I told them to get stuffed. They also accused me of "mining" PvP, and promised to bring my "CODE compliance" level up to 100%....all empty words and empty threats with no one to back them up. They want to fundamentally change the risk/reward in highsec and get people to leave it, and, as far as it applies to me, they have failed miserably. Keep trying Codebros...I'm sure someday you will get the minimal level of competence to actually come after me.....
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 728	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:29:06 - [62] - Quote I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner! The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:29:45 - [63] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: I told you before ~~veers~~ narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head ....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1772	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:31:16 - [64] - Quote It sounds like you took a canned extortion attempt personally. That's kind of a you problem.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:31:39 - [65] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner! Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going? Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style . Might I suggest beam zealots?
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6741	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:32:45 - [66] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: I told you before ~~veers~~ narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head ....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online. No veers that actually proves that we can't even pay someone to spenspeime on you. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:33:25 - [67] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: It sounds like you took a canned extortion attempt personally. That's kind of a you problem. Yep, multiple front page mentions on their website, a 2 hour TS session, a 32 page bounty thread, 1 bil in bounty.....it wasn't personal at all....just the standard sales pitch I guess part of the problem is that the folks I dealt with the most never seem to log on anymore. It's hard to keep track with all the new faces. It would be nice to have a stable leadership team.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:35:04 - [68] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: I told you before ~~veers~~ narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head ....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online. No veers that actually proves that we can't even pay someone to spend time on you. That's because the people you tried to pay face the same problem you do - the complete inability to actually go after an elite PvE player like me. Your wardecc plan failed (roll corp ftw!), I quickly rejected the few would be awoxxers, I'm a massive specialist at fitting ships properly and avoiding would be gankers. Facing those impossible odds, who would really want to come after me?
malcovas Henderson THoF 327	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:38:14 - [69] - Quote rag week Tears?. you are coming across quite tetchy
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6742	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:42:02 - [70] - Quote malcovas Henderson wrote: rag week Tears?. you are coming across quite tetchy Shark week as my Partner calls it. this should help. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=

Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21487	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:43:22 - [71] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Well the insults started well before, if you care to read back...I am certainly entitled to defend myself, and will continue doing so. And the threats of retaliation for not following the troll "code" are legion, and all hot air. Regardless of who started the insults, you're failing to stick to the standards to which you hold others, which makes you a hypocrite. Quote: It turns out they don't have the competence to actually go after people who are expert at the game, like myself. ROFL, the only thing you're an expert is flattering your own ego. Virtually every post you make makes your claim to be an expert at Eve laughable and ridiculous. Quote: So they will continue to go after new/casual players You made up that particular demographic, since when did newbies fly mining barges and freighters? How do you define casual? Quote: collect tears, and eventually have CCP nerf their playstyle into oblivion. Not likely to happen. Gankers mainly prey on those that can't be bothered to be AFK or educate themselves about the nature of the game neither of which can be fixed by nerfing ganking Quote: Remind you much of the awoxxers? Nope, the criminal element will adapt to the proposed changes, as they have to every other change. People who can't be arsed to protect themselves will still explode, and then cry on the forums about how unfair it is that others can make their spaceships explode in a game where spaceships explode. Every nerf to highsec criminals has invariably backfired on those that called for it. If the proposed changes come to fruition I fully expect to see highsec criminals up their game and make those who are trying to get them nerfed pay the price for doing so. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:46:58 - [72] - Quote malcovas Henderson wrote: rag week Tears?. you are coming across quite tetchy Tetchy? Not sure what that means. I am obviously bothered by how Code/Goons continue to go after new/casual players, blow up their haulers, bankrupt them, and cause them to ragequit the game. I think that is fundamentally bad for Eve, and am happy to be a voice opposing the senseless violence. i hope the coming awoxx changes are the first step in creating a liveable and law abiding highsec...where crime is the exception - not the norm...and groups like CODE are properly brought to justice.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 742	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:49:30 - [73] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: Just through observation, CODE. continued to slaughter barges. With the varying number of kills, it is clear that these victims were not afkers, freighters don't go afk at belts, they were all people just paying CCP to play the game. And talk of tanking your mining barge against high alpha damage is false, that damage can not be tanked. Whole sale destruction like this isn't good for business. CCP is trying to get more people to play a game, and when people find out that they are paying money to get everything stolen from them in hi-sec space, they take their subscription money and go play a different game. Allowing this type of game play to continue is Bad for Business; for CCP and for our player base. Driving away paying customers is self-destructive. Allow me to whip this out... All of the wrong in one neat little bundle. Freighters do not go afk at belts, but sometimes their pilots go afk and turn on autopilot... or plot crappy routes through known chokepoints and not bother to use scouts or webbers to fast warp them through. Alpha damage can be tanked, there's these things called resistances... you jack them up vs the popular alpha damage types and suddenly that's not so very much. even a 75% reduction vs whatever reduces your alpha vs whatever by oh, 75%. Couple that with a healthy buffer and omg you just crafted a viable tank. Wholesale destruction is AWESOME for business, in game and out. In game it keeps the market flowing with increased demand for derpfitted barges and haulers. Out of game it helps enhance EVE's 'dirty girl who will cut you' reputation in the MMO market. If this really bugs you, and I mean this with no animosity, perhaps EVE isn't the game for you. STO, the various other space sims, or hell, even an Earth and Beyond emulator might be more your speed.
Tengu Grib Happy Fun times Spaceships in Space 620	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:54:22 - [74] - Quote malcovas Henderson wrote: What I find is getting really out of hand, is the amount of Bad / Lazy players playing this game. The fact that Code's killboard is very nicely padded, is testament to that fact Bad / lazy Playing is a plague upon us, how long are CCP going to let this Carebear playerbase continue to destroy EvE. I agree. Autopilot should be removed from the game. And mining should be a mini-game like hacking. The New Order is recruiting PVP pilots. Code. Forums are the place to be, all are welcome! The Law of High Sec.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21491	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:56:34 - [75] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: I am obviously bothered by how Code/Goons continue to go after new/casual players, blow up their haulers, bankrupt them, and cause them to ragequit the game. Citation needed, you also need to define the new/casual player demographic, as it's a term you made up and that nobody else uses. Quote: I think that is fundamentally bad for Eve, and am happy to be a voice opposing the senseless violence. I think that your moral crusade is fundamentally bad for Eve, which is why I am happy to be a voice of reason opposing the incredible amount of dumb you and your ilk display. Quote: i hope the ~~coming~~ proposed awoxx changes FTFY Quote: the first step in creating a liveable and law abiding highsec...where crime is the exception - not the norm...and groups like CODE are properly brought to justice. The first step would be you stepping up to the mark and actually doing something ingame, it is not up to CCP to provide, it is up to the players. Welcome to the sandbox. TL;DR Put up or shut up. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 19:57:16 - [76] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: malcovas Henderson wrote: What I find is getting really out of hand, is the amount of Bad / Lazy players playing this game. The fact that Code's killboard is very nicely padded, is testament to that fact Bad / lazy Playing is a plague upon us, how long are CCP going to let this Carebear playerbase continue to destroy EvE. I agree. Autopilot should be removed from the game. And mining should be a mini-game like hacking. Agree on mining, though I'd prefer that it be removed from the game entirely. As for autopiloting, it avoids boring travel, and needs a buff. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel.
Cetaphil Thrace The Back Yard Twilight Federation 23	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:01:12 - [77] - Quote Agree, remove mining and the market controlling freaks. And just so we are clear. CODE does not target new people, they target any miner that is un aware period. If you afk anything in this game you deserve what you get.
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 728	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:02:07 - [78] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner! Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going? Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style . Might I suggest beam zealots? Our lack of caring is not equivalent to lack of action. Regarding your standard statement of 'well incursion runners are still alive and you haven't attacked' is mostly due to really expensive AFK ships that just keep coming through and distracting us. I mean how can we REALLY let those 10B haulers go? You have been called out on multiple occasions to engage in friendly space PEW-PEW in both High & Low. Yet you never do. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 742	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:03:44 - [79] - Quote You seem to be overly proud of the many pages on the thread about yer bounty. Now, if we were to subtract the anslo/counter anslo poasts from that, we'd be looking about oh about maybe 8 pages. Buff autopilot? Surely you troll. It already got a buff, warp to 0. Way back in the day we all had to warp to 15km and pray to Yog Sothoth that we wouldn't get popped before we hit the gate. Take a moment to contemplate your bad.
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 84	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:07:40 - [80] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: As for autopiloting, ~~it avoids boring travel, and needs a buff~~ it means that I can be lazy and watch a film or sleep while I'm "playing" a game instead of having to put in any effort. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel because I'm too fornicating lazy to actually play the game I'm logged into . Fixed that for you. NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.

Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:07:46 - [81] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner! Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going? Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style . Might I suggest beam zealots? Our lack of caring is not equivalent to lack of action. Regarding your standard statement of 'well incursion runners are still alive and you haven't attacked' is mostly due to really expensive AFK ships that just keep coming through and distracting us. I mean how can we REALLY let those 10B haulers go? You have been called out on multiple occasions to engage in friendly space PEW-PEW in both High & Low. Yet you never do. So you admit to being easily distracted by shiny objects? Killing haulers is not bringing highsec into code compliance, you have been doing it for months and the trends are staying the same. Until you engage the elite PvE targets you have no hope of success.
malcovas Henderson THoF 328	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:08:02 - [82] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: malcovas Henderson wrote: What I find is getting really out of hand, is the amount of Bad / Lazy players playing this game. The fact that Code's killboard is very nicely padded, is testament to that fact Bad / lazy Playing is a plague upon us, how long are CCP going to let this Carebear playerbase continue to destroy EvE. I agree. Autopilot should be removed from the game. And mining should be a mini-game like hacking. Agree on mining, though I'd prefer that it be removed from the game entirely. As for autopiloting, it avoids boring travel, and needs a buff. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel. You already have instant travel. Is it CCP's fault you CBA to set it up?
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:09:03 - [83] - Quote Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: As for autopiloting, ~~it avoids boring travel, and needs a buff~~it means that I can be lazy and watch a film while I'm "playing" a game instead of having to put in any effort. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel because I'm too fornicating lazy to actually play the game I'm logged into . Fixed that for you. Confirming that "playing" Eve is fundamentally built around right clicking and pressing "jump" every 45 seconds. Doesn't sound like elite PvP or elite PvE, maybe we should call it elite Navigation?
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 728	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:11:52 - [84] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner! Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going? Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style . Might I suggest beam zealots? Our lack of caring is not equivalent to lack of action. Regarding your standard statement of 'well incursion runners are still alive and you haven't attacked' is mostly due to really expensive AFK ships that just keep coming through and distracting us. I mean how can we REALLY let those 10B haulers go? You have been called out on multiple occasions to engage in friendly space PEW-PEW in both High & Low. Yet you never do. So you admit to being easily distracted by shiny objects? Killing haulers is not bringing highsec into code compliance, you have been doing it for months and the trends are staying the same. Until you engage the elite PvE targets you have no hope of success. Do you try this hard to be this wrong all the time, or is it inherent? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 742	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:13:50 - [85] - Quote It has to be intentional, otherwise by now he'd have been right at least once on accident.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:14:06 - [86] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner! Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going? Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style . Might I suggest beam zealots? Our lack of caring is not equivalent to lack of action. Regarding your standard statement of 'well incursion runners are still alive and you haven't attacked' is mostly due to really expensive AFK ships that just keep coming through and distracting us. I mean how can we REALLY let those 10B haulers go? You have been called out on multiple occasions to engage in friendly space PEW-PEW in both High & Low. Yet you never do. So you admit to being easily distracted by shiny objects? Killing haulers is not bringing highsec into code compliance, you have been doing it for months and the trends are staying the same. Until you engage the elite PvE targets you have no hope of success. Do you try this hard to be this wrong all the time, or is it inherent? Can't recall the last time I've been wrong about something....certainly never happened when discussing Eve. Cute goggles by the way, have you considered making a product line? Keep working on those beam zealot skills.
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 86	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:17:44 - [87] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: As for autopiloting, ~~it avoids boring travel, and needs a buff~~it means that I can be lazy and watch a film while I'm "playing" a game instead of having to put in any effort. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel because I'm too fornicating lazy to actually play the game I'm logged into . Fixed that for you. Confirming that "playing" Eve is fundamentally built around right clicking and pressing "jump" every 45 seconds. Doesn't sound like elite PvP or elite PvE, maybe we should call it elite Navigation? You do realise that CCP just nixxed instant travel from another area of the game because it was OP as hell don't you? They're unlikely to implement something into the AP function that they just removed from elsewhere because simpering fools like you want them to. Warp to zero already exists btw, you have to be at the keyboard to do it though, which is entirely too much to ask of some people Quote: Can't recall the last time I've been wrong about something....certainly never happened when discussing Eve. This is a prime example of you being wrong. NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 853	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:20:00 - [88] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: Just through observation, CODE. continued to slaughter barges. With the varying number of kills, it is clear that these victims were not afkers, freighters don't go afk at belts, they were all people just paying CCP to play the game. I don't see the problem. They got exactly what they paid for. Remove insurance. This thread is the reason, why CCP should stop advertising any aspect of EVE PvE
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:20:06 - [89] - Quote Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: As for autopiloting, ~~it avoids boring travel, and needs a buff~~it means that I can be lazy and watch a film while I'm "playing" a game instead of having to put in any effort. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel because I'm too fornicating lazy to actually play the game I'm logged into . Fixed that for you. Confirming that "playing" Eve is fundamentally built around right clicking and pressing "jump" every 45 seconds. Doesn't sound like elite PvP or elite PvE, maybe we should call it elite Navigation? You do realise that CCP just nixxed instant travel from another area of the game because it was OP as hell don't you? They're unlikely to implement something into the AP function that they just removed from elsewhere because simpering fools like you want them to. Warp to zero already exists btw, you have to be at the keyboard to do it though, which is entirely too much to ask of some people Quote: Can't recall the last time I've been wrong about something....certainly never happened when discussing Eve. This is a prime example of you being wrong. They nerfed instatravel of CAPITALS because of hotdrops. Which has precisely nothing to do with autopiloting quickly in highsec.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21491	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:22:30 - [90] - Quote Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Can't recall the last time I've been wrong about something....certainly never happened when discussing Eve. This is a prime example of you being wrong. Everything he posts is an example of him being wrong, nothing new there. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.

Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:23:51 - [91] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Can't recall the last time I've been wrong about something....certainly never happened when discussing Eve. This is a prime example of you being wrong. Everything he posts is an example of him being wrong, nothing new there. So "wrong" that the gankers went into a rage and made a 32 page thread devoted to trying, and failing to kill me. Keep up the good work, and keep getting outclassed.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 742	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:24:33 - [92] - Quote Whenever Veers posts, I suddenly understand why my cat chases the laser pointer dot.
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 86	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:26:34 - [93] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: You do realise that CCP just nixxed instant travel from another area of the game because it was OP as hell don't you? They're unlikely to implement something into the AP function that they just removed from elsewhere because simpering fools like you want them to. They nerfed instatravel of CAPITALS because of hotdrops. Which has precisely nothing to do with autopiloting quickly in highsec. I'm well aware of why they nerfed it, it doesn't change the fact that instant travel is instant travel regardless of circumstances or location; therefore your point is moot. NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 853	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:29:38 - [94] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: I told you before ~~veers~~ narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head ....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online. One billion only? This must indded be frustrating after all those posts. Remove insurance. This thread is the reason, why CCP should stop advertising any aspect of EVE PvE
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:29:45 - [95] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: Whenever Veers posts, I suddenly understand why my cat chases the laser pointer dot. Seriously man. Pride. From what I can tell you're still a bit under a year old here, and claiming to be elite at every turn. A complete absence of humility is a disturbing thing, as it doesn't show confidence so much as a special flavor of blindness. Even those who I WOULD consider to be elite carry their losses as badges as much as their victories, admit to capacity for failure, and embrace a willingness to learn from their mistakes. In short, your relentless insistence of your own awesomeness kind of disturbs me, as it's unnatural. How sad...have you considered doing something about it? Like a wardecc? An awoxx? Placing a bounty? Suicide ganking? Making a 32 page bounty thread on the forums? Asking CCP for help? Maybe take CONCORD out of highsec? Why don't you get some friends and come hunt me down? I mean, are you so pathetic that you can't think of a single option how to handle this? Give your CEO Ralphie credit for one thing, he takes his losses like a man, he doesn't sit here and cry.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:30:53 - [96] - Quote Mara Pahrdi wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: I told you before ~~veers~~ narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head ....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online. One billion only? This must indded be frustrating after all those posts. I know! Reminds me of the anti-CODE miners....just walls of text of rage, but when it comes time to donate some isk to make a resistance movement, the collection pot ends up with a couple of pennies.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21491	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:31:58 - [97] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: So "wrong" that the gankers went into a rage and made a 32 page thread devoted to trying, and failing to kill me. You mean the thread where we basically extracted the urine out of you for 32 pages? Quote: Keep up the good work Thanks, I will. Quote: and keep getting outclassed. The only things you outclass most people in are the sheer amount of stupidity and narcissism you display. Anything else would require some semblance of rational thought and intelligence on your behalf, things you have failed to demonstrate so far. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
ggodhsup Raider corp 10	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:36:19 - [98] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: You seem to be overly proud of the many pages on the thread about yer bounty. Now, if we were to subtract the anslo/counter anslo poasts from that, we'd be looking about oh about maybe 8 pages. Buff autopilot? Surely you troll. It already got a buff, warp to 0. Way back in the day we all had to warp to 15km and pray to Yog Sothoth that we wouldn't get popped before we hit the gate. Take a moment to contemplate your bad. ^^this....warp to 0 made low-sec an amusement park.....and high-sec, the bounce house at the amusement park....afk players will get what they get. you want safety guaranteed? stay in station. EDIT: forgot to address veers directly.....this is for you insert amusement park mascot EDIT EDIT: veers your avatar is ugly.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:37:30 - [99] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: So "wrong" that the gankers went into a rage and made a 32 page thread devoted to trying, and failing to kill me. You mean the thread where we basically extracted the urine out of you for 32 pages? Quote: Keep up the good work Thanks, I will. Quote: and keep getting outclassed. The only things you outclass most people in are the sheer amount of stupidity and narcissism you display. Anything else would require some semblance of rational thought and intelligence on your behalf, things you have failed to demonstrate so far. Oh ya, cause I was the one with enough rage to make a 32 page bounty thread. Keep trying, and failing, to stop me. Even the combined efforts of CODE/Goons couldn't stop my posting what I want, when I want. No amount of bounty can remedy your collective incompetence.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 744	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:41:20 - [100] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Omar Alharazaad wrote: Whenever Veers posts, I suddenly understand why my cat chases the laser pointer dot. Seriously man. Pride. From what I can tell you're still a bit under a year old here, and claiming to be elite at every turn. A complete absence of humility is a disturbing thing, as it doesn't show confidence so much as a special flavor of blindness. Even those who I WOULD consider to be elite carry their losses as badges as much as their victories, admit to capacity for failure, and embrace a willingness to learn from their mistakes. In short, your relentless insistence of your own awesomeness kind of disturbs me, as it's unnatural. How sad...have you considered doing something about it? Like a wardecc? An awoxx? Placing a bounty? Suicide ganking? Making a 32 page bounty thread on the forums? Asking CCP for help? Maybe take CONCORD out of highsec? Why don't you get some friends and come hunt me down? I mean, are you so pathetic that you can't think of a single option how to handle this? Give your CEO Ralphie credit for one thing, he takes his losses like a man, he doesn't sit here and cry. I, uh... don't even know where to begin. Wait. I do. You do realize that Ralph isn't my CEO? And yeah, I'm about the last person you're gonna hear asking for nerfs in this game. Were I to take a card from your deck at this time I'd go for the 'omg, personal attacks, halp!' card... but I won't. Again with the 32 page thread thing... once again, you do realize that about 25 pages of that was Anslo vs those who don't like Anslo? Also, asking a man who's publicly admitted to badtouching his fedo in a drunken stupor just how pathetic he is seems pointless, as I can attest that no matter how pathetic you THINK I am, I am by and far much more pathetic than that. I don't gank... I tickle and whisper dirty nothings into the ears of my victims til they shoot me first. Awoxing your corp would leave a stain on any alt of mine's employment history that even biomassing wouldn't erase, as I'd still remember. And the only thing that makes me cry is when I'm halfway there and I realize the hooker's already dead. I still finish, but it makes me cry a little. Edit: And to be fair, I did add to that bounty an amount that I considered far more than reasonable.

CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 728	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:43:05 - [101] - Quote I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Iain Cariaba 618	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:45:15 - [102] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: So "wrong" that the gankers went into a rage and made a 32 page thread devoted to trying, and failing to kill me. You mean the thread where we basically extracted the urine out of you for 32 pages? Quote: Keep up the good work Thanks, I will. Quote: and keep getting outclassed. The only things you outclass most people in are the sheer amount of stupidity and narcissism you display. Anything else would require some semblance of rational thought and intelligence on your behalf, things you have failed to demonstrate so far. Oh ya, cause I was the one with enough rage to make a 32 page bounty thread. Keep trying, and failing, to stop me. Even the combined efforts of CODE/Goons couldn't stop my posting what I want, when I want. No amount of bounty can remedy your collective incompetence. You know, Veers, they make medications to treat these delusions of mediocrity you're having here. Perhaps some professional help is called for. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21491	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:45:25 - [103] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Oh ya, cause I was the one with enough rage to make a 32 page bounty thread. Of which 22% (144 posts)was you shitposting Quote: Keep trying, and failing, to stop me. Even the combined efforts of CODE/Goons couldn't stop my posting what I want, when I want. We're not trying to stop you posting, you provide hours of entertainment with your misinformed opinions, ego stroking and just plain dumb ideas. [quote]No amount of bounty can remedy your ~~collective~~ incompetence. Unlike that thread, this one isn't about you. Kindly stop projecting your personal inadequacies on to people that do actually understand how game mechanics work, and the game that they're playing. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:45:56 - [104] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays. Yep - CODE humiliated, a 32 page failed bounty thread, a failed campaign against mission and incursion runners, and key members of their leadership quitting Eve = Veers tears. Nice to know Loyalanon has taught your guys how to think properly. Don't forget the obligatory - The Code Always Wins !!!!! and don't forget to purchase a Veers permit for 30 million Isk.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:46:55 - [105] - Quote ggodhsup wrote: Omar Alharazaad wrote: You seem to be overly proud of the many pages on the thread about yer bounty. Now, if we were to subtract the anslo/counter anslo poasts from that, we'd be looking about oh about maybe 8 pages. Buff autopilot? Surely you troll. It already got a buff, warp to 0. Way back in the day we all had to warp to 15km and pray to Yog Sothoth that we wouldn't get popped before we hit the gate. Take a moment to contemplate your bad. ^^this....warp to 0 made low-sec an amusement park.....and high-sec, the bounce house at the amusement park....afk players will get what they get. you want safety guaranteed? stay in station. EDIT: forgot to address veers directly.....this is for you insert amusement park mascot EDIT EDIT: veers your avatar is ugly. And woah - my avatar ROCKS.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 854	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:50:02 - [106] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Mara Pahrdi wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: I told you before ~~veers~~ narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head ....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online. One billion only? This must indded be frustrating after all those posts. I know! Reminds me of the anti-CODE miners....just walls of text of rage, but when it comes time to donate some isk to make a resistance movement, the collection pot ends up with a couple of pennies. Well, EVE is a harsh and cold mistress . Remove insurance. This thread is the reason, why CCP should stop advertising any aspect of EVE PvE
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 21492	Posted - 2014.11.12 20:52:05 - [107] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays. Would you recommend white meat, red meat or fish to go with that fine vintage? Enquiring minds want to know. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 733	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:34:19 - [108] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays. Would you recommend white meat, red meat or fish to go with that fine vintage? Enquiring minds want to know. Ideal pairings would be roasted lamb, soft aged cheeses, and tart/acidic fruits. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 The Conference Elite CODE. 734	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:34:19 - [109] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays. Would you recommend white meat, red meat or fish to go with that fine vintage? Enquiring minds want to know. Ideal pairings would be roasted lamb, soft aged cheeses, and tart/acidic fruits. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Tengu Grib Happy Fun times Spaceships in Space 621	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:35:41 - [110] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays. Would you recommend white meat, red meat or fish to go with that fine vintage? Enquiring minds want to know. Ideal pairings would be roasted lamb, soft aged cheeses, and tart/acidic fruits. What sort of dessert? The New Order is recruiting PVP pilots. Code. Forums are the place to be, all are welcome! The Law of High Sec.

CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 733	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:43:43 - [111] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays. Would you recommend white meat, red meat or fish to go with that fine vintage? Enquiring minds want to know. Ideal pairings would be roasted lamb, soft aged cheeses, and tart/acidic fruits. What sort of dessert? Bittersweet chocolate clearly. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 The Conference Elite CODE. 734	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:43:43 - [112] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays. Would you recommend white meat, red meat or fish to go with that fine vintage? Enquiring minds want to know. Ideal pairings would be roasted lamb, soft aged cheeses, and tart/acidic fruits. What sort of dessert? Bittersweet chocolate clearly. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Renegade Heart Smack My Ship Up 280	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:46:44 - [113] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: 32 pages blah blah blah I wonder how these threads become so large!
Iain Cariaba 620	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:57:04 - [114] - Quote ggodhsup wrote: EDIT EDIT: veers your avatar is ugly. Actually, his avatar is just right. The facial expression fits perfectly for someone just waiting to shiptoast all over the place, a veritable torrent of shiptoast, if only he could reach the plug keeping the shiptoasting to a tolerable level. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10584	Posted - 2014.11.12 21:57:53 - [115] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays. Would you recommend white meat, red meat or fish to go with that fine vintage? Enquiring minds want to know. Ideal pairings would be roasted lamb, soft aged cheeses, and tart/acidic fruits. What sort of dessert? Bittersweet chocolate clearly. And now I'm hungry, four whole hours before my dinner starts. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Tengu Grib Happy Fun times Spaceships in Space 622	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:22:24 - [116] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays. Would you recommend white meat, red meat or fish to go with that fine vintage? Enquiring minds want to know. Ideal pairings would be roasted lamb, soft aged cheeses, and tart/acidic fruits. What sort of dessert? Bittersweet chocolate clearly. Apologies, I was tired. You are correct of course, the answer should have been obvious. The New Order is recruiting PVP pilots. Code. Forums are the place to be, all are welcome! The Law of High Sec.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:56:03 - [117] - Quote Well, I guess CODE discussing recipes is better than CODE ganking new/casual players and getting people to ragequit the game. Another job well done by Veers, the hero of highsec.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6761	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:57:45 - [118] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: ggodhsup wrote: Omar Alharazaad wrote: You seem to be overly proud of the many pages on the thread about yer bounty. Now, if we were to subtract the anslo/counter anslo poasts from that, we'd be looking about oh about maybe 8 pages. Buff autopilot? Surely you troll. It already got a buff, warp to 0. Way back in the day we all had to warp to 15km and pray to Yog Sothoth that we wouldn't get popped before we hit the gate. Take a moment to contemplate your bad. ^^this....warp to 0 made low-sec an amusement park.....and high-sec, the bounce house at the amusement park....afk players will get what they get. you want safety guaranteed? stay in station. EDIT: forgot to address veers directly.....this is for you insert amusement park mascot EDIT EDIT: veers your avatar is ugly. And woah - my avatar ROCKS. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9YuuNXDjRkFhc-q99JDIvLpJfZeOyXH_fgkXg7gTz5MJ-N2sTlA "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Tengu Grib Happy Fun times Spaceships in Space 623	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:58:59 - [119] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Well, I guess CODE discussing recipes is better than CODE ganking new/casual players and getting people to ragequit the game. Another job well done by Veers, the hero of highsec. Who says we can't do both at the same time? The New Order is recruiting PVP pilots. Code. Forums are the place to be, all are welcome! The Law of High Sec.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:08:01 - [120] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Well, I guess CODE discussing recipes is better than CODE ganking new/casual players and getting people to ragequit the game. Another job well done by Veers, the hero of highsec. Who says we can't do both at the same time? You guys can't take down a simple solo L4 and incursion runner. You think you are capable of multitasking dump posting and ganking? Maybe you should make a second 32 page bounty thread? If at first you fail miserably, keep doing the exact same thing hoping it will succeed.

Tengu Grib Happy Fun times Spaceships in Space 623	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:29:32 - [121] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Well, I guess CODE discussing recipes is better than CODE ganking new/casual players and getting people to ragequit the game. Another job well done by Veers, the hero of highsec. Who says we can't do both at the same time? You guys can't take down a simple solo L4 and incursion runner. You think you are capable of multitasking dumb posting and ganking? Maybe you should make a second 32 page bounty thread? If at first you fail miserably, keep doing the exact same thing hoping it will succeed. Fail miserably? That thread was a wonderful success and accomplished all of it's intended goals. I don't expect you to understand though, you've proven again and again that you are far too obtuse to see the Truth. The New Order is recruiting PVP pilots. Code. Forums are the place to be, all are welcome! The Law of High Sec.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:01:10 - [122] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Well, I guess CODE discussing recipes is better than CODE ganking new/casual players and getting people to ragequit the game. Another job well done by Veers, the hero of highsec. Who says we can't do both at the same time? You guys can't take down a simple solo L4 and incursion runner. You think you are capable of multitasking dumb posting and ganking? Maybe you should make a second 32 page bounty thread? If at first you fail miserably, keep doing the exact same thing hoping it will succeed. Fail miserably? That thread was a wonderful success and accomplished all of it's intended goals. I don't expect you to understand though, you've proven again and again that you are far too obtuse to see the Truth. That a 32 page obsessive thread was created to try and get me killed, and failed miserably, is yet another feather in my cap, and something I am happy to trumpet. Veers stared down the Belligerent Undesirables, and Veers, as per usual, won. Thanks for the free publicity, scrub. Can you get me on EveNews or TMC for my next booking?
Leto Thule Whelp Club 1591	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:36:43 - [123] - Quote Posting in another bad thread made even worse by veers. Veers Belvar wrote: That a 32 page obsessive thread was created to try and get me killed, and failed miserably, is yet another feather in my cap, and something I am happy to trumpet. Veers stared down the Belligerent Undesirables, and Veers, as per usual, won. Thanks for the free publicity, scrub. Can you get me on EveNews or TMC for my next booking? Come on man, even you cant be that daft. Those threads are a C&P inside joke that everyone gets but YOU, who cannot seem to grasp that. IT IS A JOKE. If we all really were gunning for Veers Belvar corpses, we would certainly have them, or you would spend much time logged off, in station, or on alts. Trust me, its not because your so awesome at EvE. Killboard https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ Ripard Teg sucks.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 265	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:45:32 - [124] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Posting in another bad thread made even worse by veers. Veers Belvar wrote: That a 32 page obsessive thread was created to try and get me killed, and failed miserably, is yet another feather in my cap, and something I am happy to trumpet. Veers stared down the Belligerent Undesirables, and Veers, as per usual, won. Thanks for the free publicity, scrub. Can you get me on EveNews or TMC for my next booking? Come on man, even you cant be that daft. Those threads are a C&P inside joke that everyone gets but YOU, who cannot seem to grasp that. IT IS A JOKE. If we all really were gunning for Veers Belvar corpses, we would certainly have them, or you would spend much time logged off, in station, or on alts. Trust me, its not because your so awesome at EvE. Nice try buddy.....We failed to kill you because....uh....we didn't try. Keep up the heaps of fail and bad work.
Mag's the united 18160	Posted - 2014.11.13 00:57:16 - [125] - Quote It's OK guys, Veers doesn't understand Eve. So he's never going to understand C&P. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec 3600	Posted - 2014.11.13 01:58:36 - [126] - Quote came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him Ganking doesn't need a purpose, the gank is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I gank.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 268	Posted - 2014.11.13 02:52:54 - [127] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game.
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec 3601	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:05:59 - [128] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game. If it's all hot air, I have a high collateral freighter sized contract you can take through Uedama for me. www.minerbumping.com - Mining accidents are on the increase. Don't become a statistic, become a permit holder! Ganking doesn't need a purpose, the gank is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I gank.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 268	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:12:12 - [129] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game. If it's all hot air, I have a high collateral freighter sized contract you can take through Uedama for me. I'd consider it...even though I can't fly a freighter. Thing is hauling is REALLY BORING, and I'm a guy who doesn't do boring things. So to get me to train worthless skills and actually do a freighter is gonna cost ya like 20 billion isk...not sure you can afford it.
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 736	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:18:47 - [130] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game. If it's all hot air, I have a high collateral freighter sized contract you can take through Uedama for me. I'd consider it...even though I can't fly a freighter. Thing is hauling is REALLY BORING, and I'm a guy who doesn't do boring things. So to get me to train worthless skills and actually do a freighter is gonna cost ya like 20 billion isk...not sure you can afford it. Veers, anything you train is a worthless skill. It's not the skills fault though, I tend to place the blame on the user interaction during gameplay. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á

Anal Canal The Conference Elite CODE. 738	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:18:47 - [131] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game. If it's all hot air, I have a high collateral freighter sized contract you can take through Uedama for me. I'd consider it...even though I can't fly a freighter. Thing is hauling is REALLY BORING, and I'm a guy who doesn't do boring things. So to get me to train worthless skills and actually do a freighter is gonna cost ya like 20 billion isk...not sure you can afford it. Veers, anything you train is a worthless skill. It's not the skills fault though, I tend to place the blame on the user interaction during gameplay. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 The Conference Elite CODE. 739	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:18:47 - [132] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game. If it's all hot air, I have a high collateral freighter sized contract you can take through Uedama for me. I'd consider it...even though I can't fly a freighter. Thing is hauling is REALLY BORING, and I'm a guy who doesn't do boring things. So to get me to train worthless skills and actually do a freighter is gonna cost ya like 20 billion isk...not sure you can afford it. Veers, anything you train is a worthless skill. It's not the skills fault though, I tend to place the blame on the user interaction during gameplay. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Formerly Known AsAC The Conference Elite CODE. 740	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:18:47 - [133] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game. If it's all hot air, I have a high collateral freighter sized contract you can take through Uedama for me. I'd consider it...even though I can't fly a freighter. Thing is hauling is REALLY BORING, and I'm a guy who doesn't do boring things. So to get me to train worthless skills and actually do a freighter is gonna cost ya like 20 billion isk...not sure you can afford it. Veers, anything you train is a worthless skill. It's not the skills fault though, I tend to place the blame on the user interaction during gameplay. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 268	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:21:29 - [134] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game. If it's all hot air, I have a high collateral freighter sized contract you can take through Uedama for me. I'd consider it...even though I can't fly a freighter. Thing is hauling is REALLY BORING, and I'm a guy who doesn't do boring things. So to get me to train worthless skills and actually do a freighter is gonna cost ya like 20 billion isk...not sure you can afford it. Veers, anything you train is a worthless skill. It's not the skills fault though, I tend to place the blame on the user interaction during gameplay. Funny, my skills seem to be helping me "mine" red crosses in highsec for well over 100 mil/hour without a mining permit... What are you going to do about it? Oh wait, cry, make some lame jokes, kill some hapless AFK miners and haulers....and.....nothing. You sure are a fearsome presence in highsec. Have you considered Tic Tac Toe?
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec 3602	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:23:08 - [135] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Veers, anything you train is a worthless skill. It's not the skills fault though, I tend to place the blame on the user interaction during gameplay. Mr Canal. I was going to make a much longer, much less eloquent variant on this comment, but you just did it much better. Also Veers - you might want to read up on the contract interface before making a fool of yourself again. Suggesting a third party be involved as a third party in a collateralized courier contract is somewhat odd when the game client serves as a 100% honest third party. I resepct my adversaries until they prove themselves unworthy of respect. You appear determined to destroy what little scraps of respect I have left for you. www.minerbumping.com - Mining accidents are on the increase. Don't become a statistic, become a permit holder! Ganking doesn't need a purpose, the gank is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I gank.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 269	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:26:21 - [136] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: CODE Agent AC wrote: Veers, anything you train is a worthless skill. It's not the skills fault though, I tend to place the blame on the user interaction during gameplay. Mr Canal. I was going to make a much longer, much less eloquent variant on this comment, but you just did it much better. Also Veers - you might want to read up on the contract interface before making a fool of yourself again. Suggesting a third party be involved as a third party in a collateralized courier contract is somewhat odd when the game client serves as a 100% honest third party. I resepct my adversaries until they prove themselves unworthy of respect. You appear determined to destroy what little scraps of respect I have left for you. Trust me, I haven't a shred of respect for you and the rest of the CODE griefers. As a well known scammer I would expect you to try and manipulate the contract, and somehow contrive to scam me. I learned not to trust thieves and scammers, hence the use of a legitimate third party so that I don't need to risk being scammed. Anyhow - stick to the incursion gank contest - it was a perfect demonstration of your absolute (lack of) competence. Just hope you found a happy home for those Rattlesnake hulls.
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec 3604	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:33:43 - [137] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Trust me, I haven't a shred of respect for you and the rest of the CODE griefers. As a well known scammer I would expect you to try and manipulate the contract, and somehow contrive to scam me. I learned not to trust thieves and scammers, hence the use of a legitimate third party so that I don't need to risk being scammed. Anyhow - stick to the incursion gank contest - it was a perfect demonstration of your absolute (lack of) competence. Just hope you found a happy home for those Rattlesnake hulls. Unfortunately, real life issues meant I did not have time to run that contest. Things like that happen and participants that demonstrated results received some prizes. I firmly believe RL comes before a game. Incidentally, this is the same reason I'm not going to EVE Down Under. I do find it hilarious that when I challenge you to take an overcollateralized freighter load through Uedama you don't even know how to respond. If you didn't fear gankers, you'd do it because the only way you could be 'scammed' would be if the freighter got blown up. www.minerbumping.com - Mining accidents are on the increase. Don't become a statistic, become a permit holder! Ganking doesn't need a purpose, the gank is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I gank.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 269	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:38:22 - [138] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Trust me, I haven't a shred of respect for you and the rest of the CODE griefers. As a well known scammer I would expect you to try and manipulate the contract, and somehow contrive to scam me. I learned not to trust thieves and scammers, hence the use of a legitimate third party so that I don't need to risk being scammed. Anyhow - stick to the incursion gank contest - it was a perfect demonstration of your absolute (lack of) competence. Just hope you found a happy home for those Rattlesnake hulls. Unfortunately, real life issues meant I did not have time to run that contest. Things like that happen and participants that demonstrated results received some prizes. I firmly believe RL comes before a game. Incidentally, this is the same reason I'm not going to EVE Down Under. I do find it hilarious that when I challenge you to take an overcollateralized freighter load through Uedama you don't even know how to respond. If you didn't fear gankers, you'd do it because the only way you could be 'scammed' would be if the freighter got blown up. Yes, I'm sure that's what happened...not the total lack of kills. You can fool stupid people sometimes, and smart people not at all. As I said, I can't fly freighters and hauling is boring. For the right price relative to the collateral I guess I'll take the contract and switch it to someone else. I mean if you really make it worth my time I will buy a freighter pilot, assign the contract to him, and run when CODE is asleep. How much are you willing to pay for this? I'm thinking at least 10 bil payment.....
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6770	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:39:35 - [139] - Quote I told ye like a month ago that you would never actually have to discredit him, just keep him talking long enough and he'll do a better job of that himself than any of us ever could. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 269	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:41:05 - [140] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: I told ye like a month ago that you would never actually have to discredit him, just keep him talking long enough and he'll do a better job of that himself than any of us ever could. Heck of a job, Ralphie. How about another 32 page bounty thread to try and silence me? Worked great the first time.

Michael Ruckert SECURE TRANSPORTS 216	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:07:04 - [141] - Quote I've posted in C&P about two Orcas with no mining permits orbiting a station for weeks in a 0.8 system. CODE has never shown up. Just like they did in the Alliance Tournament. CODE - "Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing." "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 751	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:21:14 - [142] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: If it's not about me I shall make it about me! And the band played on, seemingly unawares.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 270	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:25:23 - [143] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: If it's not about me I shall make it about me! And the band played on, seemingly unawares. Someone gotta take on the CODE trolls...might as well be me. Not like they are capable of doing anything about it. Maybe they should run another incursion gank contest - lolz....
Leto Thule Whelp Club 1591	Posted - 2014.11.13 05:47:27 - [144] - Quote I am now 100% convinced veers is just a troll. There is NO WAY he is this inept at simple comprehension. Lucas Kell alt? Killboard https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ Ripard Teg sucks.
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 3609	Posted - 2014.11.13 06:01:28 - [145] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: I am now 100% convinced veers is just a troll. There is NO WAY he is this inept at simple comprehension. Lucas Kell alt? If he is a Loyalanon alt, then he is truly a master troll. www.minerbumping.com - Mining accidents are on the increase. Don't become a statistic, become a permit holder! Ganking doesn't need a purpose, the gank is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I gank.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 272	Posted - 2014.11.13 06:02:29 - [146] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Leto Thule wrote: I am now 100% convinced veers is just a troll. There is NO WAY he is this inept at simple comprehension. Lucas Kell alt? If he is a Loyalanon alt, then he is truly a master troll. The only trolls here are you folks and your "Code" garbage....trying to grief people for playing the game. Not only irritating, but incompetent too. Time for a new scam. Edit - and considering I did a 2 hour TS with Loyalanon, probably not an alt of his. Veers has been, and will always be, my main.
Hippinse University of Caille Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.11.13 06:11:26 - [147] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: I am now 100% convinced veers is just a troll. There is NO WAY he is this inept at simple comprehension. Lucas Kell alt? Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 752	Posted - 2014.11.13 06:31:21 - [148] - Quote Hope for the hopeless, help for the helplessly hopeful... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk1AMsE1I44 I believe I believe I believe you're one of them, you're one of THOSE things...


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