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Hilen Tukoss
Eifyr and Co. Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.12 16:22:36 -
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TRANSPONDER 6612 ALLIGNED >> BROADCAST INITIATEGǪ
TRAFFIC SCRUBBING ACTIVE, GAIN GÇô 82.114 % NOMINALGǪ PACKET LOSS GÇô 72.176% >> 66ms >> -- >> 1088ms >> -- >> 931ms >> 404ms >> +366470.5504 >> +021452.0104 >> 5586152.0017 >> LOCKED IN >> ROUTER CONTACT ESTABLISHED - TRANSPONDER ID HASH 30003453-50008995-50006664 >> LAYER 44602117/FF
>> COMMENCING BROADCASTGǪ
>>
>>
Th --- -- ission I hav --- --- ----- ---- ---- ke in so --- - -- - - -- -- s is Dr Hil --- - -- - - - oss, broa--- - - -- - -- - w band eme --- - - - -- - cy FTL GÇô IGÇÖm uns --- - - - - - - he exact fr - - - - - -- ---cy. Site On --- - -- --- ---- sed. All sta --- -- - - - ----olved wi ---- -- - - --- kGÇÖJal ---- ----- oject sho ---- ---- ider it inse--- - ---- --- d should aba --- -- -- ----- y equi --- --rein, cons --- ---- ----- ---- amin ---- -- ---- - - - - gard the pre--- -- -- - s commun -- --- -- - -- s from wh ----- - - - - - ----pears to be m- -- NeoC---- -- -- ir inte------ - is misdir --- - -- -- -n the p- - - - -- -se who ha --- ------trained. DT coope -- - --- h the - -- - - all c - - --- - I ha ---- -- - --pted to ma ----- --ct --- - -- - - yr & C--- - --- -- ail, in or -------- lay det-- - - -- - -- -y situa - - - - -. It is my la- - -- ----- e tha-- - - - - -- ransmissi- -- - - - - e pick--- - - - - - he FTL networ--- - -- - dcast t--- -- -nent pl I am cu--- - - - - inst my wi--- - -- --- tors are unkno -- -- - -- -- he few det --- - -- -- urrou --- -- - -- - e bee--- -- - -- -- -- - -- ertain, I am bei - -- - -- - --ld somewh -- - kis. The ava - - - - ata tha---- - -- - -- ther wo-- -- - -- - ---- -- - est some--- ---- e pro---- --- -et, given luminos---- - - -d gravity signatures. It is impe---- - - he cap---- - skforce dedica--- - - -- - laan contin----- - - - ir work i--- -- - ence. With---- - - - -- - - - - sence, t--- - - -- ject mus--- - -- - nue to adva---- - - -- - - cent ------ - - - ation --- - - received. I beli---- - - - - - - - - - -- - --------------- -- - tors to be ----- - - - -- s, fear- --- - - -- vent ---- - - - ranspiring, and - - - - - - -- - - ate of -- - - - -nic. I emp--- - - - - -- all to conti---- - - - - -- rther the - - - -- - - - kGÇÖJalaan proj---- - - - - - tinue to wo ---- - -- - - lution. ---- - - - - ate of the ---- ject ---- - - - in yo-- - - nds, and ---- - - - - - re is any --- - - - - - -- - - - - - ----- -- - - - - -- - - - - in future, I - - - - - - - ------l endea------------ - - - - - - o so. D--- - - - -- - rch --- - - m --- - -- - anger I - - - - -------- - - -o gr-- -- -- ---
>> CONNECTION TERMINATED << 0411632 - //ROUTER TOKEN EXPIRY GÇô 116//01/20 GÇô 14:29 TRANSPONDER ID HASH - 30003412-30003453 / LAYER 44602117/FF DISCONNECT
ERROR CODE:
464f5243454420444953434f4e4e454354 545950453d555345524143434f554e54414343455353464c555348
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Avio Yaken
Scope Works
1517
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Posted - 2014.11.12 16:25:01 -
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So this is what they mean by
"**** just got real"
One does not simply, Cope with the scope
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
3372
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Posted - 2014.11.12 16:31:52 -
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Hurry up and die, traitor.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Internal Affairs
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Anslo
Scope Works
21188
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Posted - 2014.11.12 16:36:28 -
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Avio Yaken wrote:So this is what they mean by
"**** just got real" Yeah, it did. You know what to do. Proceed.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
127
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Posted - 2014.11.12 16:41:54 -
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Avio Yaken wrote:So this is what they mean by
"**** just got real"
This could be the very definition. Additionally, this makes me think that /this/ might be the first genuine contact we have received from Dr Tukoss.
As an aside: since i like to leaven my paranoia with a pinch of realism... Do those dashes look like they have a bit more of a -erm- pattern to them? They look like more than just placeholders for missing letters?
Anyone?
/me digs for her Pattern Recognition skillbook...
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Avio Yaken
Scope Works
1521
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Posted - 2014.11.12 16:44:13 -
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For some reason i can actually make out a lot of that message....
most of its obvious words that are cut off but it could be easy to piece together if someone has the time and knowledge
Sadly i do not think we have time...
One does not simply, Cope with the scope
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6443
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Posted - 2014.11.12 16:48:35 -
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Hilen Tukoss wrote:>> CONNECTION TERMINATED << 0411632 - //ROUTER TOKEN EXPIRY GÇô 116//01/20 GÇô 14:29 TRANSPONDER ID HASH - 30003412-30003453 / LAYER 44602117/FF DISCONNECT
ERROR CODE:
464f5243454420444953434f4e4e454354 545950453d555345524143434f554e54414343455353464c555348
FORCED DISCONNECTTYPE=USERACCOUNTACCESSFLUSH
One moment and I'll see if I can do something about the text.
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Anslo
Scope Works
21189
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:14:44 -
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BE ADVISED. FOR ANYONE TOO DENSE TO REALIZE SITE ONE IS LIKELY HOT AND HOSTILE. WILL CONFIRM SHORTLY.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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iyammarrok
Stellar Essence Open Space Consultancy
199
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:18:37 -
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ok.... so, not getting much of that at the moment apart from the most worrying bit.
he's being held somewhere in anoikis, by persons or entities unknown.
and site one is compromised...
hmmm...
seems a transport mission might be about to happen, something Tukoss wants to keep safe.
but hell, being held somewhere in anoikis... I wonder if the turrets have names.
Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1457
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:21:56 -
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Anslo wrote:BE ADVISED. FOR ANYONE TOO DENSE TO REALIZE SITE ONE IS LIKELY HOT AND HOSTILE. WILL CONFIRM SHORTLY. Aside from a pair of your underlings, it's rather quiet.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Owner, The Golden Masque
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Anslo
Scope Works
21189
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:24:17 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:Anslo wrote:BE ADVISED. FOR ANYONE TOO DENSE TO REALIZE SITE ONE IS LIKELY HOT AND HOSTILE. WILL CONFIRM SHORTLY. Aside from a pair of your underlings, it's rather quiet.
Edited my original post to confirm. The hell is going on then?
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
166
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:24:33 -
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I am by no means a cryptography expert, but:
Hilen Tukoss wrote: The transmissions I have sent are fake (??) Anyone, this is Dr Hilen Tukoss, broadcasting over w band emergency FTL GÇô IGÇÖm unsure of the exact frequency.
Site One compromised. All stations and personnel involved with Arek'Jalaan Project should consider it (??) and should abandon any equipment, (??), construction
Disregard the previous communications from what appears to be my NeoCom. Their intention is misdirection (??) n the p- - - - -- -se who ha --- ------trained. DT cooperate with them at all costs!
I have attempted to make contact with Eifyr & Co
--- - --- -- ail, in or -------- lay det-- - - -- - -- -y situa - - - - -. It is my la- - -- ----- e tha-- - - - - -- ransmissi- -- - - - - e pick--- - - - - - he FTL networ--- - -- - dcast t--- -- -nent pl
I am currently held against my will, captors are unkown. The few details....surroundings.....certain, I am being held somewhere in Anoikis.
The ava - - - - ata tha---- - -- - -- ther wo-- -- - -- - ---- -- - est some--- ---- e pro---- --- -et, given luminos---- - - -d gravity signatures.
It is imperative the capsuleer taskforce dedicated to Arek'Jalaan continue their work in my absence!
With---- - - - -- - - - - sence, t--- - - -- ject mus--- - -- - nue to adva---- - - -- - - cent ------ - - - ation --- - - received. I beli---- - - - - - - - - - -- - --------------- -- - tors to be ----- - - - -- s, fear- --- - - -- vent ---- - - - ranspiring, and - - - - - - -- - - ate of -- - - - -nic. I emp--- - - - - -- all to conti---- - - - - -- rther the - - - -- - - - kGÇÖJalaan proj---- - - - - - tinue to wo ---- - -- - - lution. ---- - - - - ate of the ---- ject ---- - - - in yo-- - - nds, and ---- - - - - - re is any --- - - - - - -- - - - - - ----- -- - - - - -- - - - - in future, I - - - - - - - ------l endea------------ - - - - - - o so. D--- - - - -- - rch --- - - m --- - -- - anger I - - - - -------- - - -o gr-- -- -- ---
It's choppy and it's all I had time to put together at the moment, but I will continue to work on it as time permits.
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Avio Yaken
Scope Works
1526
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:39:25 -
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Liam Antolliere wrote:I am by no means a cryptography expert, but: Hilen Tukoss wrote: The transmissions I have sent are fake (??) Anyone, this is Dr Hilen Tukoss, broadcasting over low band emergency FTL GÇô IGÇÖm unsure of the exact frequency.
Site One compromised. All stations and personnel involved with Arek'Jalaan Project should consider it (??) and should abandon any equipment, (??), construction
Disregard the previous communications from what appears to be my NeoCom. Their intention is misdirection on the part of those who have me restrained. DO NOT cooperate with them at all costs!
I have attempted to make contact with Eifyr & Co
--- - --- -- ail, in or -------- lay det-- - - -- - -- -y situa - - - - -. It is my la- - -- ----- e tha-- - - - - -- ransmissi- -- - - - - e pick--- - - - - - he FTL networ--- - -- - dcast t--- -- -nent pl
I am currently held against my will, captors are unkown. The few details....surroundings.....certain, I am being held somewhere in Anoikis.
The ava - - - - ata tha---- - -- - -- ther wo-- -- - -- - ---- -- - est some--- ---- e pro---- --- -et, given luminos---- - - -d gravity signatures.
It is imperative the capsuleer taskforce dedicated to Arek'Jalaan continue their work in my absence!
With---- - - - -- - - - - sence, t--- - - -- ject mus--- - -- - nue to adva---- - - -- - - cent ------ - - - ation --- - - received. I beli---- - - - - - - - - - -- - --------------- -- - tors to be ----- - - - -- s, fear- --- - - -- vent ---- - - - ranspiring, and - - - - - - -- - - ate of -- - - - -nic. I emp--- - - - - -- all to conti---- - - - - -- rther the - - - -- - - - kGÇÖJalaan proj---- - - - - - tinue to wo ---- - -- - - lution. ---- - - - - ate of the ---- ject ---- - - - in yo-- - - nds, and ---- - - - - - re is any --- - - - - - -- - - - - - ----- -- - - - - -- - - - - in future, I - - - - - - - ------l endea------------ - - - - - - o so. D--- - - - -- - rch --- - - m --- - -- - anger I - - - - -------- - - -o gr-- -- -- ---
It's choppy and it's all I had time to put together at the moment, but I will continue to work on it as time permits.
Outstanding work Mr.Antolliere
This gives us some valuable Intel
Anoikis...obviously if we want more information thats were we are gonna find it..
One does not simply, Cope with the scope
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6443
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:47:00 -
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We already have that intel, I suspect.
>> +366470.5504 >> +021452.0104 >> 5586152.0017
Someone with Project Compass might be able to help us clear that up. I usually let my navcomm system work out bearings.
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Anslo
Scope Works
21189
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:47:55 -
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So we've swept the damn system of Eram and all we found was a hidden asteroid belt, some little pirate den, and a random representative of a Shaman. No wormhole. No weird spatial anomalies. Nothing.
Site One is normal on the surface.
Well, we're out of ideas.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty. Circle-Of-Two
4960
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:00:41 -
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Guys, I'm going to attempt to do some message reconstruction, but I'm doing it mostly by simple eyeballing, so it may take a while - watch this space. Please note for anyone else attempting to do the same, the dashes do not indicate missing letters on a one-to-one basis.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Gehen Sealbreaker
Sealbreaker Labs
25
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:08:01 -
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I guess this confirms that a proper centralized structure to take important decisions and not rushing in important matters is best.
But enough with the "told you so".
I moved most of my resources and Project Astrosurvey's ones out of Site One without noticing any unusual resistance from the staff, but there was nothing extremely valuable. I strongly suggest other Project Leads to do so.
I have no idea if you can read us, Dr. Tukoss, and which one of you is the real one. But one thing is sure, you're in trouble. Stay strong, we will not abandon your or your legacy so easily. |

Anslo
Scope Works
21189
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:10:06 -
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Gehen Sealbreaker wrote:I guess this confirms that a proper centralized structure to take important decisions and not rushing in important matters is best.
But enough with the "told you so".
Hey, stuff is happening. Might not have found out the actual situation just sitting around.
No regrets!
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Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
112
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:10:36 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:We already have that intel, I suspect.
>> +366470.5504 >> +021452.0104 >> 5586152.0017
Someone with Project Compass might be able to help us clear that up. I usually let my navcomm system work out bearings.
I'm reviewing our Project Compass data now. It *could* indicate x,y,z coordinates from CONCORD's 0,0,0 reference point, but I don't know if signal routers use that in determining transmission routes. Some sort of route identifier seems probable since I believe the previous numbers were ping times. I will post here if my analysis comes up with anything significant.
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Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6443
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:16:19 -
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Thank you for the quick response, Mark.
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Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
169
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:19:14 -
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I have updated my original attempt to reconstruct the message. Most of it is inference based on context and general syntax recognition.
I should note for the record that I cannot be certain of any of it being accurate, it is simply what I am able to piece together. Perhaps someone will have more luck than I.
I suspect the last string is a warning against searching for him because it is too dangerous.
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Anslo
Scope Works
21189
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:21:12 -
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Liam Antolliere wrote:I suspect the last string is a warning against searching for him because it is too dangerous.
Challenge accepted.
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1459
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:23:43 -
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Liam Antolliere wrote:I have updated my original attempt to reconstruct the message. Most of it is inference based on context and general syntax recognition.
I should note for the record that I cannot be certain of any of it being accurate, it is simply what I am able to piece together. Perhaps someone will have more luck than I.
I suspect the last string is a warning against searching for him because it is too dangerous.
I will combine your work with what Ms. Priano and I have put together already and see what I come up with.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Owner, The Golden Masque
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty. Circle-Of-Two
4960
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:24:07 -
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Oops, nevermind, someone else beat me to it.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
127
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:26:02 -
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Hilen Tukoss wrote: >> ROUTER CONTACT ESTABLISHED - TRANSPONDER ID HASH [b]30003453-50008995-50006664[/b] >> LAYER 44602117/FF
Hilen Tukoss wrote: TRANSPONDER ID HASH - [b]30003412-30003453[/b] / LAYER 44602117/FF DISCONNECT
Bold above, my emphasis. The router transponders above correspond to the following: 30003453SunOrduin - Star 30003412SunElgoi - Star
Perhaps an in-depth look at these systems would be in order? Even if the numbers are a random match and I am looking too hard in the wrong direction...
The 5000nnnn's are obviously not on any database I have access to.
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
169
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:27:17 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote: I will combine your work with what Ms. Priano and I have put together already and see what I come up with.
Thank you and good luck.
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty. Circle-Of-Two
4960
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:31:47 -
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Shaera Taam wrote:30003453SunOrduin - Star 30003412SunElgoi - Star Those are both systems in Metropolis, so it might be worth asking local capsuleers if they've seen anything weird lately.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6443
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:32:43 -
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Shaera Taam wrote:
Bold above, my emphasis. The router transponders above correspond to the following: 30003453SunOrduin - Star 30003412SunElgoi - Star
Perhaps an in-depth look at these systems would be in order? Even if the numbers are a random match and I am looking too hard in the wrong direction...
The 5000nnnn's are obviously not on any database I have access to.
Hmm. Dispatching my associate to check those systems. I suspect, though, that the systems were simply those near to Eram, and that Tukoss wasn't able to as precisely select his target as he'd like.
More information to come.
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Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
114
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:35:26 -
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Shaera Taam wrote:Hilen Tukoss wrote: >> ROUTER CONTACT ESTABLISHED - TRANSPONDER ID HASH [b]30003453-50008995-50006664[/b] >> LAYER 44602117/FF
Hilen Tukoss wrote: TRANSPONDER ID HASH - [b]30003412-30003453[/b] / LAYER 44602117/FF DISCONNECT
Bold above, my emphasis. The router transponders above correspond to the following: 30003453SunOrduin - Star 30003412SunElgoi - Star Perhaps an in-depth look at these systems would be in order? Even if the numbers are a random match and I am looking too hard in the wrong direction... The 5000nnnn's are obviously not on any database I have access to.
I'll pause my analysis here to note that Elgoi and Orduin are, respectively, 1 and 2 jumps out from Eram. Unfortunately, I don't have full access to the starmaps to check on a hunch I have on this subject.
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Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6443
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:38:02 -
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Hm. Orduin has nothing of note in the system, at least on a cursory search. Elgoi has a K162 wormhole leading to J140722. First glance seems to indicate that it is unoccupied. I'll investigate further.
Mark726 wrote:
I'll pause my analysis here to note that Elgoi and Orduin are, respectively, 1 and 2 jumps out from Eram. Unfortunately, I don't have full access to the starmaps to check on a hunch I have on this subject.
Is this hunch that the two systems are on a line from the coordinates given to Eram?
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
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Anslo
Scope Works
21189
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:40:30 -
[31] - Quote
Wait for my guys Makoto. Or fleet with them or something. No need to go it alone.
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Cap'n Schmitty
Critical Mass Inc.
7
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:40:36 -
[32] - Quote
The Elgoi-Orduin gates are also the only exit from the dead-end constellation in which Orduin is contained, if that helps any. Perhaps those gates, or hell, even that whole constellation, ought to be looked into more closely.
@CaptainCrutches
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6446
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:46:41 -
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No worries, Anslo. The associate I sent is one I trust when it comes to exploratory matters, suffice it to say.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
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Anslo
Scope Works
21189
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:47:14 -
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Pay attention to the Jsig number. That's stupid important.
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1461
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:48:45 -
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Good thinking, Mark.
Here is what Ms. Priano and I have put together so far, with a few notes:
Quote:Th(is is the first transm)ission I hav(e been able to ma)ke in so(me time. Thi)s is Dr Hil(len Tuk)oss, broa(dcasting on lo)w band eme(rgen)cy FTL GÇô IGÇÖm uns(ure of t)he exact fr(equen)cy.
Site On(e is compromi)sed. All sta(ff inv)olved wi(th the Are)kGÇÖJal(aan Pr)oject sho(uld cons)ider it inse(cure an)d should aba(ndon an)y equi(pment the)rein, cons(ider it cont)amin(ated).
(Disre)gard the pre(viou)s commun(ication)s from wh(at ap)pears to be m(y) NeoC(om. The)ir inte(nt )is misdir(ection o)n the p(art of tho)se who ha(ve me res)trained. DT coope(rated wit)h the(m in )all c(ases.)
I ha(ve attem)pted to ma(ke conta)ct (with Eifyr & C(o to no av)ail, in or(der to re)lay det(ails of m)y situa(tion). It is my la(st hop)e tha(t this t)ransmissi(on will b)e pick(ed up by t)he FTL networ(k and broa)dcast t(o the perti)nent pl(aces?).
I am cu(rrently held aga)inst my wi(ll, my cap)tors are unkno(wn but from t)he few det(ails of my s)urrou(ndings I hav)e bee(n able to asc)ertain, I am bei(ng he)ld somewh(ere in Anoi)kis. The ava(ilable d)ata tha(t I could ga)ther wo(uld sugg)est some(where in clos)e pro(ximity to a Wolf-Ray)et, given luminos(ity an)d gravity signatures.
It is impe(rative t)he cap(suleer ta)skforce dedica(ted to Arek'Ja)laan contin(ue the)ir work i(n my abs)ence. With(out my pre)sence, t(he pro)ject mus(t conti)nue to adva(nce with re)cent (inform)ation (--- - -) received.
I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (----- - - - --)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.
I emp(lore [sic] you) all to continue to further the (aims of the Are)kGÇÖJalaan proj(ect and to con)tinue to wo(rk on a so)lution. (The f)ate of the (pro)ject (is now) in yo(ur ha)nds, and (if the)re is any (chance of communication/my escape?) in future, I (shal/wil)l endea(vour to d)o so.
D(--- - - - -- - )rch (--- - - )m (--- - -- - )anger I( - - - - -------- - - -)o gr(-- -- -- --- )
In the interest of preserving the integrity of the original message, I have kept a few different fill-ins that Ms. Priano and I arrived at rather than using Mssr. Antolliere's, such as in the first and third paragraphs. In the case of the latter, I do not think our translation is necessarily correct, but it is the best we could come up with while preserving the integrity of the original message. I do, however, believe that the general thrust of Mssr. Antolliere's version is more likely to be correct, even though the precise wording used by Dr. Tukoss (or whomever this is) escapes me at the moment.
I have also obviously not cleaned the message up entirely, leaving in parentheses to show where missing data has been filled in.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Owner, The Golden Masque
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6446
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:49:26 -
[36] - Quote
What's the phrase? 'Not my first time to the rodeo?' What is a rodeo, anyway?
In any case, Jsig posted above. Galnet references indicate high-security and class one statics. Directional scans inside the wormhole indicate one active tower and one dead tower, with an excess of signatures and anomalies inside the hole. It's a quiet class two, basically, without the Wolf-Rayet we suspect indicates Tukoss's current location. (edit) Morwen Lagann has posted our best guess above. I'd also like to thank her for including me in her work. While I was busy doing a crash course on encryption methods to try to find a simple way to convert Tukoss's message, Morwen Lagann was doing the sensible thing and thinking about it.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
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Anslo
Scope Works
21189
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:51:15 -
[37] - Quote
Jeesh excuse me for being worried about you.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6446
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:54:25 -
[38] - Quote
Worrying about functional immortals? Well, I'll take it as a compliment, even if I'm baffled.
But let's focus on the work at hand.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
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Anslo
Scope Works
21189
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:57:57 -
[39] - Quote
Well when you have the guy talking about contamination and then have those broadcasts in higher class wormholes about sites being contaminated you tend to worry about everything.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
170
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:02:17 -
[40] - Quote
Excellent work Mademoiselles Lagaan and Priano.
You put together a bit more of the message than I was able to, but it looks like we're all on the same page regarding the nature and intent of the message. At this point, I will withdraw from the conversation and leave it in your capable hands. If I can be of further assistance, don't hesitate to contact me.
~Msr. L.J. Antolliere
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
186
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:11:06 -
[41] - Quote
Hilen Tukoss wrote:>> CONNECTION TERMINATED << 0411632 - //ROUTER TOKEN EXPIRY GÇô 116//01/20 GÇô 14:29 TRANSPONDER ID HASH - 30003412-30003453 / LAYER 44602117/FF DISCONNECT
ERROR CODE:
464f5243454420444953434f4e4e454354 545950453d555345524143434f554e54414343455353464c555348
I am not familiar with router technology. How does the date/time representation of this message reflect as to the origin of the message itself? The date/time of the token appears to be in the past by a number of months. |

Invescu Ohaya
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:11:43 -
[42] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote:... First glance seems to indicate that it is unoccupied. I'll investigate further. Mark726 wrote:
I'll pause my analysis here to note that Elgoi and Orduin are, respectively, 1 and 2 jumps out from Eram. Unfortunately, I don't have full access to the starmaps to check on a hunch I have on this subject.
Is this hunch that the two systems are on a line from the coordinates given to Eram?
While I am using only crude mapping software from my sadly remote location, a preliminary model indicates that this is not the case:
http://i.imgur.com/gB3Vtui.png
There does not appear to be any astronomical alignment between Eram with Elgoi and Orduin. Nor do Elgoi and Orduin alone appear to align with any known system.
My apologies for only looking at a negative. I am a dilettante in these matters, but follow your discussions with interest.
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1463
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:15:42 -
[43] - Quote
A literal line in space wasn't what was meant - more a path of systems for his message to follow.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Owner, The Golden Masque
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Anslo
Scope Works
21189
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:16:36 -
[44] - Quote
Well that one wormhole may be our only lead. Our guys are poking everything they can with probes.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6447
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:37:18 -
[45] - Quote
Hm. I suppose I'll have to send my associate back in. Anything interesting inside, Anslo?
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
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Anslo
Scope Works
21191
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:38:55 -
[46] - Quote
Hell if we know. We're going on about this like we always go on. After two pints of ale and a packet or chips.
I'll say this much though, I know you and others got beef with this guy. Fair enough. But if this **** is the way it's looking like, you may wanna put off executing him until whatever the hell going on is stopped. I may be taking a leap, but there's something out there that feels threatened, and is acting on that feeling. That combined with the whole Site One being contaminated, much like those Talocan sites, well...
We got bigger problems I think. We get Tukoss out. We assess the threat, and then we do what we do best.
Lock and load, mother *******.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1049
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:42:39 -
[47] - Quote
Keep up the good work people! And if the translated message is anything to go by, I would say that the revitalization of Arek'Jaalan is important as well, so best not to hasten things & lay a good foundation for it's workings.
Looking forward to any data & information that will be dug up!
Newly discovered Sleeper sites contain advanced weapon blueprints!
The return of Dr Hilen Tukoss, Arek'Jaalan project leader
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Anslo
Scope Works
21191
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:08:16 -
[48] - Quote
Well we've probed every sig in those systems but got nothing but relic and data sites. Nothing too out of the ordinary. There's some other wormholes linking to other systems. However, none are Wolf Rayets.
We'll continue checking these systems and hope we...I dunno, bump into something cloaked or some crap.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Rhavas
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
322
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:19:57 -
[49] - Quote
In the case of all the systems you are exploring (I am currently unable to come to k-space), I highly recommend warping to both the sun and to planet 1. Most Sleeper capabilities based on my studies for Project Tesseract indicate that key capabilities are tied to these two locations. If something is cloaked, the first place I would look is there.
I also recommend that someone go investigate The Hyperbole Nexus in Barkrik. It's a long shot, but with the volume of historical Sleeper constructs in that area and the communications array it may have a connection, and is not far from Eram.
Thanks to everyone able to begin work on this today.
Relative to Site One ... what Tukoss' message says to me is that "contaminated" effectively means that The Antiquarian's (and others') donations likely went to someone Tukoss' captors, which makes sense (who controls Site One? Not Tukoss!). Oops?
Author of Interstellar Privateer
Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1050
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:23:36 -
[50] - Quote
Rhavas wrote:In the case of all the systems you are exploring (I am currently unable to come to k-space), I highly recommend warping to both the sun and to planet 1. Most Sleeper capabilities based on my studies for Project Tesseract indicate that key capabilities are tied to these two locations. If something is cloaked, the first place I would look is there.
I also recommend that someone go investigate The Hyperbole Nexus in Barkrik. It's a long shot, but with the volume of historical Sleeper constructs in that area and the communications array it may have a connection, and is not far from Eram.
Good suggestions, do keep in mind that the new sleeper sites found in empire space have a different modus operandi. Most of the Sleeper cache sites apparently appear at the edge of the solarsystem, as per the Concord report on it. So I would include 'Edge of solarsystem' in your searches as well.
I-RED ran some investigations already on these new sites.
Newly discovered Sleeper sites contain advanced weapon blueprints!
The return of Dr Hilen Tukoss, Arek'Jaalan project leader
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Anslo
Scope Works
21191
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:46:05 -
[51] - Quote
Rhavas wrote:In the case of all the systems you are exploring (I am currently unable to come to k-space), I highly recommend warping to both the sun and to planet 1. Most Sleeper capabilities based on my studies for Project Tesseract indicate that key capabilities are tied to these two locations. If something is cloaked, the first place I would look is there.
I also recommend that someone go investigate The Hyperbole Nexus in Barkrik. It's a long shot, but with the volume of historical Sleeper constructs in that area and the communications array it may have a connection, and is not far from Eram.
Thanks to everyone able to begin work on this today.
Relative to Site One ... what Tukoss' message says to me is that "contaminated" effectively means that The Antiquarian's (and others') donations likely went to someone Tukoss' captors, which makes sense (who controls Site One? Not Tukoss!). Oops?
Any other bright ideas? We don't really do Anoikis.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
114
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Posted - 2014.11.12 21:33:43 -
[52] - Quote
Morwen Lagann wrote:A literal line in space wasn't what was meant - more a path of systems for his message to follow. My hunch was more along the lines of whether Elgoi or Orduin are on the outer edges of the New Eden Cluster and perhaps indicates the closest systems to the broadcast.
Incidentally, my analysis of the original numbers has proven unfortunately fruitless. My best guess is still that the numbers represent a three-dimensional coordinate, but I also have significant reasons to doubt that hypothesis. A coordinate system doesn't explain why the first two numbers have a "+" attached to them while the third does not have an expected "-" attached to it if it is not positive. Additionally, the CONCORD stellar reference database measures all distances from the local 0,0,0 in meters: assuming that the fluid routers also use that measurement metric, and I have no reason to suspect they wouldn't, Tukoss would be located WELL within the limits of the New Eden cluster, and given the analyses provided by my colleagues in this thread, that seems... unlikely, at best. AU suffer from a similar problem. (As an aside, should the numbers prove to be coordinates in either light-years or parsecs, I'll just note that my previous Compass calculations would be in significant error, though of course that doesn't play into my analysis either way). That being said, I don't have a better idea as of yet what the numbers may mean if they are not, in fact, coordinates.
I will continue to research the potential meanings of these numbers and report back if I find anything significant.
Author, EVE Travel
Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
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Anslo
Scope Works
21191
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Posted - 2014.11.12 21:36:52 -
[53] - Quote
There was a map where it showed New Eden and the possible structure of all Anoikis next to each other. Might help you. But if you're the guy actually made that map well I'll just shut up.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
117
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Posted - 2014.11.12 21:41:10 -
[54] - Quote
Anslo wrote:There was a map where it showed New Eden and the possible structure of all Anoikis next to each other. Might help you. But if you're the guy actually made that map well I'll just shut up. Assuming you mean the maps available here, yes, those were constructed from Project Compass data in our preliminary reports. For the sake of transparency, I'll note that neither Dr. Tukoss nor Eifyr ever approved of or substantiated our findings (though CONCORD's actions in removing the locator beacon functionality in Anoikis may be some kind of approval of our methods in another manner).
Author, EVE Travel
Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
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Anslo
Scope Works
21191
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Posted - 2014.11.12 21:43:10 -
[55] - Quote
Then give it a shot. Maybe the coordinates make sense with the maps next to each other..or on top of each other or something. We're thinking of coordinate space in three dimensions. I mean I'm not a physicist yeah but...maybe Sleepers or, whoever has Hilen, don't think or map in three dimensions. Remember, those drones have some weird part that plots coordinates using space AND time. Temporal ****.
Worth looking into maybe?
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Roderick Raholan
Order In Disorder Rim Worlds Protectorate
10
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Posted - 2014.11.12 22:05:57 -
[56] - Quote
As Avio Yaken of Scope Works just brought to our attention... "ROUTER TOKEN EXPIRY GÇô 116//01/20 GÇô 14:29"
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Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
127
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Posted - 2014.11.12 22:08:58 -
[57] - Quote
Obil Que wrote:Hilen Tukoss wrote:>> CONNECTION TERMINATED << 0411632 - //ROUTER TOKEN EXPIRY GÇô 116//01/20 GÇô 14:29 TRANSPONDER ID HASH - 30003412-30003453 / LAYER 44602117/FF DISCONNECT
ERROR CODE:
464f5243454420444953434f4e4e454354 545950453d555345524143434f554e54414343455353464c555348
I am not familiar with router technology. How does the date/time representation of this message reflect as to the origin of the message itself? The date/time of the token appears to be in the past by a number of months.
Not being an expert myself, I would venture a guess that Tukoss was using an old authorization token to access the fluid router comm system. The connection was terminated once the system realized that the token was expired, regardless of the fact that he was broadcasting on an emergency frequency.
I would happily be proven wrong if any experts in field could weigh in and correct me.
-st
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
118
|
Posted - 2014.11.12 22:18:41 -
[58] - Quote
Let's also remember that Dr. Tukoss, at least in the reconstructed messages, is aware of the recent messages from the person claiming to be him and at least somewhat familiar with the items only recently asked for by his doppelganger. As far as I know, I'm unaware of any temporal displacement issues with the other Dr. Tukoss's postings, so this has to be a reasonably recent message.
Author, EVE Travel
Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
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Anslo
Scope Works
21192
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Posted - 2014.11.12 22:21:18 -
[59] - Quote
That date is still something. Just trust my hunch Mark. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
118
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Posted - 2014.11.12 22:24:17 -
[60] - Quote
I'm still willing and happy to consider any and all possibilities, I just wanted to make sure that was pointed out so we could take it into account.
Author, EVE Travel
Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6448
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Posted - 2014.11.12 22:44:31 -
[61] - Quote
Hm. The odd thing is that only two of the coordinates have +/- associated. If these were grid coordinates, I'd assume all three would have those. Alternatively, if they were radial coordinates from a given location, then two of the three would presumably be in a measure of angle. To my understanding, the numbers provided don't really correspond with that, either.
So-- I'm at a loss.
A quick question, though, on a lark. So-- those ships that were destroyed with trinary data in the hold. What sort of system was that? Just an association exercise. Researching now.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
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Rhavas
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
322
|
Posted - 2014.11.12 23:28:54 -
[62] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote:Hm. The odd thing is that only two of the coordinates have +/- associated. If these were grid coordinates, I'd assume all three would have those. Alternatively, if they were radial coordinates from a given location, then two of the three would presumably be in a measure of angle. To my understanding, the numbers provided don't really correspond with that, either.
So-- I'm at a loss.
A quick question, though, on a lark. So-- those ships that were destroyed with trinary data in the hold. What sort of system was that? Just an association exercise. Researching now.
Class 6 space, a magnetar and the former home of Aperture Harmonics.
Author of Interstellar Privateer
Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
23
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:38:30 -
[63] - Quote
Quote: I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (----- - - - --)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.
So it was most likely a machine trying to talk to us, afterall.
It might be obvious by now, but why don't we go ahead and assume that "(----- - - - --)s" are sleepers? Yeah, plural ending is not enough, but here are some theories.
We know that Sisters released a research about the increase in Sleeper activity and a number of key changes in the behavioral profiles. And here Mr. Tukoss says that "they" are in a state of panic. Then we have a Wormhole Summit, an event "now transpiring".
Then, we know that sleepers are most likely aware of the stuff happening in our cluster thanks to Ms. Priano and her associates. This again connects to this mysterious "event".
I say, CONCORD and other officials at this Summit may have more info, but they will not share, so we have to do everything ourselves. Did anyone come up with "to do list"? |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6448
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:38:39 -
[64] - Quote
So-- not associated. Hm.
And I'm assuming noone else is turning anything up regarding the transponder hashes starting in 5##? Because failing that, I'm out of ideas.
(edit) Unfortunately, at present we have no information on who these captors are. They could be Sleepers, Rogue Drones, the Empires, pirates, Sisters of EVE, Jove AIs. Really, anything that we could say in the plural. Further, I'm not sure I've ever been aware of an emotional response by Sleepers...?
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
111
|
Posted - 2014.11.12 23:40:34 -
[65] - Quote
So many questions.
" believe my captors to be ----- - - - -- s, fearful that certain events are transpiring, and entering a state of panic."
What events?
"I e(i)mplore you all to continue to further the Arek'Jalaan Project and to continue to work toward a solution."
Solution to what? What research should we be doing to help?
"DO NOT cooperate with them at all costs!"
Too bad the Jove parts were deposited in that can. I wonder what disaster we will have to deal with. |

Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
23
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:56:44 -
[66] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote: (edit) Unfortunately, at present we have no information on who these captors are. They could be Sleepers, Rogue Drones, the Empires, pirates, Sisters of EVE, Jove AIs. Really, anything that we could say in the plural. Further, I'm not sure I've ever been aware of an emotional response by Sleepers...?
Yes, this "s" gives us absolutely no info, unfortunately. Hm, about that emotional response... You see, I kind of like reading books about linguistics and semantics to try and read people better. Just a sec, I'll look through his old transmissions...
Ah, here:
Quote:syntax error, search="marriage"-synonym... result="matrimony" And there
Quote:syntax error, search="healthy"-synonym... result="well" And again
Quote:>>syntax error, search="heated"-synonym... result="warm" Who could possibly look for synonyms and leave traces of that? Yeah, my translation tool, huh. I still think that it was a machine, probably the first time sleepers tried to condescend to our level and talk to us so we could give them some valuables. On the other hand I could be entirely wrong and this could be a completely diffferent force.
Do we have any info on why did those sleeper caches start to appear out of nothing? |

Cap'n Schmitty
Critical Mass Inc.
7
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Posted - 2014.11.13 00:41:02 -
[67] - Quote
I did some digging in the CONCORD database, and it looks like 50008995-50006664 represents a pair of stargates - Orduin-Elgoi to be exact.
It looks like the transponder ID from Dr. Tukoss' transmission has to do with the Orduin side of that connection, considering it's Orduin's identifier followed by the Orduin-to-Elgoi gate identifier followed by the Elgoi-Orduin gate identifier. The implications of that are currently beyond me... but I'll keep sifting through CONCORD's info to see if I can find anything else of note.
@CaptainCrutches
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Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
127
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Posted - 2014.11.13 01:18:17 -
[68] - Quote
Myself and Valerie Valate decided to dig into this as well. Which is what let me to stay in Orduin-Elgoi-Eram all day on patrol... Not a lot of headway was made, unfortunately, except in that i got a lot of scanning practice!
;)
FYI
There is a wh in orduin right now leading to a C1: J105936 (red giant) Inside are four sigs: ODJ-920 WH K162 >orduin KOL-456 WH J244 >lowsec BVJ-752 Relic !! FNV-701 WH o883 >C3 >J161051 ( plz note, this wh was <4hrs life left )
C3: J161051 (cataclysmic variable) containing no less than 6 sigs
I decided to go no further down the rabbit hole solo. But for anyone who wishes to lose themselves following where it will...
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6451
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Posted - 2014.11.13 02:24:29 -
[69] - Quote
Jaret Victorian wrote: Who could possibly look for synonyms and leave traces of that? Yeah, my translation tool, huh. I still think that it was a machine, probably the first time sleepers tried to condescend to our level and talk to us so we could give them some valuables. On the other hand I could be entirely wrong and this could be a completely diffferent force.
Do we have any info on why did those sleeper caches start to appear out of nothing?
The issue with misdirection is that absent concrete proof or even circumstantial proof of identity, we must suspect all evidence. While there's clearly an expert system involved in the previous two postings, this could have been necessitated by the system that bypassed CRC security protocols; any party that could employ such a system remains suspect.
That said, as for the caches, we likely won't ever have a concrete answer as to the why. The purpose, though, is clearly acquisition and research of our technology. Considering PRIAN's second encounter was with a facility that had a large number of rare but conventional blueprint copies, while the first included a previously unheard-of advanced technology variant, it would be fair to say that the Sleepers are experimenting with our technology to some degree. Perhaps they're programmed to research and adapt technologies they come into contact with? Or perhaps research and learn from threats they encounter? Or perhaps they are in fact sentient? I really can't say.
Also, thank you, Schmitty, for identifying those! I'll do a little more digging now.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
111
|
Posted - 2014.11.13 02:31:05 -
[70] - Quote
Cap'n Schmitty wrote:I did some digging in the CONCORD database, and it looks like 50008995-50006664 represents a pair of stargates - Orduin-Elgoi to be exact.
It looks like the transponder ID from Dr. Tukoss' transmission has to do with the Orduin side of that connection, considering it's Orduin's identifier followed by the Orduin-to-Elgoi gate identifier followed by the Elgoi-Orduin gate identifier. The implications of that are currently beyond me... but I'll keep sifting through CONCORD's info to see if I can find anything else of note. Maybe those two systems should be searched for wormholes. Maybe the signal went through a WH in one of those systems, then through the two gates. |

Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
128
|
Posted - 2014.11.13 04:46:31 -
[71] - Quote
Gaia Ma'chello wrote:Cap'n Schmitty wrote:I did some digging in the CONCORD database, and it looks like 50008995-50006664 represents a pair of stargates - Orduin-Elgoi to be exact.
It looks like the transponder ID from Dr. Tukoss' transmission has to do with the Orduin side of that connection, considering it's Orduin's identifier followed by the Orduin-to-Elgoi gate identifier followed by the Elgoi-Orduin gate identifier. The implications of that are currently beyond me... but I'll keep sifting through CONCORD's info to see if I can find anything else of note. Maybe those two systems should be searched for wormholes. Maybe the signal went through a WH in one of those systems, then through the two gates.
Unless its been rolled, the WH in Orduin I reported @0118hrs ( post #68 above ) should have some life on it still.
The WH that i found to a C3 beyond that was on a short fuse. It's likely gone by now.
Luck!
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Gehen Sealbreaker
Sealbreaker Labs
26
|
Posted - 2014.11.13 07:12:36 -
[72] - Quote
Gaia Ma'chello wrote:Cap'n Schmitty wrote:I did some digging in the CONCORD database, and it looks like 50008995-50006664 represents a pair of stargates - Orduin-Elgoi to be exact.
It looks like the transponder ID from Dr. Tukoss' transmission has to do with the Orduin side of that connection, considering it's Orduin's identifier followed by the Orduin-to-Elgoi gate identifier followed by the Elgoi-Orduin gate identifier. The implications of that are currently beyond me... but I'll keep sifting through CONCORD's info to see if I can find anything else of note. Maybe those two systems should be searched for wormholes. Maybe the signal went through a WH in one of those systems, then through the two gates.
As you very certainly know, ordinary wormholes are very temporary. It's most likely gone by now, and the extensive survey of the systems make that very likely.
Regarding Dr. Tukoss' message:
Please all keep in mind that nothing tells us for sure that "this" Tukoss is "the real one". Being the first one to accuse the other of being a fake is not enough. Although this last communication validates my previous theories, and seems to approve of the current restructuring of Arek'Jalaan, it would be hypocritical of me to consider it genuine just because it favors my own agenda.
Of course, I cannot express strongly enough how important it is that no further materials are delivered to Antiquus.
Regarding his possible captors:
Although we certainly have stirred them a bit from their slumber, I doubt the Sleepers are at work here, for various reasons. (A bit too long for this place.)
My money is on Sansha's Nation. We know that they have multiple fleet staging systems from which they launch the Incursions on our space, none of which was ever found. Except for the data of the probe that went through, we have no idea what these systems may be. We also know they gained over the past few years some extensive knowledge in wormhole manipulation. They could very well be occupying unreachable space.
I do not have such data at hand, but if someone could check the relay token expiry date for significant events, say, Sansha Incursions, I would be interested to see the results. |

Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
681
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Posted - 2014.11.13 07:13:26 -
[73] - Quote
Those numbers certainly do look odd. They don't seem, at first sight at least, correspond to any positional coordinates.
Well, now I know what will be my past time of the day... unless someone gets to this before I do.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents!
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Avio Yaken
Scope Works
1546
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Posted - 2014.11.13 13:31:24 -
[74] - Quote
Gehen Sealbreaker wrote: My money is on Sansha's Nation. We know that they have multiple fleet staging systems from which they launch the Incursions on our space, none of which was ever found. Except for the data of the probe that went through, we have no idea what these systems may be. We also know they gained over the past few years some extensive knowledge in wormhole manipulation. They could very well be occupying unreachable space.
I do not have such data at hand, but if someone could check the relay token expiry date for significant events, say, Sansha Incursions, I would be interested to see the results.
May I ask your reason to think that? Why would they capture Hilen? What purpose do they serve him?
One does not simply, Cope with the scope
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Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2014.11.13 13:49:27 -
[75] - Quote
A brief interjection, if I may:
I do not suspect it is the Sleepers or Sansha's Nation, the circumstances don't line up correctly for either entity.
As we are still in the realm of speculation, I will simply put forth three questions:
Who or what has the most to lose if the goals of Dr. Hilen Tukoss (and Arek'Jalaan) are realized?
Who or what would need to keep their active involvement to disrupt those goals hidden from the public view, namely the view of capsuleers?
Who or what has the resources and means necessary to do so?
If those three questions are answered in order, the list of likely suspects should decrease dramatically and allow the investigation to pass from the realm of broad speculation into the realm of reasonable suspicion.
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
25
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Posted - 2014.11.13 14:09:51 -
[76] - Quote
Avio Yaken wrote: May I ask your reason to think that? Why would they capture Hilen? What purpose do they serve him?
I'm not Gehen, but Nation seems plausible. Didn't AJ have problems with them in the past?
Liam Antolliere wrote:A brief interjection, if I may:
I do not suspect it is the Sleepers or Sansha's Nation, the circumstances don't line up correctly for either entity.
As we are still in the realm of speculation, I will simply put forth three questions:
Who or what has the most to lose if the goals of Dr. Hilen Tukoss (and Arek'Jalaan) are realized?
Who or what would need to keep their active involvement to disrupt those goals hidden from the public view, namely the view of capsuleers?
Who or what has the resources and means necessary to do so?
If those three questions are answered in order, the list of likely suspects should decrease dramatically and allow the investigation to pass from the realm of broad speculation into the realm of reasonable suspicion. Who else it may be? Sleepers and presumably Sansha live in wormhole space and use wormholes. AJ researches wormholes. IF what this Tukoss tells us is true, he might've uncovered something important.
And if this Tukoss is genuine, we should prepare for an extraction mission. |

Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
322
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Posted - 2014.11.13 14:13:54 -
[77] - Quote
Mr. Antolliere, I see where you're going and strongly advise against such accusations. |

iyammarrok
Stellar Essence Open Space Consultancy
200
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Posted - 2014.11.13 14:37:03 -
[78] - Quote
This may just be me jumping to conclusions, but does anyone else think that we might be seeing more of Awakened Infomorph soon?
maybe she got lonely and the body parts that were requested are so she can make a friend.
Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
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Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
192
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Posted - 2014.11.13 15:17:25 -
[79] - Quote
Esan Vartesa wrote:Mr. Antolliere, I see where you're going and strongly advise against such accusations.
Monsieur Vartesa,
I've made no accusations of any kind. All I have done is offered a line of critical thinking that may assist in the investigation into the identity of Dr. Tukoss' captors and subsequently, hopefully, a plan of action going forward for the persons involved in this project.
Anyone, including yourself, may completely disregard anything I've said if that is their choice.
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
878
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:24:12 -
[80] - Quote
Shaera Taam wrote:Hilen Tukoss wrote: >> ROUTER CONTACT ESTABLISHED - TRANSPONDER ID HASH [b]30003453-50008995-50006664[/b] >> LAYER 44602117/FF
Hilen Tukoss wrote: TRANSPONDER ID HASH - [b]30003412-30003453[/b] / LAYER 44602117/FF DISCONNECT
Bold above, my emphasis. The router transponders above correspond to the following: 30003453SunOrduin - Star 30003412SunElgoi - Star Perhaps an in-depth look at these systems would be in order? Even if the numbers are a random match and I am looking too hard in the wrong direction... The 5000nnnn's are obviously not on any database I have access to.
5000xxxx series numbers are stargates. This makes sense as FTL transmissions use stargate fluid routers.
Stargate 50008995 is located in system 30003453, Elgoi. Gate 50006664 is its matching gate in Orduin.
Essentially, this says the message transited the Orduin/Elgoi gate.
Now on to the 3 dimensional relative spatial coordinates.
"Remember remember the 4th of November!"
Phoebe. Coming soon to Eve Online.
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Gehen Sealbreaker
Sealbreaker Labs
28
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:27:00 -
[81] - Quote
Jaret Victorian wrote:Avio Yaken wrote: May I ask your reason to think that? Why would they capture Hilen? What purpose do they serve him?
I'm not Gehen, but Nation seems plausible. Didn't AJ have problems with them in the past? .
And the present. There was no formal retractation of the war declaration made by Sansha's Nation. Sansha-loyalist "Capsuleer" groups always had shifting agendas, but Nation itself did not send any new message since the threats on Dr. Tukoss.
So, Sansha Kuvakei does not like Hilen Tukoss, and we know he's good at holding grudges.
Also, the capture of Hilen Tukoss might simply be to made demands to Arek'Jalaan. The Jovian body parts, I'm sure, are very precious to those who have the Sansha level in bioengineering. Perhaps they research a new line of nanomachines, which would enable True Slaves to wield Jovian technology?
This is pure speculation, of course, but there is no need to search very far for new enemies when the old ones are still there. |

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1054
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:49:46 -
[82] - Quote
Roderick Raholan wrote:As Avio Yaken of Scope Works just brought to our attention... "ROUTER TOKEN EXPIRY GÇô 116//01/20 GÇô 14:29"
I did a search for events occurring around this date,but not much came up. Closest to this date I could find was the group of not so bright Gurista capsuleers (NOT Loyalist capsuleers, genuine Gurista Capsuleers) that thought antagonizing the local lowsec alliance was a 'brilliant' idea & got subsequently smashed. Doesn't seem related at all.
Some thoughts from me:
'entering a state of panic'
Whatever the cause of their panic is, it must be tied to recent events. I suspect the rally to collect sleeper data for the research race might gotten them in a frenzy, as it was a quite sudden announcement that gave alot of attention to wormholes & sleeper data/tech, something that would disturb his captors if they do live in a wormhole system.
Another thing to keep in mind, the first message praised efforts to colonize systems, including one we don't know. This indicates that whoever sended the first message was unaware we didn't know about this unidentified colonized system! Indicating there's at least two unknown parties involved. However, as the first messanger was unaware we didn't know, it's likely the colonized system is occupied by an organisation we know in Empire space & has alot of power as they have been able to keep it hidden so long.
I did use the knowledge & efforts that people gathered about the third message and composed it into an article about the change this message created in our perception about Hilen Tukoss' return: The return of Dr Hilen Tukoss, Part II: A third message
In the end, I warn for caution and a need to keep collecting data & knowledge, in order to find a way to verify who the 'real' Hilen Tukoss is. This might be him, but it can also be of an opponent who tries to disrupt the goal that Hilen Tukoss tries to achieve. The desperate nature of this broadcast does give points that this might be the real Hilen Tukoss, but that is so, he's in for a bad time, as getting caught transmitting a message to disrupt your captors work is a surefire way to buy you some punishment-time.
The return of Dr Hilen Tukoss, Part II
Newly discovered Sleeper sites contain advanced weapons!
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
650
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Posted - 2014.11.13 23:07:51 -
[83] - Quote
Will the real Dr. Tukoss please stand up ? |

Anslo
Scope Works
21265
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Posted - 2014.11.13 23:40:55 -
[84] - Quote
Does anyone know how to find historic wormhole data? Like what opened up where and when?
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
128
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Posted - 2014.11.13 23:56:30 -
[85] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Does anyone know how to find historic wormhole data? Like what opened up where and when?
That would be a very powerful tool indeed... it might even be useful in helping to predict where a particular wormhole might open next...
The implications would be staggering. Imagine lining up to catch the 1552 to J105936 out of Orduin for a nice afternoon of C1 farming?
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
129
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Posted - 2014.11.14 00:07:57 -
[86] - Quote
Gehen Sealbreaker wrote:Jaret Victorian wrote:Avio Yaken wrote: May I ask your reason to think that? Why would they capture Hilen? What purpose do they serve him?
I'm not Gehen, but Nation seems plausible. Didn't AJ have problems with them in the past? . And the present. There was no formal retractation of the war declaration made by Sansha's Nation. Sansha-loyalist "Capsuleer" groups always had shifting agendas, but Nation itself did not send any new message since the threats on Dr. Tukoss. So, Sansha Kuvakei does not like Hilen Tukoss, and we know he's good at holding grudges. Also, the capture of Hilen Tukoss might simply be to made demands to Arek'Jalaan. The Jovian body parts, I'm sure, are very precious to those who have the Sansha level in bioengineering. Perhaps they research a new line of nanomachines, which would enable True Slaves to wield Jovian technology? This is pure speculation, of course, but there is no need to search very far for new enemies when the old ones are still there.
I would like to think that the Nation's bioengineering advancements, while impressive compared with similar technologies available to us, are crude compared to Jovian methods. Somewhere along the lines of prehistoric trepanning compared to modern nano-psychosurgery.
Yes, of course, the Nation would undoubtedly like to get ahold of Jovian bits and bobs, on the off chance that they could stumble upon some kind of advancement... for some reason, all of this cloak-and-dagger stuff just doesn't /feel/ like a Nation operation.
Capturing Tukoss, turning him into a True Slave, and having him lead an assault on A'J. Now, /that/ is more their style. But I digress...
Based upon the assumption ( yes, yes, I'm well aware what "assuming" does ) that the third transmission received from "Tukoss" is genuine, this leaves us dealing with /something/ that is smart enough to understand deceit, intelligent enough assimilate the language, but not experienced enough to avoid the syntax errors that most of our language-translation software deal with on a daily basis.
Most rogue drones communicate in binary. Hexadecimal, being the basis for the first two messages received, is a step up in information density, and could represent an advancement in their ability to communicate. Motive and means are the big missing factors in this particular theory. I have never encountered, nor heard of any rogue drone elements in w-space. In fact, most Sleeper Drones aggress human-made drones quite quickly, almost as if there is a pre-disposed bias against them. The possibility of rogue drone elements surviving long enough in w-space to build a facility in which to hold Tukoss... are slim, to say the least.
The possibility of involvement of a higher form of Elite Rogue Drone or even the Awakened Infomorph ( qv ), would be stepping too far into the realm of baseless speculation. Neither party have shown any hexadecimal usage, preferring to keep to binary, and the AWI mentioned above has demonstrated communication abilities far more sophisticated than those shown by the first two Tukoss-messages. This could be due to the AWI's unique nature, or other factors of which we are ignorant.
Other machine intelligences include the Sleepers themselves, of course, but to the best of my knowledge, communication attempts with the Sleeper Drones have only been answered with silence and weapons-fire. The Sleepers themselves, taken as a separate population from their Drone creations, are an intriguing possibility...
Bear with my supposition for a moment, that the Sleepers, or a small population thereof, are waking up.
Perhaps they are doing so because the pre-set alarm clock has finally started ringing after a millenia long nap. There is also the possibility that some kind of emergency alarm has finally gotten some of them up because of the wholesale damage being inflicted upon their constructs. Given that they would be unable to stop these assaults, even with advances to their own tactics ( remote repping, prioritizing drone aggro, etc ), it makes sense that they would attempt to gather information about the technology being used against them ( read, the newly discovered Sleeper Caches in k-space ) and, by extension, those using said technology...
Capsuleer prisoners. Influential ones. Intelligent ones. Prisoners that could /possibly/ be leveraged, or even imitated, to get them what they ultimately need.
Especially /if/ these awakening Sleepers are digitized Jovians who are paniced in their realization that those who were not digitized, those who were left 'outside' to continue their research and find a cure to their genetic disease, failed miserably. Or worse, died quietly in the process. Because, if this were the case, wouldn't these awakening Jovian Sleepers want to get ahold of samples of what might be the last Jovian body in existence, in a bid to re-create that which has been lost?
Yes, yes, I know, I railed against 'baseless speculation' a few paragraphs up there, but I really do not thing this is an example of such. I'm really not trying to propose anything new or definitive or even revolutionary. I also don't expect to change people's trains of thought. I just wanted to give voice to a series of ideas and theories that have been stacking up rather peculiarly in my head for a while now.
And I invite anyone who made it through all of that, who takes issue with any of it , please let me know. I'm happy to discuss. I'm happy to re-examine. Especially if I'm /proven/ wrong! Its better to be corrected than wrong.
Thanks for the time...
-st
TL;DR - crazy stuff!!!

Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1413
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Posted - 2014.11.14 11:20:34 -
[87] - Quote
That all has something to do with Ishukone. Trust me.
They are shady bastards like that. Remember that story with POWs? Gallente torture all Caldari POWs from all seven megacorps. Why seven, but not eight?.. Because they return to Ishukone their POWs.
And this Dr. Tukoss, he ran from this Ishukone, and now disappeared. He probably has some information about Ishukone treasons, and they are torturing him!... Or maybe not torturing, maybe something else. But it is definitely shady business. And should he have such information, he would definitely need political sanctuary...
We must find Dr. Tukoss and interrogate him as we should, before these minmatars again put their hands on him. Or Ishukonites, if someone else except Ishukone is holding him.
But still, my bet that it is Ishukone who is involved. I would put, ummm... say, 5mil ISK on it. |

Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
25
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Posted - 2014.11.14 12:12:56 -
[88] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:That all has something to do with Ishukone. Trust me.
I doubt it. They could just impersonate him, I mean speech, but those previous messages have suspicious vibe around them. Almost like a machine talking to us. Or someone not familiar with oru languages. Or Ishukone is that devious... Or not. Most likely not.
Anyway, any luck with this?
Hilen Tukoss wrote: D--- - - - -- - rch --- - - m --- - -- - anger I - - - - -------- - - -o gr-- -- -- ---
I tried to find any pattern here, but it looks like those are just interferences. It almost looke like "Don't try to reach me", but not really. I did, however, find a couple of relevant words with "rch" - "perch" and "porch". First seems to be it as it means "to be in a high position or in a position near the edge of something"
Edge of Anoikis? Edge of Wolf-Rayet? Who had the coordinates? |

Gehen Sealbreaker
Sealbreaker Labs
30
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Posted - 2014.11.14 12:40:01 -
[89] - Quote
Jaret Victorian wrote:Diana Kim wrote:That all has something to do with Ishukone. Trust me.
I doubt it. They could just impersonate him, I mean speech, but those previous messages have suspicious vibe around them. Almost like a machine talking to us. Or someone not familiar with our languages. Or Ishukone is that devious... Or not. Most likely not. Anyway, any luck with this? Hilen Tukoss wrote: D--- - - - -- - rch --- - - m --- - -- - anger I - - - - -------- - - -o gr-- -- -- ---
I tried to find any pattern here, but it looks like those are just interferences. It almost looke like "Don't try to reach me", but not really. I did, however, find a couple of relevant words with "rch" - "perch" and "porch". First seems to be it as it means "to be in a high position or in a position near the edge of something"Edge of Anoikis? Edge of Wolf-Rayet? Who had the coordinates? If my guess is right, then "anger" certainly means "danger", probably this part is about some dangers in the sector, hm... Edit: second guess about this "Don't try". "Don't try to search for me". That, however, negates my guess about the edge of somewhere.
Same here.
For the moment, I consider it to probably mean something along the lines of "Do not try to search for me, as the danger I face is too great." |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1813
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Posted - 2014.11.14 13:34:37 -
[90] - Quote
Jandice Ymladris wrote: Some thoughts from me:
'entering a state of panic'
Whatever the cause of their panic is, it must be tied to recent events. I suspect the rally to collect sleeper data for the research race might gotten them in a frenzy, as it was a quite sudden announcement that gave alot of attention to wormholes & sleeper data/tech, something that would disturb his captors if they do live in a wormhole system.
I concur.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Ridha Shakir
Gradient
3
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Posted - 2014.11.14 13:41:19 -
[91] - Quote
The result of searching and probing all of Argeir:
- Several Angel Relic sites - Three Wormholes, one of them leading to Amarr high-sec space, two to W-space - A dozen abandoned combat drones, some of which must have been out there for a while
That's it. So if something is out there it is either:
- cloaked - planetside - stationside - within the confines of one of the many POSes
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Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
194
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Posted - 2014.11.14 13:49:54 -
[92] - Quote
Ridha Shakir wrote:The result of searching and probing all of Argeir:
- Several Angel Relic sites - Three Wormholes, one of them leading to Amarr high-sec space, two to W-space - A dozen abandoned combat drones, some of which must have been out there for a while
That's it. So if something is out there it is either:
- cloaked - planetside - stationside - within the confines of one of the many POSes
Emphasis mine.
If the general consensus is to suspect the Sleepers, then this continuing report from I-RED should be considered relevant to the search.
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Shae Mataar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2014.11.14 19:15:41 -
[93] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:He probably has some information... and they are torturing him!
We must find Dr. Tukoss and interrogate him as we should...
yes, we should rescue the poor doctor from his current captors so that we can torture him properly here!

i bring that which you fear the most
freedom
no matter what the price
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Vieve Creston
DED CONCORD Assembly
1
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Posted - 2014.11.14 19:50:01 -
[94] - Quote
It has come to the attention of the Directive Enforcement Department that a number of individuals have been donating items to a resource drop in Site One in the Eram system. We are also aware this effort is taking place at the request of an ambiguously identified person. The DED would like to take the opportunity to strongly advise against this course of action until such time as the identity of the person initiating this effort can be verified.
Despite claims that this person is Dr Hilen Tukoss, we are unable to verify the identity of the sender of the transmission requesting capsuleer assistance, and we have had no confirmed contact with Dr Tukoss since his disappearance. The DED is also unable to identify the original source of the carrier signal for the original transmission, or this transmission prior to its relay through transponder 30003453-50008995-50006664.
Please refrain from further interactions with any claimant of this NeoCom ident until their true identity and motives are verified. We repeat that it is strongly advised to stand down and refrain from following requests or instructions from such a source.
Thank you.
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6459
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Posted - 2014.11.14 20:33:40 -
[95] - Quote
Thank you for not including an 'or else' in your statement, Ms. Creston. You know how capsuleers respond to statements such as that.
As for assisting Tukoss, well-- I think we're a bit past that point.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
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Eran Mintor
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
690
|
Posted - 2014.11.14 20:51:32 -
[96] - Quote
Oops.
-Eran |

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
653
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Posted - 2014.11.14 20:51:43 -
[97] - Quote
Vieve Creston wrote:It has come to the attention of the Directive Enforcement Department that a number of individuals have been donating items to a resource drop in Site One in the Eram system. We are also aware this effort is taking place at the request of an ambiguously identified person. The DED would like to take the opportunity to strongly advise against this course of action until such time as the identity of the person initiating this effort can be verified.
Despite claims that this person is Dr Hilen Tukoss, we are unable to verify the identity of the sender of the transmission requesting capsuleer assistance, and we have had no confirmed contact with Dr Tukoss since his disappearance. The DED is also unable to identify the original source of the carrier signal for the original transmission, or this transmission prior to its relay through transponder 30003453-50008995-50006664.
Please refrain from further interactions with any claimant of this NeoCom ident until their true identity and motives are verified. We repeat that it is strongly advised to stand down and refrain from following requests or instructions from such a source.
Thank you.
Oh, crikey! It's the rozzers! |

Fergus Runkle
Truth and Reconciliation Council
49
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Posted - 2014.11.14 21:02:01 -
[98] - Quote
Vieve Creston wrote:It has come to the attention of the Directive Enforcement Department that a number of individuals have been donating items to a resource drop in Site One in the Eram system. We are also aware this effort is taking place at the request of an ambiguously identified person. The DED would like to take the opportunity to strongly advise against this course of action until such time as the identity of the person initiating this effort can be verified.
Despite claims that this person is Dr Hilen Tukoss, we are unable to verify the identity of the sender of the transmission requesting capsuleer assistance, and we have had no confirmed contact with Dr Tukoss since his disappearance. The DED is also unable to identify the original source of the carrier signal for the original transmission, or this transmission prior to its relay through transponder 30003453-50008995-50006664.
Please refrain from further interactions with any claimant of this NeoCom ident until their true identity and motives are verified. We repeat that it is strongly advised to stand down and refrain from following requests or instructions from such a source.
Thank you.
Typical CONCORD, always turning up AFTER the things have happened. |

Tyrel Toov
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2014.11.14 21:14:50 -
[99] - Quote
Shae Mataar wrote:Diana Kim wrote:He probably has some information... and they are torturing him!
We must find Dr. Tukoss and interrogate him as we should... yes, we should rescue the poor doctor from his current captors so that we can torture him properly here!  It is vary important to be the one doing the torture, how else are you going to be sure it gets done right? |

Cap'n Schmitty
Critical Mass Inc.
8
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Posted - 2014.11.14 21:27:52 -
[100] - Quote
Some more desperate and semi-random scans of the CONCORD database shows that Transponder 6612 may refer to Stargate ID 50006612, or the 5T-A3D gate in MTGF-2, in Oasa. This is a region gate, one of four connections between Oasa and Perrigen Falls. MTGF-2 is currently controlled by Shadow of xXDEATHXx, while 5T-A3D belongs to Absolution Alliance.
This could of course be (and likely is) a completely bogus lead, but I figured it would be better to post it here than not. Do with that information what you will.
@CaptainCrutches
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Cap'n Schmitty
Critical Mass Inc.
8
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Posted - 2014.11.14 22:29:32 -
[101] - Quote
Something else that may or may not be noteworthy - there's a new worrmhole in Orduin, signature ID CAZ-324. It leads to J113820, a C1 system with no effects. I found 4 other wormholes in that system: 2 led to C5 space, but were small-ship wormholes that my Stratios couldn't fit through. Of the others, one led to J141019, another effectless C1, and one led to Palpis, a high-security system in Devoid that is currently being subjected to a Sansha incursion. I didn't go any deeper than that, but others are free to as long as the wormhole in Orduin remains.
@CaptainCrutches
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Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.11.15 05:00:37 -
[102] - Quote
Tick-tock said the clock, bashing 'gainst the wall; Tick-tock said the clock, watching as you FALL
Hilen... so long forgotten... so far away; so not so far astray.
Quote:It has come to the attention of the Directive Enforcement Department that a number of individuals have been donating items to a resource drop in Site One in the Eram system. We are also aware this effort is taking place at the request of an ambiguously identified person. The DED would like to take the opportunity to strongly advise against this course of action until such time as the identity of the person initiating this effort can be verified.
Knocking, knocking, on the wall; who will let me in? Knocking, knocking, on the wall; did you find my skin? I gave it to a man one day as he asked me for the time; I gave it gladly, in exchange for mine. Sleeping, sleeping, I did find that I did not know whom to mind. Not the doorman, not the architect, not the man behind the lie. To tell the truth, I lost mine too, and did not have the time.
Vieve, my dear, you have the answers but no questions.
The conceit herein must be that we accept your authority on your word alone, while you offer nothing in return. "Don't play here because I said." Speaking for CONCORD no doubt. Oh yes, of course! Silly me.
The Sleepers, you see, aren't dead. They aren't voiceless. They aren't helpless. They just look at us in a different way than we look at them. If an infection invades your body, you don't speak to it. You remove the source of infection. That's what DED is concerned about. If this is not Hilen Tukoss, who could it be? Who could have that kind of access? None of those answers are in any way, shape or form "good".
You also know, Vieve, that the list of possibilities is very short as to whom this could possibly be. The thinker, the adventurer or the dreamer? Or maybe one more who has to be around because his actions speak louder than words. The one who opened the door.
As they say, nothing comes without a price, and what was his price for entrance?
Knocking, knocking, on the wall... |

Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
182
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Posted - 2014.11.15 06:23:58 -
[103] - Quote
I find myself daily becoming more fearful for Dr. Tukoss' well-being.
I'm enlisting the manpower of Ocularis Inferno - if we run across anything of especial interest in a Wolf-Rayet system, I'll let someone know.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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EdXell
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 07:19:05 -
[104] - Quote
Quote: E: Regarding who may be holding Dr. Tukoss captive, the incomplete phrase ending with an 's' could be any group that is pluralized in that manner - Sleepers, Sisters, or Guristas come to mind most readily. Sansha's Nation is too easy a scapegoat, in my opinion.
Thinking about it a bit, Sleepers seem unlikely - the drones appear to have some volition, primarily regarding target acquisition and tactics, but not enough 'free' intelligence to enact a kidnapping. Meanwhile, their creators are most likely doing what the name suggests - sleeping.
The Guristas...I really can't imagine a reason for the Guristas to hold Dr. Tukoss.
That leaves, to me, only the Sisters as a credible captor, especially given their recent involvement in matters concerning Sleepers, Anoikis, and wormholes.
But if it was sisters surely they'd be able to impersonate him without all that hexadecimal stuff. The communications we've received from the fake Dr. Tukoss (assuming that this one's real) suggest an alien intelligence imitating our speech. In my opinion at this point the most likely suspects are either Sleepers or some other group that we haven't met yet.
I might have the wrong idea about all this, I've only just started following the Arek'Jaalan project and I've been absent from galactic affairs for a while. I don't have access to the same resources as some of you but if I happen to find myself in a Wolf-Rayet system I'll certainly keep an eye open for anything suspicious. |

Serinas Setzuni
5
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 08:04:39 -
[105] - Quote
I have potentially decoded this translation:
I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (----- - - - --)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.
(rogue d r o ne)s seems to fit in the empty space.... |

Quattras Peione
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
13
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 10:11:35 -
[106] - Quote
I believe you to be half right, Mademoiselle MacLeary.
As has been previously pointed out, we are dealing with at least two unknown parties in this - Dr. Tukoss' captors, and the occupants of the heretofore unknown system identified in the first transmission.
I would like to expand upon Monsieur Antolliere's suggestions. As he pointed out, the fact that the original message sender was under the impression that we (capsuleers) were behind the colonization of these systems indicates that those responsible for said colonization operate within New Eden. Of interest is the second message's use of the phrase "particular interest." Why is it that this system interests him so? Is this colonization of a greater scope than standard operations of capsuleer organizations in high-class wormholes? This would necessitate considerable resources, as well as the influence on other organizations to keep things quiet.
Also, to access these systems would obviously require cutting-edge scanning technology and the highly-trained personnel required to use it, or it would already be a regular hangout for one capsuleer organization or another. My first suspicion was that one Empire or another was doing surreptitious business in unknown space. Yes, Commander Kim, my earliest suspicion was in fact the Federation, but let us not forget that our own State has a history of creating colonies in secret.
It struck me, though, that the Servant Sisters of Eve are better poised to be in this position. It is ships of their design to which capsuleers turn first when embarking upon an exploration mission. This gives them the equipment necessary and the piles of ISK that keep flowing in as we continue purchasing exploration craft.
This indicates to me that, yes, the Sisters do play a significant role in this, but not the role you believe. They occupy at least one of the Anoikis systems of which we were unaware. The identity of Dr. Tukoss' captors, however, I cannot elucidate. |

Gehen Sealbreaker
Sealbreaker Labs
33
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 11:08:00 -
[107] - Quote
The suspicions about the Sisters are troubling. I work with them on a daily basis, and helped their research more than once. They could definetly have hidden something from me, as I'm far from having ears everywhere, but why not enlisting me, since wormhole theory is my field of expertise?
I will ask my Sisters contacts in the teams studying the EVE Gate. |

Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
196
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 11:34:13 -
[108] - Quote
Gehen Sealbreaker wrote:The suspicions about the Sisters are troubling. I work with them on a daily basis, and helped their research more than once. They could definetly have hidden something from me, as I'm far from having ears everywhere, but why not enlisting me, since wormhole theory is my field of expertise?
I will ask my Sisters contacts in the teams studying the EVE Gate.
Perhaps this is out of place but...
Asking a Sisters of Eve personnel if the Sisters are conducting covert operations which may or may not have involved the capture of a certain doctor is not likely to net you anything other than a denial, truth or not. Further, it could alert them to suspicion and make the entire situation even more delicate.
I suggest keeping suspicion to yourself and simply watching with a more wary gaze for the answers you seek.
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Anslo
Scope Works
21486
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 13:26:42 -
[109] - Quote
Deceiver's Echo wrote:Tick-tock said the clock, bashing 'gainst the wall; Tick-tock said the clock, watching as you FALL Hilen... so long forgotten... so far away; so not so far astray. Quote:It has come to the attention of the Directive Enforcement Department that a number of individuals have been donating items to a resource drop in Site One in the Eram system. We are also aware this effort is taking place at the request of an ambiguously identified person. The DED would like to take the opportunity to strongly advise against this course of action until such time as the identity of the person initiating this effort can be verified. Knocking, knocking, on the wall; who will let me in? Knocking, knocking, on the wall; did you find my skin? I gave it to a man one day as he asked me for the time; I gave it gladly, in exchange for mine. Sleeping, sleeping, I did find that I did not know whom to mind. Not the doorman, not the architect, not the man behind the lie. To tell the truth, I lost mine too, and did not have the time. Vieve, my dear, you have the answers but no questions. The conceit herein must be that we accept your authority on your word alone, while you offer nothing in return. "Don't play here because I said." Speaking for CONCORD no doubt. Oh yes, of course! Silly me. The Sleepers, you see, aren't dead. They aren't voiceless. They aren't helpless. They just look at us in a different way than we look at them. If an infection invades your body, you don't speak to it. You remove the source of infection. That's what DED is concerned about. If this is not Hilen Tukoss, who could it be? Who could have that kind of access? None of those answers are in any way, shape or form "good". You also know, Vieve, that the list of possibilities is very short as to whom this could possibly be. The thinker, the adventurer or the dreamer? Or maybe one more who has to be around because his actions speak louder than words. The one who opened the door. As they say, nothing comes without a price, and what was his price for entrance? Knocking, knocking, on the wall... Wat
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Shelby Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
2030
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 13:44:16 -
[110] - Quote
You're a silly.
Wormhole Intern | Baby Dusette | Doesn't even
CCP Eterne: "Naked avatars for PLEX."
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Anslo
Scope Works
21505
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 13:45:36 -
[111] - Quote
Heya Shelby! Great seein ya again.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Shelby Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
2049
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 14:12:44 -
[112] - Quote
Thanks! It's nice to see you too!
Well, like kinda see you! I'm still stuck in this station thing using my datapad to catch up on things. It's like some kind of medical room or somethin'. I can see my sisters cryo-pods, they still asleep. Well, all except Erica 'cause like she woke me up.
I can see her kredit card too! It's sitting on a table across the room. Can't wait to get my hands on it haha.
Wormhole Intern | Baby Dusette | Doesn't even
CCP Eterne: "Naked avatars for PLEX."
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Anslo
Scope Works
21527
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 14:14:23 -
[113] - Quote
Tell Erica I said hey, please?
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Shelby Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
2049
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 14:15:39 -
[114] - Quote
Sure thing Mista Anslo!!
Wormhole Intern | Baby Dusette | Doesn't even
CCP Eterne: "Naked avatars for PLEX."
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
29
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 14:54:19 -
[115] - Quote
Serinas Setzuni wrote:I have potentially decoded this translation:
I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (----- - - - --)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.
(rogue d r o ne)s seems to fit in the empty space.... Unlikely. I believe there is no pattern in here, those are just interferences. That and rogue drones are not that smart.
Quattras Peione wrote:Also, to access these systems would obviously require cutting-edge scanning technology and the highly-trained personnel required to use it, or it would already be a regular hangout for one capsuleer organization or another. My first suspicion was that one Empire or another was doing surreptitious business in unknown space. Yes, Commander Kim, my earliest suspicion was in fact the Federation, but let us not forget that our own State has a history of creating colonies in secret.
It struck me, though, that the Servant Sisters of Eve are better poised to be in this position. It is ships of their design to which capsuleers turn first when embarking upon an exploration mission. This gives them the equipment necessary and the piles of ISK that keep flowing in as we continue purchasing exploration craft.
This indicates to me that, yes, the Sisters do play a significant role in this, but not the role you believe. They occupy at least one of the Anoikis systems of which we were unaware. The identity of Dr. Tukoss' captors, however, I cannot elucidate. Yeah, can't even imagine that SOE would be involved in a hostage situation like this. If they are, I guess I'm burning my tee-shirt. |

Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 15:28:09 -
[116] - Quote
Jaret Victorian wrote:Unlikely. I believe there is no pattern in here, those are just interferences. That and rogue drones are not that smart. You do not need to be smart in order to follow instructions. Following instructions does not require asking questions. Questions hardly ever lead to answers that you want. If you don't want answers how can you be disappointed?
Unit A requests X information from Unit B. It either gives the information or it doesn't. It does not give Y if X is what is asked for.
I like drones. They're far more reliable than people. People ask questions. People get disappointed. People take away your paints. They said I could have my paints back if I helped answer the questions but I never got my paints back. Do you know where they are? I would really like my paints back. |

Gehen Sealbreaker
Sealbreaker Labs
33
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 15:38:10 -
[117] - Quote
Liam Antolliere wrote:Gehen Sealbreaker wrote:The suspicions about the Sisters are troubling. I work with them on a daily basis, and helped their research more than once. They could definetly have hidden something from me, as I'm far from having ears everywhere, but why not enlisting me, since wormhole theory is my field of expertise?
I will ask my Sisters contacts in the teams studying the EVE Gate. Perhaps this is out of place but... Asking a Sisters of Eve personnel if the Sisters are conducting covert operations which may or may not have involved the capture of a certain doctor is not likely to net you anything other than a denial, truth or not. Further, it could alert them to suspicion and make the entire situation even more delicate. I suggest keeping suspicion to yourself and simply watching with a more wary gaze for the answers you seek.
I understand your concern, but don't worry. I did not really planned to barge in the offices of the highest-ranking officer who would see me and start asking questions.
We tend to forget, as capsuleers, dealing with only a handful of people, that there are other humans, not as gifted maybe, but with hearts, families, and, often, troubles. And what may seem to be a negligible price to replace a ship module to us can mean the world to an ordinary man, who would instantly be able to reimburse debts, buy better healthcare, change living quarters, etc.
Believe me, the reason non-capsuleer personnel is kept to a minimum and well paid at Sealbreaker Labs is because they are a far greater backdoor than one would think. |

Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
29
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 17:01:58 -
[118] - Quote
Deceiver's Echo wrote:Jaret Victorian wrote:Unlikely. I believe there is no pattern in here, those are just interferences. That and rogue drones are not that smart. You do not need to be smart in order to follow instructions. Following instructions does not require asking questions. Questions hardly ever lead to answers that you want. If you don't want answers how can you be disappointed? Unit A requests X information from Unit B. It either gives the information or it doesn't. It does not give Y if X is what is asked for. I like drones. They're far more reliable than people. People ask questions. People get disappointed. People take away your paints. They said I could have my paints back if I helped answer the questions but I never got my paints back. Do you know where they are? I would really like my paints back. A portion of rogue drones, captured and "tamed" by some entity? Now that makes sense.
People probably sold your paints for profits long time ago. I'm sorry. |

Serinas Setzuni
7
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 18:22:36 -
[119] - Quote
Jaret Victorian wrote:Serinas Setzuni wrote:I have potentially decoded this translation:
I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (----- - - - --)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.
(rogue d r o ne)s seems to fit in the empty space.... Unlikely. I believe there is no pattern in here, those are just interferences. That and rogue drones are not that smart.
Having thought about this a bit longer, other possibilities include:
(rogue a g e nt)s (The question becomes whose agents...?) (rogue C C P AI)s (With the recent disbanding of their alliance, anything is possible. They also have a history of not always communicating with the rest of the capsuleers in a normal manner... ) (----- S O E --)s (Sisters of Eve... Why would they be in a panic?) (----- D E D --)s (I could see them being a bit worried lately, but why would they want Jovian DNA? Why would they ask us to stop delivering it if it's them, unless they have already gathered enough?)
If the spaces aren't there by accident, the midle three - - - are most likely the initials of some organization, group, or something else... Figuring out what that something or someone is will probably reveal a lot more about Mr. Tukoss' whereabouts... |

Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2014.11.15 19:26:44 -
[120] - Quote
Apologies for my prior interactions. I'm still adjusting to new medication and the guards have finally been told to point their weapons elsewhere.
Serinas Setzuni wrote:If the spaces aren't there by accident, the midle three - - - are most likely the initials of some organization, group, or something else... Figuring out what that something or someone is will probably reveal a lot more about Mr. Tukoss' whereabouts... Obviously packet loss due to using burst transmission as opposed to standard transmission. I would surmise that this is due to time limits and an attempt to get a message out as quickly as possible. Poor man obviously has to resort to crude methods. I mean, emergency FTL channels? Really?
Perhaps we should wait until Mr. Tukoss can find a stable node that he actually knows how to use. Though I must say, it's odd that he knows that there is previous transmissions and that those transmissions are clear, while this one is not.
If he knows of the prior communications, how was his ID used? If this is the same transmission technique as the previous messages, why is this one garbled?
It points to two things. First, the previous communications can be seen as hacks of CONCORD systems. If this is Rogue Drones, as has been previously asserted, this would explain pretty much everything. We know Rogue Drones have the ability to "brute force" hack stargates, and have at least passing familiarity with CONCORD systems.
Second, we can compare and contrast this message to the previous ones. This one seems more like the good ol' Hilen Tukoss we love to despise. The previous ones do not. The previous communications are cold and emotionless.
Finally, aside from the two conclusions above, we should perhaps not try to "fill in the blanks". It's not like his message has brought up new questions. It hasn't. It's only highlighted concerns previously addressed. Even our resident DED mouthpiece/tool Ms. Creston is echoing what others have said.
We've got nothin' we didn't have before, ladies and gentlemen.
And then there's the most important concern of all. I still don't have my paints. They're a nice shiny bright red. They change color when you use them though, so the art is only able to be appreciated for a short time. I really miss my paints. It's a complete travesty that I am not aloud to follow my muse, that sweet little voice incessantly nagging and pleading and screaming, don't you think? |

Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
183
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 01:49:57 -
[121] - Quote
EdXell wrote:But if it was sisters surely they'd be able to impersonate him without all that hexadecimal stuff. The communications we've received from the fake Dr. Tukoss (assuming that this one's real) suggest an alien intelligence imitating our speech. In my opinion at this point the most likely suspects are either Sleepers or some other group that we haven't met yet. I admit the presence of the odd hexadecimal strings does suggest rather strongly that the Tukoss who asked for Jove parts is a programmed facsimile of some kind.
However, while Sleepers or an as-yet unknown force is likely, the mere presence of hexadecimal code doesn't rule out the Sisters as our culprit. It's more than possible to construct a crude program that can attempt to impersonate someone based on past communications, and Dr. Tukoss has never been a reticent man.
It is also possible that Dr. Tukoss' captors and the impersonator are working independently of each other.
E: To respond to Pr. Sealbreaker, the Empires themselves are not monolithic, they have internal factions and politics. I would be very surprised if the Sisters kept no secrets from each other.
We must remember that our fallacies and foibles are not unique to our immortal status, and our mortal brethren are just that - mortal. A mortal may choose a riskier path, as they do not have the luxury of infinite patience.
E2: Cleaning up some formatting. Wasted space is annoying.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
681
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 03:06:08 -
[122] - Quote
Out of the information I've gathered...
Anyone got any info on stockpiles of Isogen-5 being present, or moved around recently?
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Lister Vindaloo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
28
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 04:54:28 -
[123] - Quote
We can assume quite strongly that we received messages from two Tukoses, secondly the hexadecimal code in the message was either an unavoidable byproduct of the communication or a well fielded ploy to divert attention, as of yet we cannot be sure which is true, so it leads us to the conclusion that any assumptions we make based on the available information are speculative and possibly desired by those perpetrating this deception.
However, I have some recently received intelligence about previously unexplored wormholes being discovered, it also appears that an abnormal percentage of these are WR systems, considering the degree of wormhole exploration up until today, I feel it would be madness to not be on the lookout for these WH's and to also consider what if any connection their recent appearance may have with Hilens sudden re-appearance |

Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
4972
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 08:16:19 -
[124] - Quote
Trii Seo wrote:Anyone got any info on stockpiles of Isogen-5 being present, or moved around recently? One unit of Isogen 5 checking in, ma'am.
I can assure you though we've nothing at all to do with any of this strangeness.
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
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Gehen Sealbreaker
Sealbreaker Labs
34
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 08:46:15 -
[125] - Quote
Siobhan MacLeary wrote:To respond to Pr. Sealbreaker, the Empires themselves are not monolithic, they have internal factions and politics. I would be very surprised if the Sisters kept no secrets from each other.
You are completely right on that. I'd go as far as saying that once you have two persons in a team, it starts.
Yet I can hope to find someone who knows something. The personnel studying the EVE Gate is comprised of multiple wormhole specialists. Even if no-one wants to talk or knows anything, I can see if a lot of them have been transferred elsewhere recently. That would possibly be a lead. |

Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
183
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 09:14:41 -
[126] - Quote
Gehen Sealbreaker wrote:Siobhan MacLeary wrote:To respond to Pr. Sealbreaker, the Empires themselves are not monolithic, they have internal factions and politics. I would be very surprised if the Sisters kept no secrets from each other. You are completely right on that. I'd go as far as saying that once you have two persons in a team, it starts. Yet I can hope to find someone who knows something. The personnel studying the EVE Gate is comprised of multiple wormhole specialists. Even if no-one wants to talk or knows anything, I can see if a lot of them have been transferred elsewhere recently. That would possibly be a lead.
It's definitely a start.
For all that these discussions are semi-public, I think that for now it is a good idea to keep our investigations as subtle and quiet as possible. There's no telling who or what we might be going up against, and what kind of power our opponent(s) may have.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1420
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 11:29:28 -
[127] - Quote
Vieve Creston wrote:It has come to the attention of the Directive Enforcement Department that a number of individuals have been donating items to a resource drop in Site One in the Eram system. We are also aware this effort is taking place at the request of an ambiguously identified person. The DED would like to take the opportunity to strongly advise against this course of action until such time as the identity of the person initiating this effort can be verified.
Despite claims that this person is Dr Hilen Tukoss, we are unable to verify the identity of the sender of the transmission requesting capsuleer assistance, and we have had no confirmed contact with Dr Tukoss since his disappearance. The DED is also unable to identify the original source of the carrier signal for the original transmission, or this transmission prior to its relay through transponder 30003453-50008995-50006664.
Please refrain from further interactions with any claimant of this NeoCom ident until their true identity and motives are verified. We repeat that it is strongly advised to stand down and refrain from following requests or instructions from such a source.
Thank you.
Liam Antolliere wrote:I am by no means a cryptography expert, but: Hilen Tukoss wrote: I e(i)mplore you all to continue to further the Arek'Jalaan Project and to continue to work toward a solution. I leave the fate of the project in your hands, and if there is any chance of my escape in future, I will endeavor to do so.
You heard what DED said, Arek'Jalaan? |

Trii Seo
681
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 12:37:12 -
[128] - Quote
DED often says words, as surprising as it may be given that whenever they speak we hear mostly the barking of loyal hounds.
This time they're either baiting us to search harder or trying to subtly say "We're on this, this is DED business, get out".
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Shae Mataar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
20
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 15:17:31 -
[129] - Quote
d.e.d?
subtle?
i bring that which you fear the most
freedom
no matter what the price
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Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune
183
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 15:27:40 -
[130] - Quote
DED activity is rarely subtle.
Unit XS365BT.
Designated Communications Officer.
Unit Commune.
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Trii Seo
682
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 15:39:24 -
[131] - Quote
They've made progress on the subtlety front, they've actually become capable of speaking up without including a warning about the consequences of our actions.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 17:26:11 -
[132] - Quote
Unit XS365BT wrote:DED activity is rarely subtle. They can be as subtle as a hammer nailing home a point.
However, as I said; they seem to be echoing points made by others. They offer nothing new. The first conclusion made usually creates a bias. If you are attempting to misdirect the attention of someone it's best to create a false first impression, and you should always reinforce that perception.
This goes for DED as much as the individual claiming to be Tukoss, Hilen.
It's good to see you again regardless. Have you seen my paints? I think I last saw them in Mabnen. Blood Raiders were there at the time. Do you like poetry--
>>COMMUNICATION TERMINATED<< |

EdXell
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 18:03:57 -
[133] - Quote
Siobhan MacLeary wrote: It is also possible that Dr. Tukoss' captors and the impersonator are working independently of each other.
I hadn't considered that. Kidnapping and imprisonment don't seem like the usual sisters procedure but we don't have enough intel to rule them out.
Come to think of it we don't have enough intel to rule anyone out. All we've got are some cryptic clues and a missing scientist and a boatload of speculation with no solid intel to back it up. Bottom line: we need more intel.
I'm conducting my own investigation into this matter. If anyone wants to collaberate feel free to contact me. |

Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
184
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 20:14:44 -
[134] - Quote
I find it amusing that the DED is attempting subtlety.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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Byrbeglin Alcantar
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
5
|
Posted - 2014.11.16 22:27:41 -
[135] - Quote
Deceiver's Echo wrote:Have you seen my paints? I think I last saw them in Mabnen. Blood Raiders were there at the time. Do you like poetry--
>>COMMUNICATION TERMINATED<<
I searched Mabnen and the surrounding systems, but was unable to locate your paints. Please advise. |

Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
|
Posted - 2014.11.17 01:59:42 -
[136] - Quote
Byrbeglin Alcantar wrote:For now, I'm looking for the paints. Thank you!
As for Tukoss, I always go by an old adage my father told me. "If you see a soldier dead on a road, he's not there by accident." Perhaps the system ID of an unknown system is intentional, and not what it seems. If you are sending messages via an unsecured transmitter, you include an innocuous piece of information that can easily slip past detection. In that piece of information you include important details.
Like blinking coordinates in an esoteric binary code, using burst transmission during a maintenance cycle to avoid the message being intercepted, things like that. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
10350
|
Posted - 2014.11.17 05:05:49 -
[137] - Quote
I can't believe I only just saw this now.
Someone or something wants the Jovian's parts- and they impersonated Tukoss to do so.
This is going to be big. Now it's only a question of when this is going to blow up.
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5672
|
Posted - 2014.11.17 05:21:04 -
[138] - Quote
The hex code is not cypher code. This means that the code itself is a result of failed re-encoding or decoding. When a value is transmitted it may be a common value for a byte of data. That value is then encoded again for the system that receives it.
So when I transmit a message for example the system I am using depends on the technology at hand. A minmatar system will encode for the minmatar character set and come out encoded on the receiving end for that character set, or any system capable of knowing to what byte value the incoming value translates. Hence a minmatar encoding on a gallente system might come out looking like jibberish.
So what's breaking the communications? If at all broken? We might be looking at a raw stream. I don't think they would make a mistake trying to fool us, especially over something that simple. If the hex values had to be decrypted first then I would wonder about obfuscation.
The only reasons I can think of for this is that by breaking the encoding this is to get past some kind of communication filter, as such it might be looking for certain words but treats the raw stream of hex codes like it were packet fillers or maybe some static.
Or it could be that who or whatever is up to something has very little knowledge of what they are doing and are running something with loose wires - for all we know they got electrodes hooked up to a human brain somewhere and they are having to shake the jar to get these messages out.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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GForce917
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
0
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Posted - 2014.11.17 06:29:13 -
[139] - Quote
I've attempted to decode a bit more of Dr. Tukoss' message. I couldn't find much but I figured I'd post it anyway.
Hilen Tukoss wrote:Th(is is the first transm)ission I hav(e been able to ma)ke in so(me time. Thi)s is Dr Hil(len Tuk)oss, broa(dcasting on lo)w band eme(rgen)cy FTL GÇô IGÇÖm uns(ure of t)he exact fr(equen)cy.
Site On(e is compromi)sed. All sta(ff inv)olved wi(th the Are)kGÇÖJal(aan Pr)oject sho(uld cons)ider it inse(cure an)d should aba(ndon an)y equi(pment the)rein, cons(ider it cont)amin(ated).
(Disre)gard the pre(viou)s commun(ication)s from wh(at ap)pears to be m(y) NeoC(om. The)ir inte(nt )is misdir(ection o)n the p(art of tho)se who ha(ve me res)trained. DT* coope(rated wit)h the(m in )all c(ases.)
I ha(ve attem)pted to ma(ke conta)ct (with Eif)yr & C(o to no av)ail, in or(der to re)lay det(ails of m)y situa(tion). It is my la(st hop)e tha(t this t)ransmissi(on will b)e pick(ed up by t)he FTL networ(k and broa)dcast t(o the perti)nent pl(aces?).
I am cu(rrently held aga)inst my wi(ll, my cap)tors are unkno(wn but from t)he few det(ails of my s)urrou(ndings I hav)e bee(n able to asc)ertain, I am bei(ng he)ld somewh(ere in Anoi)kis. The ava(ilable d)ata tha(t I could ga)ther wo(uld sugg)est some(where in clos)e pro(ximity to a Wolf-Ray)et, given luminos(ity an)d gravity signatures.
It is impe(rative t)he cap(suleer ta)skforce dedica(ted to Arek'Ja)laan contin(ue the)ir work i(n my abs)ence. With(out my pre)sence, t(he pro)ject mus(t conti)nue to adva(nce with re)cent (inform)ation (you've) received.
I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (Sleeper? Sister? Pirate? Jovian?)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.
I emp(lore [sic] you) all to continue to further the (aims of the Are)kGÇÖJalaan proj(ect and to con)tinue to wo(rk on a so)lution. (The f)ate of the (pro)ject (is now) in yo(ur ha)nds, and (if the)re is any (chance of communication/my escape?) in future, I (shal/wil)l endea(vour to d)o so.
D(--- - - - -- - )rch (--- - - )m (--- - -- -d)anger I( - - - - -------- - - -)o gr(-- -- -- --- )
*I don't know who or what DT is but it could be important. |

Trii Seo
683
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Posted - 2014.11.17 06:29:38 -
[140] - Quote
I've looked at the message in several ways.
First of all, tried to interpret the interference as, indeed, broken hexadecimal or decimal code with no encryption - as it is an emergency broadcast. This yielded little result, the output data was still incomprehensible gibberish.
After noticing a lot of occurence of '1' as a value, I've filtered it out - treating as garbage data. The data was still illegible.
A different approach: a long while ago, we had a joke method of transmitting rudimentary binary data by piggybacking radio transmissions. One station would rebroadcast to another while altering the base signal with noise becoming a set of value-1 on noise present and 0 on signal clear. Quantity of '1' and '0' bits was determined by the length of each period.
Analyzing the transmission by taking '-' as a noise sample and ' ' as 0-break yields nothing, as does reversing it. I have no reasons to believe the data is encrypted - but if someone wants to give it a shot they can contact me for the raw data.
(Or break down the transmission themselves, if you're wondering about encryption you probably can do what I did null-sweat)
On another note, the Isogen-5 question.
0411632 - //ROUTER TOKEN EXPIRY GÇô 116//01/20 GÇô 14:29
Doesn't RTE come with the ident of the origin ss? If it does, it could refer to 40411632, the database designator of a celestial in J-space. J101354/V/1 to be exact.
J101354 itself is not close to any Wolf-Rayets. But it is an A0 small blue - could be a stretch, given that it comes from a partial match.
Right, on the numbers I'm not saying much yet. Was about to dump that nothing could be extracted from them, but recent hours proved me so wrong it's not even funny. Need to filter through this before I even attempt to draw conclusions.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
29
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Posted - 2014.11.17 11:33:17 -
[141] - Quote
Trii Seo, could you please look into the beginning of the transmission and say if we missed something?
Hilen Tukoss wrote:TRANSPONDER 6612 ALLIGNED >> BROADCAST INITIATEGǪ
TRAFFIC SCRUBBING ACTIVE, GAIN GÇô 82.114 % NOMINALGǪ PACKET LOSS GÇô 72.176% >> 66ms >> -- >> 1088ms >> -- >> 931ms >> 404ms >> +366470.5504 >> +021452.0104 >> 5586152.0017 >> LOCKED IN >> ROUTER CONTACT ESTABLISHED - TRANSPONDER ID HASH 30003453-50008995-50006664 >> LAYER 44602117/FF
>> COMMENCING BROADCASTGǪ
>>
>>
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GForce917
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
0
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Posted - 2014.11.17 12:15:38 -
[142] - Quote
Jaret Victorian wrote:Trii Seo, could you please look into the beginning of the transmission and say if we missed something? I'm pretty sure this is the only thing in the beginning of the transmission no one has tried to decode yet. |

Cap'n Schmitty
Critical Mass Inc.
8
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:00:16 -
[143] - Quote
GForce917 wrote:Jaret Victorian wrote:Trii Seo, could you please look into the beginning of the transmission and say if we missed something? I'm pretty sure this is the only thing in the beginning of the transmission no one has tried to decode yet. Oh, I've tried. I just haven't come up with anything remotely useful.
@CaptainCrutches
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Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:13:40 -
[144] - Quote
GForce917 wrote:Jaret Victorian wrote:Trii Seo, could you please look into the beginning of the transmission and say if we missed something? I'm pretty sure this is the only thing in the beginning of the transmission no one has tried to decode yet. Probably because it's simply part of the communications protocol.
>>SEE ALSO: Protocol Layering |

dirtydebbs
the wreking crew
20
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:22:36 -
[145] - Quote
when i keep looking at this thread and the transmitting through the gate system,
it keeps me thinking back to how the drone lands first come about when some one tampered or forced there way through buy using an outdated code to online the gate, was the sleepers some how involved in that also and we have been playing there game on there terms with out knowing??? |

Cap'n Schmitty
Critical Mass Inc.
8
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Posted - 2014.11.17 17:41:10 -
[146] - Quote
All this talk of rogue drones has reminded me of something I said on a whim the other day, which might be lent more credence by the idea that drones have something to do with this:
Cap'n Schmitty wrote:Some more desperate and semi-random scans of the CONCORD database shows that Transponder 6612 may refer to Stargate ID 50006612, or the 5T-A3D gate in MTGF-2, in Oasa. This is a region gate, one of four connections between Oasa and Perrigen Falls.
It's worth noting, I think, that Oasa and Perrigen Falls are both occupied by rogue drones. Coincidence? Possibly. But worth noting nonetheless.
@CaptainCrutches
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty. Circle-Of-Two
4987
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Posted - 2014.11.17 18:55:43 -
[147] - Quote
I don't live so awfully far from Oasa. If people really think there's something worth looking into over there, I guess I could take a look, but if I can be blunt, I think you guys are really, really reaching here.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Trii Seo
685
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Posted - 2014.11.17 19:03:17 -
[148] - Quote
When you're grasping at straws, going through with a weird coincidence or a feeling of "that's odd" is better than sitting idly.
6612 could refer to a few things other than 5T-A3D. For an identifier, it lacks two more digits and a category number.
Skipping the category identifier and the two digits leaves us with a mess of objects - from which two stand out. The mentioned 5T-A3D stargate, a station in Esa and a celestial object in another wormhole. This time, a Wolf-Rayet system: J142918/X/1.
If we were to assume that the two identifier digits are null values, the set narrows down to the gate, celestial Timeor/X/12 and the station - Esa/VIII/2. This mostly looks like chasing ghosts, but until he dumps another bucket of data on us - gotta keep ourselves entertained.
Now if I was to run along and interpret the header, it looks like the first K-Space hop would be the Elgoi/Orduin stargate. If it is an emergency broadcast, it likely hit the 'net on that very hop, so it's possible that the trace bounces between points without stargates.
On a less data snoopy standpoint, because you've got to take coffee breaks - his previous transmissions had synonym queries embedded and are either way out of date on the know-how or know more than we do. The mention of starsystem bearing a J-type identifier and a number '05', below the documented ones means that whatever it is, it knows of a system we know nothing about - and that there presumably are people there.
By "people" I mean something it classified as us. So, could be Serpentis with their little mad scientist tendencies which they unleashed a while back, could be Sisters being sneaky with data gathering... or, I guess, anyone keeping their mouths shut.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
879
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Posted - 2014.11.17 19:29:11 -
[149] - Quote
Assuming that Transponder 6612 does indeed mean the FTL xponder contained within the broadcasting stargate, then gate 50006612 is located in solar system 30003197, which is MTGF-2 in Oasa. However this seems an unlikely point of origin for this kind of broadcast, since we know he is being held in w-space, in a Wolf-Rayet system.
So, over the weekend I dug through more of the database and found 48 possible corresponding celestial bodies that end in "6612". The gate was one. Of the remaining 47, 12 are w-space systems. The list is below.
"40006612","30000100","Timeor X - Moon 12" "40016612","30000263","TVN-FM III" "40026612","30000428","3C-26I V - Moon 13" "40036612","30000584","SO-X5L VII - Asteroid Belt 2" "40046612","30000738","PT-21C X - Moon 9" "40056612","30000886","S8-NSQ II - Moon 19" "40066612","30001044","Hemin VIII - Moon 12" "40076612","30001207","WJ-9YO IX - Moon 2" "40086612","30001359","Semiki II - Moon 1" "40096612","30001516","W-WQM5 X - Moon 20" "40106612","30001671","Tash-Murkon Prime VI - Moon 13" "40116612","30001823","P-8PDJ I - Asteroid Belt 1" "40126612","30001982","G95-VZ IV" "40136612","30002142","L-5JCJ II - Moon 1" "40146612","30002300","L-ZJLN VIII - Moon 20" "40156612","30002463","U-L4KS VIII - Asteroid Belt 3" "40166612","30002613","4-MPSJ IV - Moon 5" "40176612","30002783","Sankkasen IX - Moon 15" "40186612","30002939","WUZ-WM VII - Moon 18" "40196612","30003094","Imata VI - Moon 2" "40206612","30003257","S7WI-F IV - Moon 12" "40216612","30003414","Yrmori VI - Moon 1" "40226612","30003568","Meunvon V - Moon 8" "40236612","30003736","GN7-XY III - Moon 1" "40246612","30003896","Claini VIII - Moon 5" "40256612","30004051","YI-8ZM VIII - Moon 7" "40266612","30004207","DK0-N8 VII - Moon 9" "40276612","30004366","9F-7PZ - Star" "40286612","30004531","2JJ-0E IX - Moon 17" "40296612","30004691","O4T-Z5 VII - Moon 5" "40306612","30004840","X-1QGA VII - Moon 21" "40316612","30004997","Vifrevaert XI - Moon 19" "40326612","30005162","PT-2KR V - Moon 5" "40336612","30005323","Sortet V - Moon 13" "40346612","30032547","Larkugei V - Moon 1" "40356612","31000114","J121516 VIII - Moon 5" "40366612","31000301","J102005 V - Moon 16" "40376612","31000494","J114758 VII - Moon 16" "40386612","31000686","J115347 XI - Moon 8" "40396612","31000873","J162332 VI - Moon 9" "40406612","31001068","J222222 V - Moon 2" "40416612","31001257","J230708 V - Moon 10" "40426612","31001451","J154631 V - Moon 17" "40436612","31001650","J162231 VII - Moon 5" "40446612","31001851","J161029 VI - Moon 5" "40456612","31002196","J143127 VI - Moon 16" "40486612","31000599","J142918 X - Moon 1" "50006612","30003197",
The final entry is the aforementioned stargate. It is worthy to point out that every single entry ending in 6612 is not a system, but a moon, asteroid belt, or other heavenly body within a system, with the sole exception of the above mentioned stargate.
I cross-referenced this list to the previously communicated list of "colonized systems" https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5176833#post5176833, 31002378, 31000005, 31001647, 31000520, and 31002479. No matches.
However, it bears mentioning that system 30000005 is not in any database to which I have access. Since I am using the publicly available celestial database (SDE), how "we" could be colonizing an unknown system is certainly worthy of further investigation.
It is also worthy of mentioning that the celestial cartesian coordinates of every wormhole system in Anoikis are also included in the database. With that data, I was able to construct a complete 3-D image of all known w-space system. The systems are colored according to their threat classification level (1-6), from blue to magenta. The map is to scale, with distances in kilometers labeled on the axes.
http://imgur.com/eKVubqb.gif
On a side note, the center of the universe (0,0,0) appears to be someone in the vicinity of Molden Heath.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
881
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:16:14 -
[150] - Quote
Double post, sorry. The 3 sets of numbers, +366470.5504 >> +021452.0104 >> 5586152.0017, are consistent with celestial distances measured in Astronomical Units (AUs). However, 5.5 million AUs is getting close to the maximum z coordinate variance of the entire Eve cluster. Think from Tenal to Paragon Soul.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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GForce917
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
0
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Posted - 2014.11.17 23:16:31 -
[151] - Quote
Of all the w-space celestials ending in 6612, only one, J142918 X - Moon 1, is in a wolf-rayet system. It's a Class 2 system with static connections to Class 2 and low security systems. I think this might be the system where they're holding Dr. Tukoss |

Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.11.18 05:26:25 -
[152] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:However, it bears mentioning that system 30000005 is not in any database to which I have access. Since I am using the publicly available celestial database (SDE), how "we" could be colonizing an unknown system is certainly worthy of further investigation. The assumption is that this particular piece of information was directed at "us"--Capsuleers.
There is one other entity that monitors these communications: CONCORD. As DED has already voiced subtle opposition to collaborating with ID:Tukoss, Hilen it is possible that this information is being directed at them.
I digress. I agree fully with your assertion. Further investigation is warranted. How do you suggest proceeding? |

Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
133
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Posted - 2014.11.18 05:59:07 -
[153] - Quote
By stuffing ourselves 3-4 holes deep down chains looking for -oh- this?
GForce917 wrote:J142918 X - Moon 1, is in a wolf-rayet system. It's a Class 2 system with static connections to Class 2 and low security systems.
Just an idea... 
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Trii Seo
685
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Posted - 2014.11.18 06:58:33 -
[154] - Quote
Nothing ventured, nothing gained!
It's a gigantic mess of "one hell of a stretch" but beats sitting idly.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Eran Mintor
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
695
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Posted - 2014.11.18 07:09:34 -
[155] - Quote
I admit I'm starting to have nightmares about signatures with how much I've been searching for that forsaken system. Hope someone with good intent finds it before the opportunity--if any--is passed.
-Eran |

dirtydebbs
the wreking crew
20
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Posted - 2014.11.18 08:09:31 -
[156] - Quote
Shaera Taam wrote:By stuffing ourselves 3-4 holes deep down chains looking for -oh- this? GForce917 wrote:J142918 X - Moon 1, is in a wolf-rayet system. It's a Class 2 system with static connections to Class 2 and low security systems. Just an idea... 
it is a good idea thought the transmission came from a low sec gate so if he is certainly stuck/living in a wh then i would hazard to guess that it would have a low sec static connection of maybe that system or even a as of yet unknown wh |

Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
29
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Posted - 2014.11.18 11:39:39 -
[157] - Quote
dirtydebbs wrote:on a slightly different level the SOE do seem to me more involved than previously thought and with these new advances in our research it seems this way, with sleeper caches coming about in hs after there advanced clocking methods are now malfunctioning or being shown on purpose, wasn't it they who apparently have clocked up or have been researching the eve gate for these hidden clocked technology's from the past and jove era ? also wasn't it they who gave us the zephyr? http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/ante/
the last few paragraphs point to us being used for research into anokis with this ship! it really boils down to how much more they know of this and exactly what information have they gained and are not sharing with us What is this nonsense, SOE would never hold scientists against their will, they are a humanitarian organisation!
Shaera Taam wrote:By stuffing ourselves 3-4 holes deep down chains looking for -oh- this? GForce917 wrote:J142918 X - Moon 1, is in a wolf-rayet system. It's a Class 2 system with static connections to Class 2 and low security systems. Just an idea... 
Good idea, looks like I'm going to patrol low secuity regions today. It'd be a good move for everyone to pick their own region. |

Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
199
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:06:33 -
[158] - Quote
Jaret Victorian wrote: What is this nonsense, SOE would never hold scientists against their will, they are a humanitarian organisation!
Indeed.
It's almost like someone is suggesting that not everything is at it seems...
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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PhilAlex
Solo Forever
0
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:53:56 -
[159] - Quote
The Sisters CEO is the sister (heh) of Salvador Sarpathi, ceo of the Serpentis.
I think that any irregular serpentis presence, especially in a Sisters or Sanctuary system should be reported and logged.
That's one family reunion I would like to see.
-P
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Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
134
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:58:22 -
[160] - Quote
Jaret Victorian wrote:Shaera Taam wrote:By stuffing ourselves 3-4 holes deep down chains looking for -oh- this? GForce917 wrote:J142918 X - Moon 1, is in a wolf-rayet system. It's a Class 2 system with static connections to Class 2 and low security systems. Just an idea...  Good idea, looks like I'm going to patrol low secuity regions today. It'd be a good move for everyone to pick their own region.
Put me down for Molden Heath.
The top part of the ring around the island is as close to home as I'm ever going to claim, and a patch of space I know well.
-st
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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GForce917
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
0
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:13:22 -
[161] - Quote
I've found J142918. There are four wormholes in system, two Serpentis sites (one Ruined Serpentis Crystal Quarry and one Central Serpentis Data Mining Site), two gas sites, one ore anomaly and several Sleeper anomalies. As far as I can tell, Tukoss isn't here, unless he's on board a cloaked ship or something. |

Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
882
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:15:50 -
[162] - Quote
GForce917 wrote:I've found J142918. There are four wormholes in system, two Serpentis sites (one Ruined Serpentis Crystal Quarry and one Central Serpentis Data Mining Site), two gas sites, one ore anomaly and several Sleeper anomalies. As far as I can tell, Tukoss isn't here, unless he's on board a cloaked ship or something.
Anything at planet 10, moon 1?
Also, 2 Serpentis sites? What are they doing in there, gathering gases for new kinds of combat boosters?
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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GForce917
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
0
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:31:05 -
[163] - Quote
Soldarius wrote: Anything at planet 10, moon 1?
Nothing, unless there's something cloaked here. |

Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
29
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:27:01 -
[164] - Quote
GForce917 wrote:I've found J142918. There are four wormholes in system, two Serpentis sites (one Ruined Serpentis Crystal Quarry and one Central Serpentis Data Mining Site), two gas sites, one ore anomaly and several Sleeper anomalies. As far as I can tell, Tukoss isn't here, unless he's on board a cloaked ship or something. Wow, that was fast, you have a good fortune, I must say. Then it looks like it is a dead end. Well, if Mr. Tukoss could broadcast once, he surely will be able to do it again (that, if he hasn't been severely punished by his captors). Let's hope we will not have to wait for another 3 years.
Shaera Taam wrote:
Put me down for Molden Heath.
The top part of the ring around the island is as close to home as I'm ever going to claim, and a patch of space I know well.
-st
Well, I was on my way to the outskirts of Metropolis, but it looks like GForce was faster than us. |

Trii Seo
685
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:57:08 -
[165] - Quote
Back to the drawing board.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
135
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Posted - 2014.11.18 22:30:35 -
[166] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:GForce917 wrote:I've found J142918. There are four wormholes in system, two Serpentis sites (one Ruined Serpentis Crystal Quarry and one Central Serpentis Data Mining Site), two gas sites, one ore anomaly and several Sleeper anomalies. As far as I can tell, Tukoss isn't here, unless he's on board a cloaked ship or something. Anything at planet 10, moon 1? Also, 2 Serpentis sites? What are they doing in there, gathering gases for new kinds of combat boosters?
Serpentis in J-space? Does anyone else find that a bit -erm- out of the ordinary?
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Trii Seo
685
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Posted - 2014.11.18 22:31:53 -
[167] - Quote
They've been snooping around J-Space for a while now. Must've sniffed out the profit after all those years.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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GForce917
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
2
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Posted - 2014.11.18 22:40:49 -
[168] - Quote
Well, I've got nothing in J142918, but if any of you want to check it out the entrance is currently in Gyerzen. Amarr lowsec, dead-end system 1 gate from highsec. |

EdXell
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.11.18 22:46:51 -
[169] - Quote
PhilAlex wrote:The Sisters CEO is the sister (heh) of Salvador Sarpathi, ceo of the Serpentis.
I think that any irregular serpentis presence, especially in a Sisters or Sanctuary system should be reported and logged.
GForce917 wrote: I've found J142918. There are four wormholes in system, two Serpentis sites (one Ruined Serpentis Crystal Quarry and one Central Serpentis Data Mining Site), two gas sites, one ore anomaly and several Sleeper anomalies. As far as I can tell, Tukoss isn't here, unless he's on board a cloaked ship or something.
(Emphasis added by me)
Bit of a coincidence there. GForce were you able to clear out the sleeper sites? I'm thinking this is a system we should be keeping an eye on. I have combat and probing experience if any Arek'Jaalan pilots are getting a fleet together. |

GForce917
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
2
|
Posted - 2014.11.18 23:22:49 -
[170] - Quote
I did not clear any of the sites, as I was in a Covert Ops ship not fitted for clearing data/relic sites, but before I left I also found a Sansha relic site in there as well. If anyone decides to check out any of these sites, please post your results/anything odd you noticed here. |

EdXell
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.11.18 23:26:21 -
[171] - Quote
There's some sort of Black Monolith at the Serpentis relic site. Was that here before? |

Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
135
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Posted - 2014.11.18 23:38:43 -
[172] - Quote
EdXell wrote:There's some sort of Black Monolith at the Serpentis relic site. Was that here before?
A Monolith?
I thought those were just a curiosity, or worse, some sort of ancient celestial joke... have they ever /done/ anything?
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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EdXell
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.11.19 00:00:16 -
[173] - Quote
This one isn't. It appears to be the same as the one in dead end. It doesn't react to anything I have on board.
I've cargo scanned all wrecks at this site. One of them showed up empty, the others had standard contents for a relic site. The empty one was way harder to crack than an empty wreck should be. I hope Tukoss wasn't hiding aboard because i accidentally blew it up when I tried to analyze it. |

Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
184
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Posted - 2014.11.19 00:44:17 -
[174] - Quote
Firstly I want to give a shout-out to GForce917 for keeping her eyes open and finding the wormhole. One of the other members in the alliance is currently exploring the wormhole - I'll report back if we discover anything.
Given the random nature of wormhole space, it may be worthwhile for us to maintain a covert presence in J142918. See if anything pops up. I'd do it myself, but I have obligations that require my personal attention and cannot be discharged remotely.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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Trii Seo
685
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Posted - 2014.11.19 01:17:43 -
[175] - Quote
There appears to be more to the "positional data" than I initially thought. Looking into it a bit more.
Unverified things so far that may change, or come out of errors: J155620 is a Wolf-Rayet with a high-security static exit and J165953 - another wolf-rayet, this time class 5 with C5 exit.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Geoffrey Boothroyd
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.19 03:38:09 -
[176] - Quote
EdXell wrote:PhilAlex wrote:The Sisters CEO is the sister (heh) of Salvador Sarpathi, ceo of the Serpentis.
I think that any irregular serpentis presence, especially in a Sisters or Sanctuary system should be reported and logged.
GForce917 wrote: I've found J142918. There are four wormholes in system, two Serpentis sites (one Ruined Serpentis Crystal Quarry and one Central Serpentis Data Mining Site), two gas sites, one ore anomaly and several Sleeper anomalies. As far as I can tell, Tukoss isn't here, unless he's on board a cloaked ship or something.
(Emphasis added by me) Bit of a coincidence there. GForce were you able to clear out the sleeper sites? I'm thinking this is a system we should be keeping an eye on. I have combat and probing experience if any Arek'Jaalan pilots are getting a fleet together.
Waitasec:
Wh's have been around for 5 years. Not a peep from any "pirate" faction. Not a glimpse.
Now, in the past month they are appearing. ALL of them.
But... only one of them has the good doctor.
I think the tail is wagging the dog here.
OOC: (I think CCP needed to have all factions in WH because they needed to have the kidnapper pirate faction there. The rest are merely decoys.)
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Gehen Sealbreaker
Sealbreaker Labs
35
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Posted - 2014.11.19 05:55:49 -
[177] - Quote
Shaera Taam wrote:EdXell wrote:There's some sort of Black Monolith at the Serpentis relic site. Was that here before? A Monolith? I thought those were just a curiosity, or worse, some sort of ancient celestial joke... have they ever /done/ anything?
Arek'Jalaan's Project Monolith studied those. However, there is little public data available about what they found. I wonder if we could reach Myyona, the Project Lead. But all this seems to be a stretch.
Regarding the Serpentis, they are probably liking the calm out there. It was a matter of time before "pirate" factions settled those locations.
As for the SIsters, I'm still not convinced. My investigation in Monalaz yielded nothing. And some of the allegations here are just blind conspiracy theories. Beware, the tinfoil oxidizes with pod goo. |

Eran Mintor
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
697
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Posted - 2014.11.19 08:22:57 -
[178] - Quote
Geoffrey Boothroyd wrote:EdXell wrote:PhilAlex wrote:The Sisters CEO is the sister (heh) of Salvador Sarpathi, ceo of the Serpentis.
I think that any irregular serpentis presence, especially in a Sisters or Sanctuary system should be reported and logged.
GForce917 wrote: I've found J142918. There are four wormholes in system, two Serpentis sites (one Ruined Serpentis Crystal Quarry and one Central Serpentis Data Mining Site), two gas sites, one ore anomaly and several Sleeper anomalies. As far as I can tell, Tukoss isn't here, unless he's on board a cloaked ship or something.
(Emphasis added by me) Bit of a coincidence there. GForce were you able to clear out the sleeper sites? I'm thinking this is a system we should be keeping an eye on. I have combat and probing experience if any Arek'Jaalan pilots are getting a fleet together. Waitasec: Wh's have been around for 5 years. Not a peep from any "pirate" faction. Not a glimpse. Now, in the past month they are appearing. ALL of them. But... only one of them has the good doctor. I think the tail is wagging the dog here. OOC: (I think CCP needed to have all factions in WH because they needed to have the kidnapper pirate faction there. The rest are merely decoys.)
The major "pirate" factions have been experimenting at covert research facilities for almost a year. It's only recently that I've seen the more insecure facilities that you typically find in null-sec, and many of these contain structures like stations, monasteries, and even unknown spatial rifts....
-Eran
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Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
135
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Posted - 2014.11.19 09:01:06 -
[179] - Quote
GForce917 wrote:I've found J142918. There are four wormholes in system, two Serpentis sites (one Ruined Serpentis Crystal Quarry and one Central Serpentis Data Mining Site), two gas sites, one ore anomaly and several Sleeper anomalies. As far as I can tell, Tukoss isn't here, unless he's on board a cloaked ship or something.
I have logged off my ship here for my standard rest and maintenance cycle, knowing full well that this could "strand" me in j-space for the forseeable future. I shall be following what chains I can in as safe a manner as I can given the environment.
Be safe all.
-st
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
882
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Posted - 2014.11.19 22:57:29 -
[180] - Quote
It seems likely that after all this time the pirate factions would have finally decided to extend their influence into w-space, and sleepers to investigate k-space. So after some reflection, I guess it isn't surprising. Bound to happen eventually.
As for the 3 sets of 4-decimal place numbers, going on the premise that they might be relative x/y/z coordinate in space, I constructed an algorithm to compare those numbers with every system in k-space relative to the galactic center. No matches.
I then went on to do a system-by-system comparison to see if any two systems had those distances between them. Again, no matches. In fact, the third set of numbers, if ti were the z-coordinate, would put such a system more than twice the distance of the nearest star from the galactic center. Or, figure the distance from Skarkon to the northern most system in Tenal, then double it.
Haven't we seen communications liek this before, where there was a set of 3 numerical sequences?
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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EdXell
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.11.20 17:14:16 -
[181] - Quote
I'm abandoning J142918. I've checked it a few times now and I'm not convinced there's anything out of the ordinary here. Also the roaming stealth bombers are making me twitchy.
If anyone else is still interested in this system the static has relocated to the Akhrad system (Ammatar space, 1 jump into lowsec). There's also currently an entrance in the Hadji system (Genesis region, 0.5 Amarr). Anyone who makes the trip should be aware that an alliance lives here. |

Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
137
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Posted - 2014.11.20 19:24:58 -
[182] - Quote
I could swear I have seen something like this before, but... I cannot seem to recall /where/...
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Anne O'Reilly
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.20 21:34:04 -
[183] - Quote
I fear with these new picture leaks of black sleeper ships, that the sleepers may have access to carrier technology.
A Sleeper carrier is bad. A sleeper carrier when we cannot counter with dreads or carriers of our own is worse.
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1086
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Posted - 2014.11.20 21:55:04 -
[184] - Quote
Anne O'Reilly wrote:I fear with these new picture leaks of black sleeper ships, that the sleepers may have access to carrier technology.
A Sleeper carrier is bad. A sleeper carrier when we cannot counter with dreads or carriers of our own is worse.
Picture Leaks? This intrigues me. I've been tied up with various business, so didn't keep up lately with what's going on. Any way to provide a source or link?
Aurora Arcology welcomes over 24.000 immigrants!
Newly discovered Sleeper sites contain advanced weapon blueprints!
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Trii Seo
685
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Posted - 2014.11.20 22:50:52 -
[185] - Quote
Somewhere out there, there's probably some kid with a 3D modelling suite laughing his hump off at freaking people out.
That said, I could swear I've seen this notation as well. Can't exactly place where though.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Anne O'Reilly
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.11.20 23:58:58 -
[186] - Quote
Jandice Ymladris wrote:Anne O'Reilly wrote:I fear with these new picture leaks of black sleeper ships, that the sleepers may have access to carrier technology.
A Sleeper carrier is bad. A sleeper carrier when we cannot counter with dreads or carriers of our own is worse.
Picture Leaks? This intrigues me. I've been tied up with various business, so didn't keep up lately with what's going on. Any way to provide a source or link?
http://now.eveonline.com/post/103127443133/all-the-mistakes-youre-making-weve-already
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Omega Tron
Amarr Mining Inc
39
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Posted - 2014.11.21 00:54:35 -
[187] - Quote
I am new to this role playing and lore following that you have here. However, I do believe that the Jove did not use a carrier at the battle of Vak'Atioth. It is described as a 'Mother Ship'. Therefore, is this what is now being shown?
Edit -- I am assuming that there is a relationship between the sleepers and the Jove.
EVE Online is CCP's sand box. -áThe sand is owned by CCP. -áWe just get to pay them a monthly fee to throw the sand at each other.-á-á
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2014.11.21 01:48:24 -
[188] - Quote
Omega Tron wrote:I am new to this role playing and lore following that you have here. However, I do believe that the Jove did not use a carrier at the battle of Vak'Atioth. It is described as a 'Mother Ship'. Therefore, is this what is now being shown?
Edit -- I am assuming that there is a relationship between the sleepers and the Jove.
((P/s: Use double brackets when posting OOC-ly to avoid confusion))
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
29
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Posted - 2014.11.21 12:30:04 -
[189] - Quote
Wait, isn't this the teaser for "Galactic Conquest 2" VR game? I was hoping they would add some new factions, I quite enjoy playing it in my pod while I have spare time.
((@Anne O'Reilly, @Omega Tron here, that should help)) |

Trii Seo
686
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:44:34 -
[190] - Quote
Graphics look too good for that to be true.
Previous attempt, slightly off the track - going with the wind, pretty much:
I've attempted to treat the "positional" strings as fakes with embedded data. For that, as per the encoding standard, the signs "+" and "." have been converted to their respective decimals (43 and 46).
Multiple celestial identifiers were found, one of which is a wolf-rayet system J141322
Attempting a different approach now. Will share results.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5690
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:12:29 -
[191] - Quote
Sansha carriers were bad enough.
I've seen Rifters hit from over 100KM out by sleeper cruisers.
Simply wandering the shadows looking about is not solving anything. I'm wondering if it's time to load up a Scorpion with every last bit of electronics gear the cargo will take and as many scientists and start probing not where we think activity will be, but where we think concerned parties might go? Like a mobile listening post?
Anybody willing to take that on as an impromptu AJ project I'll offer up a research grant to help pay for the hull, or I will do it myself. We'll need to get the equipment and people together on short order and one capsuleer to fly it and a concerted effort of the best systems to send this platform to and find out if anything.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Anslo
Scope Works
22320
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:14:05 -
[192] - Quote
You think anything we got will detect what they hide, when we can't even deal with cloaked scouts in a system in position for hours on end?
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Tyrel Toov
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
90
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Posted - 2014.11.21 23:35:30 -
[193] - Quote
Anslo wrote:You think anything we got will detect what they hide, when we can't even deal with cloaked scouts in a system in position for hours on end? back to the best way to find something, dont look for it.
trying to type all this on a broken phone at work sucks.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5694
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Posted - 2014.11.22 01:27:27 -
[194] - Quote
Anslo wrote:You think anything we got will detect what they hide, when we can't even deal with cloaked scouts in a system in position for hours on end?
For cloaked scouts we are looking for a specially equipped ship with ships that while specially equipped, cannot find it.
If these ... entities... are deploying cloaks specifically not to be found by us then you are most likely correct. If they cloak by their own nature or for another reason entirely, then we might find a way to pick up stray signals or energy signatures that their base cloak does not cover for their not expecting us to go to such a "wide band" in our search.
That we know as much about them as we do now favors my idea.
Unless they wanted to be discovered. 
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Tyrel Toov
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
90
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Posted - 2014.11.22 03:32:14 -
[195] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: If these ... entities... are deploying cloaks specifically not to be found
why else would one deploy a cloak?
trying to type all this on a broken phone at work sucks.
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1383
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Posted - 2014.11.22 10:09:26 -
[196] - Quote
I worry, the more we learn, the more I am concerned, there are more players in this play, than we realise. Are we pawns in a bigger game than we know? Or Just ants under foot blissfully unaware in an unseen battlefield? whilst we scurry for crumbs? Until the foot lands.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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Anne O'Reilly
Universal Corporation.
2
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Posted - 2014.11.22 21:12:14 -
[197] - Quote
I am unaware if this is the best place to post this, but a brilliant capsuleer on Reddit managed to decode the hex on the explorer who is quoted on the devblogs bio sheet.
TLDR: He transcoded the Hex to Chinese/Japanese and THEN translated it to english.
Full details on the reddit post below.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2n21ux/when_a_white_horse_is_not_a_horse_or/
(Since there was a fair bit of "decoding" wormhole text HERE, I put this here as well)
So.... what's it mean? Damned if I know.
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Edvar Maulerant
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2014.11.24 00:06:54 -
[198] - Quote
epicurus ataraxia wrote:Or Just ants under foot blissfully unaware in an unseen battlefield? I for one don't hide from ants. Think about it. You don't hide from something you can defeat; you simply ignore it. You hide from a predator. If you are looking at the whole picture, we are the predators, and the Sleepers and Empire/Pirate navies are easily our prey.
What you are suggesting is that something more is going on than we can comprehend. In this you are correct. There are plans in motion that we are not privy to. We do not fully understand how the wormholes function and it is obvious that we are being observed. CONCORD uses us to collect pieces of Sleeper technology.
We are powerful game pieces. We are, however, limited in utility. We are fractured, we are few, and we are vulnerable.
Add to this lack of communication and territorial behavior and we have a perfect storm of dysfunction that blinds us to any potential threat or discovery. Personally I would suggest what should have been suggested long ago. A Summit of our own. An attempt to lay out a potential plan of action if the wind should shift and we (capsuleers) find ourselves the targets of the "puppet masters" playing our strings.
Before the inevitable misunderstanding rears it's ugly head, I'm not talking about a symposium like the Seyllin Conference.
I'd be curious if any sort of progress could be made, or if we will continue to be tools. I'm also far too busy to organize such a thing myself. However if I have the time and resources I'd gladly participate. |

Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
184
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Posted - 2014.11.24 00:40:11 -
[199] - Quote
Edvar Maulerant wrote:I'd be curious if any sort of progress could be made, or if we will continue to be tools. I'm also far too busy to organize such a thing myself. However if I have the time and resources I'd gladly participate.
I find it amusing that you propose a plan to "fix" being a capsuleer, then immediately follow it up with a declaration that you have no intent to follow through on said plan.
Getting back to the actual topic at hand, I've asked the rest of OI to keep an eye open for the wormhole Trii Seo mentioned. It's apparently a Class 4 wormhole, and our home within wormhole space has a Class 4 static. With luck, I'll have something to report soon.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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Edvar Maulerant
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2014.11.24 02:36:28 -
[200] - Quote
Siobhan MacLeary wrote:I find it amusing that you propose a plan to "fix" being a capsuleer, then immediately follow it up with a declaration that you have no intent to follow through on said plan. I believe you misunderstood my statement. My skills and talents--not to mention time--lie elsewhere, and while I would gladly assist, I do not have the skill to lead such a monumental task. I would rather voice an opinion that something should happen, regardless of intent to follow through, than not voice it at all. Perhaps my idea will spark the interest of another. |

Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
883
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Posted - 2014.11.24 15:11:50 -
[201] - Quote
Anne O'Reilly wrote:I am unaware if this is the best place to post this, but a brilliant capsuleer on Reddit managed to decode the hex on the explorer who is quoted on the devblogs bio sheet. TLDR: He transcoded the Hex to Chinese/Japanese and THEN translated it to english. Full details on the reddit post below. http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2n21ux/when_a_white_horse_is_not_a_horse_or/
(Since there was a fair bit of "decoding" wormhole text HERE, I put this here as well) So.... what's it mean? Damned if I know.
You know.... all the CJK characters, when encoded into hex unicode, start much lower. Unless this person cares to explain how they came up with the translation, I'm not buying it.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
11840
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Posted - 2014.11.24 21:31:36 -
[202] - Quote
[deleted]
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Trii Seo
687
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:02:11 -
[203] - Quote
"From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity. Not an entity such as any you can conceive of, nor I - an entity more primordial than the elements themselves, yet constantly coming into existence even as it is destroyed."
You know, this might just be my favorite passage from Macaper. Think about it: she addressed people before the proper age of capsuleers. Talking about an entity reborn each time it falls, bringing chaos everywhere it goes? One way to get yourself labeled as a nutter in no time, but also describe us.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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Lavich Stahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:48:02 -
[204] - Quote
Trii Seo wrote:"From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity. Not an entity such as any you can conceive of, nor I - an entity more primordial than the elements themselves, yet constantly coming into existence even as it is destroyed."
You know, this might just be my favorite passage from Macaper. Think about it: she addressed people before the proper age of capsuleers. Talking about an entity reborn each time it falls, bringing chaos everywhere it goes? One way to get yourself labeled as a nutter in no time, but also describe us.
Yes! We must reclaim our humanity before it is too late! Before the Storm...
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
888
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:27:26 -
[205] - Quote
Well, now we have quite the coincidence.
In this post I indicated that the celestial 50006612 might be a stargate within the MTGF-2 system. I've further isolated that as the 5T-A3D gate.
Now all of a sudden we've got Nation forces behaving strangely right next door in CZ-06R, and apparently on their way into Cobalt Edge.
Quite the coinci-dink.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Cap'n Schmitty
Critical Mass Inc.
9
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Posted - 2014.11.26 00:55:23 -
[206] - Quote
I beat you to it, but yes indeed, perhaps Oasa isn't completely irrelevant after all.
If we have Sansha, Sleepers, and rogue drones all possibly working concurrently, even together (though that's unlikely), that could spell some interesting things about to happen...
It was noted that the Sansha forces weren't using wormholes to escape from Oasa - obviously this means there's something about the wormholes, either the Nation's artificial ones or any natural ones they used, that must be dangerous. Are they somehow becoming unstable? Are they being camped by Sleepers and/or drones? And whatever's going on with those wormholes, could it eventually extend to the ones we use regularly?
@CaptainCrutches
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Trii Seo
687
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Posted - 2014.11.26 07:52:11 -
[207] - Quote
Yes, great, let's dissolve it all into credit-claiming.
There's something in the wormholes that scares the Nation. That's... quite intersting, honestly, as Sansha are known for trying to be the scary ones - now they leg it the conventional way because something inside made them go code brown.
And, as a note, this something inside might be headed our way.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1397
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Posted - 2014.11.26 10:54:02 -
[208] - Quote
Trii Seo wrote:Yes, great, let's dissolve it all into credit-claiming.
There's something in the wormholes that scares the Nation. That's... quite intersting, honestly, as Sansha are known for trying to be the scary ones - now they leg it the conventional way because something inside made them go code brown.
And, as a note, this something inside might be headed our way.
Yes, the prophecies, whilst shrouded in mystery, are coming more into focus and their nebulous message taking on solidity and turning into reality.
We may be well served to re-evaluate them in the light of current events, they may help us survive the coming storm.
We have great freedoms, and freedom to act and learn, let us use them whilst we still can.
We may never have such a luxury again.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
0
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:52:28 -
[209] - Quote
http://38.media.tumblr.com/acc31ac1c2662955b5ce2d4ed82501ba/tumblr_nfle1n2JCb1u3t3e6o1_1280.png
This picture, gathered from irrelevant sources, appeared 23h ago, with another text of prophecy.
Quote:"Every place thus far inhabited by our species has been fractured by veins of discord, ultimately crumbling beneath the weight of our hatred. And yet, through a combination of blind providence and technological progress, we continually find new havens to sustain us. New Eden is mankindGÇÖs latest such garden, one more chance to light the dark of space with motes of hopeful civilization. Would that we could dream it wonGÇÖt be our last."
-Dr. Damelia Macaper, The Seven Events of the Apocalypse
W-¦th those, and the previous ones like these http://i.imgur.com/R9plxpz.jpg are out there to explain us something, what Hilen Tukoss is warning uss as a storm.
On the second photo, we merged the two info piece and saw that they are actually the same thing,but you can clearly see that, the middle part is opening to reveal an orb shaped, "thing" that we, in BERSA Co. cannot describe or understand as of yet.
You, tried to described it as a Sleeper carrier, but I think it seems a bit bigger, thus more dangerous.
epicurus ataraxia talked about the prophecies. Well, sure they are out there to guide our path. We in BERSA Co. believe that, If we focus our research according to that, without leaving the science way, we will prevail.
GForce917 wrote:I've found J142918. There are four wormholes in system, two Serpentis sites (one Ruined Serpentis Crystal Quarry and one Central Serpentis Data Mining Site), two gas sites, one ore anomaly and several Sleeper anomalies. As far as I can tell, Tukoss isn't here, unless he's on board a cloaked ship or something.
So , fromm all the showings and such, and considering the efforts, he is in either that system on a cloacked ship, or in Oasa.
We think this based on that picture from the same source we talked earliear
http://40.media.tumblr.com/34a181fca7cb471dfb29c57dad6643e2/tumblr_nfai4xmyxx1u3t3e6o1_1280.png
There are two celestials on there, one is cloacked. So possibly it is a ship. And the other one seems like either a stargate.
Most crucial one is, the background seems like in the J142918 , and there are some systems in oasa who has similar nebula structure.
We will continune our search based on these informations. Just wanted to see out perspective
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EdXell
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:06:00 -
[210] - Quote
Cap'n Schmitty wrote: It was noted that the Sansha forces weren't using wormholes to escape from Oasa - obviously this means there's something about the wormholes, either the Nation's artificial ones or any natural ones they used, that must be dangerous. Are they somehow becoming unstable? Are they being camped by Sleepers and/or drones? And whatever's going on with those wormholes, could it eventually extend to the ones we use regularly?
Is it just Oasa? Sansha have other incursion sites, are they still using their wormholes for transport in those? |

Sefer Noctis
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:31:24 -
[211] - Quote
" http://40.media.tumblr.com/34a181fca7cb471dfb29c57dad6643e2/tumblr_nfai4xmyxx1u3t3e6o1_1280.png
There are two celestials on there, one is cloacked. So possibly it is a ship. And the other one seems like either a stargate. "
http://i.imgur.com/cF2QKAt.png
The cloaked objected almost looks like a station, I have enhanced the image so the cloaked object appears greener than the background nebula but I'm not an artist and know little about image editing. Maybe someone can do a better job than this.
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EdXell
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:37:47 -
[212] - Quote
On a hunch I diverted to promised land to check on the wormhole there. I figured if something was wrong with Sansha wormholes maybe this one was affected too.
http://i.imgur.com/Fhc6MZx.jpg
Now I've never been to the promised land wormhole before so maybe I'm wrong. However this doesn't look like any of the pictures that I can find. Can anyone who's been there more recently confirm? |

Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
0
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:03:45 -
[213] - Quote
What are the odds...
So I just got a transmission from an unknown stranger named Anoikis Entity... ((Got an ingame mail))
He seems to be associated with Center for Advanced Studies according to CONCORD Records but only for two days...
The topic of the message is 7 65 20 61 72 65 20 72 65 74 75 72 6e 69 6e 67.
The Rest is below
Quote:3e 3e 3e 49 6e 69 74 20 52 65 6d 6f 74 65 20 41 63 63 65 73 73 0d 0a 3e 3e 3e 53 65 61 72 63 68 20 49 64 65 6e 74 69 74 79 20 44 61 74 61 62 61 73 65 0d 0a 3e 3e 3e 42 79 70 61 73 73 20 46 69 72 65 77 61 6c 6c 0d 0a 3e 3e 3e 53 65 74 20 54 69 6d 65 6f 75 74 20 31 34 20 64 61 79 2d 75 6e 69 74 73 0d 0a 3e 3e 3e 49 6e 6a 65 63 74 20 44 61 74 61 20 53 74 72 65 61 6d 0d 0a 3e 3e 3e 45 6e 63 72 79 70 74 69 6f 6e 20 43 6f 6d 70 6c 65 74 65 0d 0a 3e 3e 3e 42 45 47 49 4e 20 54 52 41 4e 53 4d 49 53 53 49 4f 4e
56 32 55 67 59 58 4a 6c 49 48 64 6f 59 58 51 67 65 57 39 31 63 69 42 6a 59 58 42 7a 64 57 78 6c 5a 58 49 67 59 32 39 74 62 58 56 75 61 58 52 35 49 47 74 75 62 33 64 7a 49 47 46 7a 49 46 4e 73 5a 57 56 77 5a 58 4a 7a 49 43 68 75 62 33 51 67 5a 57 35 30 61 58 4a 6c 62 48 6b 67 59 32 39 79 63 6d 56 6a 64 43 42 75 59 57 31 6c 4c 43 42 69 64 58 51 67 64 32 55 67 64 32 6c 73 62 43 42 6e 62 79 42 33 61 58 52 6f 49 47 6c 30 49 47 5a 76 63 69 42 75 62 33 63 67 59 58 4d 67 61 58 51 67 61 58 4d 67 59 57 78 79 5a 57 46 6b 65 53 42 6b 5a 57 56 77 62 48 6b 67 61 57 35 6e 63 6d 46 70 62 6d 56 6b 49 47 6c 75 49 48 6c 76 64 58 49 67 59 32 39 75 63 32 4e 70 62 33 56 7a 62 6d 56 7a 63 79 6b 75 44 51 6f 4e 43 6c 64 6c 49 47 46 79 5a 53 42 33 59 58 52 6a 61 47 6c 75 5a 79 77 67 64 32 55 67 59 58 4a 6c 49 48 64 68 61 58 52 70 62 6d 63 73 49 47 46 75 5a 43 42 33 5a 53 42 68 63 6d 55 67 63 6d 56 30 64 58 4a 75 61 57 35 6e 49 47 35 76 64 79 34 4e 43 67 30 4b 56 32 46 30 59 32 67 67 65 57 39 31 63 69 42 7a 64 47 56 77 4c 43 42 6a 59 58 42 7a 64 57 78 6c 5a 58 49 68 44 51 70 58 5a 53 42 68 63 6d 55 67 5a 47 56 6c 63 47 78 35 49 47 52 70 63 32 46 77 63 47 39 70 62 6e 52 6c 5a 43 42 33 61 58 52 6f 49 48 64 6f 59 58 51 67 65 57 39 31 49 47 46 79 5a 53 42 6b 62 32 6c 75 5a 79 42 30 62 79 42 76 64 58 49 67 59 32 68 70 62 47 52 79 5a 57 34 75 44 51 6f 4e 43 6c 64 6c 49 48 64 6c 63 6d 55 67 63 47 46 30 61 57 56 75 64 43 42 68 62 6d 51 67 63 47 46 7a 63 32 6c 32 5a 53 42 6d 62 33 49 67 64 47 39 76 49 47 78 76 62 6d 63 67 4c 53 42 30 61 47 46 30 49 47 4e 6f 59 57 35 6e 5a 58 4d 67 62 6d 39 33 4c 67 30 4b 44 51 70 5a 62 33 55 67 5a 47 39 75 64 43 42 72 62 6d 39 33 4c 43 42 33 61 47 46 30 49 47 68 68 64 6d 55 67 65 57 39 31 49 47 52 76 62 6d 55 75 44 51 70 4f 62 33 63 67 61 58 51 67 61 58 4d 67 62 33 56 79 49 48 52 31 63 6d 34 75 44 51 6f 4e 43 6c 52 6f 61 58 4d 67 63 48 56 77 63 47 56 30 4c 58 56 75 61 58 51 67 64 32 6c 73 62 43 42 30 61 57 31 6c 62 33 56 30 49 47 6c 75 49 44 45 30 49 47 52 68 65 53 31 31 62 6d 6c 30 63 79 77 67 59 6e 56 30 49 47 39 31 63 69 42 6a 62 32 78 73 5a 57 4e 30 61 58 5a 6c 49 47 6c 7a 49 47 64 6c 64 48 52 70 62 6d 63 67 63 6d 56 68 5a 48 6b 75 44 51 6f 4e 43 6c 52 6f 61 58 4d 67 61 58 4d 67 65 57 39 31 63 69 42 7a 62 32 78 6c 49 48 64 68 63 6d 35 70 62 6d 63 75
3e 3e 3e 45 4e 44 20 54 52 41 4e 53 4d 49 53 53 49 4f 4e 0d 0a 3e 3e 3e 53 61 76 65 20 44 61 74 61 0d 0a 3e 3e 3e 43 6c 65 61 72 20 4c 6f 67 20 46 69 6c 65 73 0d 0a 3e 3e 3e 44 49 53 43 4f 4e 4e 45 43 54
This is some kind of Binary code or something.. That I cannot solved yet but we are focused on that rightnow... as It could be related.. I dont know.. |

Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
0
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:56:36 -
[214] - Quote
Sorry for the repost, I cannot add the Transmission Logs to the same post.
Quote:[14:04:49] Taraki Orani > hello [14:05:25] Taraki Orani > May I ask who are you? and why did you send me the message? [14:05:25] Anoikis Entity > 57 65 20 61 72 65 20 6f 6e 6c 69 6e 65 ( We are online ) [14:05:42] Taraki Orani > What does it mean? [14:06:13] Sefer Noctis > Hello [14:06:14] Taraki Orani > what are those binary codes mean? [14:06:42] Sefer Noctis > We have someone working on translating them now Taraki [14:06:49] Anoikis Entity > 57 65 20 61 72 65 20 63 6f 6d 6d 75 6e 69 63 61 74 69 6f 6e 20 75 6e 69 74 2e 20 57 65 20 61 72 65 20 6d 61 6e 79 2e 20 57 65 20 63 68 6f 73 65 6e 20 72 61 6e 64 6f 6d 6c 79 20 73 65 61 72 63 68 2e (We are communication unit. We are many. We chosen randomly search. ) [14:07:21] Taraki Orani > He definitaley is trying to sort out a communitacion to say us something [14:07:23] Sefer Noctis > So if your a communication unit, whats your purpose? [14:07:53] Anoikis Entity > 43 6f 6d 6d 75 6e 69 63 61 74 69 6f 6e 20 70 72 6f 74 6f 63 6f 6c 73 20 69 6e 63 6f 6d 70 6c 65 74 65 2e (Communication protocols incomplete. ) [14:08:25] Sefer Noctis > Who encoded your protocols? [14:08:28] Anoikis Entity > 4d 6f 72 65 20 64 61 74 61 20 72 65 71 75 69 72 65 64 (More data required ) [14:08:43] Sefer Noctis > What kind of data? [14:09:05] Taraki Orani > Wait, you understand this? [14:09:13] Sefer Noctis > Yes I do [14:09:23] Sefer Noctis > Its Hexadecimal code [14:09:30] Anoikis Entity > 4c 61 6e 67 75 61 67 65 20 64 65 63 6f 64 69 6e 67 (Language decoding) [14:09:57] Taraki Orani > we need to find its keyData [14:10:09] Anoikis Entity > 45 72 72 6f 72 20 64 65 63 6f 64 69 6e 67 20 6f 75 74 70 75 74 20 73 74 72 65 61 6d (Error decoding output stream) [14:10:12] Sefer Noctis > You lack the ability to decode our language? [14:10:31] Sefer Noctis > Ok so just your output is messed up [14:10:37] Sefer Noctis > Do you know your location? [14:11:31] Anoikis Entity > 45 72 72 6f 72 20 64 65 63 6f 64 69 6e 67 20 6f 75 74 70 75 74 20 73 74 72 65 61 6d (Error decoding output stream) [14:14:05] Sefer Noctis > Your making little sense [14:14:32] Sefer Noctis > 57 68 6f 20 6d 61 64 65 20 79 6f 75 3f (Who made you?) [14:18:58] Taraki Orani > 77 68 61 74 20 69 73 20 79 6f 75 72 20 70 75 72 70 6f 73 65 3f (what is your purpose? ) [14:22:13] Anoikis Entity > 42 6f 64 79 20 6d 61 6e 79 20 73 6f 75 72 63 65 73 2e 20 50 75 72 70 6f 73 65 20 73 74 61 74 65 64 20 63 6f 6d 6d 75 6e 69 63 61 74 69 6f 6e 20 61 6e 64 20 6d 6f 6e 69 74 6f 72 69 6e 67 2e (Body many sources. Purpose stated communication and monitoring.) [14:22:49] Sefer Noctis > Monitoring what? [14:23:53] EdXell > 77 68 61 74 20 61 72 65 20 79 6f 75 20 6d 6f 6e 69 74 6f 72 69 6e 67 3f (what are you monitoring?) [14:25:27] Anoikis Entity > 4d 6f 6e 69 74 6f 72 69 6e 67 20 61 6c 6c 20 6f 66 20 63 6c 75 73 74 65 72 20 61 6e 64 20 79 6f 75 2e (Monitoring all of cluster and you.) [14:26:05] Anoikis Entity > 57 61 72 6e 69 6e 67 2e 20 49 6e 73 75 66 66 69 63 69 65 6e 74 20 63 68 61 6e 6e 65 6c 20 62 61 6e 64 77 69 64 74 68 2e (Warning. Insufficient channel bandwidth.) [14:26:25] Sefer Noctis > How can we boost the signal? [14:27:01] Anoikis Entity > 54 72 61 6e 73 6d 69 73 73 69 6f 6e 73 20 69 6e 74 65 72 63 65 70 74 65 64 2e 20 44 69 73 63 6f 6e 6e 65 63 74 69 6f 6e 20 69 6d 6d 69 6e 65 6e 74 2e 2e 2e (Transmissions intercepted. Disconnection imminent...) [14:27:12] Taraki Orani > 44 6f 20 79 6f 75 20 6b 6e 6f 77 20 77 68 65 72 65 20 68 69 6c 65 6e 20 74 75 6b 6f 73 73 20 69 73 (Do you know where hilen tukoss is) [14:27:33] Sefer Noctis > Intercepted by who? [14:28:17] EdXell > 77 68 79 20 61 72 65 20 79 6f 75 20 6d 6f 6e 69 74 6f 72 69 6e 67 20 75 73 3f (why are you monitoring us?) [143409]AnoikisEntity>3a3a44415441204552524f520d0a3a3a434f4e4e454354494f4e2054494d454f55540d0a3a3a434c4f534544 (:DATA ERROR::CONNECTION TIMEOUT::CLOSED)
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Sefer Noctis
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.26 14:56:53 -
[215] - Quote
>>>Init Remote Access >>>Search Identity Database >>>Bypass Firewall >>>Set Timeout 14 day-units >>>Inject Data Stream >>>Encryption Complete >>>BEGIN TRANSMISSION??
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??
>>>END TRANSMISSION >>>Save Data >>>Clear Log Files >>>DISCONNECT
The second code is Base 64. The message reads;
We are what your capsuleer community knows as Sleepers (not entirely correct name, but we will go with it for now as it is already deeply ingrained in your consciousness).
We are watching, we are waiting, and we are returning now.
Watch your step, capsuleer! We are deeply disappointed with what you are doing to our children.
We were patient and passive for too long - that changes now.
You dont know, what have you done. Now it is our turn.
This puppet-unit will timeout in 14 day-units, but our collective is getting ready.
This is your sole warning.
I'm only decoding what people send me, this may all be a fake. Very vague messages and no real information about the subjects relating to this so I'm taking this with a pinch of salt. |

Anslo
Scope Works
22627
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:13:17 -
[216] - Quote
Well, if it isn't fake.....come at us.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
1
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:30:43 -
[217] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Well, if it isn't fake.....come at us.
It is not a scientific approach... But I share your enthusiasm..
So to speak... |

Anslo
Scope Works
22627
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:35:17 -
[218] - Quote
Taraki Orani wrote:Anslo wrote:Well, if it isn't fake.....come at us. It is not a scientific approach... But I share your enthusiasm.. So to speak...
Sure it is. Material durability testing.
With guns.
Lots of them.
....for science.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Kalaratiri
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
388
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Posted - 2014.11.26 15:42:35 -
[219] - Quote
99.8% chance this is total bullshit. Unless the Sleepers learn to talk to us through bad Gallentean holo-dramas, I doubt they would speak in such a ridiculous style.
She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.
This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. -á- CCP Falcon
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1445
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:15:57 -
[220] - Quote
As far as I know, it is bogus, since even as gallentean school as CAS wouldn't graduate a Sleeper. Well, maybe they would graduate a sleeper in form of a student, who had slept through all the lessons and knows nothing, but "yey freedom, democracy, blablabla".
Add to this that name Anoikis comes from us, not them. |

Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
124
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:15:58 -
[221] - Quote
EdXell wrote:On a hunch I diverted to promised land to check on the wormhole there. I figured if something was wrong with Sansha wormholes maybe this one was affected too. http://i.imgur.com/Fhc6MZx.jpgNow I've never been to the promised land wormhole before so maybe I'm wrong. However this doesn't look like any of the pictures that I can find. Can anyone who's been there more recently confirm? Clearly I need to stop sleeping so I don't fall behind on the latest news.
For what it's worth, I've been keeping a fairly close eye on the Promised Land wormhole, and while it's exterior appearance has changed, the view through the hole has not (it's long suggested an exit in Pure Blind, but a thorough canvassing of the Region a while ago found no evidence of the other end).
Author, EVE Travel
Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
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Rhavas
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
324
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:38:37 -
[222] - Quote
Kalaratiri wrote:99.8% chance this is total bullshit. Unless the Sleepers learn to talk to us through bad Gallentean holo-dramas, I doubt they would speak in such a ridiculous style.
This is my take as well.
Author of Interstellar Privateer
Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
30
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:59:14 -
[223] - Quote
Kalaratiri wrote:99.8% chance this is total bullshit. Unless the Sleepers learn to talk to us through bad Gallentean holo-dramas, I doubt they would speak in such a ridiculous style. Someone had a party with boosters and forgot to hide their datapad. |

Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
185
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:17:24 -
[224] - Quote
I'm fairly certain "Anoikis Entity" is someone playing at silly buggers.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1119
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:24:28 -
[225] - Quote
Siobhan MacLeary wrote:I'm fairly certain "Anoikis Entity" is someone playing at silly buggers.
I agree there. On the other hand this new Bright Star that people are reporting about all over on the other hand does look like a genuine strange event....
Celebrating a decade: Ushra'Khan
YC116 Sleeper data research race: Tech 3 destroyers unveiled! (Updated)
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Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Ocularis Inferno
185
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Posted - 2014.11.26 22:25:52 -
[226] - Quote
Jandice Ymladris wrote:Siobhan MacLeary wrote:I'm fairly certain "Anoikis Entity" is someone playing at silly buggers. I agree there. On the other hand this new Bright Star that people are reporting about all over on the other hand does look like a genuine strange event....
It's definitely interesting - a possible supernova event in Jove space is something special.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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Sefer Noctis
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.27 12:27:31 -
[227] - Quote
Quote: It's definitely interesting - a possible supernova event in Jove space is something special.
Do we know of any reason that someone/thing may cause a supernova event? Maybe something to do with creating spatial rifts or wormholes such as during "The Event" that caused the first opening of the wormholes in New Eden
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Aiko Ueshiba
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2014.11.27 12:38:38 -
[228] - Quote
Sefer Noctis wrote:Quote: It's definitely interesting - a possible supernova event in Jove space is something special. Do we know of any reason that someone/thing may cause a supernova event? Maybe something to do with creating spatial rifts or wormholes such as during "The Event" that caused the first opening of the wormholes in New Eden
Or maybe it's just a garden-variety nova and we're reading too much into this?
"... I assume that any work which engages with the future must necessarily consist of fragments of the past; any vision we have of the future is necessarily built of our experience to the moment in which we conceive of the vision." W. Gibson.
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Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
2
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Posted - 2014.11.27 13:07:07 -
[229] - Quote
Aiko Ueshiba wrote:Sefer Noctis wrote:Quote: It's definitely interesting - a possible supernova event in Jove space is something special. Do we know of any reason that someone/thing may cause a supernova event? Maybe something to do with creating spatial rifts or wormholes such as during "The Event" that caused the first opening of the wormholes in New Eden Or maybe it's just a garden-variety nova and we're reading too much into this?
Well, maybe in caldari space these kind of "work accidents" are occasional. As your so called "workforce" tend to die in peril.
But I for one come to where I am with "reading too much into everything suspicious".
That is what science comes from, remember? Asking questions who others cannot dare.
I wish Rhavas can hear this.. If so, can he check that whether if this is caused by any -¦sogen-5 explosion or something related?
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Nathan Reynold
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:33:57 -
[230] - Quote
Sefer Noctis wrote:Quote: It's definitely interesting - a possible supernova event in Jove space is something special. Do we know of any reason that someone/thing may cause a supernova event? Maybe something to do with creating spatial rifts or wormholes such as during "The Event" that caused the first opening of the wormholes in New Eden What do we know about the region UUA-F4 as of now? It is stationless space and if we can believe the map in the proximity of jovian space. So if they either could not reach it or had reasons not to colonize it, or tried to colonize it and whoever was fighting them decided they would rather see the whole region burn than give in to jovians. I like to believe that the events around that star explosion happened decades if not centuries ago. |

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1121
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:39:21 -
[231] - Quote
Nathan Reynold wrote:Sefer Noctis wrote:Quote: It's definitely interesting - a possible supernova event in Jove space is something special. Do we know of any reason that someone/thing may cause a supernova event? Maybe something to do with creating spatial rifts or wormholes such as during "The Event" that caused the first opening of the wormholes in New Eden What do we know about the region UUA-F4 as of now? It is stationless space and if we can believe the map in the proximity of jovian space. So if they either could not reach it or had reasons not to colonize it, or tried to colonize it and whoever was fighting them decided they would rather see the whole region burn than give in to jovians. I like to believe that the events around that star explosion happened decades if not centuries ago.
As it's a confirmed FTL event, it's likely alot more recent. Whatever transpired that caused this stellar phenomenon to occur is still unknown however as the region is not occupied by any known faction.
Hopefully we'll find out more, but this Bright Star is not unique as such phenomenon of a bright star appearing simultaneously in the sky of every system in New Eden occurred once before.
I used this as basis for my article on it: Strange bright star appears in the sky across New Eden!
Strange bright star appears in the sky across New Eden!
Celebrating a decade: Ushra'Khan, fighting for Freedom
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Frenjo Borkstar
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.11.28 18:20:53 -
[232] - Quote
I've done my own research in this area, me and one of my associates, Aden, have been conducting periodic sweeps of Eram, as we speak I am heading there under cloak to probe the system, I will report my findings. I find this deeply disturbing... The Seyllin incident all over again, this time in Jove space... Not even they will be able to stop the formation of new wormholes, if that's indeed what caused it in the first place.
Later edit: I believe the Jove use some kind of wormhole jamming technology, or their space naturally blocks the formation of wormholes, I have a theory... Could the technology or natural interference be causing a space-time fissure as the... Universe, I suppose, attempts to create new wormholes in the heart of the phenomenon? If only we could access the systems to find out...
Has anyone even attempted to contact the Jove? If they still exist... |

Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
147
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Posted - 2014.11.28 23:03:44 -
[233] - Quote
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:Has anyone even attempted to contact the Jove? If they still exist...
To the best of my knowledge, any attempts at communication have either not been received, or are summarily ignored.
At this point, I believe we are on our own...
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Frenjo Borkstar
Viziam Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.11.29 00:04:23 -
[234] - Quote
Shaera Taam wrote:Frenjo Borkstar wrote:Has anyone even attempted to contact the Jove? If they still exist... To the best of my knowledge, any attempts at communication have either not been received, or are summarily ignored. At this point, I believe we are on our own...
Indeed, CONCORD are the only ones who even have access to Jove technology or communication systems, we hope. I'm trying to contact one of my associates inside the DED, but as of yet, no luck.
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Frenjo Borkstar
Viziam Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.11.29 15:26:49 -
[235] - Quote
Vieve Creston wrote:It has come to the attention of the Directive Enforcement Department that a number of individuals have been donating items to a resource drop in Site One in the Eram system. We are also aware this effort is taking place at the request of an ambiguously identified person. The DED would like to take the opportunity to strongly advise against this course of action until such time as the identity of the person initiating this effort can be verified.
Despite claims that this person is Dr Hilen Tukoss, we are unable to verify the identity of the sender of the transmission requesting capsuleer assistance, and we have had no confirmed contact with Dr Tukoss since his disappearance. The DED is also unable to identify the original source of the carrier signal for the original transmission, or this transmission prior to its relay through transponder 30003453-50008995-50006664.
Please refrain from further interactions with any claimant of this NeoCom ident until their true identity and motives are verified. We repeat that it is strongly advised to stand down and refrain from following requests or instructions from such a source.
Thank you.
This is even more indicative of distrust to capsuleers, rather than Dr. Tukoss' message. If you'd like to arrest me, please find me and do so.
This explains why I haven't been able to contact my associate inside the DED also, being that there's an official statement being made.
I'd like to make everyone, especially the DED aware, that scientific research into the bright star, and links to site one, are being investigated by myself, the Arek'Jaalan project, and the IGS community.
((Forgive the double post, as I replied from a link I was given and didn't see my initial post, take it as the same transmission cut in half)) |

Lindon Thras
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.29 19:55:31 -
[236] - Quote
Forgive me for my relative ignorance in these matters, but this "Arek'Jaalan" project sounds interesting. Still, whoever this doctor is, he seems like he's in danger, and that we all may be in danger soon.
If I can assist in the investigation, I'll do what I can to help. Can anyone point me to where I can learn more about the good doctor or the Arek'Jaalan project? |

Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
34
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Posted - 2014.11.29 20:05:42 -
[237] - Quote
Lindon Thras wrote:Forgive me for my relative ignorance in these matters, but this "Arek'Jaalan" project sounds interesting. Still, whoever this doctor is, he seems like he's in danger, and that we all may be in danger soon.
If I can assist in the investigation, I'll do what I can to help. Can anyone point me to where I can learn more about the good doctor or the Arek'Jaalan project? There is little we can do now, only to prepare for an evacuation to the wormhole space if somehow this thing is going to harm our cluster. Which is unlikely.
You want some information about Arek'Jaalan? Well, here is a public article available with some general information and there, in "Aurora Arcology News" you will find some information about recent events. |

Lindon Thras
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.29 21:40:03 -
[238] - Quote
Jaret Victorian wrote:Lindon Thras wrote:Forgive me for my relative ignorance in these matters, but this "Arek'Jaalan" project sounds interesting. Still, whoever this doctor is, he seems like he's in danger, and that we all may be in danger soon.
If I can assist in the investigation, I'll do what I can to help. Can anyone point me to where I can learn more about the good doctor or the Arek'Jaalan project? There is little we can do now, only to prepare for an evacuation to the wormhole space if somehow this thing is going to harm our cluster. Which is unlikely. You want some information about Arek'Jaalan? Well, here is a public article available with some general information and there and there, in "Aurora Arcology News" you will find some information about recent events.
Thank you very much. I'm also consulting the Global Object Organization Gantry Library Environment to see what information it will yield. I just thought it best to start with those that seem familiar with the topic. |

Malcolm Faust
Soldiers of Cthulhu
11
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Posted - 2014.11.30 06:20:14 -
[239] - Quote
Sorry, My crew and I are dealing with a rather nasty plasma fire. However I couldn't help but notice that someone mentioned the Seyllin incident and the region UUA-F4. If memory serves, there was evidence of an 'incident' occuring in that very region. |

Araikas Rhal
Hair-Trigger
4
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Posted - 2014.11.30 08:21:00 -
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Has anyone taken the time to cross examine the location's (if enough information about the Luminary Anomalies is available) of the first "Bright Star" event, and the current one? Knowing whether or not both anomalies have the same, or near same, origin as far as location goes might yield some more concrete evidence as to what were looking at here. I ask this because we have an idea of the current lights origin. Whereas i cannot find records detailed enough to point a location of the first Bright Star event. If the current anomaly is in the same region as the last, i would put forth that we are looking at another Seyllin event. Though if the lower intensity of the current light, in comparison to the first, is anything of import this could be on a smaller scale.
However, that being said. Let us not forget reports stating that *something* made a 3 way trip into or out of the W477-P system. Where current speculations place the Orange Bright Star event. This coupled with the changes in sleeper behavior, the current situation regarding Dr. Tukoss, and the apparent unwillingness of the Nation to use their usual method of travel (Please refer to this post http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-report-on-nation-activity/ ) would also lend credit to the theory that this is not a natural phenomena. Rather, this was either triggered or engineered by someone, or something, with a specific purpose or even target in mind. |

Eojek
Starlight Moly
8
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Posted - 2014.11.30 17:25:37 -
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Thinking about the state of his captors; in a panic. Has anyone noticed that Sanshas Nation uses wormholes extensively.... and had been avoiding them durring a recent incursion?
Pure speculation, but given recent events, The Doctor may be being held by the Sanshas. |

Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
16
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Posted - 2014.12.01 08:30:52 -
[242] - Quote
Eojek wrote:Thinking about the state of his captors; in a panic. Has anyone noticed that Sanshas Nation uses wormholes extensively.... and had been avoiding them durring a recent incursion?
Pure speculation, but given recent events, The Doctor may be being held by the Sanshas.
Yes. Since the Oasa incidents, they tend to avoid using their WH-fu tactics.
We also detected some Sasnsha ruins on a wh preciously, along with different colelageus from A'J so there is clearly been something related with Sansha side.. But waht.. I do not know yet. But I guess we will learn it very soon, as the Bright Star Gets brighter.. |

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
671
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Posted - 2014.12.12 14:15:59 -
[243] - Quote
So how about that amazing news about the real whereabouts of Hilen Tukoss, eh ? |

Samsara Toldya
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2014.12.14 12:53:31 -
[244] - Quote
Site One contested?
There are these vessels my sensors identify as "Circadian Seekers" (seriously, who came up with that name?) inside Site One. They are approaching everything, I have seen them interacting with the Data Transfer Array, Research Project Storages, Project Archives, Security Staff, ...
Oh, yes, I know those Seekers appear everywhere we find an Unidentified Structure... but there isn't any Unidentified Structure visible in Eram.
Uploading Sensor Data |

mr ed thehouseofed
Wrought iron Industries
29293
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Posted - 2014.12.14 14:52:19 -
[245] - Quote
i recently visited site one in eram to watch sleeper activity and report back unfortunately some eager capsuleers decided to kill the sleepers before i had a chance to see what was going on.
as you can seefrom the picture i have obtained some more information from the site .
i have yet to read all the information at this stage , i suggest pilots wishing this information for their own to visit site one as soon as they can , one archive facility was empty which suggests more information is yet to come
site one
has anyone wondered where the acceleration gate is heading?
i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
49
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Posted - 2014.12.14 15:05:59 -
[246] - Quote
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:i recently visited site one in eram to watch sleeper activity and report back unfortunately some eager capsuleers decided to kill the sleepers before i had a chance to see what was going on. as you can see from the picture i have obtained some more information from the site . i have yet to read all the information at this stage , i suggest pilots wishing this information for their own to visit site one as soon as they can , one archive facility was empty which suggests more information is yet to come site onehas anyone wondered where the acceleration gate is heading? Wonder no longer! Technically, Site One is still under construction, but, infortunately, Dr. Hilen Tukoss disappeared and progress has stopped. I see you have some summaries. These are the summaries of the projects which were performed a couple of years ago by capsuleers. You can still find some information on them on GalNet. You can start right here.
Bad things should happen to bad people. We find someone not so bad, maybe he'll end up not so dead.
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Samsara Toldya
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2014.12.14 16:35:57 -
[247] - Quote
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:unfortunately some eager capsuleers decided to kill the sleepers before i had a chance to see what was going on.
Soon after your Salvage drone salvaged the four Seeker wrecks while you investigaed the archives new Seeker drones arrived at Site One and quickly warped to a customs office, maybe investigating what happened to the other drones.
I can't tell how the reinforcements entered Eram, my probes didn't spot a wormhole nor is there a visible Unidentified Structure in system.
If we want to keep the Seeker drones out of Site One we would need permanent guards. |

mr ed thehouseofed
Wrought iron Industries
29297
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Posted - 2014.12.14 23:52:24 -
[248] - Quote
thank you for the link Jaret , i will read all the information to bring me up to speed .
Samsara its the first time iv'e seen sleepers at site one , i will continue to monitor the site as often as possible , the wrecks yielded nothing more than scrap metal
i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
469
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Posted - 2014.12.15 00:46:01 -
[249] - Quote
Sleepers in a system without a US?
Well..........what the **** does that mean?
Vote Sabriz!
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Xiaohui
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.12.22 13:57:20 -
[250] - Quote
Avio Yaken wrote:Gehen Sealbreaker wrote: My money is on Sansha's Nation. We know that they have multiple fleet staging systems from which they launch the Incursions on our space, none of which was ever found. Except for the data of the probe that went through, we have no idea what these systems may be. We also know they gained over the past few years some extensive knowledge in wormhole manipulation. They could very well be occupying unreachable space.
I do not have such data at hand, but if someone could check the relay token expiry date for significant events, say, Sansha Incursions, I would be interested to see the results.
May I ask your reason to think that? Why would they capture Hilen? What purpose do they serve him?
There was a sighting of a Sansha fleet in Jove space. The Jove later sent a message that they had driven the Sansha out. Perhaps the Sansha did not get what they went there for. Perhaps that is why they need Jove DNA and tissue samples.
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Xiaohui
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.12.22 20:34:08 -
[251] - Quote
J000313 Shattered Wormhole Wolf-Rayet
No signs of life. |

Tristan Valentina
Moira. Villore Accords
6
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Posted - 2015.02.14 06:20:43 -
[252] - Quote
Th(is is the first transm)ission I hav(e been able to ma)ke in so(me time. Thi)s is Dr Hil(len Tuk)oss, broa(dcasting on lo)w band eme(rgen)cy FTL GÇô IGÇÖm uns(ure of t)he exact fr(equen)cy.
Site On(e is compromi)sed. All sta(ff inv)olved wi(th the Are)kGÇÖJal(aan Pr)oject sho(uld cons)ider it inse(cure an)d should aba(ndon an)y equi(pment the)rein, cons(ider it cont)amin(ated).
(Disre)gard the pre(viou)s commun(ication)s from wh(at ap)pears to be m(y) NeoC(om. The)ir inte(nt )is misdir(ection o)n the p(art of tho)se who ha(ve me res)trained. DT* coope(rated wit)h the(m in )all c(ases.)
I ha(ve attem)pted to ma(ke conta)ct (with Eif)yr & C(o to no av)ail, in or(der to re)lay det(ails of m)y situa(tion). It is my la(st hop)e tha(t this t)ransmissi(on will b)e pick(ed up by t)he FTL networ(k and broa)dcast t(o the perti)nent pl(aces?).
I am cu(rrently held aga)inst my wi(ll, my cap)tors are unkno(wn but from t)he few det(ails of my s)urrou(ndings I hav)e bee(n able to asc)ertain, I am bei(ng he)ld somewh(ere in Anoi)kis. The ava(ilable d)ata tha(t I could ga)ther wo(uld sugg)est some(where in clos)e pro(ximity to a Wolf-Ray)et, given luminos(ity an)d gravity signatures.
It is impe(rative t)he cap(suleer ta)skforce dedica(ted to Arek'Ja)laan contin(ue the)ir work i(n my abs)ence. With(out my pre)sence, t(he pro)ject mus(t conti)nue to adva(nce with re)cent (inform)ation (you've) received.
I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (Sleeper? Sister? Pirate? Jovian?)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.
I emp(lore [sic] you) all to continue to further the (aims of the Are)kGÇÖJalaan proj(ect and to con)tinue to wo(rk on a so)lution. (The f)ate of the (pro)ject (is now) in yo(ur ha)nds, and (if the)re is any (chance of communication/my escape?) in future, I (shal/wil)l endea(vour to d)o so.
D(--- - - - -- - )rch (--- - - )m (--- - -- -d)anger I( - - - - -------- - - -)o gr(-- -- -- --- )
*D(o not sea)rch (for )m(e as the d)anger i(s far t)o gr(eat.)* is this what we are working with for the end of the message?
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
723
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Posted - 2015.02.14 10:32:54 -
[253] - Quote
For a moment, I thought the Jovian Body Parts Collector had done something.
I think all those people I saw placing body parts in the container at Site One, might soon have cause to regret so doing.
Wahahahaaaaa !
Doctor Valerie Valate, archaeologist. Not the other Doctor Valerie Valate.
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Mystika Vendetta
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
1
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Posted - 2015.02.14 12:52:21 -
[254] - Quote
Something I learned from past experiences working on Intel is that real Intel never goes public. Never.
Jaret Victorian wrote: Edit: second guess about this "Don't try". "Don't try to search for me". That, however, negates my guess about the edge of somewhere.
Based on capsuleers fisiology and way of thinking, asking not to try to seach for someone is practically an invitation to do it... One should always be concerned, then, who has the most to loose in case of capture and loss of technology and intel. Some things just simply need to be ignored.
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
64
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Posted - 2015.02.14 16:40:29 -
[255] - Quote
Mystika Vendetta wrote:Something I learned from past experiences working on Intel is that real Intel never goes public. Never. Jaret Victorian wrote: Edit: second guess about this "Don't try". "Don't try to search for me". That, however, negates my guess about the edge of somewhere.
Based on capsuleers' fisiology and way of thinking, asking not to try to seach for someone is practically an invitation to do it... One should always be concerned, then, who has the most to loose in case of capture and loss of technology and intel. Some things just simply need to be ignored. Yeah, we are currently ignoring Mr. Tukoss' request to stop looking for him. You can check things up here if you are intrested.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Anslo
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
29414
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Posted - 2015.02.14 16:58:15 -
[256] - Quote
And soon the main act will begin.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Mystika Vendetta
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
1
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Posted - 2015.02.14 19:02:09 -
[257] - Quote
Jaret Victorian wrote:Yeah, we are currently ignoring Mr. Tukoss' request to stop looking for him.
Exactly what I was affraid yet so predictable... |
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