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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.08.28 01:51:00 -
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 Omega5677 was a friend of mine. He was my mentor. I lucked into a Megathron BPO. I decided to share all the copies I made with him 50/50. This time I needed to move the BPO so I asked him to help. Since he had a cloaked ship I thought it would be safer. He agreed. We were laffing and joking about my being scared of it being stolen as I gave him the BPO. Moments later, he quit tlaking to me. I sent him an evemail to see what happened... only to find he had blocked all corporate mail. He took the BPO and ran. Where is the honor?
If you see a BPO for a megathron ME54 PE8... It was mine and was stolen. I know theres nothing that can be done... Just thought Id vent my sadness. Not only did I lose a BPO, but I lost a friend.
Jastor Morbix
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Porter Hadlend
Gallente
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 02:02:00 -
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If you've got the money.. you could hire some expensive friends to try and convince him to return it... I wouldn't hold my breath though.
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.08.28 02:11:00 -
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I could, But it wouldnt get me anywhere. He has a large corp, I have 3 members. He was my mentor, hes more skilled than me. He was a friend. The BPO is only part of it. I lost a "friend". I cant get that back.
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BabeLove
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Posted - 2006.08.28 02:16:00 -
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With friends like this, who needs enemies? 
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Hassiana
Gallente
Paralex Research
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Posted - 2006.08.28 02:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Jastor Morbix
I could, But it wouldnt get me anywhere. He has a large corp, I have 3 members. He was my mentor, hes more skilled than me. He was a friend. The BPO is only part of it. I lost a "friend". I cant get that back.
in all honesty your better off, the guys is an ass and prolly just as well you found out sooner. real shame about the bpo, but you said you got lucky with it? so no real loss i hope
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.08.28 03:14:00 -
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Just the loss of a friend....
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Sovereign533
Caldari
133rd Ghost Wing
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.28 03:25:00 -
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well... hope you would get your bp back...
and lesson learned, right? :)
i never lend expensive bpo's to anybody (exept my friend next door that is...)
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.08.28 03:40:00 -
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Definately....
Talked to his ceo tonight too.
Hopefully we can work it out.
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Felcas
Minmatar
Galactic Industries Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 03:48:00 -
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Jastor,
I am solidare to you (dont know if I wrote it right sorry).
But I never ever handle anything important or expensive in EVE or in RL to anyone ESPECIALLY for a friend, unless I can accept the fact that I can loose it.
Situations like this happens a lot and sure the worst part is to loose a friend and not a BPO.
I dont worry very much about the item but much more about the friendship, sometimes, there is some circunstances that even if your friend is not really guilty you can start questioning yourself about how much you can trust him and this is the perfect formula to loose a friend cause friendship is all about trust.
What if he told you he got destroyed even with his cover ops ship and lost the BPO? And even if you belived on him 2 weeks later it comes to your knowledge that he got a BPO? How would you face that?
I really hope you get back you BPO this is the minimum you can get for the pain.
the rest, unfortunatelly only time will heal and even then sometimes it wont heal forever.
But there is still good people in EVE, people who are worth of being your friend, who are worth your trust.
Wish you the best.
Felcas
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Ruthless 1
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Posted - 2006.08.28 07:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ruthless 1 on 28/08/2006 07:46:58
Lucked into a megathron BPO?
I just happen to have a friend that accidently sold his Megathron BPO, ME:54 PE:8, as a copy on escrow.
My guess is your the one that claimed the escrow and kept the print. Now your gunna slander other people on the forums for stealing the print that you got for free? Please.
Dont talk about the honor of other people when you dont have any yourself. You dont deserve to get that back.
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.08.28 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ruthless 1
Edited by: Ruthless 1 on 28/08/2006 07:46:58
Lucked into a megathron BPO?
I just happen to have a friend that accidently sold his Megathron BPO, ME:54 PE:8, as a copy on escrow.
My guess is your the one that claimed the escrow and kept the print. Now your gunna slander other people on the forums for stealing the print that you got for free? Please.
Dont talk about the honor of other people when you dont have any yourself. You dont deserve to get that back.
1st off, I waited a week before doing anything with the BPO for the person I bought it from to contact me and see if he/she wanted it back. I had already discussed with my friend and my ceo about giving it back to whoever it was. My friend was not happy with my choice to give it back if contacted.
2nd of all, Slander is spoken word that tends to damage another's reputation. I think u meant libel, But either way, what I said had to be false. My friend DID take it from me and not return it.
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Adoro
Reunited
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Posted - 2006.08.28 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jastor Morbix
Originally by: Ruthless 1
Edited by: Ruthless 1 on 28/08/2006 07:46:58
Lucked into a megathron BPO?
I just happen to have a friend that accidently sold his Megathron BPO, ME:54 PE:8, as a copy on escrow.
My guess is your the one that claimed the escrow and kept the print. Now your gunna slander other people on the forums for stealing the print that you got for free? Please.
Dont talk about the honor of other people when you dont have any yourself. You dont deserve to get that back.
1st off, I waited a week before doing anything with the BPO for the person I bought it from to contact me and see if he/she wanted it back. I had already discussed with my friend and my ceo about giving it back to whoever it was. My friend was not happy with my choice to give it back if contacted.
2nd of all, Slander is spoken word that tends to damage another's reputation. I think u meant libel, But either way, what I said had to be false. My friend DID take it from me and not return it.
So you didnt buy the BPO on a fair deal in the first place anyways?
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Tirg
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.08.28 13:26:00 -
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When you buy something from escrow, it only shows as escrow claimed, not who did the claiming.
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Ruthless 1
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Posted - 2006.08.28 16:27:00 -
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We were never able to see who bought the BPO, just that it was claimed 6 minuted after it was placed on escrow. Even after weeks of petitions, CCP would not let us know who claimed it.
This was a very close friend of mine, and coincidentally is leaving the game over this, as it took him more time to research the print then you have been playing the game, Jastor.
I still have 1-run copies if this print if you need any proof of my legitamacy.
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.08.28 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ruthless 1
We were never able to see who bought the BPO, just that it was claimed 6 minuted after it was placed on escrow. Even after weeks of petitions, CCP would not let us know who claimed it.
This was a very close friend of mine, and coincidentally is leaving the game over this, as it took him more time to research the print then you have been playing the game, Jastor.
I still have 1-run copies if this print if you need any proof of my legitamacy.
Your friend eve-mailed me and I have replied. I didnt know u couldnt tell who bought it. IF I get it back, he and I will work it out fairly. If I don't get it back, Ill give him the "friends" name and corp and they can work it out. but at this point, I still dont have it :-(
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.08.28 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tirg
When you buy something from escrow, it only shows as escrow claimed, not who did the claiming.
I didnt know that. As u can see, Im not a long time player and believe it or not, that was my 1st purchase in escrow.
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Thecle Vifargent
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.29 04:47:00 -
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Getting something into escrow because people made a mistake isn't a grief. People should pay more attention in what they do. If not, they desserve the loss.
But posters are right when they say that coming on the board wont help about your bpo. You have learnt something about how volatile is Mmo friendship.
(btw i have "ingame friends" to whome i borrowed my rattlesnake fully fitted with gist-xtype-xlarge sb and they returned it with no problem, its only a matter of choice.)
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Shenala Grenutra
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.29 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Shenala Grenutra on 29/08/2006 11:05:58
Originally by: Ruthless 1
Edited by: Ruthless 1 on 28/08/2006 07:46:58
Lucked into a megathron BPO?
I just happen to have a friend that accidently sold his Megathron BPO, ME:54 PE:8, as a copy on escrow.
My guess is your the one that claimed the escrow and kept the print. Now your gunna slander other people on the forums for stealing the print that you got for free? Please.
Dont talk about the honor of other people when you dont have any yourself. You dont deserve to get that back.
Yes, this would be luck. If it was that important to him, he shouldn't have had the BPO in the same stack as all the BPCs. That's like flying through 0.0 with no WCS on AP with no insurance... stupid. AND, if he's going to quit over something as trivial as that, well, TFB. Sounds like he's a whiner anyways.
Jastor has nothing to be ashamed of except choosing a poor mentor, which, might I add, I would stop refering to him as... this could lead us to believe that you too are a thief.
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.09.01 03:13:00 -
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After talking to him till my fingers hurt, begging, ect... I even tried to bribe him into giving it back... Nothing is working :-/ He says since I talked to his CEO, his reputation with the corp is tainted. So he feels justified in keeping the BPO.
Im open for suggeestions on how to convince him to give it back, con him out of it, anything you can come up with that you REALLY think will work, not just tick him off more.
Getting it back is the goal, not punishment. I know I can offer a bounty, but I think thats just going to make him more angry, not really get it back.
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.09.01 03:30:00 -
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PS: Thanks to Shenala Grenutra and Thecle Vifargent for defending my purchase. I always have felt a bit guilty about it, but Id like to know what player out there would see a mistake like that and NOT grab it? Im sure it was a matter of seconds till someone else bought it. Chances are they wouldnt even consider dealing with the previous owner either.
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bogir
War And Peace Construction
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Posted - 2006.09.01 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ruthless 1
We were never able to see who bought the BPO, just that it was claimed 6 minuted after it was placed on escrow. Even after weeks of petitions, CCP would not let us know who claimed it.
This was a very close friend of mine, and coincidentally is leaving the game over this, as it took him more time to research the print then you have been playing the game, Jastor.
I still have 1-run copies if this print if you need any proof of my legitamacy.
Why leave --- thats is why you look Copys over before putting em on escrow. it is his own fauild for not checking what items he puts on escrow.
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DrakeStone
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.01 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: DrakeStone on 01/09/2006 14:13:58
The bottom line, Jastor, is that the previous owner before you made a MISTAKE putting it on escrow and you benefited. You have no apparent remorse for your "luck."
Now, you come along and make a MISTAKE in who you trust. The person benefiting has no apparent remorse for his "luck."
I am not judging you, but we call that Karma.
You are no more deserving of that then the person you obtained it from. You both capitalized on someone's error in judgement.
Accept this. Believe in Karma, or don't. But move on.
Finally, let's say you had a piece of art that you thought was original and worth a million dollars but then later found it to be a fake and worth $8.63. Would you say you lost a million dollars? No, ofcourse not, because you never had a million dollars or what you thought you had.
This person was not your "friend" and was really only worth $8.63 to you.
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.09.01 21:10:00 -
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I wouldnt say I had no remorse. If I didn't, I would have told the former owner to get lost. I just think that anyone else seeing the mistake would have bought it too. I don't necessarily believe in karma, but I agree with u about how its turned out...
The whole $8.63 thing is a nice way of putting it too lol.
I will move on... eventually. Its just sad... I think there could have been enough profit in that BPO for 3 of us to be happy. Instead, one is getting all the profit but losing his reputation, honor and maybe his corp in the deal.
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Terra Phrozen
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Posted - 2006.09.02 08:46:00 -
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How much ISK is saved per manufacturing job on a Mega thanks to ME:54 when compared to say... oh, 19 ME?
And... how much money could have been gained using that BPO during the time it took to gain those extra 35 ME levels? (How much time was it, anyway? 4 days per level, or longer?)
Just curious. I'm trying to take what I can from this thread and to be honest the info is pretty sparse. It's already been hammered into me "trust no one" - and now this thread doesn't even have a name of a person for me to avoid  let's stop bashing eachother and actually try some market discussion please?
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Mr Ratty
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.09.02 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Ratty on 02/09/2006 23:11:54
It would take a little over 15 weeks to go from me 19 to 54
isk saving of a me 54 over a me 19 is just over 250k per build (depending on mineral prices)
TBH me over 10 for most things is a waste of time. I assume you have a me19 megat bpo? well your saving a whole 340k isk per ship over a me10 copy, still thats only a month of builds down the drain whilst it was me'd.
the stupid thing is, you can sell bpc of your me19 for a lot more than the me10 bpc, way more than the 340k it would save you LOL
If your gonna build from a bpo, me10 is fine for most.
If your gonna sell bpc from your bpo, me<stupidly high number> will get you the most isk.
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Yipeekahyay
Gallente
TribalWar Inc
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: DrakeStone
Edited by: DrakeStone on 01/09/2006 14:15:55
The bottom line, Jastor, is that the previous owner before you made a MISTAKE putting it on escrow and you benefited. You have no apparent remorse for your "luck." and perhaps you shouldn't or perhaps you should - this is your call.
Now, you come along and make a MISTAKE in who you trust. The person benefiting has no apparent remorse for his "luck."
I am not judging you, but we call that Karma.
You are no more deserving of that then the person you obtained it from. You both capitalized on someone's error in judgement.
Accept this. Believe in Karma, or don't. But move on.
Finally, let's say you had a piece of art that you thought was original and worth a million dollars but then later found it to be a fake and worth $8.63. Would you say you lost a million dollars? No, ofcourse not, because you never had a million dollars or what you thought you had.
This person was not your "friend" and was really only worth $8.63 to you.
I honestly don't understand your logic. On one hand, we have a person that benefitted from someone's oversight/stupidity/mistake. There was no interaction between the OP and the original BPO owner. The other was basically theft. The OP and his "friend" had an agreement (or verbal contract, if you will). Regardless if you think the OP was naive in trusting an internet friend of not, we are discussing apples and oranges. The only thing left to do, I suppose, is to make fruit salad.
I feel sorry for the guy that escrowed the BPO, but I can't fault the OP for keeping it.
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Rev Darkwing
Amesha Spentaz
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.03 07:33:00 -
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So, who was this "friend".. the least you can do is let the community know who this person is. Who knows.. someone may kill him and let you know about it.. and you might save someone the heartache you are feeling.
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Kye Kenshin
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.03 18:27:00 -
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Sounds like the BPO is cursed...
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.09.04 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: Jastor Morbix on 04/09/2006 01:44:32
Originally by: Rev Darkwing
So, who was this "friend".. the least you can do is let the community know who this person is. Who knows.. someone may kill him and let you know about it.. and you might save someone the heartache you are feeling.
I agree, I just wanted to give him every opportunity to return it. If he was just trying to teach me a lesson about jumping to conclusions or something, I didnt want to ruin his reputation.
Omega5677 is the BPO theif.
His Corp CTEC was not involved in the theft, promised they would not buy the BPO, and appeared to do everything they could to help me get it back. The CEO 3names said he would be dumped from the corp "faster than $#!7 thru a goose" if he didnt return the BPO. Although they are a democracy and it is up for a vote.
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Jastor Morbix
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Posted - 2006.09.04 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kye Kenshin
Sounds like the BPO is cursed...
LoL, You arent the 1st to tell me that.
I agree. I can only hope it brings him bad luck too.
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