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Grim Starwind
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Posted - 2006.08.28 06:33:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Starwind on 28/08/2006 06:33:29 Okay, so here's the story. I'm in low sec.. I undock in my ferox. I think to myself "hmmm, a few people in local I wonder if anyone is over at this belt to ransom."
And sure enough.. while warping I scan and see a hawk there and think nice nice, ransom time! So I get ready for the fight just as I warp in to the belt the guy is killing 2 frigate NPC's. and he's 30km out. I start the afterburner up and start my approach, hoping this guy doesn't warp out before 20km and I can scramble his ass. so I get to about 25km and start my lock and scramble at the 20km.. even closer yet, I nos and web him and kill his shields and armour and get my drones to go kill the lil rats he is shooting (you know.. being the nice guy I am and all...). So then I open convo and say "14mil or the ship goes pop.. send within 10seconds." So I watch my wallet and he goes.. "hmmm, can't afford it" So I pop his ass then warp off.. Now at this point I'm thinking, hmm.. I only got the security hit for the agro. and I noticed him become flagged to me while I was just holding him down and in convo.
Then it hits me! HEY! Why hasn't he got kill rights on me?! why don't I have the .2 security hit?! but get the agro and the npc security change. Hold the phone.... He stole from the can that belonged to the rat I shot lol.
So I get his t2 loot... and don't have the security hit or the killrights on me.
YARRR! 
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Azmura
Minmatar The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.28 08:09:00 -
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You were afriad of the sec drop from a ship aggression? That's not a big drop compared to a pod...funny story though.
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Grim Starwind
Devils collective
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Posted - 2006.08.28 08:14:00 -
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nope, i wasn't worried about a security drop at all. I just wondered why I didn't get one after the ship exploded. 
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Azmura
Minmatar The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.28 08:19:00 -
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Question though, if you scramed and webbed him 20km out, how did he steal from a can that your drones didn't kill until he was at armor? Did you send your drones kill the rats before you aggrod?
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Grim Starwind
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Posted - 2006.08.28 08:26:00 -
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well, I got the security hit for agroing against him which was my initial scrambling him at 20km. Then I moved in and once at 10-11km I started the nos and web. Somewhere between the scrambling etc.. I had sent my drones to kill a frig that was like 2km from him. So what had happend was.. my drones had kill the frigs before I had killed him. and I recalled my drones and while I was trying to ransom him, he had picked loot out of the can from the frig my drones killed. Meaning he was then flagged to me. So I killed him without having to worry about a further sec hit for the ship destruction. 
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Azmura
Minmatar The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.28 08:37:00 -
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Ah, ok...it's 3:30 in the morning and I forgot there's 3 chances of lowering your sec status in a encounter. Aggro, Ship Destruction, and Pod Kill.
Anyway, I'll share funny story. I was in my Wolf in a random .4 system somewhere in the Heim region. I head to the center of the system that was in range of about 90% of the belts and planets and whatnot and hit my scanner. What do I see? A Caracal. Now at that time, I just barely entered the world of surprise pvp, so my expierence with pvp was only gained from mission running. So I narrowed him down and found him ratting in a belt. I was feeling lucky at the time and warped in at 60. Lo and behold I see him and he sees me, so he warps off towards a gate. I was only -0.1 then, so being by the gate, I felt safe.(Knowing what I know now, that's a bad thought to have)
Anyway I drop out of warp and lock onto him. Who knows, maybe he'll shoot at me? Well he auto-locks me and I suddenly find myself being hit with missiles. He appearently had his guns on stand-by when I locked him...who would have guessed?
Anyway, about 3 seconds later the sentries tear him a new one and I loot from his can with his pod watching. He yelled at me in local for expoliting a game bug or something like that...I wasn't paying attention cause I was rolling on the floor, dieing from laughter.
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Grim Starwind
Devils collective
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Posted - 2006.08.28 08:39:00 -
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hehe, that is a good one too. Ack, some people eh? 
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babylonstew
Caldari Caldari Scouting and Intel Group
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Posted - 2006.08.28 10:47:00 -
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im pretty sure he didnt get kill rights becos he shot back
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Larkonis Trassler
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Posted - 2006.08.28 11:02:00 -
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If he fired back at you you wouldn't get kill rights or the sec drop for killing the ship... Am I rite?
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babylonstew
Caldari Caldari Scouting and Intel Group
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Posted - 2006.08.28 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Larkonis Trassler If he fired back at you you wouldn't get kill rights or the sec drop for killing the ship... Am I rite?
thats how i understand it yes. couple of times i have shot people in low sec, whenever they return fire they dont get kill rights and i dot take a big sec hit
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Eagle32
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Posted - 2006.08.28 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: Eagle32 on 28/08/2006 19:46:27
Originally by: Larkonis Trassler If he fired back at you you wouldn't get kill rights or the sec drop for killing the ship... Am I rite?
Yes, yes you are.
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Grim Starwind
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Posted - 2006.08.28 21:18:00 -
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In that case.. that's what happened then. Because the guy shot me with one missile and said oh well. lol
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