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Roxanna Kell
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.28 22:39:00 -
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do you really want voice built in eve?
if yes, how about the lag!
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Idaeus
Gallente
Crimson Wings Squadron
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Posted - 2006.08.28 22:42:00 -
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1. Yes.
2. Vivox will be handling the server load for voice comms. Any resulting lag should be negligable.
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Gungankllr
Caldari
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.28 22:43:00 -
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It isn't hosted on the Eve servers, It's hosted by Vivox.
Considering you have to pay for it, it isn't mandatory, and as such, not everyone in the game will be using it.
Last but not least, It uses about the same amount of bandwidth as Ventrillo or Teamspeak, which is almost nothing.
And most everyone uses some sort of voice communication already, it won't change much.
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Maya Rkell
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.28 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 28/08/2006 22:44:16
The UI support is going to add data and thus lag. How much? We'll see.
But I bet TS3 is going to be more useful.
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bluecheast
Four Rings
Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.28 22:49:00 -
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Yes it sounds good but only if a corp/alliance can activate it for all its members and not costing too much
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Nir
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Posted - 2006.08.28 22:52:00 -
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I won't be using it and if I had a Ventrillo server running right now I would not give it up for the new service CCP are providing.
Why? Simply because Vent/TS can be used for *all* games, not just EVE. Often gaming outfits will have servers with rooms for multiple games. Another benefit of 3rd party software is that you don't have to be ingame in order to speak to one and other.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.08.28 22:57:00 -
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If EVE is smart they will let the voice chat be used by paying gamers in other games too.
Im all for increased functionality in voice chat over team speak. But if Im paying for it I think Ill pay for a TS server where I can play other games too.
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Itaro Flagg
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2006.08.29 00:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Ghoest
If EVE is smart they will let the voice chat be used by paying gamers in other games too.
Im all for increased functionality in voice chat over team speak. But if Im paying for it I think Ill pay for a TS server where I can play other games too.
The devs have also talked about an "Eve Lite" client, which Im betting will have voice support--without having to log fully into the game. So, there might be some support for using the voice chat externally as well.
Personally, my hopes are set quite high for this :) I can't wait.
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evistin
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Posted - 2006.08.29 01:09:00 -
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My Main hope, is that the system will pass the cost around. Instead of $50 a month from 1 person, it can be $1 or $2 from each person.
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Ozmodan
Minmatar
Storm Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.29 01:15:00 -
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CCP is going about this entirely the wrong way. If they want to add it to the game it is either all or nothing. Few people are going to pay an additional dollar, when free solutions like TS exist out there.
I think their marketing department is a bit out of touch with things.
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Yellowan
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2006.08.29 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ozmodan
CCP is going about this entirely the wrong way. If they want to add it to the game it is either all or nothing. Few people are going to pay an additional dollar, when free solutions like TS exist out there.
I think their marketing department is a bit out of touch with things.
I concur. Should just be part of the game, period.
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Merciless1
42nd Armored
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Posted - 2006.08.29 04:15:00 -
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The only way that I would consider paying for this is if I could speak to other player in space, i.e. I want to ransom a victim and instead of opening a chat window i can speak to them directly. That would take ransoming to a new level IMO. |
elliona
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Posted - 2006.08.29 04:33:00 -
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yeah. the pieces of crap that run the game would explode if you tried implementing that, look at what they do with just normal loads. freaking outmoded junk thats what it is.
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Julia Reave
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Posted - 2006.08.29 07:19:00 -
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As I said earlier, the bad part about it is
a) it being optional (dividing the playerbase in people who have a game-feature and people who don't)
b) it being charged for (free expansions anyone?)
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doyoulikemytightsweater
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Posted - 2006.08.29 08:11:00 -
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I ll be paying for it.
Why ?
Because CCP will sure as gank have to make it safe to use and reliable too or it will fail.
To casual connect to a corpmate or a random stranger of the Eve universe to talk actual voice will rock. You cannot do this without too much fumble and danger now.
If you d do that now you d be prone to getting virii, hacks or whatnot.
A unified Eve voice service will prevent all that.
Doing the voice connect using a neutral third party is the perfect solution and I hope CCP are brave enough to offer it.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.08.29 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Merciless1
The only way that I would consider paying for this is if I could speak to other player in space, i.e. I want to ransom a victim and instead of opening a chat window i can speak to them directly. That would take ransoming to a new level IMO.
You want them to yell on you?
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Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.29 10:19:00 -
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if there will be open channels too i will.... oh nm that would be utter chaos.
would be interesting to know how creat/join options work though. online auctions anyone?
but yeah if you could subscribe once and use it for all your accounts i'm willing to do it.
Originally by: George Petsch
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Michiyo Daishi
Royal Knights of Khanid
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Posted - 2006.08.29 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: Michiyo Daishi on 29/08/2006 10:42:31
lovely how an ISP acts all weird and makes you look like you doubleposted -_-
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Michiyo Daishi
Royal Knights of Khanid
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Posted - 2006.08.29 10:41:00 -
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what about those who cant/dont want to use voice comms? you're going to charge them the extra buck too?
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Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.29 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Michiyo Daishi
what about those who cant/dont want to use voice comms? you're going to charge them the extra buck too?
afaik it's not mandatory but your choice if you want the extra service or not.
Originally by: George Petsch
Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.29 10:47:00 -
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It will integrate into the client in a real cool way. I think everybody will love it once we see it. You can clearly see what player are talking, you can mute everybody but the team leader and other good stuff. Voice quality will be superior to free services.
Personally i think it will rock, and we'll soon see since its supposed to show up in Kali 1 as I understand it.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.29 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: doyoulikemytightsweater
If you d do that now you d be prone to getting virii, hacks or whatnot.
TS put hax on my computer! 
Anyway, I would like to be able to talk to random people without worrying about server IPs and alt-tabbing and such. Like Local, only with voice. Now I doubt I'd ever actually do it, but Eve is all about being able to do what you want, not necessarily doing it.
And while for most people TS and such will remain the standard for general use due to it not relying on the game, if it is designed well the integrated software will be far more useful for fleets, which is probably where it will be used most. IMHO.
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Buxaroo
Black Dwarf
Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.08.29 11:01:00 -
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I don't understand why there is a need for a voice com in the game. Everybody and their dog has a TS or Vent server rofl.
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Xendie
Hunter Killers
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Posted - 2006.08.29 11:01:00 -
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wouldnt it be smarter for CCP to add $1 to the account cost and activate it for all then?
until then i dont think that it will be so popular with half corp/alliance using it and other half will not.
especially with good alternatives that doesnt cost much TS/Ventrilo
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.29 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
wouldnt it be smarter for CCP to add $1 to the account cost and activate it for all then?
There was tons of threads suggesting this when ccp announced the idea, but they feel that voice is not essential to the game and should be seen as something extra. So therefore it makes sense to pay extra for it.
Personally, I would have prefered it included in the monthly fee, but we'll see... if its crap, at least people can save a few cents by not subscribing to it. :)
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente
IMPERIAL SENATE
Pure.
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Posted - 2006.08.29 11:06:00 -
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My PC, while meaty, overheats when I have the sound on in eve... so I certainly won't be getting it.
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Zeveron
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.29 11:11:00 -
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Everybody seems to miss 1 point.
TS and Ventrilo r not free.
Some1 is paying for them, well maybe not you but some1.
I have a dedicated server, where I am hosting a ts srv for my corp.
My corp m8s dont pay anything, but I do.
So ts and vetrilo r not free.
As far as my personal opinion, I like the intergraded voice com. feature.
I hate alt-tabing to c who speaks atm, how many r in the channel, if some1 has an open mic, if i am droped etc.
I would like a mute all feature though :-)
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Destiny Calling
Amarr
The Watchers' Council
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Posted - 2006.08.29 11:44:00 -
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Im in favour of it, however how will it work, I have two eve accounts will i have to pay for this twice?
I appreciate this may have been covered, but allt eh experts are right here.
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Fiona Farrow
Cereal Killerz
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.29 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zeveron
Everybody seems to miss 1 point.
TS and Ventrilo r not free.
Some1 is paying for them, well maybe not you but some1.
I have a dedicated server, where I am hosting a ts srv for my corp.
My corp m8s dont pay anything, but I do.
So ts and vetrilo r not free.
Well thats not really TS/ventrilos fault, is it? 1$ per account would make it 100$ for a 100 member corp. Does hosting TS/vent cost as much? The rest is just a matter of distributing the costs properly...
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As far as my personal opinion, I like the intergraded voice com. feature.
I hate alt-tabing to c who speaks atm, how many r in the channel, if some1 has an open mic, if i am droped etc.
TS + tsoverlay give you most of this currently for instance....
Not to say I am entirely against this new feature, I just fail to see what it brings to the table thats not already there currently. But hopefully there's something more to this than has been mentioned, because otherwise it sounds like a waste of money and resources, and I'm not sure that's what CCP has in mind.
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LUKKAT
Gallente
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.29 12:43:00 -
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what happens when the server dies and everyone is waiting to log in with no voice coms
least now we can log a scout on first and not be at the mercy of the 50 man blob we just jumped into when the node dies
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