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Xaruna Kendit Klar Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.11.16 18:45:19 - [1] - Quote As the title suggests, this is what I want to do. What's the best starter (Gallente), ship should I be going for and how should I fit it? Are there any corps out there that like to take complete new players on to teach the fine art of PvP?
Plato Forko Forko Nanorobotics 101	Posted - 2014.11.16 19:22:14 - [2] - Quote pyfa/EFT is the best way to get a feel for what any given hull is capable of with any fit. Learn to use all the available in-game information. corpmates can fill you in on more esoteric ** like the end result of stacking penalties but basic survival stuff is just in how you independently learn to set up and use your overview, scanner, notifications box, local intel, F10 and third-party resources. There's nothin' like skating away from a fight with the hull on fire, some mods burned out and a cargohold full of loot. See my terribad blog** for stories.
themaker1971 Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2014.11.16 20:58:26 - [3] - Quote Join Rvb. We done hold your hand like eve uni (no disrespect there). We do offer advice and a target rich environment. Come and try. If you dont like it then your welcome to come and go as you please. Www.rvbeve.com
Ovv Topik Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 687	Posted - 2014.11.16 21:43:35 - [4] - Quote The other direction to go in is to join any of the 4 FW militias. Most of the PvP is in T1 Frigs, and the isk is excellent. The Frig PvP fitting Bible: http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html "Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7
Noxisia Arkana Deadspace Knights Galactic Skyfleet Empire 403	Posted - 2014.11.16 23:43:18 - [5] - Quote Not to be flippant or anything. But flagging criminal at a trade hub with a new character in a t1 frig will net you some action. It might not be fun, but it's doable. Stuff: 1. You could make a 10-15 day train on an alt, and throw him in red vs blue - to get some experience flying a kiting atron, and some experience in fleet fights. 2. Brave newbies. They take people and fight. 3. There's some war-dec training corps (check crime and punishment). It that turns out to be your thing. You could look at 'feyds (forget his last name)' blog - and do some ninja salvaging and then bait mission runners in an incursis. 4. Code, or other knock off corps: train an alt for a gank catalyst and go after miners... personally seems kind of boring. You'll learn concord mechanics pretty quick though (response times, pulling concord off gates, etc.). 5. *As mentioned above, join the default militia corps and start chatting in militia chat, find some people to fly with (or go it solo) and head into lowsec. Make some isk running plexes, fit more t1 frigs. Rinse repeat. After people get done yelling 'Spy' you'll get a go at decent conversation. 6. Start training some scanning skills and poke around in wormholes or chat up some wormhole corps. There are some pretty pvp centric corps. Or some corps that stage out of a wh with a lowsec/nullsec static. (not quick so maybe not a good call). 7. Flag criminal anywhere, and let someone see you. There are a lot of corps (small, big, medium) where you can figure some stuff out and get guidance. In short, you'll find a lot of ways to fight - the tough part will be finding a fight you can win (knowing you can win the fight) and having patience. Seriously, Eve's a game you can log into and not accomplish anything in 8 hours and be busy the whole time.
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 744	Posted - 2014.11.17 00:21:31 - [6] - Quote CODE. & a Cat. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
Anal Canal The Conference Elite CODE. 757	Posted - 2014.11.17 00:21:31 - [7] - Quote CODE. & a Cat. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 The Conference Elite CODE. 759	Posted - 2014.11.17 00:21:31 - [8] - Quote CODE. & a Cat. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
ggodhsup internet spaceship relocation movement 14	Posted - 2014.11.17 02:25:49 - [9] - Quote when i started pvp, i just jumped into a low-sec system and went for it....it helped alot....as now i have very little fear of low-sec and you get tons of fights. now, with a 2006 toon, most wont engage unless they are well fortified. either way always update your clone!....it is very important....sp loss is no fun.....ive experienced first hand. its easy to find pvp, you just have to look for it. just dont fly anything you cant afford to lose....or be like me and fly things you cant and enjoy the rush.
Domino Vyse Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 44	Posted - 2014.11.17 08:59:08 - [10] - Quote Fit out 50 Atrons, go to FW space and hang out in the complexes. When they have all blown up, do it again.
Dreaded Vengance CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 36	Posted - 2014.11.17 13:54:25 - [11] - Quote Domino Vyse wrote: Fit out 50 Atrons, go to FW space and hang out in the complexes. When they have all blown up, do it again. This, but join FW so you can earn LP whilst you look for fights.
London James Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.11.17 18:09:42 - [12] - Quote Domino Vyse wrote: Fit out 50 Atrons, go to FW space and hang out in the complexes. When they have all blown up, do it again. I agree with this, though I wouldn't fit all 50 atrons the same way. Fit for different situations: Fit a kitey rail, fit some ewar, fit melt your face blasters. Find your niche and go to town! The concept is to become comfortable with what you're flying; there are many different techniques out there, finding your own will be the fast track to success, which is having FUN with this game.
Thanatos Marathon Phoibe Enterprises 350	Posted - 2014.11.17 18:30:07 - [13] - Quote I used to recommend joining a FW corp that was decent at PVP, but after looking at the options for fixing my faction standings since retiring from FW, I no longer do.
Noir Ruda Rough Chillbar Autopilot-Engaged 8	Posted - 2014.11.18 07:54:23 - [14] - Quote London James wrote: Domino Vyse wrote: Fit out 50 Atrons, go to FW space and hang out in the complexes. When they have all blown up, do it again. I agree with this, though I wouldn't fit all 50 atrons the same way. Fit for different situations: Fit a kitey rail, fit some ewar, fit melt your face blasters. Find your niche and go to town! The concept is to become comfortable with what you're flying; there are many different techniques out there, finding your own will be the fast track to success, which is having FUN with this game. I agree with this there is no better way to learn pvp than to do it yourself. And you don't need to join FW to fight in the complexes. The more u lose the more u learn. But never say its your sp that got you killed always try to search for your pilot errors and go convo the guy who killed you most player give you an advice what could have done better. Also never be afraid of doin PvP loosing ships is part of the game. The best time to start PvP is now regardless of expierence and skillpoints. Some basic training from more expierenced players can be helpful though. Basics you should read up and train in frig-fights and Faction-Warfare complexes: - Setting up your Overview - How to D-Scan - Transversal - A good UI setup - Having Local and D-Scan always in your view - Keyboard shortcuts help a lot - Basic understanding how complexes work. - Don't fight the Worm (its a ship :))
Arla Sarain 120	Posted - 2014.11.18 08:06:11 - [15] - Quote FW space is a tad quiet. You'll have more luck finding a fight against the local pirates. RvB is better IMO, if you just want to find a fight. Problem is FW makes money and RvB doesn't. There are plenty more differences. Prior to anything you need to establish a place of deployment. If you join Caldari avoid Tama gate and Nourv. If you join Gallente I heard you should avoid Villore. The most convenient lowsec entries are typically the worst. Find a way to ship those 50 atrons as close to the fight as possible. Getting a new ship within the 60s of you dying is gonna save you a lot of frustration. People are typically very risk averse because PvP in EVE involves "getting a ship, flying 10jumps out, dying with 60 seconds and then going 10jumps back to get a new ship". It's a sandbox game at its core and asset logistics are not trivial.
Lloyd Roses Blue-Fire 758	Posted - 2014.11.18 09:55:30 - [16] - Quote Ya, best way would be to get a dozen cheap ships to a lowsec border next to a warzone and then just dive in. If you want pvp-experience, you should also skip joining FW for now so you can fight against both sides. I'd suggest cheap ships, like meta-fitted tristans or thrashers. Get 10 os those and you still only spent 30mil :D "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
ggodhsup internet spaceship relocation movement 15	Posted - 2014.11.18 10:18:42 - [17] - Quote Lloyd Roses wrote: Ya, best way would be to get a dozen cheap ships to a lowsec border next to a warzone and then just dive in. If you want pvp-experience, you should also skip joining FW for now so you can fight against both sides. I'd suggest cheap ships, like meta-fitted tristans or thrashers. Get 10 os those and you still only spent 30mil :D ^^ this....tristans and if you arent drone-centric yet, incursus', i would fit with blasters....regular tackle in mids....and an aar armor tank for the lows. doubling the targets is definetly going to get you more fights...more fights....more figuring things out. i will say though that i havent had first hand experience but some fly FW stabbed, so dont be surprised to see people warp out if the fight looks like it isnt going their way. the quickest path is "set destination" to the nearest low-sec system and start hunting....just stay away from gates and stations.....the guns will eat you for breakfast. always update your clone.
Xaruna Kendit Klar Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.11.18 12:12:14 - [18] - Quote Ok, so plenty of options for me to consider. I think what I'll do is train up my PvP skills, earn some ISK doing some missions and find a low sec to jump in and at least try to get myself some kills. I know I'll fail miserably but at least I'll have some fun in doing it.
Domino Vyse Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 47	Posted - 2014.11.18 13:42:32 - [19] - Quote Xaruna Kendit Klar wrote: Ok, so plenty of options for me to consider. I think what I'll do is train up my PvP skills, earn some ISK doing some missions and find a low sec to jump in and at least try to get myself some kills. I know I'll fail miserably but at least I'll have some fun in doing it. Dont be afraid to ask your assailants for tips after each fight
Erehwon Rorschach Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 108	Posted - 2014.11.18 14:34:47 - [20] - Quote The path of most resistance will guide you. Because your mum just couldn't say no.
Domino Vyse Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 47	Posted - 2014.11.18 19:52:48 - [21] - Quote Erehwon Rorschach wrote: The path of most resistance will guide you. Truth
Mephiztopheleze Republic University Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2014.11.19 04:52:07 - [22] - Quote Xaruna Kendit Klar wrote: As the title suggests, this is what I want to do. What's the best starter (Gallente), ship should I be going for and how should I fit it? Are there any corps out there that like to take complete new players on to teach the fine art of PvP? my $0.02: EVE PvP: For NEWBIES! I can wholeheartedly recommend RvB as a great place for newbie PvP. You will die, a lot. You will get farmed by 100m SP 'toons, a lot. You will litter Otela/Josameto/Liekuri/Poinen with enough Atron wrecks to build a dread (hell, I sure did). You will also learn, a lot. You will make many, many friends. You will have plenty of opportunity to splat others. You will have the opportunity to try your hand at being an FC and no-one will care or think less of you after you whelp the entire fleet. RvB is pretty easy, although ISK making opportunities are limited and usually revolve around surviving the fight and looting the field. Log in, purchase a 5-pack of fitted Atrons via corp contract (~7m ISK iirc?) and just go nuts. That's some quality entertainment right there. Resident Newbie at: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
Luwc Confederation of Independent Contractors Swamphole 310	Posted - 2014.11.19 09:04:40 - [23] - Quote derptron. google it http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif
Gumby Taron Blackwater USA Academy Mordus Angels 5	Posted - 2014.11.21 06:45:43 - [24] - Quote I would say join a good corp. If you need help with that mail me, as solo pvp when you're a beginner can get rather discouraging.
CODE Agent AC The Conference Elite CODE. 762	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:29:17 - [25] - Quote Luwc wrote: derptron. google it Derptron & CODE = the most amusing venture. Pun intended. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 The Conference Elite CODE. 959	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:29:17 - [26] - Quote Luwc wrote: derptron. google it Derptron & CODE = the most amusing venture. Pun intended. The Artist Formerly Known As AC. The terminal end of the digestive system. The Best CSM Candidate
Anal Canal The Conference Elite CODE. 959	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:29:17 - [27] - Quote Luwc wrote: derptron. google it Derptron & CODE = the most amusing venture. Pun intended. The Artist Formerly Known As AC. The terminal end of the digestive system. The Best CSM Candidate
Formerly Known AsAC The Conference Elite CODE. 959	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:29:17 - [28] - Quote Luwc wrote: derptron. google it Derptron & CODE = the most amusing venture. Pun intended. The Artist Formerly Known As AC. The terminal end of the digestive system. The Best CSM Candidate
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 161	Posted - 2014.11.22 17:08:17 - [29] - Quote Xaruna Kendit Klar wrote: As the title suggests, this is what I want to do. What's the best starter (Gallente), ship should I be going for and how should I fit it? Are there any corps out there that like to take complete new players on to teach the fine art of PvP? Fastest path to PvP is suicide ganking with a catalyst. YOu can start killing retrievers in a day. Mackinaws in a week or two.
Tiberius Mathusia Legio X Latro Bohica Empire 3	Posted - 2014.11.23 17:24:04 - [30] - Quote I found fw to be a good place to learn in conjunction with reading guides, flying cheap hulls and throwing yourself into fights. Took a chance against a destroyer solo today and won so don't run away from a fight just because you think you may lose. Even if you lose any new encounter is a learning experience. Also I've made 200mil isk just from plexing which pays for plenty of frigate. Unless you've got another source of income can be difficult funding pvp outside fw.
Aeryn Maricadie Periphery Bound Dominatus Atrum Mortis 2	Posted - 2014.11.24 07:20:27 - [31] - Quote Get a tanky frigate go find a giant furball of a fight and dive in, neither side will realize you aren't with either one and tanky ships are usually not primary because they take too long to kill, plus if you shoot at everyone you are guaranteed a good killboard.
Alaric Faelen Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes 296	Posted - 2014.12.12 03:27:57 - [32] - Quote Quote: What's the quickest path to PvP? ---make friends
Athena Aideron EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 23	Posted - 2014.12.19 00:38:23 - [33] - Quote Duels. Try those. They easy and less prone to get you blobbed (will get you podded though, so gtfo if you dies) The secret though is to go in trade hubs and AVOID the local duelers, theyl wrek your face. That should get you a few kills and some good xp. Try to duel player your age, most important. Now hate me all you want, but go do duels in noob systems and around (you sound pretty new so I dont think its a problem). Point is the players in those systems are as cluless as you are and will allow you to "pvp" at a softer pace. When youre confortable with how your ships flys and so forth, get into a 1 man corp or small pvp corp and declare war on others and get some xp fighting the odds. My 2 cents anyway. p.s or you could do the classic "get 100 frigs and go welp them in fw space", that also works I'M not having fun until YOU'RE not having fun.
ARMED1 Ready Player 1 51	Posted - 2014.12.22 09:13:22 - [34] - Quote 1. Get in a ship 2. Put guns on it (load the guns) 3. Go get dead & learn something from each loss 4. Rinse and repeat
Idriane Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno. 3	Posted - 2014.12.22 17:18:58 - [35] - Quote Undock and go to low sec.... pvp will be there
Shaggy Vatuiel Original Sinners The Bastion 9	Posted - 2015.03.22 10:42:23 - [36] - Quote RvB Cheap ships, lots of fleets, events and even and FC LP program. I started there and got over 2000 kills in 18 months. RvB for PvP.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 1520	Posted - 2015.03.22 11:50:22 - [37] - Quote Undock. My Many Misadventures Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I seek to create content, not become content.
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries 882	Posted - 2015.03.23 02:37:39 - [38] - Quote ggodhsup wrote: Lloyd Roses wrote: Ya, best way would be to get a dozen cheap ships to a lowsec border next to a warzone and then just dive in. If you want pvp-experience, you should also skip joining FW for now so you can fight against both sides. I'd suggest cheap ships, like meta-fitted tristans or thrashers. Get 10 os those and you still only spent 30mil :D ^^ this....tristans and if you arent drone-centric yet, incursus', i would fit with blasters....regular tackle in mids....and an aar armor tank for the lows. doubling the targets is definetly going to get you more fights...more fights....more figuring things out. i will say though that i havent had first hand experience but some fly FW stabbed, so dont be surprised to see people warp out if the fight looks like it isnt going their way. the quickest path is "set destination" to the nearest low-sec system and start hunting....just stay away from gates and stations.....the guns will eat you for breakfast. always update your clone. I tried to update my clone as you said I should. I'm having difficulty. Could you talk me through it??
Syrilian Ascending Angels 50	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:59:35 - [39] - Quote I am still learning but I have learned alot by doing 3 things: Joining FW, Join a good FW corp that is noob friendly, get into fights and talk to the people that killed you. You may have to put up with some bragging but they will often give you some good advice.
Arla Sarain 368	Posted - 2015.03.24 16:13:59 - [40] - Quote Wouldn't say FW is a good place to learn and to get regular PvP, mostly because of the quality of PvP - majority of targets are stabbed, and those that aren't either outship you by a larger margin or have friends on standby. If you've established an ISK fountain for yourself - do RvB. It's less of a hassle and the fight density is likely to be higher. You buy ships, pay Red Frog some odd 5mill to ship it to one of the RvB systems that are like 2-5j out, arrive at location, assemble/fit and undock.
infra52x University of Caille Gallente Federation 43	Posted - 2015.03.28 03:31:32 - [41] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: ggodhsup wrote: Lloyd Roses wrote: Ya, best way would be to get a dozen cheap ships to a lowsec border next to a warzone and then just dive in. If you want pvp-experience, you should also skip joining FW for now so you can fight against both sides. I'd suggest cheap ships, like meta-fitted tristans or thrashers. Get 10 os those and you still only spent 30mil :D ^^ this....tristans and if you arent drone-centric yet, incursus', i would fit with blasters....regular tackle in mids....and an aar armor tank for the lows. doubling the targets is definetly going to get you more fights...more fights....more figuring things out. i will say though that i havent had first hand experience but some fly FW stabbed, so dont be surprised to see people warp out if the fight looks like it isnt going their way. the quickest path is "set destination" to the nearest low-sec system and start hunting....just stay away from gates and stations.....the guns will eat you for breakfast. always update your clone. I tried to update my clone as you said I should. I'm having difficulty. Could you talk me through it?? dont need to do it anymore..ccp changed it
Dana Goodeye Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.04.12 14:33:32 - [42] - Quote i think the guy who started this thread already got the answer, but i hope there are some other newbies looking for pvp and gonna read what i write. first of all even if you want to do pvp or not, you need the basics. and you not gonna get them via duelling other clueless newbies wich is useless anyway, or just pvping in losec and get blown up. if you have no idea why you lost the fight, you have no chance to learn. so. if youre a newbie, drop me a mail ingame, i will send you 2mails i wrote to my newbies some months ago, mostly about skilling, and some basics. try to get help from pvpers. ask them about these, and learn about these: insta undock, insta dock, safe, scan and tactical bookmarks. dscan. its important. tactical overlay. grouping guns. using the right ammo. using the right orbit range. manual fly, manual fly tracking or counter the manual tracking. sig radius, speed armor shield and hull tanking. optimal range, fallofc range, gun tracking and the effects of them. angular velocity and getting in range with spiralling. if nobody gonna tells you about these, they hard to figure out on your own. and my newbie rules are: skill, dont go to losec nullsec or wh dont accept duels dont touch yellow stuff dont shoot red or yellow blinky ppl... i know oki, but a newbie alone should stay safe until they have some clue about how to engage or disengage a target. fly safe until you can fly dangerously =D
Noir Ruda The Red Scarfs 10	Posted - 2015.04.13 08:28:19 - [43] - Quote Quickest path is to just do it over and over and over and over and over again. If you die review your fights. If you even go so far to record them you will learn even more. Fit out a lot of frigates and try to get as much engagements as possible.
Brutus Utama Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx 19	Posted - 2015.04.16 11:40:45 - [44] - Quote get a tristan and go into low sec
Veronica Isagar Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 17	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:48:59 - [45] - Quote Quickest way to PVP, UNDOCK!!! BLACK FOX is RECRUITING
Estella Osoka Perkone Caldari State 577	Posted - 2015.04.17 13:27:47 - [46] - Quote Undock, turn off your safety, lock first ship you see, fire.
Dana Goodeye Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.04.20 11:48:08 - [47] - Quote Estella Osoka wrote: Undock, turn off your safety, lock first ship you see, fire. if you dont want to help newbies about pvp, its oki, but dont tell them stuff wich get them killed by concord in hisec, and by station guns in losec please -.- and btw, if we have more good pvp pilots, because we help the newbies to be good at pvp, tben we gonna have more good fights, and we gonna have more ppl in eve, and booth is good for everyone :P
Estella Osoka Perkone Caldari State 577	Posted - 2015.04.20 14:04:58 - [48] - Quote Dana Goodeye wrote: Estella Osoka wrote: Undock, turn off your safety, lock first ship you see, fire. if you dont want to help newbies about pvp, its oki, but dont tell them stuff wich get them killed by concord in hisec, and by station guns in losec please -.- and btw, if we have more good pvp pilots, because we help the newbies to be good at pvp, tben we gonna have more good fights, and we gonna have more ppl in eve, and booth is good for everyone :P Learning to lose ships is the hardest thing to learn in this game. Teaching people not to be risk-averse is the best advice to give.
Dana Goodeye Quafe Commandos Point Blank Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.04.20 16:30:07 - [49] - Quote i see =D well guys, in this case, my best advice is, undock and self destruct twice a day in a fully fitted ship xD i know a bunch of things were harder to learn to me than losing a ship =P

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