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eLLioTT wave
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.08.29 17:35:00 -
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Might just be me but is anyone else sick of the dock undock dock*20 game some people think is a lot of fun to play? All the while smacking in local and nothing you can do about it...
Is this okay? maybe some increasing penalty? eg undock 2x inside one hour and get shot at both times and you start getting your redock timer increased by 30 seconds each undock?
So say you undock 5x in a minute get shot at each time then redock, the 5th time it will take you 1:30 to be able to redock.
OR maybe undock 1km outside dock range?
The examples ive seen that i think are a bit silly is carriers undocking, aggressing, then docking again and only having to tank for 1 minute. It's kinda like when u were a kid playing CTF with bases that the other team couldn't enter (safe zones) and someone keeps coming out and running back in just stirring.
Anyone else think this needs changing?
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Angellyne
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Posted - 2006.08.29 17:42:00 -
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Right Click Smacktard -> Block.
Not being facetious here, really... if you can't hear the smack, is there an issue?
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Office Hijinks
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Posted - 2006.08.29 18:04:00 -
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I take it you're blobbing an NPC station in 0.0 then? Maybe if you weren't doing that they wouldn't have to scout with their carriers to see what's outside. Because, for them, undocking blind into a gank blob is far less fun than undock dock undock *20002020302020.
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Sarran Talana
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Posted - 2006.08.29 23:50:00 -
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I had a situation recently, I undock in my Raven, there were 9 ships, Scorp, Megathron, HAC and misc cruisers.
Start fighting them. Jammed. Jammed. Jammmed. Dock. Repeat.
Cant fight if you cant target unless you use gimped FoF.
So undocking and redocking repeatedly to try to kill someone before the inevitable jamming starts is the only option in that situation.
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Infinity Ziona
Apostasia
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Posted - 2006.08.29 23:51:00 -
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Above is me grrr.
Click Me
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Bluestealth
Minmatar
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.30 00:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Angellyne
Right Click Smacktard -> Block.
Not being facetious here, really... if you can't hear the smack, is there an issue?
Its actually quite effective! 
Clay101 was the first person to join my blocklist.
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.30 00:47:00 -
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Fighting at stations where the enemy can dock is a total waste of time because of this. Fortunately there are lots of other places to fight.
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Kage Getsu
Lordless
Unbrella Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.30 00:48:00 -
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I think local chat should count as aggression for the purposes of docking and jumping.
Own a piece of the biggest scammer in EVE history! |
Mi Lai
Sanguine Legion
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.30 00:52:00 -
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Only if they add windows to stations 
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eLLioTT wave
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.08.30 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mi Lai
Only if they add windows to stations
What a bout a viewing portal in station mixed with when you undock you are 2km outside dock range? |
Keta Min
Pre-nerfed Tactics
Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2006.08.30 01:15:00 -
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station windows ftw
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Felysta Sandorn
Caldari
Murder of Crows
E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.08.30 01:21:00 -
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I agree... You should be able to undock and dock again straight away once despite timers or aggro... But then if you undock again within the next 5 minutes, your docking permission should be denied for 2 minutes rather than 1, but you can be targetted after 30 seconds or whatever the actual time is. A simple message like:
"Your docking request has been denied. Our docking personel are too busy to be messed around with time wasters. Come back when you want to stay in station"
Then if you undock again in 5 minutes after the second time, you should be denied to dock for 5 minutes... Something along those lines...
We were in a situation recently where someone undocked at a station and we took him in to structure, then he docked, refitted with hull, armour, and shield reps/boosters, and just kept undocking, repping his hull and armour while tanking with shield, docking, recharging cap (by turning a mod off and on in fittings), rinsing and repeating... Stupidly enough, we kept getting in to his armour each time he undocked, he was only just tanking us long enough to repair a few hitpoints.
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turnschuh
Eye of God
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Posted - 2006.08.30 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kage Getsu
I think local chat should count as aggression for the purposes of docking and jumping.
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eLLioTT wave
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.08.30 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min
station windows ftw
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Malicious Wraith
The Dark Side of the Moon
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Posted - 2006.08.30 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min
station windows ftw
rofl
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Tentacles Out
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.30 02:41:00 -
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Better yet. If you're in a gang outside a station a timer should start and after 5 mins everyone inside the station is automatically undocked and cant redock in any station for 30 mins. That would really show those carebears.
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eLLioTT wave
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.08.30 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tentacles Out
Better yet. If you're in a gang outside a station a timer should start and after 5 mins everyone inside the station is automatically undocked and cant redock in any station for 30 mins. That would really show those carebears.
The point is not to be able to force people to undock and fight, but rather to discourage people undocking and redocking over and over just to be annoying.
Either an increasing redock penalty with a cool off period OR a viewing portal to see whats outside station and undocking 1-2km away from dock range would fix this. Any other ideas?
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Guntaro
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Posted - 2006.08.30 06:15:00 -
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station camping is just as lame as repeated docking and undocking, no...wait, it's actually lamer!
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Paradice Lost
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Posted - 2006.08.30 06:38:00 -
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Ok ok ok... before I start lauging so hard I fall out of my chair again let me get this straight...
You have a large group of people, you are sitting outside a station just so you can kill individual players as they come out which you apparently don't have the skill to do in a one on one fight.... and you're ****ed because you still can't kill them even with a large group?
Please someone tell me this isn't a joke so I can show this post to other people for a good laugh.
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eLLioTT wave
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.08.30 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: eLLioTT wave on 30/08/2006 09:00:01
Originally by: Paradice Lost
Ok ok ok... before I start lauging so hard I fall out of my chair again let me get this straight...
You have a large group of people, you are sitting outside a station just so you can kill individual players as they come out which you apparently don't have the skill to do in a one on one fight.... and you're ****ed because you still can't kill them even with a large group?
Please someone tell me this isn't a joke so I can show this post to other people for a good laugh.
No, basically we have one or two ships outside a station. An enemy much larger undocks, starts shooting us and then docks again. We have tried engaging in industrial ships and still no luck. This is not one specific incidient but many different pilots from many different corps and alliance. Doing it in carriers is especially annoying.
Basically i think you should be able to tell whether or not the station is camped from inside, and then choose to undock/fight/try to run away, or not undock/clone jump/play escrow. Undocking, fighting, then docking again in 60 seconds to "run back home" and be safe is what i am saying is lame.
edit: tbh there are a few more important things going on in eve right now though :p *cough* patch |
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