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Katlyn Koreth Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:49:39 - [1] - Quote Alright, so I got into Eve mainly because it's supposed to be the most realistic game out there.. and so far, it appears to be pretty authentic with regards to the economic system. However, it's also supposed to be famous for the sense of constant danger, the meaningful death penalty, the possibility of being attacked at any moment, etc... but I've played on and off for about 2 months, and I haven't seen a single battle. I haven't been attacked even once. I haven't even SEEN another player except for the occasional (afk!) miner, or person using the jump-gate ahead of me. I mine mostly in 0.5/0.6, and have also taken a peek in low sec on several occasions (with a relatively weak ship). No danger, no problems, nothing at all. I've also read that nullsec is a snooze fest lately because one alliance controls most of it (not sure of this, just what I have read from other players). So, what gives? Has the game been changed over the years to cater to people who complained about it being too unpredictable? Have I just been "lucky"? Where's the EVE I've read so much about?
Kendra Katana Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 67	Posted - 2014.11.20 15:59:42 - [2] - Quote That's your problem really. You reside in High-sec that is (theoretically) safest part of known space. Game mechanics are rather tricky when it comes to actual pew-pewing so it's very unlikely you will witness any actual space-battle there. Most of high-sec PvP content is generated through Wardecs (official wars between corporations/alliances) or Suicide ganking where bunch of players with cheap, high dps ships will suicide gank a miner or freighter resulting in loss of their entire fleet, but with some luck, also their target's ship. If you joined EvE for PvP content, space battles and in general - fun, I would advise to look for a corporation based in Low/Null-sec space where combat content is the primary activity. Cheers.
Bethan Le Troix Krusual Investigation Agency 136	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:04:02 - [3] - Quote Enjoy your low profile while you still have it. Once it is gone you will mourn it's passing. I expect certain people have already added you to their 'to do' lists.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6995	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:04:54 - [4] - Quote Get out of that God awful npc cor and join a player one "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Katlyn Koreth Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:22:15 - [5] - Quote Haha yeah, nice, come get me :) Looking for an excuse to upgrade to a Mack...seeing my Retriever reduced to an expanding pile of debris would be an excellent reason! I know highsec is meant to be "safer", but it feels downright boring so far. Def want to get into low sec and nulsec, but so few skills right now I couldn't contribute much. Maybe in a few weeks.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6995	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:27:01 - [6] - Quote Katlyn Koreth wrote: but so few skills right now I couldn't contribute much. Maybe in a few weeks. NO! you have enough as you are. Go shoot someone in the face (in-game obviously), go! DO IT RIGHT NOW! "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Kendra Katana Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 74	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:40:28 - [7] - Quote To be extremely honest, your approach to the game is far more important than SP you have. If you are willing to undock and fight, you're far more valuable than many other high SP pilots that are too scared to undock. Even small frigate with few webs can make a significant difference in a fleet vs fleet scenario.
Cannibal Kane Cannibal Empire 4423	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:45:27 - [8] - Quote Katlyn Koreth wrote: Haha yeah, nice, come get me :) Looking for an excuse to upgrade to a Mack...seeing my Retriever reduced to an expanding pile of debris would be an excellent reason! I know highsec is meant to be "safer", but it feels downright boring so far. Def want to get into low sec and nulsec, but so few skills right now I couldn't contribute much. Maybe in a few weeks. Skills don't matter when you know how to use what you already have. Don't wait to see ships explode, make them explode yourself. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Jean Luc Lemmont Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 288	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:51:34 - [9] - Quote Katlyn Koreth wrote: Haha yeah, nice, come get me :) Looking for an excuse to upgrade to a Mack...seeing my Retriever reduced to an expanding pile of debris would be an excellent reason! I know highsec is meant to be "safer", but it feels downright boring so far. Def want to get into low sec and nulsec, but so few skills right now I couldn't contribute much. Maybe in a few weeks. I will echo what Ralph has already said. This is the biggest lie new players get told, and the biggest reason so few of them stick around. I cannot stress enough that as a new player, the absolutely worst thing you can do is start off playing the "just one more skill game". That's how I started, and it took me 3 years to discover the real fun in Eve. Train these skills: Racial frigate 3 (You may even start with this one, I forget) Propulsion Jamming 3 Highspeed Maneuvering 3 Racial Weapon 3 You can now fly a very cheap frigate with a microwarp drive, some guns, a warp scrambler, and a webber. You are now useful in any fleet, and it will take you less than a day. You will die, gloriously, but as a newbro tackle frigate your job is to tie pinning down the target while your gang delivers the fatal blow. You will be the reason they got that kill - they will celebrate your existence within their corp, and the insurance will cover most of what you lost on the ship. A bitter vet trying to start anew.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6998	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:56:38 - [10] - Quote the role is caled "hero tackle" "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=

Jean Luc Lemmont Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 289	Posted - 2014.11.20 16:58:14 - [11] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: the role is caled "hero tackle" And let's not forget the CFC with their newbro fuckyou fleets. Those things are nasty. A bitter vet trying to start anew.
Haedonism Bot Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 1582	Posted - 2014.11.20 17:30:30 - [12] - Quote You are doing it wrong, that's why you are bored. If you stay in highsec and isolate yourself from the community as a miner then you are obviously not going to have much fun. Sure, a random suicide ganker may get you - much more likely if you live in a high population system - but aside from that you will be ignored. If you really want to make yourself a target it's pretty easy. But the better option is to reach out to other players yourself. You seem to be just waiting for someone to come and blow you up. It also sounds like you aren't a target worth going out of the way for. Wouldn't it be better to proactively blow other people up instead? CODE. is recruiting highsec PvPers for wardecs www.everevolutioanryfront.blogspot.com
voetius Quiet Days in Clichy 293	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:09:50 - [13] - Quote Could be a combination of who you are and where you are. I can assure you that if you regularly start hauling multi-billions around in high-sec you will soon find that sense of danger (I'm referring to my alts here )
Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC 717	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:10:17 - [14] - Quote Katlyn Koreth wrote: I know highsec is meant to be "safer", but it feels downright boring so far. Def want to get into low sec and nulsec, but so few skills right now I couldn't contribute much. Maybe in a few weeks. No amount of mining or industry skills will further prepare you for low sec. If you find mining boring and dull, stop immediately. The tutorials lead new players to believe that mining is a good way to make money. It's not. Unless you actually enjoy it there are far more efficient ways to make isk (missions, combat sites, FW plexes) which will allow you to train combat skills. Don't let yourself get in a rut. Join a corp. Fit some combat frigates and get them blown up. Find something to do which exposes you to more of Eve. Maybe you don't prefer direct combat. Try exploration or hauling in dangerous space. See if you can amass some wealth from trading or production. Basically, do anything that requires some brainpower. It'll keep you interested, teach you new things about the game, and help you meet people with similar interests. Eve is all about interaction with others. Interacting with rocks and Netflix is a recipe for boredom. www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com New player with questions? Just want to chat? Join my public channel in game: House Forelli
Thanatos Marathon Phoibe Enterprises 357	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:11:55 - [15] - Quote Go do some mining in Black Rise/Placid lowsec. Once your miner is destroyed fit some Frigs and go blow up other peoples stuff.
Steve Ronuken Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM 4215	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:31:47 - [16] - Quote https://evelexicon.com/list.php?id=74 Woo! CSM 9! Fuzzwork Enterprises Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
embrel BamBam Inc. Outlanders United 203	Posted - 2014.11.20 18:50:31 - [17] - Quote Katlyn Koreth wrote: Alright, so I got into Eve mainly because it's supposed to be the most realistic game out there.. and so far, it appears to be pretty authentic with regards to the economic system. However, it's also supposed to be famous for the sense of constant danger, the meaningful death penalty, the possibility of being attacked at any moment, etc... but I've played on and off for about 2 months, and I haven't seen a single battle. I haven't been attacked even once. I haven't even SEEN another player except for the occasional (afk!) miner, or person using the jump-gate ahead of me. I mine mostly in 0.5/0.6, and have also taken a peek in low sec on several occasions (with a relatively weak ship). No danger, no problems, nothing at all. I've also read that nullsec is a snooze fest lately because one alliance controls most of it (not sure of this, just what I have read from other players). So, what gives? Has the game been changed over the years to cater to people who complained about it being too unpredictable? Have I just been "lucky"? Where's the EVE I've read so much about? Or fly thru Rancer while Lovebox is on.
Eldwinn SomeWhat SophiSticateD Shadow Cartel 90	Posted - 2014.11.20 19:06:01 - [18] - Quote Katlyn Koreth wrote: Alright, so I got into Eve mainly because it's supposed to be the most realistic game out there.. and so far, it appears to be pretty authentic with regards to the economic system. However, it's also supposed to be famous for the sense of constant danger, the meaningful death penalty, the possibility of being attacked at any moment, etc... but I've played on and off for about 2 months, and I haven't seen a single battle. I haven't been attacked even once. I haven't even SEEN another player except for the occasional (afk!) miner, or person using the jump-gate ahead of me. I mine mostly in 0.5/0.6, and have also taken a peek in low sec on several occasions (with a relatively weak ship). No danger, no problems, nothing at all. I've also read that nullsec is a snooze fest lately because one alliance controls most of it (not sure of this, just what I have read from other players). So, what gives? Has the game been changed over the years to cater to people who complained about it being too unpredictable? Have I just been "lucky"? Where's the EVE I've read so much about? Sounds like you are content leech. Make your own content and get involved with the community. If you want content to be handed to you re-adjust your expectations.
Azda Ja BUMP POW 397	Posted - 2014.11.20 19:19:25 - [19] - Quote Pretty much everything has been covered. I'd like to underline the following advice, leave the NPC corp yesterday. Don't listen to the "vets" that live in them telling you you can't do stuff. The game opened up a LOT for me when I left the default corp. Another thing to keep in mind is that EVE is a game that rewards being proactive and assertive with finding content. EVE is a hell of a lot of fun when you start out since you get new toys to try out faster than you can master them, but with curiosity, trial and error, some guidance and some naive bravado, you can do some pretty cool stuff just days (hours in too) into the game. Oh, and friends helps. Make friends, it makes a world of difference. Go forth and be social! o7 "I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 7004	Posted - 2014.11.20 19:27:59 - [20] - Quote just don't trust anyone with your stuff. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=

Jean Luc Lemmont Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 294	Posted - 2014.11.20 19:57:32 - [21] - Quote Azda Ja wrote: Oh, and friends helps. Make friends, it makes a world of difference. Go forth and be social! o7 Not empty quoting. A bitter vet trying to start anew.
Winter Archipelago Thera Industries 291	Posted - 2014.11.20 20:09:20 - [22] - Quote Eldwinn wrote: Sounds like you are content leech. Make your own content and get involved with the community. If you want content to be handed to you re-adjust your expectations. That's pretty harsh to say to a new player. New players see and hear all this stuff that's going on, then join EVE, expecting that the world around them is going to be a Hellish warzone, only to find that it's actually rather safe and peaceful (Highsec), and they're a bit lost because of it. It's better to give them a bit of guidance and coaching on how to locate, and create, the content they desire, as opposed to simply insulting them as being a "leech" when they have no way of knowing better. Join the channel *Thera Industries* in-game for a general public channel for Thera-based industrialists.
Jean Luc Lemmont Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 295	Posted - 2014.11.20 20:46:21 - [23] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: just don't trust anyone with your stuff. Are you kidding, I don't even trust my alts with my stuff. A bitter vet trying to start anew.
Leoric Firesword Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Redux 92	Posted - 2014.11.20 21:03:01 - [24] - Quote Jean Luc Lemmont wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: just don't trust anyone with your stuff. Are you kidding, I don't even trust my alts with my stuff. neither do I, not after that bastard stole that first 100 mil.
Katlyn Koreth Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.11.20 21:03:23 - [25] - Quote Winter Archipelago wrote: Eldwinn wrote: Sounds like you are content leech. Make your own content and get involved with the community. If you want content to be handed to you re-adjust your expectations. That's pretty harsh to say to a new player. New players see and hear all this stuff that's going on, then join EVE, expecting that the world around them is going to be a Hellish warzone, only to find that it's actually rather safe and peaceful (Highsec), and they're a bit lost because of it. It's better to give them a bit of guidance and coaching on how to locate, and create, the content they desire, as opposed to simply insulting them as being a "leech" when they have no way of knowing better. Thanks to everyone for their advice, and a particular thanks to Winter for understanding my perspective. What is the best way to go about joining a corp? The in-game system, or on the forums? I've applied to a bunch in-game but have gotten no responses yet.
Winter Archipelago Thera Industries 293	Posted - 2014.11.20 21:14:16 - [26] - Quote Katlyn Koreth wrote: Thanks to everyone for their advice, and a particular thanks to Winter for understanding my perspective. What is the best way to go about joining a corp? The in-game system, or on the forums? I've applied to a bunch in-game but have gotten no responses yet. Check out NightCrawler 85's thread, How to find the corp that is right for you. It's a bit of a read, but she's already compiled a lot of good info on the topic. To add to that, if you're interested in PvP, I would also advise to look into the NPSI groups (Not Purple, Shoot It) (aka, if you aren't in our fleet, we'll shoot at you). Spectre Fleet and RvB Ganked are the two big ones right now. Fly with them, chat with them, learn from them, and you might find yourself receiving an offer to join someone's corp. Even if you don't, it's a lot of good experience flying with them. Join the channel *Thera Industries* in-game for a general public channel for Thera-based industrialists.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 7012	Posted - 2014.11.20 21:36:22 - [27] - Quote Katlyn Koreth wrote: Thanks to everyone for their advice, and a particular thanks to Winter for understanding my perspective. What is the best way to go about joining a corp? The in-game system, or on the forums? I've applied to a bunch in-game but have gotten no responses yet. I wasn't just trying to be funny with that bit on going out and picking a fight with strangers, a lot of PvP Corps have a "shoot the nubie in the face" method of recruiting. theirs an eve tradition of shooting nubies in the face to see how well they take it, if well they are summarily showered with advice on how to fit ships, PvP, avoid getting shot in the face, spotting gatecamps, links to resources to help them get their heads around eve, sometimes given isk to soften the blow and occasionally recruited. this is all provided that a) they aren't bellends b) you aren't a bellend If you get bored, go try it. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Azda Ja BUMP POW 401	Posted - 2014.11.20 21:59:08 - [28] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Katlyn Koreth wrote: Thanks to everyone for their advice, and a particular thanks to Winter for understanding my perspective. What is the best way to go about joining a corp? The in-game system, or on the forums? I've applied to a bunch in-game but have gotten no responses yet. I wasn't just trying to be funny with that bit on going out and picking a fight with strangers, a lot of PvP Corps have a "shoot the nubie in the face" method of recruiting. theirs an eve tradition of shooting nubies in the face to see how well they take it, if well they are summarily showered with advice on how to fit ships, PvP, avoid getting shot in the face, spotting gatecamps, links to resources to help them get their heads around eve, sometimes given isk to soften the blow and occasionally recruited. this is all provided that a) they aren't bellends b) you aren't a bellend If you get bored, go try it. Confirming that blaster fire is how we say: "Hi. Will you be my friend?" "I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 7013	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:01:07 - [29] - Quote Azda Ja wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Katlyn Koreth wrote: Thanks to everyone for their advice, and a particular thanks to Winter for understanding my perspective. What is the best way to go about joining a corp? The in-game system, or on the forums? I've applied to a bunch in-game but have gotten no responses yet. I wasn't just trying to be funny with that bit on going out and picking a fight with strangers, a lot of PvP Corps have a "shoot the nubie in the face" method of recruiting. theirs an eve tradition of shooting nubies in the face to see how well they take it, if well they are summarily showered with advice on how to fit ships, PvP, avoid getting shot in the face, spotting gatecamps, links to resources to help them get their heads around eve, sometimes given isk to soften the blow and occasionally recruited. this is all provided that a) they aren't bellends b) you aren't a bellend If you get bored, go try it. Confirming that blaster fire is how we say: "Hi. Will you be my friend?" http://youtu.be/JSxNW5dDYEY "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Azda Ja BUMP POW 401	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:06:22 - [30] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Azda Ja wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Katlyn Koreth wrote: Thanks to everyone for their advice, and a particular thanks to Winter for understanding my perspective. What is the best way to go about joining a corp? The in-game system, or on the forums? I've applied to a bunch in-game but have gotten no responses yet. I wasn't just trying to be funny with that bit on going out and picking a fight with strangers, a lot of PvP Corps have a "shoot the nubie in the face" method of recruiting. theirs an eve tradition of shooting nubies in the face to see how well they take it, if well they are summarily showered with advice on how to fit ships, PvP, avoid getting shot in the face, spotting gatecamps, links to resources to help them get their heads around eve, sometimes given isk to soften the blow and occasionally recruited. this is all provided that a) they aren't bellends b) you aren't a bellend If you get bored, go try it. Confirming that blaster fire is how we say: "Hi. Will you be my friend?" http://youtu.be/JSxNW5dDYEY "I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish



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