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Silence iKillYouu
The Innocent Criminals
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Posted - 2011.11.28 03:50:00 -
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If CCP are going to listen to the players is there any use for the corrupt CSM?
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T' Elk
SniggWaffe
175
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Posted - 2011.11.28 03:52:00 -
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Huehuehuehuehue God wears-áRay Ban Aviators. |

Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
491
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Posted - 2011.11.28 03:54:00 -
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Silence iKillYouu wrote:If CCP are going to listen to the players is there any use for the corrupt CSM?
They lobbied for Super Cap Nerfs.
Also evidence they are corrupt.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1694
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Posted - 2011.11.28 04:04:00 -
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Silence iKillYouu wrote:is there any use for the corrupt CSM? Sure: to make sure CCP listens to the players.
Also, how is the CSM corrupt?
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
14
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Posted - 2011.11.28 04:22:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Silence iKillYouu wrote:is there any use for the corrupt CSM? Sure: to make sure CCP listens to the players. Also, how is the CSM corrupt?
They like things I don't like.
The bastards. Regards,
Sgt. Aiwha |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
196
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Posted - 2011.11.28 04:23:00 -
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Oh fgs, here we go again.
This has been done to death. Stop posting. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2011.11.28 04:34:00 -
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i think we are now beating the sisters cousin grandpa of the dead horse atm. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
406
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Posted - 2011.11.28 05:38:00 -
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But they like nerf my favorite things I cannot fly yet.
p-p
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rodyas
The Scope Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2011.11.28 06:00:00 -
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CSM is based on a somewhat older business model that usually makes sense in the right context. EVE is pretty big and sometimes changes, much like sometimes feel CSM dont apply. Plus you might read and post in general discussion more then the forum page they are usually in and such.
They are like a tool sometimes use the hammer or screwdriver when its called for. At the alliance tournament they took general questions from the playerbase and then like CSM its nice having a more private conversation then an open playerbase one. It all depends on the circumstances and which sounds funner. |

Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.11.28 06:09:00 -
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All the players don't agree.
All the players don't come to the forums.
CCP created 2 distinct groups of players, those who want more WiS and those who want more FiS.
CCP can listen to the players all they want. What they can't do is stop civil war that they have created.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
361
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Posted - 2011.11.28 07:45:00 -
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Silence iKillYouu wrote:If CCP are going to listen to the players is there any use for the corrupt CSM?
The problem there's not a "the players". CCP doesn't try very hard to actually know what the in-game players think. The CSM is a very sorry excuse for a player representation. CCP better does in-game polls and surveys and not a voting system that's used by 10% of the players and subsequently have a little more over half of the votes actually count. Next to that, none of the representatives represent your views 100% anyway. The bias between what thew playersbase wants and thinks and what the CSM says and votes for is huge.
So CCP can't listen to the players because there's no way for the players to "speak". |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1040
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Posted - 2011.11.28 07:50:00 -
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lol this again |

Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
105
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Posted - 2011.11.28 08:02:00 -
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Jennifer Starling wrote:
So CCP can't listen to the players because there's no way for the players to "speak".
Not to be negative, but....isn't that why the CSM was formed in the first place?
Seriously, we complained that we weren't being listened to (which caused a major public-relations retooling and cost some very good people their jobs), and now we complain about the one direct line of contact that we have with CCP.
So, which is it: ditch the CSM and have no voice whatsoever, or keep the CSM and continue to have a 'Red Phone' into CCP itself? |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1036
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Posted - 2011.11.28 09:03:00 -
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If the CSM is making somebody named "Silence IKillYouu" mad then I say re-elect them forever. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
199
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Posted - 2011.11.28 09:33:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:
CCP created 2 distinct groups of players, those who want more WiS and those who want more FiS.
I wan't both of those things... DA
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.28 09:52:00 -
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Please do not create multiple threads about the same topic. Thank you.
Thread locked.
Discussions around the CSM can be continued here and here. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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