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Ralgur
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Posted - 2006.08.30 21:42:00 -
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I can't find the post I was reading, but my subject line is more related to what I wanted to say obviously.
I tested something. I had Eve installed on a laptop hard drive. I then copied it from the hard drive to a 2gig flash drive. I then uninstalled Eve from the laptop hard drive.
Eve ran like a champ. Why is this useful? Well, if you are at work, you can just plug in the flash drive and play. Better yet, it works very well for dialup. Granted, if you are pvp hound, you probably won't be able to do this very effectively due to lag.
It gives portability to the game I never thought possible as well. Just take the ole flash drive where ever. Plug it in and you're ready to go.
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Benco97
Gallente
Cosmic Odyssey
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.30 21:55:00 -
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been doing this for a while now myself, it's handy as there are as many as 9 different computers I may be using at any one point between work-my house-mates places
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Soren Eisarson
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Posted - 2006.08.30 21:58:00 -
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Only problem with a flash drive is that they will crap out after some number of uses and just die, loosing all your eve data :(
I'd suggest a small external hard drive. Has many more uses.
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Inanna Sumer
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2006.08.30 21:58:00 -
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This could be very bad for the flash drive due to the cache folder, you can only write to flash memory a certain number of times before it fails so your drive may wind up failing and shrinking over time. For best life of the drive you'd probably want to transfer your eve install from the flash disk to the HD of the machine you're playing on then just delete it when you're done if you want to save space.
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Astorothe
Ono-Sensai
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Posted - 2006.08.30 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Astorothe on 30/08/2006 22:12:12
Flash drives last an incredibly long time. Life span is directly proportional to the number of flash memory physical blocks in the device. The greater the number of flash memory blocks in the flash drive (and therefore total capacity), the longer the wear-out life of the device.
As an example, a 34GB flash drive rated at an endurance limit of 1 million erase/write cycles will have an endurance life of 1,024,000,000 seconds (or 32.47 years) when written continuously at 34MB/sec (or 2,937.6GB Erase/Write per day). This is the worst possible scenario where all I/O is 100% write and caching is disabled.
EDIT: So that's around a year of life per gig as a general rule of thumb. :)
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.08.30 22:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Astorothe
Edited by: Astorothe on 30/08/2006 22:12:12
Flash drives last an incredibly long time. Life span is directly proportional to the number of flash memory physical blocks in the device. The greater the number of flash memory blocks in the flash drive (and therefore total capacity), the longer the wear-out life of the device.
As an example, a 34GB flash drive rated at an endurance limit of 1 million erase/write cycles will have an endurance life of 1,024,000,000 seconds (or 32.47 years) when written continuously at 34MB/sec (or 2,937.6GB Erase/Write per day). This is the worst possible scenario where all I/O is 100% write and caching is disabled.
EDIT: So that's around a year of life per gig as a general rule of thumb. :)
That calculation is only true if you write from start to end every time, not if you change stuff in the same place all the time.
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Astorothe
Ono-Sensai
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Posted - 2006.08.30 22:15:00 -
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We can split hairs if you like and get down and geeky - but the fact that Flash disks have a long enough life span for their costs is now moot.
:)
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Coasterbrian
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.30 22:31:00 -
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Interesting, could be handy for changing skills when on vacation..... or at school, if the omgwtfparanoid locked down XP machines will let me run an executable from a flash drive. 
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Joram Tadir
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Posted - 2006.08.30 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
That calculation is only true if you write from start to end every time, not if you change stuff in the same place all the time.
I thought Flash drives evened out the wear so that even if you continuously wrote to the same logical sector it remaps under the covers so the same physical location is not used over and over?
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Jamikest
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Posted - 2006.08.31 02:38:00 -
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I run a installation of eve off a portable harddrive.
I just installed Eve onto the drive, and away I went.
In other words, a notebook 40gb drive in a small case with a USB adapter. The whole assembly fits into my shirt pocket and costs about $68 USD. Runs fine on the work computers with the graphics turned way down.
Combine this with the needed software to run SSH and a portable app firefox and I have secure, unrestricted, firewall-be-damned setup to run Eve aat work.
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Lord Dynastron
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Posted - 2006.08.31 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Soren Eisarson
Only problem with a flash drive is that they will crap out after some number of uses and just die, loosing all your eve data :(
I'd suggest a small external hard drive. Has many more uses.
That is what I use,,, an itty bitty bus powered external hard drive. Had one of the great big ones that required its own power,,, but that was a huge PITA since the itty bitty bus powered ones are now out.
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Bellatrix VanFeldt
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Posted - 2006.08.31 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Joram Tadir
I thought Flash drives evened out the wear so that even if you continuously wrote to the same logical sector it remaps under the covers so the same physical location is not used over and over?
Joram FTW! This is called wear levelling and this is why your flash drive will last a long, long time. Google for "Flash wear levelling" if you want more information.
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Raider Zero
Minmatar
Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.31 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Astorothe
Edited by: Astorothe on 30/08/2006 22:12:12
Flash drives last an incredibly long time. Life span is directly proportional to the number of flash memory physical blocks in the device. The greater the number of flash memory blocks in the flash drive (and therefore total capacity), the longer the wear-out life of the device.
As an example, a 34GB flash drive rated at an endurance limit of 1 million erase/write cycles will have an endurance life of 1,024,000,000 seconds (or 32.47 years) when written continuously at 34MB/sec (or 2,937.6GB Erase/Write per day). This is the worst possible scenario where all I/O is 100% write and caching is disabled.
EDIT: So that's around a year of life per gig as a general rule of thumb. :)
While your numbers are correct, I doubt that any consumers have a 34 GB flash drive. If there is one available in any sort of retail channel, industrial or otherwise it would have a hellacious price tag.
I like your edit though, that's a good rule of thumb and adds up nicely with my experience. I had a SanDisk 512MB flash drive that died spontaneously on me after about 1.5 years, which would make sense since I used it about 5-6 hours/day and would put it in the window of failure.
The solutions involving a lappy hard drive are more elegant by far imo as your flash drive would live longer, you have more data storage available, costs are not significantly different, and you still have almost as much portability.
BTW, running portable firefox and eve @ work-you're a naughty boy^^^^ I need to talk more to my company's IT dept. about how hard they look for that stuff-paid to play Eve sounds great to me!
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Zorthal Darendal
Gallente
Brotherhood of the Ancients
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Posted - 2006.08.31 19:11:00 -
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I run eve on my laptop, and have mobile internet coverage at 1.8MBps
Play Eve anywhere there is cellphone coverage
Only snag is power, but saving for a car 12v transformer 
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MrBadidea
Caldari
Syndicate Of Shadows
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Posted - 2006.08.31 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
That calculation is only true if you write from start to end every time, not if you change stuff in the same place all the time.
Not so. Flashdrives contain logic that spreads the load of new writes to sectors with the least use, averaging the number of writes across the whole series of blocks available to the device, where possible.
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