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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2003.10.17 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Reaver on 17/10/2003 14:44:24
Hi ELbereth
This is the low down on ECM and ECCM okie
ECM the ability to jam your opponent. For this you need to use modules that lower his sensor strength. For my scorpion this means you need to lower my Gravi. Problem here for you is that I run sometimes 4 ECCM modules in low slots. This boosts my standard gravi from 16 base to 22. You wont know this until you try and jam me :) I also sometimes run an ECCM1 in a med slot which gives me a further 3 to this for 25 base Gravi!
So say you jam me anyway as you are running like 6 ECM multisepctrals at -4 each for a total jamming strenght of 24. I am only running with say 2 ECCM low slot boosters to gravi giving me 20 base as they are 2 each.
Trouble is I usually run with 5 kapteyn sensor arrays! Sometimes 6 so I can take on two ships at once. Each one will drop your target range by -58% and increase your lock time by about +50% so you start out with your shiney BB with a targeting range of say 90km and you lock me and manage to jam me up nice! Not so nice as I activate my kaptyns back and your lock range drops to around 4km with 5 running ouch.
There is a timing issue here because if you jam me first Im screwed. (you need to be fast with jamming) and as such I have Sig anal at lvl 5 and run with 2 F90 for a lock time of 1 second. You lose your lock as my kaps kick in and reduce your target range. I warp jam you and web you and launch 4 torps and fire up my two tachs and in 45 secs your dead :) depending on your range at the start.
Hope that helped some
There is NO viable defense against Kapteyns or Muons apart from running many F90s which are very rare unless your me and I have 7 he he. You would need to run 5 F90s to counter this setup above and no-one takes up med slots with 5 F90s. Jamming is an art and if you come across a ship that knows what he is doing your toast :)
My daily setup alters all the time epspecially if I know who I am hunting I give thought to what they might be running and equip to counter it.
PS
There are loads of players who dont understand PvP or indeed ECM and ECCM that fly BB ships. Finding out your crap when you lose your ship is not the time to learn however :)
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
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Soul Reaver
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2003.10.17 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Reaver on 17/10/2003 14:44:24
Hi ELbereth
This is the low down on ECM and ECCM okie
ECM the ability to jam your opponent. For this you need to use modules that lower his sensor strength. For my scorpion this means you need to lower my Gravi. Problem here for you is that I run sometimes 4 ECCM modules in low slots. This boosts my standard gravi from 16 base to 22. You wont know this until you try and jam me :) I also sometimes run an ECCM1 in a med slot which gives me a further 3 to this for 25 base Gravi!
So say you jam me anyway as you are running like 6 ECM multisepctrals at -4 each for a total jamming strenght of 24. I am only running with say 2 ECCM low slot boosters to gravi giving me 20 base as they are 2 each.
Trouble is I usually run with 5 kapteyn sensor arrays! Sometimes 6 so I can take on two ships at once. Each one will drop your target range by -58% and increase your lock time by about +50% so you start out with your shiney BB with a targeting range of say 90km and you lock me and manage to jam me up nice! Not so nice as I activate my kaptyns back and your lock range drops to around 4km with 5 running ouch.
There is a timing issue here because if you jam me first Im screwed. (you need to be fast with jamming) and as such I have Sig anal at lvl 5 and run with 2 F90 for a lock time of 1 second. You lose your lock as my kaps kick in and reduce your target range. I warp jam you and web you and launch 4 torps and fire up my two tachs and in 45 secs your dead :) depending on your range at the start.
Hope that helped some
There is NO viable defense against Kapteyns or Muons apart from running many F90s which are very rare unless your me and I have 7 he he. You would need to run 5 F90s to counter this setup above and no-one takes up med slots with 5 F90s. Jamming is an art and if you come across a ship that knows what he is doing your toast :)
My daily setup alters all the time epspecially if I know who I am hunting I give thought to what they might be running and equip to counter it.
PS
There are loads of players who dont understand PvP or indeed ECM and ECCM that fly BB ships. Finding out your crap when you lose your ship is not the time to learn however :)
My god Soul were outnumbered again! You can say that again Io. We're in the stickiest situation since Sticky the Stick Insect got stuck on a sticky bun!
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2003.10.29 08:08:00 -
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Indeed Nothing works while target jammed he he :) Which is why I favour dampners over MultiSpecs! As for what the other guy is or is not wearing on his ship? Yes I have literally sat just looking at fitting tyring to decide on a loudout for ages!! I know that feeling. However in my exeperience very very few players you encounter will be equipped for ECM (if at all) Most players apart from your scorpy man will be equipped for max damage!
This is changing with the more seasoned PvPers and Pirates though!!
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
Currently chasing Lianhaun |
Soul Reaver
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2003.10.29 08:08:00 -
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Indeed Nothing works while target jammed he he :) Which is why I favour dampners over MultiSpecs! As for what the other guy is or is not wearing on his ship? Yes I have literally sat just looking at fitting tyring to decide on a loudout for ages!! I know that feeling. However in my exeperience very very few players you encounter will be equipped for ECM (if at all) Most players apart from your scorpy man will be equipped for max damage!
This is changing with the more seasoned PvPers and Pirates though!!
My god Soul were outnumbered again! You can say that again Io. We're in the stickiest situation since Sticky the Stick Insect got stuck on a sticky bun!
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2003.10.30 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Reaver on 30/10/2003 08:18:44
Edited by: Soul Reaver on 30/10/2003 08:15:15
Joephine
Try and learn PvP before commenting eh :) Your blasters would not be able to target me as you would have no target range due to my kapteyns. With 4 on, you would have a range of about 4km.
Your nice FoF missiles would be toast each time I activate my large smart bomb. So now what you gonna do? Lick me to death? Perhaps bump into me huh? Yes you could close range but I will be set to keep range at 15km so unless your much faster thats going to be hard work. You will be dead by the time you get to my hull I can assure you!!
All the while you have 4 torps and two tachs raining on you and you have perhaps 45 secs to live and your relying on FoF missiles LOL.
Please if your going to comment on ECM try and understand what it is and what the modules actually do!!!
Jash
What the hell is that supposed to mean
Poor mans ECM???
Its the best ECM in game at this time. Ah I see what you mean! Unless you sit in fitting really thinking about who your gonna come up against then somehow your a lesser player and or Mortal?
Most players wont have any anyways. As they dont drop anymore and the ones that did are probably all blown to bits in PvP encounters. 6 months of ECM and Im called a poor man because I want to use the best available module in game ROFL
Poor man Indeed..
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
Currently chasing Lianhaun |
Soul Reaver
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2003.10.30 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Reaver on 30/10/2003 08:18:44
Edited by: Soul Reaver on 30/10/2003 08:15:15
Joephine
Try and learn PvP before commenting eh :) Your blasters would not be able to target me as you would have no target range due to my kapteyns. With 4 on, you would have a range of about 4km.
Your nice FoF missiles would be toast each time I activate my large smart bomb. So now what you gonna do? Lick me to death? Perhaps bump into me huh? Yes you could close range but I will be set to keep range at 15km so unless your much faster thats going to be hard work. You will be dead by the time you get to my hull I can assure you!!
All the while you have 4 torps and two tachs raining on you and you have perhaps 45 secs to live and your relying on FoF missiles LOL.
Please if your going to comment on ECM try and understand what it is and what the modules actually do!!!
Jash
What the hell is that supposed to mean
Poor mans ECM???
Its the best ECM in game at this time. Ah I see what you mean! Unless you sit in fitting really thinking about who your gonna come up against then somehow your a lesser player and or Mortal?
Most players wont have any anyways. As they dont drop anymore and the ones that did are probably all blown to bits in PvP encounters. 6 months of ECM and Im called a poor man because I want to use the best available module in game ROFL
Poor man Indeed..
My god Soul were outnumbered again! You can say that again Io. We're in the stickiest situation since Sticky the Stick Insect got stuck on a sticky bun!
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2003.10.31 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Reaver on 31/10/2003 07:41:55
Meet me for 1v1 j0sephine :) Winner takes all.
I will come with my best loadout so plenty of goodies for you if you win! I am on every night and you can find me around Aunenen fighting pirates. I am prepared to put my money in place of my mouth on this issue! Are you??? Bring who you like as a referee..
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
Currently chasing Lianhaun |
Soul Reaver
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2003.10.31 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: Soul Reaver on 31/10/2003 07:41:55
Meet me for 1v1 j0sephine :) Winner takes all.
I will come with my best loadout so plenty of goodies for you if you win! I am on every night and you can find me around Aunenen fighting pirates. I am prepared to put my money in place of my mouth on this issue! Are you??? Bring who you like as a referee..
My god Soul were outnumbered again! You can say that again Io. We're in the stickiest situation since Sticky the Stick Insect got stuck on a sticky bun!
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