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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:18:57 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Don't question it. Just don't.
It doesn't matter anyway. All explanations of EVE-related science can be explained by one thing: quantum physics. Nobody really knows what it is, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with donuts.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2268
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:00:02 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Don't question it. Just don't. It doesn't matter anyway. All explanations of EVE-related science can be explained by one thing: quantum physics. Nobody really knows what it is, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with donuts.
Quantum physics is considered a pseudoscience. But there are lots of cool ideas running around in it. Hell, we just discovered how to make light sabers and energy shields possible, last year. Within the next five to ten years, we may have a stem cell cocktail we can inject into you that will keep you young for hundreds of years. Who's to say this "informorph" stuff isn't right around the corner?
It's honestly only a matter of time before someone's space shuttle "puts a shot across the bow" on someone else's space shuttle over disputed "territory". In all honesty, it will probably be Russia that does it.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
350
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:17:25 -
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Modern artillery shells include rocket motors - they're called rocket assisted projectiles. I would assume that 20,000 years in the future makind could figure out how to do the same thing.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket-assisted_projectile
and:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/m549a1.jpg
Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
345
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Posted - 2014.11.26 17:01:52 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:Now railguns are said to fire the shell directly, while I used to think it fired the shell which shattered on impact I realized not all rail guns had a barrel, more like a blue material energy shoots out of which convinces me it's just firing the contents of the shell yet again at high velocities.
Tracer ammunition (tracers) are bullets or cannon caliber projectiles that are built with a small pyrotechnic charge in their base. Ignited by the burning powder, the pyrotechnic composition burns very brightly, making the projectile visible to the naked eye. This enables the shooter to follow the projectile trajectory to make aiming corrections.
Kinda hard to see a small metal slug wizzing through space at 102397102371073 km/s without them...
Hal Morsh wrote: The problem I have with guns in eve is usage of ammo, projectile weapons only use 1 shell per cycle of machine guns, same with weapons having two barrels
If you look closely you would see there are multiple projectiles fired "per round". Therefore 1 unit of Plasma M is actually a clip/magazine, sort off.
Hal Morsh wrote: Rockets also seem to be the only weapon with a reload animation.
Missiles...
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
6000
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Posted - 2014.11.26 17:16:35 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Quantum physics is considered a pseudoscience.
Maybe when the pseudoscientists try to use it, sure. But I was joking above when I said nobody really knows what it is, I thought that was obvious. I assure you, quantum physics or mechanics is a very real science.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9086
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Posted - 2014.11.26 17:50:48 -
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Don't you ever link that damn site again. I made myself stop going there years ago because it sucks you in like a black hole at the bottom of a giant well slathered in k-y jelly. I want the lest 30 minutes of my life you stole back!
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
161
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Posted - 2014.11.26 18:06:55 -
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A railgun round does bot contain plasma, it contains a core of atoms of a given type Ie uranium rounds contain a core of uranium, think of real life nuclear weapons as a nuclear missile contains a core of uranium rock thats been refined so its pure uranium surrounded by high explosive to start the chain reaction
Blasters just extract this solid core, superheats it into plasma and fires it
As for the rocket assisted artillery rounds, once the shall fires the warhead has a 2nd stage that burns as a rocket increasing the range, and some have fins and a laser system for increase accuracy
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.11.26 18:20:40 -
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The problem that he's pointing out (because he's nitpicking the game) is that autocannons and artillery turrets use the exact same ammo. So if the artillery rounds were rocket-assisted, so would the projectiles that were fired from autocannons. |

stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.11.26 19:17:49 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Hal Morsh wrote:Problem with the railguns is that like I said, a lot of the railguns don't have barrels, the shot just comes out of the tips, or blue material. One of the large railguns doesn't even have the common blue material. So how would anything but the contents be shot? A railgun uses a magnetic field to accelerate the charge, so no need for a barrel. EVE hybrids can use lead rounds. Lead is diamagnetic.
Diamagnetism: "Diamagnetic materials create an induced magnetic field in a direction opposite to an externally applied magnetic field, and are repelled by the applied magnetic field"
tl;dr : EVE's lead railgun rounds fire backwards... Always, and I mean always, remember to reverse the polarity on your railguns before firing a lead round...
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
263
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Posted - 2014.11.26 20:34:57 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote: 'hot, dangerous burny thingy'. Hey now, can we leave my ex out of this?
I thought she was that - cause that's the symptoms you gave her. |
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.11.26 23:40:03 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Hal Morsh wrote:Problem with the railguns is that like I said, a lot of the railguns don't have barrels, the shot just comes out of the tips, or blue material. One of the large railguns doesn't even have the common blue material. So how would anything but the contents be shot? A railgun uses a magnetic field to accelerate the charge, so no need for a barrel. Not entirely true. A railgun still needs a positive and negative rail to make a complete circuit with the projectile, and you need them in close (ish) proximity, dependig on the projectile. In EVE's case, none of the railguns would work effectively, and the Dual 150mm (and any other hybrid that looks like it) wouldn't work at all. |

Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
205
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Posted - 2014.11.26 23:56:13 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Hal Morsh wrote:Problem with the railguns is that like I said, a lot of the railguns don't have barrels, the shot just comes out of the tips, or blue material. One of the large railguns doesn't even have the common blue material. So how would anything but the contents be shot? A railgun uses a magnetic field to accelerate the charge, so no need for a barrel. EVE hybrids can use lead rounds. Lead is diamagnetic. Diamagnetism: "Diamagnetic materials create an induced magnetic field in a direction opposite to an externally applied magnetic field, and are repelled by the applied magnetic field" tl;dr : EVE's lead railgun rounds fire backwards... Always, and I mean always, remember to reverse the polarity on your railguns before firing a lead round...
Oh watching someones guns splode would be awesome.
CCP - Outpost code is scary.
CCP Greyscale - Starbases - They need to look @#$%ing awesome, and people need to want them and
want to be around them and have them and use them and like them and want them and stuff.
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Hicksimus
Volatile Instability Resonance.
439
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Posted - 2014.11.27 01:24:00 -
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I thought this would be a thread about me being able to put the chrome to your dome. I am disappoint.
Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you?
Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1060
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Posted - 2014.11.27 01:32:56 -
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The current animations are representative of a cumulative effect. Just use your imagination for what is not currently rendered.
For me the biggest issue is reloading. In the far future we haven't figured out how to load all our ammo continuously?
Second gripe would be hit registration. Why can't we disable ships? After the shield drops why aren't specific systems (a turret here, a thruster there) destroyed? Once the hull is breached why can't we have a chance to destroy rigs, etc. Space combat is too all or nothing in EvE.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
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Posted - 2014.11.27 02:43:20 -
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Nexus Day wrote:The current animations are representative of a cumulative effect. Just use your imagination for what is not currently rendered.
For me the biggest issue is reloading. In the far future we haven't figured out how to load all our ammo continuously?
Second gripe would be hit registration. Why can't we disable ships? After the shield drops why aren't specific systems (a turret here, a thruster there) destroyed? Once the hull is breached why can't we have a chance to destroy rigs, etc. Space combat is too all or nothing in EvE.
When in hull modules actually DO take damage. It's just too little to make a difference and hes dead anyways. Of course if you somehow managed to active hull remote rep with friends you could have modules shut off after extended preiods of time. But beleive me you do not want module damage. It's part of why I quit world of tanks, just losing my driver every single match and somehow the inability to damage the enemies gun whilst he kills me shooting places to do actual hitpoint damage. It could end up really bad lets just put it that way.
CCP - Outpost code is scary.
CCP Greyscale - Starbases - They need to look @#$%ing awesome, and people need to want them and
want to be around them and have them and use them and like them and want them and stuff.
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Ursula Thrace
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
287
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Posted - 2014.11.27 13:54:57 -
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TIL rail guns are nasty weapons. 
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:24:40 -
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Any weapon of that size is nasty, not just railguns. |

Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:30:27 -
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The simple answer: Guns with multiple barrels fire a number of lower damage shots, proportionate to the number of barrels where the animation shows multiple shots coming out. Weapons with multiple barrels which only show one shot in the animation rotate shots between the barrels. Ammunition is packaged such that for smaller weapons, 1 "Medium charge" represents the number of shells the gun would fire in one cycle, and is done so for convenience of capsuleer use.
As such, there is no discrepency, the game just groups multiple smaller shots per gun into a single calculation, and multiple shells without a charge into a single charge, for our convenience. |

Serene Repose
1662
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:30:03 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Magic. You put magic in one end, do some things, and then magic comes out the other end. Its how everything works in Eve.
It's amazing how many times a day you can be correct. Of course it's magic.
Did you know? If you talk to people with a certain disorder, they just keep talking back.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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