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Will Ambraelle
Mighty Industries The Serenity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:13:25 -
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I request the the state and empire to get rid of this third rate power the minmatar republic. Useless and only allowed to stay because of their gallente counterparts are shielding them from their truth fate for now. |

Dani Dusette
Isogen 5
3246
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:20:43 -
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Pretty sure they've been trying to do exactly that for quite some time, sir.
If you feel so strongly why not join the war effort yourself?
Mizhir: "Dani Dusette, Best Dusette"
Samoth Egnoled: "Make sure you turn yourself often and bathe in your own juices."
ISD Ezwal: "Might I inform you that I am as real as it gets?"
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Will Ambraelle
Mighty Industries The Serenity Initiative
10
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:26:32 -
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Dani Dusette wrote:Pretty sure they've been trying to do exactly that for quite some time, sir.
If you feel so strongly why not join the war effort yourself?
I've been rallying capsulers assistance and have grown large in skilled capsulers I am just requesting the state and empire to do less talk and do more action, a full scale invasion would be sound. |

Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:29:11 -
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The State and Empire are both welcome to make the attempt. I doubt they'd enjoy the sight of the result. Nothing fosters UNITY more than enemies of all. Not that I expect the State to ever be stupid enough to allow their "ally" to tip the balance to the point where they didn't need each other. |

Soren Tyrhanos
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
35
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:33:51 -
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Will Ambraelle wrote:Dani Dusette wrote:Pretty sure they've been trying to do exactly that for quite some time, sir.
If you feel so strongly why not join the war effort yourself?
I've been rallying capsulers assistance and have grown large in skilled capsulers I am just requesting the state and empire to do less talk and do more action, a full scale invasion would be sound.
Repeating the mistakes of the past only serves to suggest we have not learned from them.
In many respects I suggest the Empire is a different place, with differing views on the subject of the Matari insurgency, one that is wiser and more cautious.
War is only one means of conversion, many other exist. Until unity is achieved I supposed it is the duty of the 24th Crusade to safeguard the Empire's borders. |

Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
872
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:41:57 -
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So long as the Republic is permitted to remain as a member of CONCORD there will be no full scale invasions. We are all member states of CONCORD and are bound to interstellar treaties.
If you want the Republic conquered, then it's not the Empire or the State you have to convince. You have to go to the CONCORD Assembly and convince them to permit it. And seeing as CONCORD have done nothing to punish the Republic (or other transgressors) despite repeated violations of CONCORD treaties--including a direct assault on Yulai--I wouldn't expect much results. |

Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4245
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:43:36 -
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Why would you ask the least interventionist power in New Eden to invade the home space of another territory? Setting aside our inability to take and hold that much ground, why would we want to? There are worlds enough in our own corner of space, thanks.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
269
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Posted - 2014.11.26 02:31:24 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Why would you ask the least interventionist power in New Eden to invade the home space of another territory? Setting aside our inability to take and hold that much ground, why would we want to? There are worlds enough in our own corner of space, thanks.
The Empire should want to because we outnumber the filthy Republic four to one and because the most famous sentence in our entire voluminous Scriptures is this:
The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13 wrote: I give to you the destiny of Faith, And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given.
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
4081
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Posted - 2014.11.26 03:34:38 -
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Let's see, on the one hand there's an inventive and vibrant culture whose ships are competitive with the State's best despite running off older technology whose technical experience, expertise and sheer guile that was hard-won in the theatre of a vicious war for survival that could prove to be an excellent investment and trading opportunity for the Caldari.
And on the other hand we have helping destroy that culture.
What exactly is in it for us?
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Tyrel Toov
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2014.11.26 03:38:22 -
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Well, hello to you too, neighbor. Did our Fedo **** on your lawn perchance?
trying to type all this on a broken phone at work sucks.
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Tyrel Toov
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2014.11.26 03:43:33 -
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Stitcher wrote: What exactly is in it for us?
Death, property damage, death, resourse consumption, death, The loss of potental allys, and death.... on all sides.
trying to type all this on a broken phone at work sucks.
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Kellie Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
2750
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Posted - 2014.11.26 03:48:34 -
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Many much hate for ears.
Much lovely respect all pilot fight any side battle, but wonder for me how not all get along for just live happy and accept?
Make for better of all people's types, share most beautiful thing from cultures. I know not easy for make but should try.
Noob Alt | Special Dusette | Silly Robot Arm
Collect all 4 Dusette Action Figures. (Now available in Thukker Tribe Edition)
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4245
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Posted - 2014.11.26 06:18:58 -
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Nauplius wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Why would you ask the least interventionist power in New Eden to invade the home space of another territory? Setting aside our inability to take and hold that much ground, why would we want to? There are worlds enough in our own corner of space, thanks. The Empire should want to because we outnumber the filthy Republic four to one and because the most famous sentence in our entire voluminous Scriptures is ...
Right, we all get why you guys would want to. Why would the State?
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Anslo
Scope Works
22624
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Posted - 2014.11.26 06:49:46 -
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Haha wat
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
381
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Posted - 2014.11.26 07:10:03 -
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Ignoring the obvious political issues, the Republic Fleet is specialized towards and known for fast paced guerilla warfare, and the Caldari Navy is specialized towards and known for slow but extremely effective defensive tactics. Not really... Designed for eachother, so to speak.
The State invading the Republic would be rather like a bear chasing a hornet. Vaguely embarassing for everyone involved, and with little actually getting done. It would probably be a rare event for anyone to even force an engagement. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1445
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Posted - 2014.11.26 07:24:55 -
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The creation of the Republic and allowing it to join the CONCORD was a mistake in the first place. I guess it must be fixed by applying some force.
But for this to happen, first the Federation must be destroyed. And then the Republic will collapse either by itself, or will be crushed by the Imperial forces. |

Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
323
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Posted - 2014.11.26 08:03:55 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:And seeing as CONCORD have done nothing to punish the Republic (or other transgressors) despite repeated violations of CONCORD treaties--including a direct assault on Yulai--I wouldn't expect much results.
My people's participation in the glorious assault of Yulai reduced to "other transgressors"... in brackets... so typical.
We are rarely credited for the part we played, even by the Republic itself, who are all too keen to laud their own Fleet up for it.
It's no wonder it's so hard to find love for the Republic in the caravans.
Karynn Denton
Caravan Master
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
872
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Posted - 2014.11.26 08:08:00 -
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Actually I consider the Thukker included with the Republic, in that statement. And even if they weren't, as far as I am aware the Thukker were never part of CONCORD prior to their joining the Republic and so wouldn't have been subject to its policies or protections.
My 'others' comment refers to similar violations by other, non-Matari CONCORD signatories, who have likewise not received any punishment for their illegal conduct. |

Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
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Posted - 2014.11.26 08:17:41 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Actually I consider the Thukker part of the Republic, in that statement. And even if they weren't, as far as I am aware the Thukker were never part of CONCORD prior to their joining the Republic and so wouldn't have been subject to its policies.
The Thukker are part of the Republic in name only. They have absolutely no jurisdiction over us, legal or otherwise.
It is because we retain our independence that we are not signatories to CONCORD; in that respect, you are correct.
Karynn Denton
Caravan Master
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Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient
413
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Posted - 2014.11.26 12:25:36 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Nauplius wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Why would you ask the least interventionist power in New Eden to invade the home space of another territory? Setting aside our inability to take and hold that much ground, why would we want to? There are worlds enough in our own corner of space, thanks. The Empire should want to because we outnumber the filthy Republic four to one and because the most famous sentence in our entire voluminous Scriptures is ... Right, we all get why you guys would want to. Why would the State?
You said "We" in your previous post, Pieter.
You're in the Amarrian militia.
GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á
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Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient
413
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Posted - 2014.11.26 12:27:11 -
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Karynn Denton wrote:Samira Kernher wrote:Actually I consider the Thukker part of the Republic, in that statement. And even if they weren't, as far as I am aware the Thukker were never part of CONCORD prior to their joining the Republic and so wouldn't have been subject to its policies. The Thukker are part of the Republic in name only. They have absolutely no jurisdiction over us, legal or otherwise. It is because we retain our independence that we are not signatories to CONCORD; in that respect, you are correct.
Why, why do so many of my kin howl and gnash their teeth at the Republic? Is unity of purpose and direction truly so distasteful to all of you?
GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á
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Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
51
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:24:26 -
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Rejoice in the fact that they are free to do so. Unity of purpose does not require slavish adherence to banners and borders. |

Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
323
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Posted - 2014.11.26 13:31:10 -
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Kyllsa Siikanen wrote: Why, why do so many of my kin howl and gnash their teeth at the Republic? Is unity of purpose and direction truly so distasteful to all of you?
Revered Shaman, I don't speak for all Thukker, but I believe my feelings are held by many. If I may offer just a few reasons...
The Republic offers very little to our tribe, itself fragmented without common purpose or direction, each caravan forging its own path. This is our way.
The thought of our our proud tribe sitting as equals amongst Nefantar and Starkmanir is... unattractive, to put it lightly.
And we are free traders; the Republic would seek to limit that by dictating what we can trade and who with.
Further to that, we are also free in a political and cultural sense. My poem in the recent edition New Eden Life will give you an insight into our culture and sums up how many of us feel on these issues.
In short, Revered Shaman, the Republic simply cannot offer us a better way of life, despite its insistence that it can.
Ancestors walk with you.
Karynn Denton
Caravan Master
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
1795
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Posted - 2014.11.26 18:02:31 -
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I request that stupid people stop posting stupidly. (OP) Thanks.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1446
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Posted - 2014.11.26 18:12:15 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:I request that stupid people stop posting stupidly. (OP) Thanks. Then follow your request and stop posting. |

Kalaratiri
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
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Posted - 2014.11.26 18:21:26 -
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Everyone stop posting.
Please.
She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.
This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. -á- CCP Falcon
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4247
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Posted - 2014.11.27 06:35:44 -
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Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Nauplius wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Why would you ask the least interventionist power in New Eden to invade the home space of another territory? Setting aside our inability to take and hold that much ground, why would we want to? There are worlds enough in our own corner of space, thanks. The Empire should want to because we outnumber the filthy Republic four to one and because the most famous sentence in our entire voluminous Scriptures is ... Right, we all get why you guys would want to. Why would the State? You said "We" in your previous post, Pieter. You're in the Amarrian militia.
I'm a Kaalakiotaa citizen working for a Private Military Contractor that is currently under contract with the 24th IC. Ask the Empire if I'm part of the Empire. Most of them would be fairly shocked at the idea of a foreign mercenary getting such airs and graces. And then they'd pull that face.
You know the one. The one like there's a dead fish hidden in one of the airvents.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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