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eveceo1 Gallente Revival.	Posted - 2006.09.02 05:35:00 - [1] Yes, im going to run the risk of getting a warning for this, but it seems like the only way to voice my opinion. This is not in referance to any 'single' act of moderation but to the overall moderation of this sub-forum. In my honest oppinion, not that alot of people care, i think this sub-forum is overmoderated to the point of making it stagnant. Back in the days of the forum-fights of CA/M0o/SA/etc... moderators would let everyone vent their thoughts/spleens as much as need be to make a thread:- a) worth reading b) fun c) constructive even if said thread included some chest-beating/spam/whorage. Now- any of the previous and a thread is locked. If the topic gets derailed slightly, its locked, if the mod is on PMS its locked... So this is my plee to everyone, let the mods know of this overmoderation. I hope this is seen in a constructive light and not insta-locked. P.S I love the 'No alt' rule now _______________ Yar!Ö
Shittake RONA Deepspace Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.09.02 05:58:00 - [2] While "over-moderation" is their right (since CCP owns the boards and has the right to do whatever they want with them), I must agree - some of the numb-nut forum mods need to be nerfed - that's right, I called them "numb nut forum mods". While there are some reasonable forum mods in the bunch, there's a new batch of idiots who seem to have a quick "clicky" finger and a god complex. Personally, if I were CCP, I would want constructive criticism, and perhaps even non-constructive criticism because those "non-constructive" types can be forum-pwned easily by the mods/devs. CCP, fire the stupid kids with an ego and hire more adult forum mods please.
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.09.02 06:18:00 - [3] the no alt rule is great, but now they lock anything that closely resembles a rant. it is complete bull**. Let some chestbeating go on, let the flamewars ensue, don't be a about it BTW, i am ed tonight, so ** off
jbob2000 Gallente The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.02 06:18:00 - [4] the stupidest type of lock is: "This is GOING to degenerate into flames, so lets lock it now and avoid everything" whiskey...tango...foxtrot.... EVERY THREAD IN THIS FORUM DEGENERATES INTO FLAMES!
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.02 06:22:00 - [5] FREE THE HIPPOKING!!!! (And Jade Constantine too!!!!) seriously, their smack didn't stink..... snip This type of comment has no place in a signature, please remain courteous - Pirlouit
ChefAce Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.02 06:23:00 - [6] Forkin alt keeps taking over my posts!!!!! -------------
Sinestra Clament	Posted - 2006.09.02 06:23:00 - [7] Lockdown in 5 4 3 2 . . . . . . . . . .
Temerlyn Minmatar STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.02 06:25:00 - [8] After years of service Eris got her promotion to join ccp at their offices and help make this game. Now all these forum mod junkies want to make their name on the community in a vain hope to get recognized by ccp as well. Frankly, we want eris back, she was never this bad. Hardest part though is freedom of speech vs freedom of pointless posts.
Sakura Nihil Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.02 06:37:00 - [9] Its the old question of "are they going to likely do something against the rules? lock the thread" vs. "whoops, they just smacked, lets clean up the thread and do some warnings". Stop with the thread locking please, all we need is the no alts rule, maybe a quick cleaning if there is a random flame or two, and a thread nuking if a flamewar erupts. Not a lock on anything that might be considered a hot-button issue; after all, this is where corps and alliances come to discuss things, don't expect all discussions to be like "Sir Reginold, I believe that the wait staff found a*****roach in the kitchen today! Good dear!"... I'm tired, forgive the example. Whorum Skills ftw! I like cheese - Xorus
Audrea Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2006.09.02 07:07:00 - [10] Indeed, chest-beating/spam/whorage/smack is part of the forums, just like piracy is part of the game, and CCP deosnt take stance to either support or not any of these ways. The mods should not either. just let it be That goes especially to the devil, he knows who he is ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
War Bear Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.02 07:21:00 - [11] The sad thing is that this thread will be locked same as all the other ones because it's against the rules. Can't even have a discussion about things like this any more. The mods lock it before we can, as a group, get a concensus. HOWEVER, if we want to "discuss" it we can send in a mail where it will have the weight of only one insignificant player behind it. It'll be read (briefly), forwarded to the rant department where it'll be shot down, replied to with a canned message of something between apathy and "don't argue with us" then sent off to the round file to be forgotten. I appreciate the mods cleaning up certain things. Racist remarks. Overly rude sexual comments. Swearing just for the sake of swearing. Sure, go for it. Ranting and verbally slapping someone silly, especially in this forum where drama is the name of the game is unwanted, unneeded overkill. Anyways, hopefully this'll make it in before the lock. Welcome to 1984. No matter where you go, there you are.
Leo McGarry Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.02 07:38:00 - [12] I agree with WarBear. Unfortunately, this thread will probably be 'disappeared' :( You know the sad thing is when I chat in game or whatever I can't think of a single person who has ever said "Yeah, I agree with the no discussion about moderation rule" or "I think the mods are too lax!" Everyone says that threads get locked for stupid things far too quickly, "This thread could turn into a flame fest. Locked." Absolutely every thread can out this way. Oh no! Someone linked to a killmail - this is an outrage quick lets lock the thread! GO! GO! GO! The great thing is that this happens even when its essential to the thread - like when someone asked about Farjung losing his faction BS.
Willis Drummond Lordless Unbrella Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.02 07:40:00 - [13] The reality to me is that a lot of the fun of this game comes from this forum. Blow up someone's ship ten times and they may or may not care. Make a post about it once and the egos come out. And it's healthy for the game. A bunch of alliances sitting everywhere just getting rich is boring and ends with people canceling their subscriptions. Give someone a good rivalry stemming from a forum war and things get really interesting. Mostly I'm just a drama junkie and without threads to read about LV/RA, etc, it gets boring. I've never made an anonymous alt post, but life was more interesting when they were around. Most people are really, really bad at posting 'anonymously' and it's pretty obvious which side they're on. Awesome Post# 166264
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.02 07:41:00 - [14] Maybe they should spend less time in this section as it is more or less self policing and go hit up the market forums. You have some gold farmer spamming bogus GTC sales non-stop. Not too mention I've seen the same losers putting orders for selling isk on our own forums! These posts stay up for hours at a time. CCP, redirect your resources where they are needed please and stop over-policing the one 'fun' section of the forums.
Dekiri Useless Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.02 07:47:00 - [15] The mods basically destroy anything that is interesting or that could involve a bit of arguing. It is sad, because this is something that is really interesting to read. Also some of the "off topic" locks are also a joke. I really think they are overdoing it EXTREMLY and should slow down a lot on thier locks. I know noone who likes what the mods are doing here. I like the alt rule, but everything else is WAY to much. I think everyone with a non alt char who posts something here should be able to and unless it has inappropiate content or is COMPLETLY off topic it should stay. And by inappropiate content i mean racist, ****ographic or extremly violent content. -------------- My dad can beat up your dad! Support lowsec!
Amthrianius Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.02 08:27:00 - [16] Hi Aneu ---------------
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.02 08:44:00 - [17] I sense clickage inbound. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Major Dim Caldari Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.02 08:54:00 - [18] ./ signed - let us flame a bit.
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.09.02 08:57:00 - [19] Anytime a thread gets into the viewpoint of being very unmoral outlook it should get locked. People should keep their comments and such professional no matter where they go. People get emotional over these things written here and a whole new brand of egotism is created. there are young folks playing the game and what example of accetable behavior are we setting for them as 'mature' players. granted some of the locking could be unwarrented, but so are some of the flames too where people seem to thrive to live in some kind of spot light negative or positive by putting others down. Its just inappropriate in general and probably that is what is not wanted here. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
Rodge Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.02 09:03:00 - [20] Originally by: Sergeant Spot (And Jade Constantine too!!!!) I used to read Jade's posts back when I was a n00b (some would say, I never got past that level....) I loved the fact that someone could care soooo much about the game and put an incredibly eloquent post up about current affairs. tbh, seeing those posts were a contributor to me actually signing up for a full account (and as now - 4 accounts....). I don't want to discuss Jade's forum ban, but I think the forums are missing something without Jade's particular interpretation and commentary on events (I know we have Jasmine now, but it's not the same ). That type of in-depth RP commentary is what this board sadly lacks, yet is what this board should be full of in my opinion. Still, this post is destined for a lock, as you can't discuss moderation Sig inappropriate-not eve related -Abdalion [ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
UnBorn Dead Gallente Drones of Annihilation	Posted - 2006.09.02 09:09:00 - [21] agreed most of the peps i know wont even waste the time to post to post anymore and some of us have prtty much stoped reading them as they all get locked the mods are way outa hand The mods need mods to stop them this will get locked soon im surprised its still open imho Hope someone important from ccp see's this to get somthing done
Drilla Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.02 10:02:00 - [22] These forums havnt been the same since the happy hippo went away ... That makes me a saaaad panda Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Leilani Solaris Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.09.02 10:06:00 - [23] I agree. Moderation 4tw, Overmoderation 4tl, nerf the mods.
Death Becomes	Posted - 2006.09.02 10:17:00 - [24] Dare i say it.. If you have an issue with the mods, email em? Overmoderation is CAUSED by people spamming the forums. Dont spam, dont get modded :)
CelticKnight Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.02 10:19:00 - [25] Sorry.. DBs my alt :( Im dont have a sig.
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.02 10:24:00 - [26] Originally by: Death Becomes Dare i say it.. If you have an issue with the mods, email em? Overmoderation is CAUSED by people spamming the forums. Dont spam, dont get modded :) What an overly simplistic view.
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.02 10:28:00 - [27] Originally by: ****take CCP, fire the stupid kids with an ego and hire more adult forum mods please. If you get banned for your mindless bashing, you will be highly regretted ____________________ Darko1107 > does anything in ascn space have tech II fittings? Quillan Rage > Iron ships
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.02 10:34:00 - [28] I think the mods do an excellent job. Keep it up. (This coming from sum1 who has been banned twice). ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.02 10:37:00 - [29] Lol you people are never happy. I think the forums are stagnant because there is nothing happening in game, if you miss the flame wars started by alts, you shouldnt have whined so much for them to get nerfed. About all the thread locked "because they will degenerate into a flamefest" well most the times its true, and you dont want them open because you are looking for constructive posts but because you wanna munch your pop corns and watch everyone flaming each other. - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.02 10:43:00 - [30] I'm in 2 minds myself although I do agree the mods sometimes are very heavy handed on certain stuff they also let alot of stuff go. Its just you get certain mods who just lock anything that even looks like flamebait or the such they just need to alittle less trigger happy All in all the mods to a pretty good job I think most people will agree esp compared to other game forums, with regards to hippoking you get 10 warnings before you get banned so its his own fault and his spamming of posts was just annoying. Anyhow this thread will get locked at soon as a mod wakes up
Edoo Occassus Republica Process of Elimination	Posted - 2006.09.02 11:05:00 - [31] I was suprised about how heavily moderated the eve forums were as soon as i started eve.
Tuang Pao The-Wrath	Posted - 2006.09.02 11:23:00 - [32] I prefer strong moderation. It encourages the players to keep their posts civil. If you want to see what a revolting circus a forum with weak moderation becomes go to Blizzard's WoW player forums.
Zooish	Posted - 2006.09.02 11:23:00 - [33] Edited by: Zooish on 02/09/2006 11:23:57 The main issue is ........ that in the past the forum fights were what made this game special ..... People were pulled to one side and asked to calm down but mostly they let the Mo0-FE-Jericho Faction-Evol etc etc fights go ahead as it added to the game ... instead of "we just killed a ship". After Pann left (woot she's back) the moderation took a more dark side .... before, the moderation was done by people who realized that half the forum posters were people who helped the game through Beta A-B-C etc etc when there was only several hundred people playing, testing and spending hours upon hours helping CCP. (yes CCP you seem to have forgot that without these same people maybe Eve wouldn't be the hit it is). It totally insane that people have been "silenced" when half their strikes have been through "incorrect signature size" when you changed the rules daily. Its also mad that these same people have been banned for years but your more than happy to take your dollars, pounds, euros etc etc .... Maybe you need to allow the feeling and passion back into the forums and maybe as half these people helped make CCP the success it is today a forum amnesty would be in order.
Stockarian eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.02 11:27:00 - [34] No alts = less flame. I think the mods are doing a great job. The threads are actually readable now, without all the alts and/or their flames. The forum can be full of smacking, troll garbage or not...you can't have it both ways. Quitcherwhinin'. Athelas Loraiel > "This isn't a fleet, we're only the appetizer." Cheers, Stock
dalman Finite Auxiliary	Posted - 2006.09.02 11:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Stockarian No alts = less flame. I think the mods are doing a great job. The threads are actually readable now, without all the alts and/or their flames. The forum can be full of smacking, troll garbage or not...you can't have it both ways. Quitcherwhinin'. The no alts rule is great. But back in the days, people posted with their mains in a completely different way than now. This forum now is nothing like it was back in 2003. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Ghitza Backup Squad	Posted - 2006.09.02 11:33:00 - [36] signed
Audrea Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2006.09.02 12:04:00 - [37] I would bet that all those who praised the work mods do in this thread, are their alts (or rather, mains of their mod alts ) They are mostly close minded, who dont like criticism. The rule of no alts is fine and acceptable, but other than that - as long as posts are made with main chars, dont include racism/personal in****s etc -the mods should shut up and sit aside, and not intervene in what is PART of the game! Also, if this thread is to be locked - it cant be by the mods. it would be conflict of interests. the only ones who have the right to lock it are the devs. ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.

Ulynidd Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.02 12:37:00 - [38] Originally by: eveceo1 Yes, im going to run the risk of getting a warning for this, but it seems like the only way to voice my opinion. Wrong. Just like everybody else does, you can email us. Originally by: eveceo1 This is not in referance to any 'single' act of moderation but to the overall moderation of this sub-forum. In my honest oppinion, not that alot of people care, i think this sub-forum is overmoderated to the point of making it stagnant. Back in the days of the forum-fights of CA/M0o/SA/etc... moderators would let everyone vent their thoughts/spleens as much as need be to make a thread:- a) worth reading b) fun c) constructive even if said thread included some chest-beating/spam/whorage. Now- any of the previous and a thread is locked. If the topic gets derailed slightly, its locked, if the mod is on PMS its locked... When a person posts an achievement on this forum, it saddens me that so many people straight away post with such things as, "so what who cares?", "yawn", "you had to post this?", "blah blah", "great!! well done noob" and so on and so forth. "back in the days" of the forum fights of "CA/M0o/SA/etc" there was not by any stretch of the imagination as many forum users as there are right now, and a lot of moderation was done even back then, I should know I was doing it. The difference now is that with so many more people rising to flamebait, a thread can quickly spiral out of control with pointless arguing. We try to keep a thread alive as long as possible if the original post is not flamebait. Just for the record, I also like to read the intrigue and politics which goes on in this forum, but once it steps over into pointless name calling, flaming, accusations of exploits, ebaying .. it has to stop. If when you posted you stuck to the forum rules the main forum rules have not changed much in 3 years, threads would not need to be moderated, and the discourse could continue. Thats all I have to say about this and please be aware we dont like locking threads. Originally by: eveceo1 P.S I love the 'No alt' rule now _____________________________ Ulynidd Lead Forum Moderator [ Forum Rules ]


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