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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1453
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:00:34 -
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Two days ago Brigadier General Odo Korachi has reported unusual Sansha activity in Oasa region, and the next day capsuleer explorer Caroline Grace ventured there to investigate Nation's activity.
Yesterday about 1830 time explorer Caroline Grace has reported an unusual celestial object into Intergalactic Summit NeoCom conference, and at 1957 UTC she has reported it in this forum here
This celestial object has a distinguishable feature: its flares mostly directed in vertical plane, while lens flares for suns and other bright objects are dominantly in horizontal plane.
Caroline Grace has made a camera shot, where the object's flares don't turn together with camera, like lens flares of other object (proof goes here).
This object was also found in New Eden system (as reported by Jaret Victorian).
Many other capsuleers were observing this object from numerous systems in our cluster.
Analyzing this, we can make following conclusions:
1) The flares of the object aren't lens effect, but properties of the object, which make it look like either an active black hole consuming matter with relativistic jets from poles (vertical flares) and accretion disk (horizontal flares), or supernova
2) The supernova hypothesis is barely confirmable, as the object have been seen through very distant systems (our cluster is about 100 light years in size), thus if it was a supernova, it would be observed from different systems at different stages, but pictures from all the system are identical, which means that the celestial object Caroline's star maintains this form for at least 100 years. Black holes can consume matter for even longer periods of time.
3) The object is in fact quite old (about 100 years - if it is visible from all systems in our cluster), and is probably the same one, as has been referenced by Lieutenant Samira Kernher here |
Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox
Low-Class
210
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:15:57 -
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Isogen-5
It was isogen-5 last time.
*violent muffled noises in the background* snooze you damn thing, i know i haven't taken it for 72 hours! |
Joanne Breau
Sleeper Slumber Party
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:24:35 -
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Additionally, comparisons between pictures from yesterday and pictures from today show that the phenomenon has grown brighter and bigger.
There are theories going about that this is a FTL event, as it wasn't noticeable anywhere in New Eden last week and is now visible across the whole cluster. |
Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
112
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:30:40 -
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There is another possibility for how this object became visible across all of New Eden. It is emitting some form of FTL radiation. As this radiation travels, some of it decays into visible light that is emitted in the same direction of travel as the original radiation. The entire cluster became flooded with this radiation at about the same time, so we all see it. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1456
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:30:57 -
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FTL event won't let light to spread faster than it spreads. Information can go FTL. Somehow that signal to Isogen-5, that it should go boom, traveled FTL. We through gates and wormholes travel FTL, warp drives work on FTL speeds.
But light is light, light can't spread faster than light, because it is damn light, and it has its damn speed, about 3x10^8 meters per second. |
Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
4
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:35:57 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Isogen-5
It was isogen-5 last time.
*violent muffled noises in the background* snooze you damn thing, i know i haven't taken it for 72 hours!
I too think that it is isogen-5 |
Joanne Breau
Sleeper Slumber Party
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:37:39 -
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It's not uncommon to see strange phenomena in New Eden, if the event itself could "push" light beyond its own maximum speed, it would become visible across the cluster. |
Anslo
Scope Works
The Blacklist.
22635
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:44:33 -
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Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.
Be ready.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
112
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:52:58 -
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I'm sure we do not know of every phenomenon that can travel faster than light. My theory still works: FTL radiation is being emitted by... whatever..., travels throughout the cluster. Along the way some decays into light. When it does so in your solar system, you can see the light, right away. The travel distance is no longer an issue as the vast majority of the distance is traversed at FTL speeds. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1456
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:04:44 -
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Physics, Ms. Ma'chello.
If there would be FTL radiation, decaying into light, first, amount of this radiation should be rather colossal, and second, it should decay constanly on its way to create image of the Caroline's star in multiple points.
Imagine you have two FTL particles, one decays at point A, second decays at point B. We register first light from point A, while light from FTL particle decayed at point B should travel A-B distance, thus it will get to observer later than particle A.
Thus we will have two images of the object at the same time. If there are more particles, that decay at different times, we will get multiple snapshots of the object, and thus on camera and on the sky the object would appear as having a blurred 'tail', as it moves (or as we move together with system in the cluster). It then would appear more like a comet. |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc.
Illusion of Solitude
1398
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:31:14 -
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Very strange, what we are witnessing is by all the known laws of physics clearly impossibe.
However it is happening.
Any theory or hypothesis when encountering an occurence that contradicts it, requires us to either revise or disregard the hypothesis.
So the lesson of the last two days, is that we have made some significant errors in our scientific understanding.
Hopefully we can learn from them and learn the truth before something unfortunate happens we lack the knowledge to counter.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
878
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:58:45 -
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Reposting in this thread regarding the waves made by--and the equivalent lack of explanation of--the Bright Star's last appearance 6 years ago, as I believe it's important to keep in mind.
The last star heralded the most momentous events of the last decade, which included the holy resurrection of Her Imperial Majesty, armed with a godly weapon, along with the Malkalen attack, the assault on CONCORD, the start of the Empyrean War, and so on. The Seyllin Incident happened exactly one year later. Notably, the Bright Star disappeared in early March of YC110, and the Seyllin Incident happened on March 10th of YC111.
We can try to understand how this star can be, but we shouldn't get lost studying the lighthouse and so miss the ship steaming towards shore. God has given us this star is a sign of things to come. Mr. Tetua understands this, at least. |
Mecanos
The Idiot Kings
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
0
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Posted - 2014.11.27 19:59:59 -
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My Gratitude to Caroline Grace as she passed through the systems i live the last 6 years and brought to my attention with extraordinay passion the details of her research about the Bright Star.
I was just staring at this Bright phenomenon while traveling through Vale of the silent region, but now i think i got overwhelmed by it.
My exploration ship is now called Caroline Star and here are some images i captured from Vale of the silent region at certain systems which they are full of Jovian Aura.
http://imgur.com/KJA7og3
http://imgur.com/dem5tJw
excuse my poor input, but im in space more than 15hours at this moment, this was more of a thank you capsuleers out there, that keep the spirit of adventure alive and the pure curiosity that leads to giant leaps... in space. |
Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
4
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:08:16 -
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Quote:IGÇÖm frankly baffled. The information weGÇÖve been able to gather from this anomaly is in some respects suggestive of a core collapse supernova but there is simply no way in which the light would be visible in every system of the cluster. It is there. It is manifesting faster than light. It should not be possible.
Wolls Obraio, Professor of Astrophysics at Caille University
Really Interesting..
Anslo wrote:Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.
Be ready.
This. and just do not underestime the unknown.
I as a scientist also believe in the prohecies. I gathered a lot of finding related to the star. Will publish them soon. |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
The Blacklist.
87
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:10:18 -
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Anslo wrote:Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.
Be ready.
Is this really something to be that worried about? I'd rather be safe than sorry but still....... Can we safely say were at danger? |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Imperial Outlaws.
4250
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:30:45 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Anslo wrote:Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.
Be ready. Is this really something to be that worried about? I'd rather be safe than sorry but still....... Can we safely say were at danger?
The last time something like this happened we were introduced to the Sleepers and the Wormholes opened (plus explosions). The time before this... Well, there used to be a gate in the New Eden system that possibly linked to an ancestral homeworld that we're all descended from...
It is fairly safe to say that we're probably looking more at something like the former rather than the latter but, personally, I'm making sure that my personnel are moved to self-sufficient systems, in case the jumpgate system collapses. If it does, I'm activating my softclone in Highsec.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works
The Blacklist.
87
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:37:23 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Anslo wrote:Just be ready. Be alert. Be on guard. Most importantly, be ready to react, to any possible threat. When I say threat I do not refer to petty political disputes. I refer to threats to us all, humans, regardless of race.
Be ready. Is this really something to be that worried about? I'd rather be safe than sorry but still....... Can we safely say were at danger? The last time something like this happened we were introduced to the Sleepers and the Wormholes opened (plus explosions). The time before this... Well, there used to be a gate in the New Eden system that possibly linked to an ancestral homeworld that we're all descended from... It is fairly safe to say that we're probably looking more at something like the former rather than the latter but, personally, I'm making sure that my personnel are moved to self-sufficient systems, in case the jumpgate system collapses. If it does, I'm activating my softclone in Highsec.
So, ya..... I think Its a safe bet then....... Looks like its time to pick up a few more ships.....
Thanks for clarifying that for me Pieter. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1457
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:46:57 -
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Oh, sweet Maker.
Now even scientists have no freaking idea, what is going on, what would you expect from just a soldier like me...
THANKS, CAROLINE GRACE, FOR BREAKING OUR PHYSICS... I'll go home drinking my tea.
Ah, one more thing. During one particular physics lesson, our teacher was showing us, why the casuality principle exists, and that the quants of space can form continuous fabric of space-time only with this principle. If it becomes broken, space turns into a sponge and collapses.
We have built stargates. We made warp drives, and now it's time for the Universe itself to return at us, with fabric of spacetime collapsing on our eyes. First, wormholes appearing everywhere. Now that star, appearing in every solar system.
Does anyone care to make calculations until we all collapse into a singularity, eh? |
Anslo
Scope Works
The Blacklist.
22638
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:48:44 -
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Just have everyone equipped Dess. And I mean everyone.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works
The Blacklist.
89
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:53:31 -
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Will do, believe me that's not a problem... |
Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp
Ocularis Inferno
185
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:59:25 -
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I started a repository of sightings on an unmonitored feed yesterday. Unsure why I did not also save the information here.
I will continue to update the feed as more information is available - currently the Bright Star is believed to be physically located in VYX2-I , N-K4Q0, or REZ-YZ in the BS8-ZQ constellation (credit to Joethemachine). W477-P in UUA-4 is also possible, and numerous reports have supported that system as the location.
I will update the repository as I can.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1119
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:19:11 -
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To give people a bit of an update & a possible link to an older event involving a bright Star as well, I ran this publication:
Strange bright star appears in the sky across New Eden!
If the link would be true between the bright Star event & wormholes, we might see some very interesting things in the future. However if new wormholes don't appear in the future, then the Bright star phenomenons just happened to be a coincidence and I was wrong in my hypothesis.
Celebrating a decade: Ushra'Khan
YC116 Sleeper data research race: Tech 3 destroyers unveiled! (Updated)
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1458
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:35:38 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
The last time something like this happened we were introduced to the Sleepers and the Wormholes opened (plus explosions). The time before this... Well, there used to be a gate in the New Eden system that possibly linked to an ancestral homeworld that we're all descended from...
Caldari Prime?  |
Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
5722
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:30:54 -
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Taraki Orani wrote:Jade Blackwind wrote:Isogen-5
It was isogen-5 last time.
*violent muffled noises in the background* snooze you damn thing, i know i haven't taken it for 72 hours! I too think that it is isogen-5
While it's true we posess some of the brightest stars (and biggest anomolies) in the galaxy none of us are smart enough to pull off a stunt like this.
Though I'm sure Lotor appreciates the free publicity.
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
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Aiko Ueshiba
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:31:56 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
The last time something like this happened we were introduced to the Sleepers and the Wormholes opened (plus explosions). The time before this... Well, there used to be a gate in the New Eden system that possibly linked to an ancestral homeworld that we're all descended from...
Caldari Prime?
What can I add to this? Not much, but what I've observed. This morning, I went out on patrol and there was a new star in my sky. This star was only visible elsewhere yesterday and nowhere last year. So while I don't believe physics is broken, I think our understanding of it is.
I know that even a new pilot like me is finding it ridiculously easy to find wormholes in The Forge.
I know this phenomena is visible here in Saisio, visible in Jita, visible from New Caldari.
Some of you say this could pose a threat? I don't think it is time to panic yet, but a little prudence and preparation couldn't hurt.
That's all I can add.
"... I assume that any work which engages with the future must necessarily consist of fragments of the past; any vision we have of the future is necessarily built of our experience to the moment in which we conceive of the vision." W. Gibson.
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
34
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:34:20 -
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Well, Doctor Cassira said it right. This thing makes no sence from the point of science. Anything can happen.
And it's almost as bright as the sun already. I think we all can agree that we should prepare for unforeseen consequences. |
Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
147
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:46:32 -
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A question:
Is not the speed of light defined as distance traveled over time through a medium?
Isn't that how we are able to get around the speed of light in our ships on a routine basis? We generate a warp field ( and therefor a unique medium ) that allows megatons of solid matter to travel at speeds that exceed the apparent speed limit outside of the field?
Is it so strange to imagine a stellar event so energetic that it projects a similar field, one allowing for an apparent acceleration of near-massless photons to super-relativistic speeds?
This is, of course, the second time this has happened. We are obviously not looking at a unique phenomenon.
The Bright Star event of Y110 manifested in exactly the same way: as an ultra-energetic celestial visible simultaneously from all parts of the New Eden cluster. BSE110 disregarded the apparent laws of physics and the speed of light then, just as BSE116 is doing now. Whatever laws of physics we believe were and are being broken with BSE110 and now BSE116, the simple fact remains that a basic property of our universe is being demonstrated to us again, regardless of whether or not we understand it.
And of course, there is the theoretical ( because correlation does not equal causation ) side-effect of BSE110: the destabilization of local space allowing for the spontaneous formation of wormholes to other regions of space. Whether or not we will experience similar ( or possibly accelerated ) destabilization of local space is, in my opinion, the greater question at hand.
Let us not get so bound up in the argument over the 'how and why it happened' that we ignore the 'what do we do next if it happens the same way again?'
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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Solanus Omaristos
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
20
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:53:00 -
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I have been wondering what the new star in the Catch region is. And I can further confirm that the star is getting brighter.#
This is an image of the anomaly taken 24 hours ago. As you can see here, Caroline's star is barely noticable.
This is an image of the anomaly taken 2 hours ago. It has grown in brightness and is just about visible.
For those struggling to make the star out, look at the bottom left of the Scalding Pass nebula.
I am very interested as to what this star could be. Sleeper activity? A Jovian catastrophe that we are seeing the effects of only now? Something the Sansha awoke, thereby explaining their peculiar activity in Oasa? The Architects?
Or maybe even the return of another ancient civilisation. Only God knows what will happen should the Takmahl return, or we see a resurgence of Yan Jung. |
Xindi Kraid
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
837
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Posted - 2014.11.27 23:00:38 -
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Do we know anything about the UUA-F4 region?
Last time something like this appeared it was outside charted space, but this is inside a region that is listed as having stargates but is unconnected to the cluster at large, much like Jove space, but unlike Jove space, I can't remember ever hearing any references to any possible inhabitants |
EdXell
State War Academy
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:20:24 -
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I once heard a rumor that UUA-F4 is a playground for the gods. Personally I think the guy who told me that poured too much booze in his pod goo but maybe it's relavant.
I too would be interested in any available data on UUA-F4. |
Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
331
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Posted - 2014.11.28 01:12:24 -
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This sort of analysis is outside my sphere of education. And while I'm not always about speculation, there were two key points in the recent news article that I think will become extremely important in the next few days.
Quote:The Faculty of Cosmology at Hedion University has so far declined to comment on the anomaly... It is there. It is manifesting faster than light. It should not be possible.
As I recall correctly, the Imperial navy saw some recent success with a research operation. Surely I'm not the only one who's instinct is pointing towards some unknown relationship here. Other than simple coincidence.
"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."
-Cold Wind
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Xindi Kraid
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
837
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Posted - 2014.11.28 01:14:54 -
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I hadn't thought of that.
I was, however wondering if this is at all related to the recent sightings of sleeper facilities in known space. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
223
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Posted - 2014.11.28 01:19:38 -
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The last time this has happened, we had unstable wormholes popping all over the place.
I conclude that both events are linked. Do we know exactly how these wormholes are generated?
This is probably going to be the strangest thing I'm saying today but I think the light from the object did not travel through space-time conventionally. They got to all these observable points by wormholes too small to be picked up by our equipment at the time. The object itself might actually be made entirely out of wormhole-generating seed materials, whatever it is.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Wendrika Hydreiga
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2014.11.28 03:31:00 -
[34] - Quote
Wow! Miss Grace is famous? Who would have thought! |
Eli Hakomairos
Creeper Co.
Bohica Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.11.28 05:31:25 -
[35] - Quote
The possible implications this could lead to are both highly interesting and highly concerning...
After digging though the reports by miss Grace, as well as new releases, what we have is a Star, that is growing brighter, and scientist within the empire who are essentially saying, "We do not know what the hell is happening".
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Aden Ordinii
Mars-Alpha Works
3
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Posted - 2014.11.28 05:59:47 -
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This Event has captured me, I made a trip to Site One in Eram to boost my knowlege. My Studies pointed to Spacetime, or rather the the effect of raw spacetime flodding in to New Eden. This phenomena isent a normal Supernova, it cant be light. Its Spacetime itself that ripples oure dimension, and resulting wave is the phenomena. And thats why it can be seen instantaneous all over New Eden. I would like to here from WH Pilots, is there an effect in WH Space? Is that why the Nation needed to move with the use of Jumpgates...because Spacetime preventet them from opening a WH? Or is it that something uses the WH-Dimension Sansha forces normaly use for there Incursions? Is this Star the result of a epic failed experiment? Or the opening of some sorts?
And for once: Diana Kim and I share the same thoughts...it seems we are on the same Side for once...i mark this day in my calander!
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
881
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Posted - 2014.11.28 06:32:11 -
[37] - Quote
Wormhole pilots have said that the star is not seen in w-space. |
Jeremiah Cole
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
12
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Posted - 2014.11.28 06:38:41 -
[38] - Quote
Do not forget Seyllin. |
Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
5
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Posted - 2014.11.28 06:50:58 -
[39] - Quote
So,
More stragnely, early this morning our on board scanners detected stargates on the jove space dissappeared. together with regions A821-A, J7HZ-F, and UUA-F4..
Based on the radiation levels and UV signatures, these regions together with the stargetes just go poof in a giant supernova caused by the same anomaly publicly known as call "Bright Star" |
KaRa DaVuT
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
52
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Posted - 2014.11.28 07:36:49 -
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Taraki Orani wrote:So,
More stragnely, early this morning our on board scanners detected stargates on the jove space dissappeared. together with regions A821-A, J7HZ-F, and UUA-F4..
Based on the radiation levels and UV signatures, these regions together with the stargetes just go poof in a giant supernova caused by the same anomaly publicly known as "Bright Star"
Now.. Isn't that very strange.. Just in the phase of the Fountain Invasion...
This could be sign of our glourious victory. As The "bright star" is near to RAZOR Alliance Ancestral Home Regon Tenal, It will shine over us and take us into victory over the enemies...
At least I want to take it like that.. It hasmore acceptable results than the other possibilities. |
Samsara Toldya
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2014.11.28 07:46:59 -
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Is anyone doing investigations wheter or not this phenomenon is related to the latest malfunctions in jump drive technology?
Is it coincidence that only few weeks after jumpbridge networks and other FTL technologies experienced interferences in long distance travel we see a phenomenon like this?
Has anyone of you felt this... uhm... "fatigue" after using jump drives while your medical staff keeps claiming that your health parameters are within the normal tolerances?
Let's hope and pray that gates will continue to work.
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KaRa DaVuT
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
52
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Posted - 2014.11.28 08:15:22 -
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Samsara Toldya wrote:Is anyone doing investigations wheter or not this phenomenon is related to the latest malfunctions in jump drive technology?
Is it coincidence that only few weeks after jumpbridge networks and other FTL technologies experienced interferences in long distance travel we see a phenomenon like this?
Has anyone of you felt this... uhm... "fatigue" after using jump drives while your medical staff keeps claiming that your health parameters are within the normal tolerances?
Let's hope and pray that gates will continue to work.
Honestly speaking,
During our Operations and Deployments both me and my colelagues experienced high density of fatigue on both using jump drives and other jump capable sources like Jump Portals or jump Bridges.
These efects vary from the vessel tyes as, Jump Freighters and Supercapitals Fatigue effects over capsuleers seems vary..
One thing is clear that, the fatigue started considerable time before this so caled "Bright Star"
I doubt that there is a relation but we will see it in future.
however, more interstingly what Taraki Orani reported as the sheer destruction of tree whole regions really made me think that this is somehow similtar to the Sellyn Incident..
Do we know that is there any isogen-5 caches in Jove Space?
Or can we spot any celestial body on the space where the destroyed regions belong?
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Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
6
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Posted - 2014.11.28 08:22:49 -
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KaRa DaVuT wrote:Samsara Toldya wrote:Is anyone doing investigations wheter or not this phenomenon is related to the latest malfunctions in jump drive technology?
Is it coincidence that only few weeks after jumpbridge networks and other FTL technologies experienced interferences in long distance travel we see a phenomenon like this?
Has anyone of you felt this... uhm... "fatigue" after using jump drives while your medical staff keeps claiming that your health parameters are within the normal tolerances?
Let's hope and pray that gates will continue to work.
Honestly speaking, During our Operations and Deployments both me and my colelagues experienced high density of fatigue on both using jump drives and other jump capable sources like Jump Portals or jump Bridges. These efects vary from the vessel tyes as, Jump Freighters and Supercapitals Fatigue effects over capsuleers seems vary.. One thing is clear that, the fatigue started considerable time before this so caled "Bright Star" I doubt that there is a relation but we will see it in future. however, more interstingly what Taraki Orani reported as the sheer destruction of tree whole regions really made me think that this is somehow similtar to the Sellyn Incident.. Do we know that is there any isogen-5 caches in Jove Space? Or can we spot any celestial body on the space where the destroyed regions belong?
I will tell the exact same thing I told to the Arek Jalaan Community.
We as Bersa Co. did not scan other celestials in those solar systems or clusters in detail before these incidents happened. But now, there is nothing but nebulea and high volumes of UV Glare, which generally occurs after cataclysmic events...
Stargates, are gone, but If the Regions along with their celestial bodies are out there, we cannot detect anything even boosting with ship sensors and cannot past back the UV glare and high denstiy of Nebulea.
If any celestial body survived out of this, it is %100 ruined.. Shattered.
Abot the isogen-5, all Isogen-5 stockpiles around New Eden exploded at the same time in a type of realtive response, due to quantum entanglement. If there is any hidden stocpile in Jove, they should be exploded too with the others during the incident. My theory was all related with the Isgoen-5 but now I suspect that it is not because, It simply not explain why it has FTL travel specifics.. |
Frencai Ayan
Alexylva Paradox
Low-Class
16
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Posted - 2014.11.28 09:59:16 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Wormhole pilots have said that the star is not seen in w-space.
Confirmed.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
881
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Posted - 2014.11.28 10:08:09 -
[45] - Quote
Frencai Ayan wrote:Samira Kernher wrote:Wormhole pilots have said that the star is not seen in w-space. Confirmed. Considering that this anomaly was the apparent herald of the opening of the wormholes last time around, does this suggest that the link between K-Space and W-Space was generated entirely in the populated cluster as a result of actions of something here in New Eden? If it' s not visible in the wormholes...
It should be reminded that the first Bright Star appeared a whole year before the Seyllin Incident and the opening of the wormholes.
It may still have had something to do with the Seyllin Incident, in a delayed fashion, but just as likely it had nothing to do with it. |
Aden Ordinii
Mars-Alpha Works
3
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Posted - 2014.11.28 17:38:35 -
[46] - Quote
Waht if this is a White Hole? A singularity wich pours mater in to the univers? |
Frenjo Borkstar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.11.28 19:51:52 -
[47] - Quote
Samsara Toldya wrote:Is anyone doing investigations wheter or not this phenomenon is related to the latest malfunctions in jump drive technology?
Is it coincidence that only few weeks after jumpbridge networks and other FTL technologies experienced interferences in long distance travel we see a phenomenon like this?
Has anyone of you felt this... uhm... "fatigue" after using jump drives while your medical staff keeps claiming that your health parameters are within the normal tolerances?
Let's hope and pray that gates will continue to work.
I've been investigating that, it's a natural occurrence of the stresses of Jump-travel actually, not related to the star as once thought. But these jumpgate dissapearances remind me of Seyllin more and more. The simultaneous novae? The jumpgates dissapearing? Has CONCORD even attempted to contact the Jove? What about all this Nation activity? Not using wormholes? Sounds a lot more worrying...
What about all the time-delay? Only this time it's more prevalent, something to do with wormhole jamming technology being transmitted through the possible tear in space-time? |
Anslo
Scope Works
The Blacklist.
22643
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Posted - 2014.11.28 19:52:54 -
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They don't work like that. Whatever this is, it ain't a natural phenomenon in any stretch. This thing was caused by something, and is acting in such a way that it is breaking everything we know about how light travels.
This thing is a reaction ladies and gents. A reaction from what though ... Well, we'll find out one way or another. This thing keeps growing and it's closest to Perrigren Falls if I recall correctly. We'll keep trying to scout the area as close as we can to the Jove border nearest the anomaly. Who knows, maybe we'll find a gate the Jove forgot to turn off heh.
(DISCLAIMER:that bit about a Jove gate was a joke .)
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Frenjo Borkstar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.11.28 19:57:06 -
[49] - Quote
Anslo wrote:They don't work like that. Whatever this is, it ain't a natural phenomenon in any stretch. This thing was caused by something, and is acting in such a way that it is breaking everything we know about how light travels.
This thing is a reaction ladies and gents. A reaction from what though ... Well, we'll find out one way or another. This thing keeps growing and it's closest to Perrigren Falls if I recall correctly. We'll keep trying to scout the area as close as we can to the Jove border nearest the anomaly. Who knows, maybe we'll find a gate the Jove forgot to turn off heh.
(DISCLAIMER:that bit about a Jove gate was a joke .)
I agree Anslo, I'm currently addressing the IGS NeoCom channel, to try and arrange an expeditionary force to head to JZV-F4, which is apparently closest to the anomaly, and I know what you mean, we're all hoping the Jove knocked their heads on a switch and forgot to turn it off.
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Anslo
Scope Works
The Blacklist.
22644
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Posted - 2014.11.28 19:58:45 -
[50] - Quote
Careful trusting that channel. Might find yourself in a new clone. I'd consult with those you already trust before trying that **** show.
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Frenjo Borkstar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.11.28 20:27:01 -
[51] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Careful trusting that channel. Might find yourself in a new clone. I'd consult with those you already trust before trying that **** show.
I have associates which I trust also listening, don't worry about me, worry about the star.
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
213
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Posted - 2014.11.28 21:45:00 -
[52] - Quote
Joanne Breau wrote:Additionally, comparisons between pictures from yesterday and pictures from today show that the phenomenon has grown brighter and bigger, as shown here http://imgur.com/a/BMu68. There are theories going about that this is a FTL event, as it wasn't noticeable anywhere in New Eden last week and is now visible across the whole cluster.
It can only be a quantum event. The entire cluster is bound up within it. New Eden is a huge mass of entangled particles when you look at the cluster. We have synchronicity and anomalies everywhere.
This is not an ideal place to house a civilisation.
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps
Liandri Covenant
48
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Posted - 2014.11.29 07:03:00 -
[53] - Quote
heres a gif that is roughly 24 hours apart from each frame http://i.imgur.com/RqiGmVN.gif
sorry about the slight movement, taking 100% zoomed up pics isn't exactly the best way to take pics :P
it shows that the first frame its smaller and the 2ed frame is brighter and bigger
I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
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Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
6
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Posted - 2014.11.29 15:07:31 -
[54] - Quote
We are still far from detecting the reasons uv UV glare, and thus the source of the anomaly.
Our research only shows that it is either bending outwards or bending the space-time itself.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1466
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Posted - 2014.11.29 16:58:30 -
[55] - Quote
If the star isn't seen from W-space but is seen from all our space at once with somehow_something_weird_unnatural_broken_physics_quote_happened that caused its light to reach us faster than actual light would reach from the event, I have a couple questions to think about:
1. How far is exactly W-space from our?
2. If this FTL effect doesn't reach them, how in Maker's sake wormholes reach them and started appearing exactly there?.. |
Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
214
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Posted - 2014.11.29 20:32:03 -
[56] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:If the star isn't seen from W-space but is seen from all our space at once with somehow_something_weird_unnatural_broken_physics_quote_happened that caused its light to reach us faster than actual light would reach from the event, I have a couple questions to think about:
1. How far is exactly W-space from our?
2. If this FTL effect doesn't reach them, how in Maker's sake wormholes reach them and started appearing exactly there?..
Some people say that wh space is about 1500 ly from the cluster. To the south west of the map.
I'm not sure though, as the nebula in wh space is usually too dense to observe landmarks that could identify the cluster accurately.
Search for project compass on galnet.
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1472
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Posted - 2014.11.30 12:16:06 -
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I have heard lately rather weird rumors about danger to the cluster.
Does anyone can estimate the possible threat from this event?
Does anyone want to take a scientific approach to this thing and do necessary measures?
If it is FTL phenomenon, does anyone take spectrometric measures and found out what exact particles does the phenomenon emit?
Are they dangerous to live beings?
What is progression of the phenomenon's growth? Is it slowing down or accelerating? |
Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.12.01 04:28:01 -
[58] - Quote
I am working on a theory that does not involve FTL phenomena.
My current theory involves field theories and dark matter. To avoid all the technical and scientific babble: "something" is creating a lensing effect that is shifting some form of exotic particle emissions into the visible light spectrum. Based on the currently observable behavior, I feel this is the most logical explanation. There may be other, long term effects of this on interstellar travel as well. Changes in Boson fields for instance can hamper or enhance warp travel, for instance.
In short; these emissions could have always been here, we simply had no way to observe them before. Which presents a larger question: what has changed?
The important facts:
-Confirmation via news feeds of a change in local space/time after Seyllin CME Event.
-The identified system being a Red Giant.
Could this be the cause of Sleeper and Sansha behavioral changes? Possibly.
This theory also presents an explanation for aberrant fields present in W-space. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1484
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Posted - 2014.12.02 13:42:16 -
[59] - Quote
I don't actually believe there is a radiation emitted that can propagate faster than light.
I have seen reports, that say that the emission consists only of known radiation - gamma quants of typical range.
It would be interesting though to see fine structure of emitting spectrum, as it can say which elements and electron transitions are responsible and in which proportions. |
Verdis deMosays
Alexylva Paradox
Low-Class
74
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Posted - 2014.12.04 21:40:13 -
[60] - Quote
Our scientific station in Anoikis informs me that there are still no sightings of Caroline's star there. However, my chief researcher also advised me recently that the background density of the nebulae we live in may simply prevent us from making the necessary observations.
He has noted the presence of what appear to be proto-wormholes forming in our space though. And as the signals from them keep gaining strength by the day, he has forecast that they should be transitable in less than a week. Perhaps they lead to new systems in Anoikis which may give a clearer view of the sky. And a clearer view may give clearer answers. Time will tell, but I will keep you apprised of our developments as they come available. |
Aurora Fatalis
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
88
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Posted - 2014.12.06 09:06:13 -
[61] - Quote
There is an accretion disk in the middle of the supernova.
There is a black hole already in there.
The Seven Events of the Apocalypse wrote:From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity. Not an entity such as any you can conceive of, nor I; an entity more primordial than the elements themselves, yet constantly coming into existence even as it is destroyed. It is the Child of Chaos, the Pathway to the Next.
The darkness shall swallow the land, and in its wake there will follow a storm, as the appetite of nothing expands over the world.
From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity.
It is the fourth calamity. It's the only explanation that makes sense. I've finally figured it out. I can finally sleep.
If Chribba told you not to trust him, would you?
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1492
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Posted - 2014.12.06 15:59:40 -
[62] - Quote
Ah, then if there are three more, it means, we don't die from this! |
Verdis deMosays
Alexylva Paradox
Low-Class
76
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Posted - 2014.12.07 23:47:35 -
[63] - Quote
I heard that a researcher at the Center for Advanced Studies, my alma mater, was looking into a rumored Jovian project as the cause of this phenomenon. Supposedly their mathematical team was trying to divide by zero. Perhaps they succeeded? |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1499
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Posted - 2014.12.12 05:17:00 -
[64] - Quote
It seems that now Caroline's star relativistic jets have became way smaller.
The matter around it forms a disc, that I suppose is rotating around the center at quite high speed.
I doubt that it would be a supernova, as I don't see upper layers from the star to be flying in all direction.
I believe that the phenomenon is a typical black hole, that have just eaten a star.
Here is an example of the view from Black Rise region (please excuse me for quality, low camera drones lens resolution)
http://i.imgur.com/MoRTH03.png |
Bob Maths
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.12.17 12:28:04 -
[65] - Quote
Verdis deMosays wrote:I heard that a researcher at the Center for Advanced Studies, my alma mater, was looking into a rumored Jovian project as the cause of this phenomenon. Supposedly their mathematical team was trying to divide by zero. Perhaps they succeeded?
Nothing substantial, it's just dealing with infinities. Difficult to do computationally however.
May be a quasar though. |
Sabin Minks
Crysonian
0
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Posted - 2014.12.18 06:39:16 -
[66] - Quote
Let us look at the facts here. Of all events that have happen through out New eden that we are aware off.
Now, I have looked over many records here.
The Bright Star. Defyed our understanding of physics.
Caroline's Star has done the same thing.
The Seyllin event, and the Isogen. Caused wormholes to begin to form all through new eden.
All of these events moved fast then light. Warp Drives, Jump gates, and Jump drives allow us to do this ourselves. Our subspace transmissions move faster then light.
Also take into account this has happen in Jovian space, while we know the Jovian are far more advanced, we are not aware of what they have been working on. So, I am to assume that whatever happen out there was either intenional or accedental actions brought on by the jovians.
But, here is the real question. Where are the remaining jovians? There whole star clusters stargate system went down, and we are assuming this is a super nova? A super nova would be in progression from it red dwarf state for millions of years. Which would mean the Jovians would be well aware of an unstable star.
The Sister of Eve has lost contact with all of there stations in Anoiks...
Also, Sleepers have been detected since this event has happen. I see them at stargates, in astroid belts. Scanning ships and moving about plantary orbital custom offices.
Also, in my travels I have come across through unsecured space what seems to be unstable cloaked structures.
All of this might not be connect.
But I am inclinded to think it is.
Something strange is going on, The Sisters know more then they are willing to let Capuleers know, or the empires.
Even there new line of ships run unusal shielding in sublight and warp engines allowing for Covert cloaking technology.
Something is going on here.... |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1512
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Posted - 2014.12.20 10:32:26 -
[67] - Quote
I guess at this point it should be clear already that these events (The Bright Star and Caroline's Star) isn't the same event.
But I agree with Mr. Minks, that there are similarities. And I don't want to put Jovians, Sisters, covert aliens or other barely related factors here.
Obviosly the phenomenon is the explosion of some sort. Too fast and unusual for supernova or black hole. I have a rather weird hypothesis though.
Do you remember that when this star was found, Sansha was running away without wormhole? Well, I think that maybe old jerk Kuvakei has opened a hole into the star, and that's what happens when it... well, when it happens. |
Sabin Minks
Crysonian
0
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Posted - 2014.12.22 14:35:52 -
[68] - Quote
Hmmm... I didn't take into account that last bit of intel into all of this.
So how my tin foil theroy has another group of interest to add to the list....
A hole in a star? That would explain why a star would go nova with no warning. |
Kinthras
Tequila Sunrise Enterprises
3
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Posted - 2014.12.22 17:35:38 -
[69] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:Do you remember that when this star was found, Sansha was running away without wormhole? Well, I think that maybe old jerk Kuvakei has opened a hole into the star, and that's what happens when it... well, when it happens.
Sansha incursions do still happen and they still use wormholes. This was the only time they used stargates instead of wormholes. So it could mean their wormhole machine malfunctioned near Jove space or that they intentionally did not use it near the phenomenon. Maybe they fear it.
Aurora Fatalis wrote:It is the fourth calamity. It's the only explanation that makes sense. I've finally figured it out. I can finally sleep.
The fourth one could also have been the Seyllin incident. It was a mighty event that occured across the whole of New Eden (as can be seen in this leaked old image) and maybe beyond.. perhaps it is a process rather than a single "boom" event.. and still unfolding.
Maybe we see the fifth calamity here.. Sleeper Drones coming to New Eden, could they be the "little brother making his sorrowful steps home but is not welcome"?
Sabin Minks wrote:A hole in a star? That would explain why a star would go nova with no warning.
Maybe it wasn't a star at all? |
Xiaohui
3
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Posted - 2014.12.24 12:03:05 -
[70] - Quote
Remember that the shortest distance between two objects is not a straight line, it is zero.
Home One - My in character short stories blog.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1514
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Posted - 2014.12.24 14:04:07 -
[71] - Quote
Kinthras wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Do you remember that when this star was found, Sansha was running away without wormhole? Well, I think that maybe old jerk Kuvakei has opened a hole into the star, and that's what happens when it... well, when it happens. Sansha incursions do still happen and they still use wormholes. This was the only time they used a gate instead of a wormhole. So it could mean their wormhole machine malfunctioned near Jove space or that they intentionally did not use it near the phenomenon. Maybe they fear it?
If they would fear, they would run away screaming in terror from fleets we field against their "incursions".
I believe they have simply *CENSORED* up and that exact their wormhole instance went poof, probably causing this celestial event. I'd like to note, that this is simply my hypothesis, that isn't backed by any facts.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1514
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Posted - 2014.12.24 14:05:25 -
[72] - Quote
Xiaohui wrote:Remember that the shortest distance between two objects is not a straight line, it is zero.
If that would be true, our all space would collapse into a dot.
Or at least into a sponge, I have seen a simulations how a space would organize if the principle of causality wasn't set as a necessity. |
Anslo
Scope Works
Psychotic Tendencies.
27489
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Posted - 2014.12.24 15:49:31 -
[73] - Quote
Xiaohui wrote:Remember that the shortest distance between two objects is not a straight line, it is zero.
Wait what.
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