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Krist Valentine
Amarr Bad Omen Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:00:00 -
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Hey all, I'm here to ask a little about Interceptors. I'm not someone who knows nothing about them, I've flown them for about half a year and know how to fly them well, when I've chosen the target. My question is, how can I take down the big guys? I've taken two battlecruisers solo before (at different times ofc :P), but they had no webbers or target painters, so my question is this:
How do I know who to choose and who not to choose, when going for the big boys? I really want to get out there and take some big ships to *finally* get the last bits of footage for a video, but I'm paranoid about webbers. It's not that I can't afford to replace them (which I often can), but I just don't feel like rushing in when there's only a 30% chance or so that I'll live. In all the big ceptor vids out there, the protagonist rushes in and pops battleships without blinking, but never getting webbed, including under 10, or even 5km.
Any ideas? - - - - - Krist Valentine > Anti Pirate [An-tee-py-rut] - NOUN - Miner who got podded and trained for a Ferox. |

Cohkka
LoneWolf Mining R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:16:00 -
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Look out for nubs, that's the only advice I'll give you. There is no way, you can kill a Cruiser/BC/BS in an interceptor solo if the pilot has a clue what he's doing.
Tbh, these interceptor vids show exactly that. They go in kill some nub in his NPCing BS and go out. Yeah shows great skill and everything... And no, even small longrange guns won't hit you if you're orbiting your target at 500m.
Don't speak english, just F5, F5, F5... |

Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:45:00 -
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a raven or a scorp will rarley fit a webber, so you can pray they dont have light or Med drones or try to take them out before they take you out. Same with ferox but enough damage with heavy missles and you'll probably die.
Alternativly, get a crow, fit standard missles, orbit at 15k with MWD, 20k scramble and not have to worry about webs. ----- Move along, nothign to see here... |

DeadDuck
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.03 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Chronus26
Alternativly, get a crow, fit standard missles, orbit at 15k with MWD, 20k scramble and not have to worry about webs.
just the nos 
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Krist Valentine
Amarr Bad Omen Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:03:00 -
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Thanks for your replies. It's a shame to be honest - I love interceptors but if I can only take rookies on in them then it seems like they need a real revamp.
There's no way I'd take a scorp solo - that amount of electronic warfare is insane.
Oh, and in relation to the last recommendation: I despise Caldari ships. - - - - - Krist Valentine > Anti Pirate [An-tee-py-rut] - NOUN - Miner who got podded and trained for a Ferox. |

Hamatitio
Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:09:00 -
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noo.. they need to be nerfed. They are interceptors after all, not assault ships. --- I'm going through sigs fast these days. |

Prisoner1033948
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:13:00 -
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Usually u wont have the dps to take down a bs with a clue... Ive never had problems with bc's in my claw. But afaik intys are most deadly in packs.. get 5-10 friends in inties and u can take on anything...
..except smartbombs ofc
I heard sumwere about 2-3 ranis pilots who took down a nub carrier   ---------------------------------------- I R ZEPHIRZ!!!!111one
My mains account is inactive atm
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Maya Rkell
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hamatitio noo.. they need to be nerfed. They are interceptors after all, not assault ships.
Take it up with TomB.
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Krist Valentine
Amarr Bad Omen Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Hamatitio noo.. they need to be nerfed. They are interceptors after all, not assault ships.
I'm not saying they should be stronger, I just think there should be some way to avoid webbers for them. Let AF's do the tanking, I just want ceptors to be able to carry out their role :P
And I'd forgotten about wolfpacks :P - - - - - Krist Valentine > Anti Pirate [An-tee-py-rut] - NOUN - Miner who got podded and trained for a Ferox. |

Angelus X
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Angelus X on 03/09/2006 23:54:25 Step (1). You wanna kill big ships in your inty, you're gonna have to spend just as much isk, if not more on your inty+fittings, as they spend on their big ship+fittings. 
Go from there. -----
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Krist Valentine
Amarr Bad Omen Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.03 23:58:00 -
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To be honest, I recently came into a fairly large amount of cash (for a ceptor setup, at least), and can't really see what I'd do with that amount. I have mates who spend like 100mil on ship setups for battleships, that's just not possible with a ceptor, as far as I can see anyway.
But thanks for the advice, I sorta see where you're coming from. - - - - - Krist Valentine > Anti Pirate [An-tee-py-rut] - NOUN - Miner who got podded and trained for a Ferox. |

Izo Azlion
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.04 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Krist Valentine Thanks for your replies. It's a shame to be honest - I love interceptors but if I can only take rookies on in them then it seems like they need a real revamp.
There's no way I'd take a scorp solo - that amount of electronic warfare is insane.
Oh, and in relation to the last recommendation: I despise Caldari ships.
Their inties, they intercept... they are not solo pwnmobiles. nor should they be.
Izo Azlion.
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Cohkka
LoneWolf Mining R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.04 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Krist Valentine To be honest, I recently came into a fairly large amount of cash (for a ceptor setup, at least), and can't really see what I'd do with that amount. I have mates who spend like 100mil on ship setups for battleships, that's just not possible with a ceptor, as far as I can see anyway.
But thanks for the advice, I sorta see where you're coming from.
100 mio isk is spended rather quick. Maybe you want a Gistii MWD, some nice Gistii webs and scrambler. Or you want to get a snake set, depending on which one you have to spend billions, and hopefully not get podded...
Don't speak english, just F5, F5, F5... |

Kalixa Hihro
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Posted - 2006.09.04 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Chronus26
Alternativly, get a crow, fit standard missles, orbit at 15k with MWD, 20k scramble and not have to worry about webs.
just the nos 
yeap, with a dread guristas disruptor you can orbit outside of NOS range of a battleship, having your cake whilst eating it. That's why they cost so much. BS NOS = 21km range. DG Distruptor = 24km.
-Kal /*----------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ My opinion in no way represents that of my corp or anyone I am associated with, and is probably entirely wrong. |

Zakgram
Apocalyptic Raiders
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Posted - 2006.09.04 07:04:00 -
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Edited by: Zakgram on 04/09/2006 07:04:49
Originally by: Kalixa Hihro
yeap, with a dread guristas disruptor you can orbit outside of NOS range of a battleship, having your cake whilst eating it. That's why they cost so much. BS NOS = 21km range. DG Distruptor = 24km.
BS NOS = 25km ftw! http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/engineeringequipment/energyvampires/heavy/16503.asp
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MrRookie
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2006.09.04 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Krist Valentine
Originally by: Hamatitio noo.. they need to be nerfed. They are interceptors after all, not assault ships.
I'm not saying they should be stronger, I just think there should be some way to avoid webbers for them. Let AF's do the tanking, I just want ceptors to be able to carry out their role :P
And I'd forgotten about wolfpacks :P
Pardon my french but thats a silly sugestion. If there is any ships out there that can avoid webers, it's the interceptors... You can orbit a BS at 500 m and even webed, they wont hit you, or you can use the speed of doom to stay out of harm anyway.
They are not solopwnmobiles, but if you still insist on attacking the big boys, the only thing you can do is hope they don't have NOSes, lightdrones, precission missiles, Javelin Torps, 3x Target painters or setups like that. ________________________________________________
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Krist Valentine
Amarr Bad Omen Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:14:00 -
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Thanks for the replies. In relation to the last comment, dude, do you fly interceptors? I've been webbed at close range by big ships, and that ship didn't make it out of the fight. - - - - - Krist Valentine > Anti Pirate [An-tee-py-rut] - NOUN - Miner who got podded and trained for a Ferox. |

Corphus
Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Angelus X Edited by: Angelus X on 03/09/2006 23:54:25 Step (1). You wanna kill big ships in your inty, you're gonna have to spend just as much isk, if not more on your inty+fittings, as they spend on their big ship+fittings. 
Go from there.
/signed
as much as i love ceptors i have to agree. theres no way an outfitted interceptor for 20 mil should be able to kill a 150mil+ battleship. ceptors are primary tacklers and pure fun dogfitghting with enemy ceptor gangs but they're not a solo pwnmobile by any means. if u want to kill serious stuff with it invest cash in faction mods like gist mwd and whatnot. but if u want to kill the big boys effectiveley just take some friends with u.
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Krist Valentine
Amarr Bad Omen Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.04 12:39:00 -
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Thanks. Although I keep trying to get my ceptor friends together since this post, they seem to manage to 'just have to logout' every time. :\ - - - - - Krist Valentine > Anti Pirate [An-tee-py-rut] - NOUN - Miner who got podded and trained for a Ferox. |

Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.04 14:07:00 -
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My BS NOS reach 25km
Killed my sig AGAIN! :p http://www.ninc.org/krubarax/images/2d/verydisco.jpg |
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Matrim Acoma
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Angelus X Edited by: Angelus X on 03/09/2006 23:54:25 Step (1). You wanna kill big ships in your inty, you're gonna have to spend just as much isk, if not more on your inty+fittings, as they spend on their big ship+fittings. 
Go from there.
I'd love an option to build out a frigate for the same cost as a BS that could compete at that level. Give me a frigate that has the same or even higher SP requirements and fitting costs as a HAC or BS and let me compete with them in PvP.
Seems that if you don't fly a HAC or BS, you will get owned by them. So, in order to compete w/ HAC's or BS's, you have to fly slow sluggish ships. That's lame. I'd love the option of a high SP & high ISK PvP frig that can compete w/ any of the other ship classes.
- Mat
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.05 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kalixa Hihro
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Chronus26
Alternativly, get a crow, fit standard missles, orbit at 15k with MWD, 20k scramble and not have to worry about webs.
just the nos 
yeap, with a dread guristas disruptor you can orbit outside of NOS range of a battleship, having your cake whilst eating it. That's why they cost so much. BS NOS = 21km range. DG Distruptor = 24km.
-Kal
Erm, there are several types of heavy nosferatus, and the ones I typically use in PVP (E500 and Heavy Diminishing) reach to at least 24 km. Sooo... no, a Dread Guristas disruptor won't cut it. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
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