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![Mihailovich Mihailovich](https://images.evetech.net/characters/146139385/portrait?size=64)
Mihailovich
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.04 21:17:00 -
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I don't know about anyone else,but, I think that at times what EVE lacks is two things:
1. An element of instant, predictable, interaction that you can dip in and out of.
2. A less harsh environment in which some of the more 'conservative' members of our community can enjoy themselves with a greater sense of freedom.
My suggestion to some extent already exists in the form of the test server.
My proposal is a combat arena for pure pvp activity. Log in, fix a fight, undock and go for it. You can set options for fights 1 v 1, 5 v 5, 5 v 1, whatever you want and set up specific or open ship classes...as many possibilities as you want. With the same character and skillset as you have in game.
The key is the downside, it has to be manageable. I would propose a fee per fight out of your characters real game money. Say 1 million per frigate fight or 10 million per BS entry and importantly the ships and a fixed set of modules is freely available to everyone that can use them. I would suggest tech 1 basic (i.e. no named) and tech 2 modules (no officer) are available.
Then the 'carrot'...a ranking board for consistent winners and the fight fees go into a pot for prize money. This is then distributed at the end of each fight, per kill with a weighting for bigger ship types and at the end of the month there is a set of bigger prizes based on rankings that month etc.
This could make it more feasible to earn a living as a pvp specialist. It also allows a quick log in, half an hour fight which is something that the enormity of tranquility doesnĘt always permit.
You could also introduce a spectating element. I for one would like to see what some of the vets can do in a capital ship vs 3 or 4 BS fights.
No doubt this would feed the ego for some, but, at least its earned and in a public show of skill. Plus the fight arrangement element means that even a 1 day old noob can get a challenging fight.
I think that this idea has some merit. It may not be original. I hope you like it.
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![Kirex Kirex](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1497826625/portrait?size=64)
Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.04 21:22:00 -
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"My proposal is a combat arena for pure pvp activity. Log in, fix a fight, undock and go for it. You can set options for fights 1 v 1, 5 v 5, 5 v 1, whatever you want and set up specific or open ship classes...as many possibilities as you want. With the same character and skillset as you have in game."
Its called the test server. :/
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![Tao Han Tao Han](https://images.evetech.net/characters/716190993/portrait?size=64)
Tao Han
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.09.04 21:24:00 -
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I personaly dont think that this would fit in the EVE universe with "arenas" and suchlike, it would make PvP to artifical. You could make a corp with an alt and stage fights with the members, but I just cant see arena fighting. It would fit alot more within Age of Conans gameworld.
Now you will most likely be overrun with asshats saying how much your idea sucks, but thats just my crystal ball
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![Norma Stitz Norma Stitz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/101584090/portrait?size=64)
Norma Stitz
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Posted - 2006.09.04 21:24:00 -
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It is a constant weakness of eve - new player experience.
Its not a learning curve, it is being pushed off a cliff.
Those who survive are at least committed ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
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![terje terje](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1269301561/portrait?size=64)
terje
evolution insane
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Posted - 2006.09.04 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: terje on 04/09/2006 21:41:55 put it on the ideas forum so it can officailly be flushed down the shi*!er
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![Zhaine Zhaine](https://images.evetech.net/characters/658732873/portrait?size=64)
Zhaine
B e l l u m
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Posted - 2006.09.04 21:55:00 -
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Yup this is gonna get flamed methinks; it's been proposed many times before and it will be many times more.
This sort of feature exists in other MMOs, if you want it go play them, that's your choice and only a giberring fool would think less of you for making that choice.
However Eve's strength is that it is NOT friendly and NOT easy to get into and that PvP is hard and harsh and always has consequences. It's somewhat unique, or at least rare, in this respect and the people who play the game for what it is want to keep it that way. Even to the point of somewhat harshly flaming people like you who suggest what, on the surface, is a perfectly sane idea.
Anyways there's no need for them to bother, it ain't gonna happen and Eve is the better for it. - - - - - - - - - -
Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
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![Chewan Mesa Chewan Mesa](https://images.evetech.net/characters/230773038/portrait?size=64)
Chewan Mesa
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.04 21:56:00 -
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Oohhh this is a new week and a new "Arena-PvP" Post..
Go search the forums and post your idea in the old thread.
Jesus....
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![Misses Gap Misses Gap](https://images.evetech.net/characters/611750805/portrait?size=64)
Misses Gap
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Posted - 2006.09.04 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Chewan Mesa Oohhh this is a new week and a new "Arena-PvP" Post..
Go search the forums and post your idea in the old thread.
Jesus....
Ahh- well no, better dont Some fools possibly would accuse you of thread necromancy.
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![Chewan Mesa Chewan Mesa](https://images.evetech.net/characters/230773038/portrait?size=64)
Chewan Mesa
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.04 22:23:00 -
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Good point, let the idea R.I.P.
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![nahtoh nahtoh](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1330188342/portrait?size=64)
nahtoh
Caldari Bull Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.04 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Norma Stitz It is a constant weakness of eve - new player experience.
Its not a learning curve, it is being pushed off a cliff.
Those who survive are at least committed ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
Actually I liked the fact it was wide open after the very quick tutorual (and 2 years ago it was very quick and did not explain much ). ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
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![Patch86 Patch86](https://images.evetech.net/characters/769267669/portrait?size=64)
Patch86
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Posted - 2006.09.04 23:24:00 -
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One thing I've noticed EVE lacks, in all my time playing, is an optional PvP flag for Empire.
Thats not to say I want low sec PvPing removed- nothing should change as to who can be PvPed now. What would be nice though is a way for 2 people in Empire to have consensual PvP, where currently they would be CONCORDed. You can atm do something like use can thief flags to do it, but it's really a bit messy. Would be nice to be able to challenge people to duels in high sec- ie., alliance mates (who currently are CONCORD protected in high sec) might want to have a bit of a scrap.
Always nice to have more routes to PvP.
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![Flinx Evenstar Flinx Evenstar](https://images.evetech.net/characters/177040521/portrait?size=64)
Flinx Evenstar
Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 05/09/2006 01:44:42 Lacks interaction!!! are u kidding?
I dont know...try undocking.
I have been opened up to the world of team speak/ventrillo through this game, and now have friends in Canada/USA/Poland/Serbia to name but a few
You can chat to anyone in local at ANY time...lacks interaction...hmmm
Oh and Patch86...if you think can flagging is too much of an effort, then why dont u gang warp to low sec and play in a belt...doh!
and as an earlier poster recommended...Mihailovich, stick to the test server if that's what u looking for.
Seems to me, that you are wanting an environment where you can win, with no risk...and no rush..or excitement :)
Edit: If you want ranking...we have kill boards. Check me out :) 11th place all time killer in a big alliance :p (ok so I want top ten...no, top 5..oh well I'll have to sabotage Mehriel and his crystals)
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![El Alamein El Alamein](https://images.evetech.net/characters/928374884/portrait?size=64)
El Alamein
Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:53:00 -
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thats a terrible idea, your basically proposing that we shard the world of eve with this "combat arena." eve would loose all of its appeal if it started opening up genre specific arenas. -----------------------------------
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![Pestillence Pestillence](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1132447361/portrait?size=64)
Pestillence
Revelations Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:06:00 -
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Your topic title and idea bear very little resemblance.
EvE has plenty of interaction already.
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![Eilie Eilie](https://images.evetech.net/characters/739628252/portrait?size=64)
Eilie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Chewan Mesa Oohhh this is a new week and a new "Arena-PvP" Post..
Go search the forums and post your idea in the old thread.
Jesus....
QFT LMAO!
To OP: If you want pointless PvP, go play WoW! ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
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![Admiral Feelgood Admiral Feelgood](https://images.evetech.net/characters/157463417/portrait?size=64)
Admiral Feelgood
Even-Flow
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Posted - 2006.09.05 02:49:00 -
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Doesn't guild wars have a lame arena system like this? I haven't played the game but my friends who have talk about the arena a lot.
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![Testicular Testes Testicular Testes](https://images.evetech.net/characters/602845995/portrait?size=64)
Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2006.09.05 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Feelgood Doesn't guild wars have a lame arena system like this? I haven't played the game but my friends who have talk about the arena a lot.
Guildwars is arenas only. Random Arena, Team Arena, Hall of Heroes (series of 8v8 - 8v8v8v8v8v8) and Guild Battle (8v8).
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![Maria Ravenwind Maria Ravenwind](https://images.evetech.net/characters/825816906/portrait?size=64)
Maria Ravenwind
Gallente Lepers Unbound
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Posted - 2006.09.05 04:05:00 -
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Wow, why is everyone so against this idea? I don't understand the hostility. I personally think it's a great idea, and would gladly welcome it. How would it turn PvP artificial? You mean like ganking noobs slowboating at a gate isn't artificial? It would give a lot of players a great chance to get experience that they don't have instantly available.
And don't give the tired excuse about the test server. FFS, you log on and theres 50 people in then entire freakin map. And chances are that that 50 people are from one alliance thats logged on together to test stuff out.
An Arena server would benefit us all.
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![Jim McGregor Jim McGregor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/786173472/portrait?size=64)
Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.05 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 05/09/2006 05:42:12 Most people are against it because its not in the spirit of Eve. Eve is supposed to be very hostile and cruel and you have to take responsibility for your mistakes.
Having a pvp arena might be fun, but its very artificial in a way... its like the Iraqi & the US forces would agree to meet in Norway to fight, and having a judge to make sure everything goes according to plan. ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
Point being, that if they introduce a Arena, there will be rules. And thats a very strange thing to have for a game like Eve.
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![Tammarr Tammarr](https://images.evetech.net/characters/165078329/portrait?size=64)
Tammarr
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Posted - 2006.09.05 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Ravenwind It would give a lot of players a great chance to get experience that they don't have instantly available.
This is where you fail, everyone can get that experience, quite instantly if they choose to go looking for it. But as with everything you will go risking something.
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![Cadela Fria Cadela Fria](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1664303121/portrait?size=64)
Cadela Fria
Amarr eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.05 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: Cadela Fria on 05/09/2006 08:13:22 OP: ..what can I say...can I have your stuff when you quit? You're not quitting you say? Please do anyway? Please!..I mean think of the puppies, THE PUPPIES!!! ![Crying or Very sad](/images/icon_cry.gif) No seriously...like others have said a billion times...it's called: Test Server.
Anything else remotely like this belongs in WoW - here it's; Survival of the fittest, tough luck but it's what makes this game so beautiful in all it's glory imho.
Originally by: Patch86 One thing I've noticed EVE lacks, in all my time playing, is an optional PvP flag for Empire.
Thats not to say I want low sec PvPing removed- nothing should change as to who can be PvPed now. What would be nice though is a way for 2 people in Empire to have consensual PvP, where currently they would be CONCORDed. You can atm do something like use can thief flags to do it, but it's really a bit messy. Would be nice to be able to challenge people to duels in high sec- ie., alliance mates (who currently are CONCORD protected in high sec) might want to have a bit of a scrap.
Always nice to have more routes to PvP.
....wha...I....what the....you...I mean how.....how can you.....I'm lost for words.....*STRANGLES YOU!!!!!!* DIE HEATHEN!!!! SPEAK NOT SUCH BLASPHEMOUS WORDS ON THIS HOLY FORUM!!!!!
Note: I do understand your idea..but the phrase, and I whisper this carefully; "consensual pvp" ...makes baby jesus cry..really...don't say it, seriously...it leads to a greater evil, even though your idea might not be meant for such evilness. It will go down that road eventually..trust me.
-Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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![eLLioTT wave eLLioTT wave](https://images.evetech.net/characters/977961071/portrait?size=64)
eLLioTT wave
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.05 08:15:00 -
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Mihailovich, you will be very glad to know this "feature" is already implemented!!!
Stick around a bit longer and you'll see the next tournament in which you can spectate and participate in a ladder style tournament! You can also practice on the test server or with corp mates.
Fantastic isn't it!? |
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