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Fortan Farthon	Posted - 2006.09.04 22:33:00 - [1] Edited by: Fortan on 04/09/2006 22:33:49 99% of my time is missions and non PvP ratting and was wondering what some more experienced people thought of this setup. BTW, I'm still working on some of the higher skills to upgrade modules, so some are basic or T1... 4x 250mm 2x 150mm 1x Tractor Beam 3x Cap Recharger 1 1x Cap Battery T1 1x Damage Control 2x Medium Armor Repairer 2x Energized Basic Adaptive Nano Plating 5x Hammerhead 1 Drones
Benjamin Olson	Posted - 2006.09.04 22:37:00 - [2] The Brutix only has 5 low slots . I never knew that... Anyways its actually an ok setup, except id drop the cap battery for a cap injector, and id only have 1 armor rep because with that resistance youd still die fast. So drop an armor rep and the EANM's and put maybe 1 EANM and 2 hardeners.
Dethis Caldari The Graduates	Posted - 2006.09.04 23:20:00 - [3] Edited by: Dethis on 04/09/2006 23:23:15 Edited by: Dethis on 04/09/2006 23:22:16 6x200mm rail guns (am,lead,iridium) 1x tractor beam 1x 10mn ab II 3x Named cap rechargers 1x Medium armor repII 3x specific hardeners 1x dcu/mfsII/cpr/eanm depending on the mission 5xmedium drones for most missions and 5x small for the ones with the fast ships (illegal activities etc) for the easier ones i drop one hardener for a Mag field stab II and use a second Mag field stab II in the extra low. Also when going into a new mission try and fit the damage control so if you get in over your head you have the extra HP needed to warp out All these modules can be changed for T1 except i really suggest getting the Tech 2 repairer ASAP as it makes all the difference in the world on the brutix -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
Fortan Farthon	Posted - 2006.09.05 01:01:00 - [4] The reason I run 4x 250mm and 2x 150mm is for the smaller ships that come in to close for the 250s but not super close, lets my drones work on the 5000m or closer while I use 150's on the 5000m+. Something else I've wondered about, what about using bombs in place of the 150mm? Like, 5x 250, 1x bomb or 4x 250, 1x 150, and 1x bomb? Have absolute zero experience with the bombs so this may be a total noob question :D
Dethis Caldari The Graduates	Posted - 2006.09.05 01:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Fortan The reason I run 4x 250mm and 2x 150mm is for the smaller ships that come in to close for the 250s but not super close, lets my drones work on the 5000m or closer while I use 150's on the 5000m+. Something else I've wondered about, what about using bombs in place of the 150mm? Like, 5x 250, 1x bomb or 4x 250, 1x 150, and 1x bomb? Have absolute zero experience with the bombs so this may be a total noob question :D With the 6x 200mm's you can hit everything in close except fast moving frigates and fast moving drones (which you could hit with a web) but i personally have high drone Sp so my 5x mediums just tear the smaller stuff apart while i blow the bigger stuff up -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
Dahak2150	Posted - 2006.09.05 02:11:00 - [6] If you can, drop the basic nanos for standard "Energized adaptive nano membranes". Worlds better. Basic is really only something one fits if they can't fit the normal T1 items. ---------- My sig is boring.
Fortan Farthon	Posted - 2006.09.05 02:43:00 - [7] Updated setup--- 4x 250mm 2x 150mm 1x Tractor Beam 1x Cap Battery T1 3x Named Cap Recharger 1x Emergency Damage Control 1 2x Medium Armor Rep 2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 5x Hammerhead 1 Drones
Myrk Reinhart	Posted - 2006.09.05 06:55:00 - [8] Well... Dual armor rep on a ship that cant maintain the capacitor is bad for npc/missions mkay Dual rep -> need Cap injector and that is not viable on long scale missions or npc hunting. Use active hardeners on it for the npc type you are fighting and get those resistances up. it is cruicial. -> use 2 or 3 active hardeners and maybe one energized adaptive nano. get rid of the damagecontrol and use a caprelay instead so you'll be able to run the tank 23/7. fit the guns you like, but your performance in my opinion will be best with 6x 200mm railguns.
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.09.05 10:11:00 - [9] Edited by: slothe on 05/09/2006 10:11:56 what dethis said dude. your not listening. 6x200mm rails is good and what you need. 1 ab mid (maybe 1 painter or tracking comp mid) cap rechargers x2/3 2x specific energised membranes (t2 pref) personally i prefer these to actives as they use no cap and with decent armour compensation skills they can be good as t2 actives. whatever reps (i medium + 1 small rep is good btw) mag stab field USE MEDIUM DRONES FOR SMALLER RATS (target painter + med drones = dead frig)
Narusegawa Naru Gallente The Underground	Posted - 2006.09.05 10:20:00 - [10] A Tracking CPU helps out alot on my own Brutix. And a webber is a great tool too. And I don't see a huge point in running 2 Med Arm Rep's as you certainly will run out of Cap very fast with that. Drop one for a PDS to boost your cap recharge rate. Drop one of the cap rechargers in your med slot too and replace it with either tracking cpu or webber. Unless you are VERY confident your drones can handle multi-interceptors in missions. Just my opinion though.
inSpirAcy Caldari The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2006.09.05 10:42:00 - [11] Medium Armor Repairer + 3 active hardeners + (optionally EANM/DC, I prefer Magstab) is a much easier tank to maintain. Just needs two CR IIs as I recall with energy skills at IV. My PvE Brutix highs are 5x250mm and 2x150mm, I wouldn't recommend dropping to 4x250mm's though - the damage output starts to look shabby. Medium drones help to make up the damage that the 6th 250mm isn't doing, or you can go the light drone route and do 6 200mm (which leaves room for the TB).
Flitz Farseeker Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.05 12:21:00 - [12] I notice that none of these setups use any plates, only reppers and hardeners. Is 2xhardeners and a repper really better than armor, repper and specific hardener?
Croak Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.05 12:29:00 - [13] Originally by: Flitz Farseeker I notice that none of these setups use any plates, only reppers and hardeners. Is 2xhardeners and a repper really better than armor, repper and specific hardener? Yes.
inSpirAcy Caldari The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2006.09.05 12:31:00 - [14] Most rats only put out two damage types, one of which is usually higher. That's why active hardeners are useful, because you can double harden the higher damage type, and single harden the other. Guristas: 2xKin 1xTherm Angels: 2xExpl 1xKin The reduction in incoming damage is quite staggering if you're used to EANM/plates.
Lord Stanur	Posted - 2006.09.05 12:34:00 - [15] Edited by: Lord Stanur on 05/09/2006 12:35:51 mine is like that : 7200mm ab / 3cap rech 1 med rep t2 / 4-free slot depending on mission (mag stab/hardner) im using drone to kill guys who are to near from me and lets roll. Quote: I notice that none of these setups use any plates, only reppers and hardeners. Is 2xhardeners and a repper really better than armor, repper and specific hardener? For pve it is, and the brutix got a bonus to rep ammount so high resist is even better than a fit with lower resist but more hp.
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.09.05 13:04:00 - [16] Originally by: Benjamin Olson The Brutix only has 5 low slots . I never knew that... Anyways its actually an ok setup, except id drop the cap battery for a cap injector, and id only have 1 armor rep because with that resistance youd still die fast. So drop an armor rep and the EANM's and put maybe 1 EANM and 2 hardeners. The astarte only has 6 --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Loot!
Rigsta Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.09.05 13:41:00 - [17] Originally by: Fortan 2x Energized Basic Adaptive Nano Plating Why basic energised plates? Waste of a slot. Originally by: Jim McGregor I felt the disturbance... it was like a million voices suddenly stopped whining for a second. Unfortunantly it then continued.
Fortan Farthon	Posted - 2006.09.05 16:01:00 - [18] Updated Setup....Again :D 6x 200mm 1x Tractor Beam 3x Cap Recharger 1x AB 1x Medium Armor Repairer 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1x Energized Magnetic Membrane 1x Energized Thermic Membrane 1x Energized Reactive Membrane 5x Hammerhead 1 Drones (using passive Membranes till I get skill advanced for actives)
Cavtrooper A.W.M Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.05 23:05:00 - [19] Here is my Brutix setup, I wouldnt recommend using it unless you got some help! HIGHS: 5x med NOS 2 x small blasters MIDS: 7.5 scram Web MWD 20k scram LOWS kinetic hardner II Explosive hardner II Thermal harder II Med armor repper II 800 mm plate Can you guess what I use it for? Tanks allright, but nos's the dog poo out of stuff. Nice little tackler at a station though. 2 cents courtesy of CAVTROOPER visit www.awmcorp.co.uk for more utterly perposterous ideas
king jks	Posted - 2006.09.05 23:47:00 - [20] Getting more resists is more important than another rep, since the ship gets a bonus to how much armor is reparied one should be enough with BC lvl 4. Fit a MARII, 2 or 3x rat specific hardeners, and a 800mm plate or EANM.
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.09.06 00:03:00 - [21] Originally by: Fortan Edited by: Fortan on 05/09/2006 18:52:56 6x 200mm (having alot of trouble hitting anything under 12k) use a target painter in mid, paint targets under 12km and put drones on them
Aterna	Posted - 2006.09.06 04:18:00 - [22] My ratting setup is: 5 Modal Ion 2 Medium Nos (can't fit t2) Named 10mn MWD X5 webber 2 Cap Rechargers, at least F-b10 MAR2 3 rat specific hardeners Cap relay This setup tanks 1.85 mil serpentis BS spawns, 3 at a time. Good stuff. For PvP, 5 Modal Electron/T2 2 Medium Nos 10mn MWD Webber 7.5km Scram Cap booster w/800s 2x MAR 2 Exp. Hardener Ther. Hardener Kin. Hardener Get in close, switch on the nos/guns/web/scram, hit the first repper when you run out of shield, hit the 2nd repper when you know you can't keep up with just one, fire off cap booster when you go below 20%. Don't forget your drones! I use t2 mediums.
Fortan Farthon	Posted - 2006.09.06 17:54:00 - [23] Is me running... 1x Medium Armor Repairer 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1x Energized Magnetic Membrane 1x Energized Thermic Membrane 1x Energized Reactive Membrane An OK way to do my resists until I can get skills up for actives?

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