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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:06:00 -
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when does the BM-Position actually get stored?
the second you hit "add bm" or the second you hit "OK" ?
i think its the the second you hit add, but iam not sure.
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:07:00 -
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that explains why i always end up somewhere else :-P
thanks
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:07:00 -
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The second you hit okay.
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Gretchen Dawntreader
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: Gretchen Dawntreader on 05/09/2006 18:20:53
that would be different than in normal subwarp flight? Frankly never noticed when dropping a safespot mark, but in normal flight it displays the numbers for the location in the window when you click "Add Bookmark" leading me to think that it is the former, rather than the latter click that freezes the location.
Guess I'll try it tonight...have the system map in F11 up and click Add at the beginning of warp, OK at the end, then go back to the mark and see where it ended up.
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Tao Han
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:17:00 -
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O rly?
That explains why I always sucked at SS creation 
Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
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Syris Anu
Evolutionary Pressure
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Syris Anu on 05/09/2006 18:20:23
/me chuckles
This tripped me up when I started messing with bookmarks, too. It seems very odd to me that the bookmarks show coordinates of where you said create bookmark in the dialog, but then obviously take on different coordinates when you click ok. It would also be fun if you could change the coordinaes manually. There might be ways to exploit this (do tell if you have ideas?), but it seems like it could be pretty fun to me to have sort of a sub specialty of navigator where someone would be desperately be figuring out how to change the coordinates to c.rack someone's safespot or get a great warp in on on someone.
It would probably take someone too long to spot warp in the middle of a fight using this tactic (plus you cannot warp to something within 150km) unless the target was sitting still, but could also result in all sort of hilarity. I mean, if a bookmark is just coordinates keyed into your nav computer, why couldn't you key anything in. Oh, yeah, and if you do it and end yourself up in the middle of the planet or the sun, it should be the pod farm for you. Or, if we are nicer, your warp is just rejected on grounds that mass already exists at said location. 
Of course, I could also favor dropping safespots entirely and only allowing bookmarks within 500km of a celestial (but not within 15km of a gate ).
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:25:00 -
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 Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
The second you hit okay.
False.
How it works is this:
You open the dialogue at any point. When you click "ok" it starts thinking about placing the BM. You'll generally get a client lockup, speeds/distances won't update etc, which usually takes around a second or so. Then it'll drop the BM once the client unlocks. This is generally when you're around 0.5AU from the thing you're warping to and decelerating, and in any case tends to be five to ten AU past the point where you hit "ok".
I think this is an artefact of a recentish change which meant you could only do one BM operation every second - it's a great way of decreasing load from people copying, but it totally screws things up if you're trying to drop BMs in warp. That's my experience, anyway.
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Gretchen Dawntreader
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:26:00 -
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Hmm...ok with regular bookmarks for gates and stations I frequently click Add at the right spot, then spend time making an extensive label...sometimes distracted by something for a minute....eventually clicking ok.
Easy test for this is something with a MWD, click Add, fly 50km or so, click OK, see where it ended up.
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:27:00 -
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Easy test for this: do it every frikkin' day, you find out soon enough how it works ;)
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:28:00 -
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oh dear, more complicated when i thought :-p
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.09.05 18:30:00 -
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lol :) It's meant to work in the way everyone else describes - it creates as soon as you click "ok" - and indeed it did do that in the past. However, I've had the horrible BM-creation-lag problem since the patch where they changed BM stuff a bit, and it really, really annoys me when I'm trying to pin down hostiles, as everyone in my corp will know :P
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