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RedeyeAce
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Posted - 2006.09.06 11:49:00 -
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Before hand I could do l2's as a walk in the park, my skill base allowed me to do them in a merlin with no shield booster and just let my skills do the shield regen. Now even with a destroyer / resists as 50+ / I keep having to warp. Also Massive attack lvl 3 which we did as a 2 player team mish.. 2yr old player with ferox and me in the merlin it used to be a walk in the park (using the ferox to tank).
Now I went pop, the ferox couldnt hold tank and nor could a a Domi, they had to warp out about 10 times to complete the mission.. Whats going on....
I feel sorry for noobs doing WC now L1. Anyone else seen the same thing happen... It's only since Tuesdays patch.
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x2pixel
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.09.06 12:04:00 -
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I did a couple of lvl 2 missions in my caracel last night and found them ok. 4 heavy missile launchers, 1 assault launcher, 2 med shield extenders, an invuln hardener, shield boost and AB, and was ok. Did not have to warp out once.
I am only a nooblet still, 3 weeks old, but seemed ok.
I also picked up loot, one item of which was worth over 6 mill!!!! could not believe it, is that normal?
perhaps the lvl hardness and reward system is a bit more random since the patch?
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RedeyeAce
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Posted - 2006.09.06 12:08:00 -
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k, just some further info.. i was using a t2 small shield booster on the destroyer with the afforementioned resists.. and still have to warp on l2's
Spoke to the pilots involved in that Massive Attack mish and it was a l3 and they both had to warp around 10 times to complete the mission.. Also they believe that the Agent reward and Bounties have decreased in value.
I can understand if CCP want to make characters do differing agents to escalate to l3 at the same time..whilst building SP
and try to stop noobs going to l3 a.s.a.p. and flying ships they simply dont have the skills for.
But what is going on.... Are l3's gonna be group missions only?? whats it gonna take to do a l4??
Anybody else seen the aggression level heighten.. comments appreciated
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Brolly
Caldari
The Department of Justice
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Posted - 2006.09.06 12:14:00 -
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I found the lvl 4's quite challenging now, started doing them in a Domi (only got bs lvl 1 atm  ). There seem to be more bs's, bc's instead of cruisers and mor destroyers.
Personally I'm quite happy with the change, the old missions seemed to lack a certain adge and the money seems better.
It has been a few months since I did lvl 4's, plus the change from raven to domi has probably altered my perception regarding the hardness(is that even a proper word?) of them.
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Depko
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:31:00 -
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 Originally by: RedeyeAce
k, just some further info.. i was using a t2 small shield booster on the destroyer with the afforementioned resists.. and still have to warp on l2's
Spoke to the pilots involved in that Massive Attack mish and it was a l3 and they both had to warp around 10 times to complete the mission.. Also they believe that the Agent reward and Bounties have decreased in value.
I can understand if CCP want to make characters do differing agents to escalate to l3 at the same time..whilst building SP
and try to stop noobs going to l3 a.s.a.p. and flying ships they simply dont have the skills for.
But what is going on.... Are l3's gonna be group missions only?? whats it gonna take to do a l4??
Anybody else seen the aggression level heighten.. comments appreciated
agents seem to give more implants, than before. this results in flooding the market with them and prices are going down a lot (up to 20%). |
Liegus
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Posted - 2006.09.06 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: RedeyeAce
Spoke to the pilots involved in that Massive Attack mish and it was a l3 and they both had to warp around 10 times to complete the mission..
A Ferox pilot with low skills and all T1 gear can do Massive Attack without warping. Tell your friend to read this and then fit for EM and Thermal damage.
I hear that the bonus stage could potentially require a warp-out, but I never found the tag to get into that so I wouldn't know. 
Originally by: RedeyeAce
But what is going on.... Are l3's gonna be group missions only?? whats it gonna take to do a l4??
I daresay that level 3's and 4's are all easily soloable even for a pilot with modest gear and skills, provided he does his homework. (The vanilla way to do them is battlecruiser for level 3's, battleship for level 4's.)
It may be much harder to do a lot of these missions with a gang, because some will aggro all at once if multiple players jump in.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:44:00 -
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gotta laugh here level 2 mission in a destoryer u do know they are cruiser - Assualt frig in terms of soloing.
Hope that helps destroyers do the dmg but lack the protection
Thx
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Foxtrot986
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:34:00 -
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You should definitely use a cruiser for level II's. It will make them much easier.
I have not noticed a change in difficulty of the missions since the patch. They seem to be the same to me.
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Celeste Storm
Gallente
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: RedeyeAce
Also Massive attack lvl 3 which we did as a 2 player team mish.. 2yr old player with ferox and me in the merlin it used to be a walk in the park (using the ferox to tank).
Now I went pop, the ferox couldnt hold tank and nor could a a Domi, they had to warp out about 10 times to complete the mission.. Whats going on....
I feel sorry for noobs doing WC now L1. Anyone else seen the same thing happen... It's only since Tuesdays patch.
I did Massive Attack L3 on tuesday in my phoon, nothing changed. Its easy soloable. It took me about 40min incl. looting. After this I got Serp.Extra and just for the fun of it I did it in my AC-Mach. Not much to say here, almost all frigs & destris insta poped and almost all cruisers where gone in under 30sec.
But there is one disturbing thing I've noticed: The loot has been nerfed to bull****. Tbh I sick of complaining about it and now draw my consequences. I cannot explain or understand why CCP give a fu**ckin **** about those whiners (see my sig), who cannot stop demanding that CCP should drives us all out of empire in 0.0 space where the BIG whiners corps can eat us alive.
want some blob with ur gate camp? no, thx. 
After all I'm getting more and more angry each day. Maybe its time for some change in my business.
whiners make m3 s!ck | Do you like farmers?
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Caius Sivaris
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: RedeyeAce
I feel sorry for noobs doing WC now L1. Anyone else seen the same thing happen... It's only since Tuesdays patch.
Actually they made that one easier. It used to be that you had to fly like 35km in the "high damage room" to the gate and now it's less that 10. Any 1 day old that skilled for afterburner will be able to complete it if he bothers to read carefuly the mission blurb.
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Marine HK4861
Caldari
Seoltachd
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Celeste Storm
But there is one disturbing thing I've noticed: The loot has been nerfed to bull****. Tbh I sick of complaining about it and now draw my consequences. I cannot explain or understand why CCP give a fu**ckin **** about those whiners (see my sig), who cannot stop demanding that CCP should drives us all out of empire in 0.0 space where the BIG whiners corps can eat us alive.
If you can't see what's offensive about your sig, then to be honest you deserve what you get.
CCP obviously found something wrong with it, otherwise why'd they uphold the complaint?
And by the way, using a state controlled newspaper as proof for your statement; you're being either extremely naieve or intentionally ignorant.
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Celeste Storm
Gallente
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Marine HK4861
Originally by: Celeste Storm
But there is one disturbing thing I've noticed: The loot has been nerfed to bull****. Tbh I sick of complaining about it and now draw my consequences. I cannot explain or understand why CCP give a fu**ckin **** about those whiners (see my sig), who cannot stop demanding that CCP should drives us all out of empire in 0.0 space where the BIG whiners corps can eat us alive.
If you can't see what's offensive about your sig, then to be honest you deserve what you get.
i see... so what do I get? come on tell me. 
Originally by: Marine HK4861
CCP obviously found something wrong with it, otherwise why'd they uphold the complaint?
And by the way, using a state controlled newspaper as proof for your statement; you're being either extremely naieve or intentionally ignorant.
wtf ur talking about? whats offensive? naming facts?
And what has ccp to do with my sig and about what complaint r u talking? stop eating these drugs m8.
And about this newpaper thing: this is no _anti capitalistic propaganda_ but an article about their own people. I doubt u actually read it, so pls stfu. 
Do u believe all u see in tv or read in western newspapers? do u say all what is written there is the truth? so much about being naive or ignorant, m8. u make me laugh - grow some balls.
whiners make m3 s!ck | Do you like farmers?
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Marine HK4861
Caldari
Seoltachd
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Posted - 2006.09.07 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Celeste Storm
I cannot explain or understand why CCP give a fu**ckin **** about those whiners (see my sig)
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CCP obviously found something wrong with it, otherwise why'd they uphold the complaint?
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wtf ur talking about? whats offensive? naming facts?
The fact that your signature has been edited before it was let back onto the forum is proof that it was offensive and that CCP agreed it was too.
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And what has ccp to do with my sig and about what complaint r u talking? stop eating these drugs m8.
It's called the EULA and TOS, which you agreed to when you subscribed to the game.
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And about this newpaper thing: this is no _anti capitalistic propaganda_ but an article about their own people. I doubt u actually read it, so pls stfu.
I prefer the Sing Tao Daily. The government has less control over a Hong Kong based paper.
I never said it was propoganda, but if you think every story hasn't been vetted by government officials, then you really are clueless.
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Do u believe all u see in tv or read in western newspapers? do u say all what is written there is the truth? so much about being naive or ignorant, m8.
It's not a matter of whether I believe everything I read or see in the media. It's whether I choose to use those sources as facts to support an argument, as you've done.
EVE is just a game. You're getting annoyed because of all the changes CCP have made to it - you don't like the changes they've made, don't buy their product.
Simple as that.
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Celeste Storm
Gallente
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.09.07 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Marine HK4861
The fact that your signature has been edited before it was let back onto the forum is proof that it was offensive and that CCP agreed it was too.
Just to clarify this, I edited the sig not CCP.
Originally by: Marine HK4861
EVE is just a game. You're getting annoyed because of all the changes CCP have made to it - you don't like the changes they've made, don't buy their product.
Simple as that.
Now I understand how simple your life must be.
Please excuse when I now stop arguing with u about my sig, but I dont see any sense in it. My advise is, petition it and let the mods remove it. I'll leave the *snip*-message in my sig, so all may see your great victory.
P.S.: Sorry to tell you, but I'll stay in Eve. 
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