Ishkur,
active tank,blaster fit with with a neut ,Hobbs and warrior 2's.
set of halos in your head and attack anything bigger than you are .
get in close orbit at 500 , kill their drones with the worriors first, then randsome and/or kill the ship.
see link in Sig, go to losses and role around in the ishkur 's found therein.
note you have to start the engagement on top of them so you're likely going to want a warpin from a Corp mate or alt in a cloaky probing ship.

There are a multitude of Gallente ships that meet your requirements. It depends on what you prefer, where you're going to be flying it and what targets you're planning to fight.

Shield rail rax is strong. Shield blaster rax is also a good choice.

Exeq Navy issue is also a really nice rail or blaster platform.

I would ignore AF's (the suck) and instead check out the tristan if you are interested in frigate pvp

What on earth can a Tristan do that a ton of AFs can't do much better?

Iskhur has a better tank, better damage, better sig radius (aka harder to track) and doesn't lose a large chunk of damage if people kill off a bunch of drones. It's more expensive, but to say AFs suck and then to recommend a Tristan is a bit silly.

I agree with most of what Fenris Orion has to say. Tristan is so much more versatile (thanks to its speed kiting) and because of that I think it makes a better solo / small gang ship. If you can't kill what you find, disengagement / draw is much better than losing a T2 AF.

As for the comet, I don't deny its a good frig. But all things equal- It can't touch the slicer. Another ship that I think also has great use is the dual rep incursis. That is a nice blaster brawling frig. Also another to consider is the rail incursis for scram / web kiting. Both are good options.

Why do Af's suck? Outside of the Slicer Retribution and the arty wolf- they have no use for a solo / small gang player.

The reason why a T1 frigate like a tristan is superior to an AF for a solo / small gang player is 4 fold.

1. Cost
2. Looks far less scary, so you have the potential to get more / better fights
3. Much faster
4. Has a larger engagement profile.

There is nothing a tristan / dual rep Incursis cant do that an Ishkur can.

AF's are bad, and will continue to be bad. You are paying 3/4 times the cost of a T1 cruiser for what? AF's have:

1. Worse Speed. (MWD ishkur when armor fit is UNDER 2K/S.... let that sink in for a second. 2k/s is not playable when you are solo / smallgang. ALL t1 cruisers are faster than you. If you try and brawl a T1 crluiser, they will either kite the **** out of you, or just brawl you down and crush you. Consider that your Ishkur has 0 range, and I hope you can start to see the failings of the hull. anything outside of HONERABLE 1V1 BRAWLING FRIGS AT DAWN the ishkur fails at completely.

2. Less EHP
3. Less DPS
4. Less Projection
5. Cost More
6. Require more SP to fly effectively

I will never understand why FW players have a hard on for AF's. Just not a usable hull for solo or small gang. They have some utility sitting inside of FW plexes- AB, full armor tank and logi. However beyond that they are just bad.

Why do Af's suck? Outside of the Slicer Retribution and the arty wolf- they have no use for a solo / small gang player.

The reason why a T1 frigate like a tristan is superior to an AF for a solo / small gang player is 4 fold.

1. Cost
2. Looks far less scary, so you have the potential to get more / better fights
3. Much faster
4. Has a larger engagement profile.

There is nothing a tristan / dual rep Incursis cant do that an Ishkur can.

AF's are bad, and will continue to be bad. You are paying 3/4 times the cost of a T1 cruiser for what? AF's have:

1. Worse Speed. (MWD ishkur when armor fit is UNDER 2K/S.... let that sink in for a second. 2k/s is not playable when you are solo / smallgang. ALL t1 cruisers are faster than you. If you try and brawl a T1 crluiser, they will either kite the **** out of you, or just brawl you down and crush you. Consider that your Ishkur has 0 range, and I hope you can start to see the failings of the hull. anything outside of HONERABLE 1V1 BRAWLING FRIGS AT DAWN the ishkur fails at completely.

2. Less EHP
3. Less DPS
4. Less Projection
5. Cost More
6. Require more SP to fly effectively

I will never understand why FW players have a hard on for AF's. Just not a usable hull for solo or small gang. They have some utility sitting inside of FW plexes- AB, full armor tank and logi. However beyond that they are just bad.

I'm inclined to consider this advice because /Chessur/ but judging by your comments and from what I can see without bothering to look at your KB, you don't seem to do a lot of merc stuff or HS wars.

You can fit a small neut and 3 blasters in the highs of an Ishkur vs only 3 blasters for the Incursus. Combined with the dps of the extra drones on the Ishkur on what is probably already a strained cap due to trying to tank almost 300 dps, that neut is sometimes the final nail in the coffin for a missioning BS.

In the context of HS warfare, I'd argue that the Ishkur is unparalleled as far as non-pirate ships go.

Any properly fitted misison BS is going to thrash a single ishkur. My reasons are as follows:

1. Ishkur that is fully armor tanked up, is looking at a sub 2K/S MWD speed. That is pathetic. The ever popular missioning machariel is going to kite you, endlessly. So will any tempest hull, and phoon hull.

2. A small neut will do nothing to BS cap levels. If you had 10 of them, sure- I can see something happening. Even then however, heavy cap boosters are the best defense against neuting. Most proper fit BS will have them. The argument for a single neut being the clutch factor for choosing an AF is a weak argument.

3. 300 DPS does not break a proper XLASB + 1 Invuln tank on a shield BS, its going to do even less when you consider armor tnaks. No singular AF is going to be breaking a proper BS. Frigate DPS barring full gank enyos are of little consequence.

4. Because the ishkur is limited to only 3 mid slots, you don't have the luxury to run a dual prop. Because of this, and the ishkurs very low base speed- actually using your frig sig tank to mitigate damage, is much more difficult / unlikely.

Now I am sure that people have solo'd BS's in AFs. I have no doubt in my mind that KM's exist. However I am basing my argument on both players being competent. And in a competent world, the AF is bringing nothing to the table, a competent BS pilot will **** on you. Now if the argument is (I hunt retards in high sec so AF's work just fine for me) then so be it. However if that is the argument that is taken, my last piece of advice would be this: Why settle for mediocrity, when you can kill so much more efficiently using other tools?

In the context of HS warfare, I'd argue that the Ishkur is unparalleled as far as non-pirate ships go.

More puke on to paper arguments, and ranting about punching above weight class, friends, maxed linked, pirate implanted, drugged up AF's killing PvE bears...

I think there are various notable HS entities that would back me up on this.

Stuff from Chessur

Train up for a Gila. The ship is incredible and can take on almost anything. It's basically a Cynabal on steroids that uses drones.

Cheaper things:

triple rep myrm is great

VNI is also really good

Taranis is nice too.


Lots of good choices but I would go with the Gila.

You can kill ships under TD. I have been 3x TD from a crucifier before- and still killed ships in his gang. Just comes down to flying technique. If i see tracking Script, i need to adjust my flying. I have some fraps of this, however i dont have it uploaded to youtube currently.

Any turret based ship can be crippled from TDs. The comets are not immune here. In the comets case, if you are td while brawling- you will die as there is no way to escape. The slicer or kiting comet on the other hand can always disengage if the TDs become too crippling.

In my experience that 1/2 TDs off an unbonused hull generally leave that ship so gimped in fitting, that by kiting i can still dispatch them with ease. It would be even better however if you were flying a tristan- then you can just laugh int he face of all ewar when your drones continue to fire on :)

Any properly fitted misison BS is going to thrash a single ishkur. My reasons are as follows:

1. Ishkur that is fully armor tanked up, is looking at a sub 2K/S MWD speed. That is pathetic. The ever popular missioning machariel is going to kite you, endlessly. So will any tempest hull, and phoon hull.

2. A small neut will do nothing to BS cap levels. If you had 10 of them, sure- I can see something happening. Even then however, heavy cap boosters are the best defense against neuting. Most proper fit BS will have them. The argument for a single neut being the clutch factor for choosing an AF is a weak argument.

3. 300 DPS does not break a proper XLASB + 1 Invuln tank on a shield BS, its going to do even less when you consider armor tnaks. No singular AF is going to be breaking a proper BS. Frigate DPS barring full gank enyos are of little consequence.

4. Because the ishkur is limited to only 3 mid slots, you don't have the luxury to run a dual prop. Because of this, and the ishkurs very low base speed- actually using your frig sig tank to mitigate damage, is much more difficult / unlikely.

Now I am sure that people have solo'd BS's in AFs. I have no doubt in my mind that KM's exist. However I am basing my argument on both players being competent. And in a competent world, the AF is bringing nothing to the table, a competent BS pilot will **** on you. Now if the argument is (I hunt retards in high sec so AF's work just fine for me) then so be it. However if that is the argument that is taken, my last piece of advice would be this: Why settle for mediocrity, when you can kill so much more efficiently using other tools?

I can already fly the Gila. and I have a myrm and Brutix both multi rep, but i'm more or less looking for cruisers and smaller to fly around in Low Sec alone/small gang.

The Federation Navy Comet is probably the best frigate in the game.

It's fast, tough, hard hitting and it has ridiculous versatility. You can mwd kite, scram kite, or blaster brawl with equal effectiveness And your enemy has to guess which one until he lands on grid. Oh and it also can field 2 flights of 3 light drones which is an additional 40-60 dps and a decent deterrent to liters. I don't fly the comet much because the slicer is such a sexy looking ship, but in terms of sheer PvP utility the comet is a demon.

Good luck taking that against a Worm.

1) doesn't matter how fast they are if you start the engagement on top of them , which is almost always the case.
2) immediately no but over time it will.
3)no but you can only carry so many capboosters
4) with halos boost and drugs you will have a smaller Sig than a light drone, that combined with the t2 resist means the only thing you are in any real danger from are drones, which an ishkur with warrior 2s will eat.
These things are a nightmare for anything cruiser sized and up that you can catch and note that I specifically said "bigger stuff"

dual rep thorax, make sure you're using exile.

[Thorax, dualrep]
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II

Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Acolyte II x5

What on earth can a Tristan do that a ton of AFs can't do much better?

Iskhur has a better tank, better damage, better sig radius (aka harder to track) and doesn't lose a large chunk of damage if people kill off a bunch of drones. It's more expensive, but to say AFs suck and then to recommend a Tristan is a bit silly.

I was really comparing the comet to t1/navy frigs and AF's. Obviously the worm kills anything smaller than a cruiser besides a linked Garmur that laughs at drones.

but but but I can tackle ******** mission runners in hisec which my clueless blob of clowns then kills, therefore Ishkur is a good solo PVP ship

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