I also understand that as of now, many of the ships have not been finished due to old textures rendering badly with the new system. Why release this on Tranquility when so many ships are displaying poorly?

IMO the overall look of ships in EvE has been greatly degraded by the new lighting system and I am bitterly disappointed by some of the choices the art team have made. I hope that major improvements will be made - pretty spaceships are what make this game desirable in the first place, their appearance is central to every player's experience.

However there are some issues that we are fully aware of and are working hard to fix. The textures we are using were not made for PBR and it was a massive undertaking for the art team in a relatively short time to convert the textures and we will need to revisit a lot of them in the future. I-¦m aware of a lot of issues with some of the factions like for instance Sansha that was tweaked before we got the oil part of the PBR shader working properly. We plan to revisit all of them in the future and will look for feedback on the forums.

We are also looking into the "washed out" look and lack of sharpness as well as the dirt and scuffing on the ships looks very rough and flat. We have made some progress there and we will have to work out the best way to implement that as soon as possible.

07 Huskarl

Reflective surfaces and chrome has been used excessively where they needn't be - often forming half of the entire surface area of a ship (aka new Incursus model).

You are used to how it was before even though it was wrong before.

^From the test forum https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5273961#post5273961

So, work in progress as i see it. This step had to be taken before the next.
Will be fixed, soonGäó.

My ship currently occupies about 5 pixels, and so should yours so I fail to see the issue here.

Please cry more about something that is a work in progress and CCP said several times that this is only the first step.


And most of the ships I looked at yesterday look really awsome now, with some being too shiny (which was allready said somewhere else).

Thanks for posting this Pak, its a reassuring to know that CCP have officially acknowledged that there are issues.

I've made a post in the official feedback already, though I wanted to talk in a bit more detail about why I think the new lighting system is very unsatisfactory. I am running the game on maximum graphics settings.

The crisp, contrasting dark textures we used to have on the ships seem to have been replaced with a muted, characterless grey base that flattens the entire design of ships rather than lifting them out. I suppose this new grey stuff passes for metal, but to me it looks more like injected plastic. The contrast is very weak with these new shades of grey, making ships appear very unnatural in the space scene due to the lack of perceived depth. Detail has been lost on every hull.

Consistent colour schemes for races seem to have been completely thrown out of the window - replaced by a mish mash of discordant palettes for different ships, often completely changed from their original hue. Where the colours haven't been completely changed to something discordant, the game renders them with grossly desaturated and washed out alternatives. Some ships have very questionable new colour choices that clash, whilst others just seem like duller, flatter imitations.

Reflective surfaces and chrome has been used excessively where they needn't be - often forming half of the entire surface area of a ship (aka new Incursus model). This just seems like lazy texturing to me, replacing areas that should be richly detailed rather than looking like a chromed platinum ingot of spaceship-mass. The same goes for the chrome/gold shine more notable on Gallente/Amarr ships, which has been applied over generously to many random exterior parts of the ships.

Lastly, the way in which light is projected onto ships does not feel organic. A white sun in eve now casts what look like studio lights or a pre-render test onto the ship, often completely obscuring the colours + detail below. The effect is far too bright, and covers far more of the model than it used to. This effect is especially noticeable on older models with more flat surfaces and straight lines/shapes.

CCP, I understand that this new lighting system will pave the way for a multitude of cool customisation and graphical 'features' in the future. However, this upgrade needn't destroy years of focused, consistent art direction for the sake of perceived technical superiority.

I also understand that as of now, many of the ships have not been finished due to old textures rendering badly with the new system. Why release this on Tranquility when so many ships are displaying poorly?

IMO the overall look of ships in EvE has been greatly degraded by the new lighting system and I am bitterly disappointed by some of the choices the art team have made. I hope that major improvements will be made - pretty spaceships are what make this game desirable in the first place, their appearance is central to every player's experience.

Whenever I see you people complaining about awesome stuff the devs put in the game and STILL you are not happy about them (although they are ultimately uber awesome and great) all that goes thtough my mind, on repeat, is Maximus Decimus Meridius screaming at the crowd " ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?! "

Seriously now - buhuuu the UI is too bright, buhuu warp makes me dizzy, buhuu the colors are too deep.
It's like 90% of you people were born after 8-bit graphics and stuff...

Seriously now - buhuuu the UI is too bright, buhuu warp makes me dizzy, buhuu the colors are too deep.
It's like 90% of you people were born after 8-bit graphics and stuff...

Wow, you're bad at bad posting.

Wow, you're bad at bad posting.

his mummie dropped him on his head

My ship look like a turd now - literally =(