That was already on my list of stuff to ask but if your there its all yours.

I'll have to check on that, will let you know tomorrow hopefully. Not trying to hide anything just I don't want to put names down without okaying it with them first.

I can't make the call, but I would like to have more research type clothing, a lot of what's on the market seems military. Labcoats, spectacles in differing styles, more boot height options (knee high, over knee, thigh), and the ability to have dresses that don't require slacks or trousers be worn under them.

Clothes!! What!?? Count me in. As you can see, I've always been a fan of the more...provocative attire some would call indecent

I want long, curly hair!!!!!
OMGOMGOMG!!!!
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*jumps around*

Devs attending.

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Thank you for doing this.

I echo the calls for more professional options. I have always wanted a lab coat. I would also like lighting options for darker-skinned avatars. I am tired of people asking me to lighten my portrait up when I am already standing under the brightest lights available. I would also like to be able to smile without resembling a psychopath. It should still be possible to look like a psychopath, for those inclined.

Those of us with prominent cheekbones have clipping issues with some of the hairstyles. Those of us who are not skinny also get interesting clipping issues around the upper arm and chest with some items of clothing.

I understand that I may forever be up on my toes, but more footwear that is not sexy would be nice.

Unfortunately, I am unable to attend, as I am in the US.

It is, but then I lose the warm skin tone. I would like to have more than one option.

Rose colored glasses (under head) and your request (under hats) has been added, thanks.

I think it always helps to have a structured discussion, so knowing what's been suggested in the past will help you and others attending to prioritize what to talk about with the CCP devs.

The poll could be a long term sounding board for the playerbase to express to CCP (and their player representatives) what they are interested in for portraits and avatar customization. Edit: I am working on visual metrics for the results..

Do you have any suggestions on how it could be better advertised? I know you're pretty good at this sort of thing..

Edit: Tweeted. Please retweet.

More than imposing new clothing options or new options for character creator, first I would like CCP devs to say something informative about the clothing team, unreleased clothes amount and who worked on character creator (also what former character creator team is doing now), can they come back for these options, and most importantly, who would decide about it and why would they decide so.

If you look at the results with 40+ respondents you already see some patterns emerging.

I believe the list does the opposite of what you are saying. It bounds the conversation to a limited requested list, and since I've limited respondents to only choose 3 options in any category it also focuses their feedback to items that are most important to them.

I think it's better than trying to generate talking points out of thin air..

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For a person without a shirt you have a good grasp on Clothing in general! You are reading us all like a book!

More Clothes for the Clothes God! More Fashion for the Fashion Throne!

Assumin the art team would be intrested in adding to character customisation I'd like to offer some twist on already posted ideas:

- variable lenght hair - during creation / resculpt you'd pick hair color, lenght (in form of nice segmented sliders, maybe) and then shape / hairstyle (available options depending on selected lenght). I'd like to be able to give myself ankle-lenght wuxia-style black braid. :)
- variable size clothes - right now all clothes, especially pants, are form-fitting, some almost looking like they were shrink-wrapped onto models; maybe there could be option to make them 1-2 sizes bigger, more draped and twisting, maybe add something in style of yukata top, loose sleeve shirts, etc.
- more accesories in the form of wearable cybernetics (forearm-worn pda, "smart" bracelets and wristwtches)

I'd be online at the time anyway, so I'd like to join the discussion.

One does not simply peel The BananaGäó.

I can confirm Candi has adorable armpits.

No ones having my armpits.

CCP is satisfied with the interest shown in character creation and avatar customization. Women's Eternity and Men's Gurista outfits have been doing well.

Did I? I really don't remember it, but CCP karkur is actually a copy of another character that was made on Sisi and was lost a few days later when Sisi was mirrored. So I know it's possible, but it would require quite a bit of work to make it available to players, and is more a question of priorities (not just for the character work, but also the rest of EVE).

I was talking about gender change. I don't like race change but can understand it for the reasons you mention. And anyway I'd rather have racial blending, as Indahmawar is 25% Gallentean.

If there's one thing you should have walked away with from the meeting, it is an appreciation for how constrained the design resources are for this aspect of the game. It's 2 people, for male and female designs. Two. That is it. And these guys appear to be doing all the backend work too.

It doesn't seem like the way in which you are expressing your opinion is a very good thing. I would like to avoid a communication style that is comparing the work of two obviously very overloaded design guys with "horses asses" and things like that.

Do you really want these guys to fix a problem that only yourself and Kate seem to have such an issue with (I've yet to see another person with this opinion), or would you rather they work on other things? I'm surprised I have to explain this to you. Our requests should ultimately constitute of very short lists and be laser focused on things we want the most that fit CCP's design philosophy.

I am sure she meant that noone in CCP wants it, because it was utterly difficult to make, she even statet that in the discussion.

Yes 2 people, and they work on interiors for trailers and such, but they do not do animations. Probably guy who does it for spaceships is working on it from time to time. So much for avatar content. Legion is heavy on those design patterns but moving anything to EVE from legion is unfeasible, they statet so, so we are generally ******.

I am sure she meant that noone in CCP wants it, because it was utterly difficult to make, she even statet that in the discussion.

Yes 2 people, and they work on interiors for trailers and such, but they do not do animations. Probably guy who does it for spaceships is working on it from time to time. So much for avatar content. Legion is heavy on those design patterns but moving anything to EVE from legion is unfeasible, they statet so, so we are generally ******.

2 persons is also the manpower behind the whole audio and music of EVE (or so I hope, as one of the 2 developers in Team Klang left the company).

The big guns certainly are aligned with other interests. And all in all, CCP as a company laid off 20% of their employees since last year... including most if not all of the people who knew anything about Carbon-based avatars.

it's pretty good for letting an important question hang in the air.

Potentially. And what if you try to push more people in that dev team and towards Incarna and suddenly potentially it doesn't pay off? "Oh no. We have to lay off whole team because we don't have enough money to pay for tap water"

The sad guy will come, than this guys, and at the end...

I think they have to be carefull developing all those games at once.

This one hundred times.

Why is it a kick to RPs? We can have immortality through clones, so why can't we have gene manipulation?

I'm unattached to my char because CCP changed it to something else than what I picked. All I want is the option to make her look like I want her to look.

@Mike: I remember that. But there is still a long way from talking with CSM to actually implementing it.

HA! That's pretty much impossible with Vherokior.

Well, here you can see my two Brutor (the Fock sisters), side by side: http://i.imgur.com/qDc34Dy.png

I think they look more as sisters than as belonging to the same bloodline. And before doing thme, I thought that only Sebiestor could be pretty.

Should I take a crack at making something actionable out of the tail end of the thread? Seems like a lot of discussion and debate is at eventual risk of falling into the proverbial black hole..

I think a long term CC/portrait feature list aggregator would be a nice platform for CSM/CCP discussions.

What do you guys think?

Ok, if you want to take a crack at it, let us know how we can help you.

Thanks.

Ok, if you want to take a crack at it, let us know how we can help you.

Thanks.

I don't want to say another poll. I think it would be useful to have something more focused so that we can all flesh out some more specific ideas, instead of splashing paint on a wall. Whatever it is also needs to account for our rather diverse tastes as well.

I have to think about it..

Edit: full disclosure, I'm a day or so away from being gone for 6-7 months..