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Bub Rub Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.09.08 05:46:00 - [1] I have edited the ini file but it will not use above 256MB of RAM, which I believe is the cause for my 1 second hiccups every 20 seconds or so. It is very annoying.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.08 05:51:00 - [2] Maybe more RAM isn't the answer? EVE's memusage for me rarely goves over 200k. I have 2 gigs of RAM, that doesn't mean the game can/will use/need it. The hiccups might be a connection thing, do some pinging of the server and maybe a tracert? Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath
Valeo Galaem InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.08 06:37:00 - [3] Edited by: Valeo Galaem on 08/09/2006 06:38:04 The operating system assigns RAM to a program as necessary. The option in the INI file is for some undocumented internal feature in EVE, not for the total amount of RAM it is allowed to access. In my experience, EVE will rarely use anything near 256MB of RAM (my average being at 220MB, and I have 1GB RAM total with 25% still available). I really think your "hiccuping" issue has to do with something other that the amount of RAM that EVE is using. It might be a factor, but I'm saying there are probably other things at work. You might want to look at what else is running on your system in task manager. Some things that I think might cause a periodic "hiccup" would be I/O related. Check that you do in-fact have enough physical RAM in your computer (at least 512MB is needed today); depending on your page file too much is bound to slow things down. Of course, programs running in the background may cause some problems. Check that you don't have any unnecessary file transfers or even virus scanning going on or anything of the like. Thar be Pirates You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe Your Wallet has been emptied! CONCORD Encryption
Bub Rub Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.09.08 07:26:00 - [4] Well it is certainly reading from the HDD during these stutters. I am not sure if it EVE however. Will have to narrow it down, I was just curious if there was a way to get more than 256MB out of this thing, but apparently not. Anyone else get this stuttering?
Directive	Posted - 2006.09.08 07:35:00 - [5] For me, stuttering is almost always caused by incompatible graphics settings in Control Panel. Some games don't like AA, while some have no problems with it. Some are absolutely unplayable with V-Sync on, others require it. And so on. Could be one of those too.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.09.08 07:36:00 - [6] First: Disable ingame sound. Second: Try disabling the combat logging, or better theat the logs are written to disk. Third: Disable your anti-virus-software's feature to constantly scan your system. You do not need that feature active unless you're pretty sure your computer got an infection. You might reenable it when you're surfing the web. If you got a keylogger or something like that already on your system, it might be the right time to totally reinstall everything from trustworthy mediums. --==*-- Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment.
Steven Dynahir Gallente Avaruuslaivanrakentajat Oyj	Posted - 2006.09.08 07:40:00 - [7] Buy more RAM! --- Sell orders Recruitment
spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.09.08 07:45:00 - [8] Have you got Office installed? It might be the "automatic file indexing for fast searching", see if you can turn that off.
Bub Rub Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.09.08 07:46:00 - [9] 2G of RAM. Sounds like the log might be the issue if I had to guess, thanks for the tips guys. I notice I get a second or two pause whenever I return drones to bay or launch them as well.
Steven Dynahir Gallente Avaruuslaivanrakentajat Oyj	Posted - 2006.09.08 07:48:00 - [10] Originally by: Bub Rub 2G of RAM. Sounds like the log might be the issue if I had to guess, thanks for the tips guys. I notice I get a second or two pause whenever I return drones to bay or launch them as well. That is called, server side LAG. I have been experiencing it for about.. 2.5 - 3 years. --- Sell orders Recruitment

Wild Rho Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.09.08 07:50:00 - [11] One small thing I have noticed. Do you read the eve forums when playing? I can't speak for anyone else but when I open a thread it shows what everyones saying etc but it's still in the process of downloading somthing (sigs usually). This causes a little stutter every few seconds in the client until I hit the stop button in the borswer, after which everythings all find and dandy again. WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your ass will be laminated. - Jennie Marlboro
Bub Rub Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.09.08 07:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Wild Rho One small thing I have noticed. Do you read the eve forums when playing? I can't speak for anyone else but when I open a thread it shows what everyones saying etc but it's still in the process of downloading somthing (sigs usually). This causes a little stutter every few seconds in the client until I hit the stop button in the borswer, after which everythings all find and dandy again. Yes, I do usually leave firefox open and may or may not have the forums open, I haven't noticed, I will check this out. I guess it could be server side lag as well, but it seems to hit me even when I am in station doing nothing...
Matthew Caldari BloodStar Technologies	Posted - 2006.09.08 07:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Bub Rub Well it is certainly reading from the HDD during these stutters. I am not sure if it EVE however. Will have to narrow it down, I was just curious if there was a way to get more than 256MB out of this thing, but apparently not. Anyone else get this stuttering? Only time I get anything like this is when I'm running too much stuff. Periodic stuttering I generally find is due to something else kicking in and stealing too much processor time (e.g. excel's autorecover kicking in to save my spreadsheets). If I start running out of ram, that produces a more sluggish general performance rather than periodic freezes. You could try leaving task manager open and see if your freezes coincide with a spike in processor usage, and then try and see which non-eve process is hogging the CPU. Eve itself very rarely needs to use 256MB. If eve isn't using that much, it means Eve doesn't need that much - the only time I've seen it exceed that is when a memory leak problem kicks in, and that's not actually useful use of the RAM. One thing I've found that a lot of people don't expect to be a CPU-hog, but can be, is web browsing. This is largely down to the prevalence of badly-written flash animated advertising banners. The page itself will take almost no CPU time, but the flash animation will suck up a lot. The 20 seconds you mention between freezes also sounds a lot like the usual cycle time of a banner ad. So if you usually play while having pages with those sorts of ads open, try closing the page, or getting an ad-blocker to get rid of the animations. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.
Matthew Caldari BloodStar Technologies	Posted - 2006.09.08 08:03:00 - [14] Originally by: Bub Rub Yes, I do usually leave firefox open and may or may not have the forums open, I haven't noticed, I will check this out. I guess it could be server side lag as well, but it seems to hit me even when I am in station doing nothing... One thing to clarify here - what exactly do you mean by "freeze"? If it's just that there is a delay between you clicking something, and it opening/activating/etc, then that's likely server-side lag. If your client is actually stopping responding, frame rates take a nosedive etc, then it could client-side. Just bear in mind that certain actions (mainly market and P&P activities) tend to make the client pause while it's fetching data from the server, so if it only happens when you do specific things, then it could still be server-side lag holding you up. Also, leaving the market window open in the background can be a bad idea, it will update itself periodically, which can give you a second of delay while it gets all the orders again. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.
Albus Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.08 11:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Wild Rho One small thing I have noticed. Do you read the eve forums when playing? I can't speak for anyone else but when I open a thread it shows what everyones saying etc but it's still in the process of downloading somthing (sigs usually). This causes a little stutter every few seconds in the client until I hit the stop button in the borswer, after which everythings all find and dandy again. I have had the same issue, but have found that it's IE specific. Firefox is quite happy to sit there waiting for sigs etc. without hogging the CPU and making eve stutter.
Benco97 Gallente Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.08 11:16:00 - [16] you know, it's odd. i've got 512 ram in my main pc and I don't get this. my friend's pc lags and he's been told to get more ram but he has the same amount as me.. Head of the Fedo Appreciation Group (F.A.G) and Registered Fedo breeder
Grim Vandal	Posted - 2006.09.08 11:16:00 - [17] Originally by: Wild Rho One small thing I have noticed. Do you read the eve forums when playing? I can't speak for anyone else but when I open a thread it shows what everyones saying etc but it's still in the process of downloading somthing (sigs usually). This causes a little stutter every few seconds in the client until I hit the stop button in the borswer, after which everythings all find and dandy again. exactly Greetings Grim
Malibu Stacey Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.08 11:39:00 - [18] I noticed some graphical stuttering recently when in deadspace missions (my gaming system also has 2GB of RAM). All the deadspace missions I've been in have these clouds of gas in them which were chopping the framerate for me until I turned off Anti-Aliasing in the Eve client. On the graphical tab it's the options in the far bottom left of the window. When docked, set it to disabled & then click close window then hit escape & quit the client. Open the client & it should be off (that's the only way I got it to stay off). Also try updating your graphics drivers if they aren't too recent. If you have a Radeon GPU I recommend the Omegadrivers from www.omegadrivers.net instead of the standard ATi Catalysts as they're tweaked for gaming performance, quality & stability. Originally by: Steven Dynahir That is called, server side LAG. I have been experiencing it for about.. 2.5 - 3 years. Ever heard of client-side prediction? Nah didn't think so. It helps if you know what you're talking about before posting but if that were the rule the forums would have 90% less activity. Eve actually uses very little network activity when compared to most online games. I've looked at it using Wireshark/Ethereal at my old job as I was trying to get around the firewalls so I could train skills. But hey researching what you're talking about before you start making proclaimations has never been a requirement on the internet. --- Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
DocJB Gallente Decadence.	Posted - 2006.09.08 12:04:00 - [19] Do you have some system monitoring program running like mother board monitor or something similar? I have noticed that some of these programs can cause these problems as they query informations in intervals. For me eve runs fine with a cache of 256mb set in the prefs.ini. I do also have 2 GB of Ram but i have not noticed any benefit of setting the cache higher than 256mb. sorry for eventual misspelling, my english isn't that good anymore.
Matthew Caldari BloodStar Technologies	Posted - 2006.09.08 12:21:00 - [20] Originally by: Malibu Stacey On the graphical tab it's the options in the far bottom left of the window. When docked, set it to disabled & then click close window then hit escape & quit the client. Open the client & it should be off (that's the only way I got it to stay off). Isn't that one of the options that you only get access to by manually enabling it in the prefs.ini file anyway? Might explain why it's not 100% reliable Originally by: Malibu Stacey Ever heard of client-side prediction? Nah didn't think so. It helps if you know what you're talking about before posting but if that were the rule the forums would have 90% less activity. How is client-side prediction going to reduce the time between you clicking "activate" on a module, and the server actually activating it for you? Or between someone else clicking "activate" and you seeing them start to shoot at you? Client-side prediction can only predict based on things it knows about, so is of no help in these situations. Originally by: Malibu Stacey Eve actually uses very little network activity when compared to most online games. I've looked at it using Wireshark/Ethereal at my old job as I was trying to get around the firewalls so I could train skills. But hey researching what you're talking about before you start making proclaimations has never been a requirement on the internet. Server lag != Connection Lag. Connection Lag is where your connection is limiting the speed of response from the server. Server lag is when the server is at high load and there is a delay before the server even generates the response. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.

Garramon Gallente Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Tachy Second: Try disabling the combat logging, or better theat the logs are written to disk. I have to make sure my log is closed or I get stuttering. For some reason the fact that ~50% of the people replying to the thread fail to read and understand the point of the OP is hilarious.
Snowpig United Alliance Nova Republic	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:41:00 - [22] on a dual-core CPU set the affinity to only one CPU, which helps a lot.


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