EVE Search - IBM + CCP = Happy servers?

Check My IP Information

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

IBM + CCP = Happy servers?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 1 post(s)
spiralJunkie Minmatar Eve Radio Corporation	Posted - 2006.09.08 20:36:00 - [1] This story says that maybe, yes: Quote: CCP Games announced today the largest supercomputer cluster in the history of the gaming industry for EVE Online, one of the leading science fiction Massively Multiplayer Online Games (MMOG). The upgraded server cluster features dual-processor 64-bit AMD Opteron-based IBM BladeCenter LS20 blade servers, as well additional enhancements to the clusters internet backbone. _ The pundits in the studio are talking , and despite not knowing what any of this means I am riveted
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.09.08 20:38:00 - [2] IBM Chick + Oveur = Instant sale --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. I pwnz0r your sig, muahaha - Tirg Noes i got beat by a girl >.< - Xorus
Azerrad InExile	Posted - 2006.09.08 20:52:00 - [3] I wonder if this is something new or just formally announcing the previous server upgrades...
Gonada Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.08 20:53:00 - [4] new i bet -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Chaimera Grumpy Old Farts	Posted - 2006.09.08 21:01:00 - [5] I already posted this earlier. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=391353 Beware of the killer grumpies!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.09.08 21:23:00 - [6] I say, we are seeing the beginning of skynet Recruitment
var'ulfur Caldari blackwater	Posted - 2006.09.08 21:32:00 - [7] skynet goodterminator has to take his place in line :) talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
Beovvulf Revelations Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.08 22:26:00 - [8] Yeah, but who gets it? Us or China?
Kenz Rider	Posted - 2006.09.08 22:29:00 - [9] Originally by: Beovvulf Yeah, but who gets it? Us or China? China is a meaningless piece of CCP's medium-term revenues. They may have received a nice up-front license fee from the Chinese sponsor, but that's it. - - - -- - - - -- - - - -- - - - Little known fact: 95% of DS's signatures have nothing to do with EVE.
Kldraina	Posted - 2006.09.08 23:16:00 - [10] I'm pretty sure that is an announcement of what we currently have, not what is coming.

Pepe Prawn	Posted - 2006.09.08 23:17:00 - [11] old news I am not a shrimp! I am a king prawn, okay?
DropZone 187	Posted - 2006.09.08 23:44:00 - [12] Once you get through the propaganda of it alledging to be the 'fastest' as op stated but wasn't claimed in the article, it is just common hardware available out on the market. Linden Labs (Second Life) has a far larger cluster btw iirc. Going with IBM was probably a bad decision both from a business perspective and overall performance. The cost savings alone of going with an hp super rack would have provided them with more and better equipment as has been demonstrated in real world industries such as oil & gas exploration. Not a big fan of either hp or IBM, but when it comes to the numbers in the analysis, hp is hands down better. Then again, I am not sure of the internal particulars that impact the cost side of the fence. The fiasco IBM did with Matrix Online may have resulted in CCP getting way better pricing as having two failed attempts into the mmo market would have shunted IBM away from the industry. Keep in mind that in 5-10 years the online community population through mmo may eclipse that of all other forms of entertainment so if you don't get a good stangehold now you could be losing out quite considerably down the road. At least it isn't running on Sun gear :)
TheMantisCH	Posted - 2006.09.08 23:50:00 - [13] 50,000 concurrent users, another server upgrade then? Linkage
eveplayer11	Posted - 2006.09.08 23:59:00 - [14] Edited by: eveplayer11 on 09/09/2006 00:03:00 hp doesnt have the worlds(commersial anyway and alot of months ago) fastest SSD, IBM have alot of buiseness(err) benefits, while hp is more for smaller buisenessezzz.. imo ofc! for large stuff IBM is the way to go, for small/medium its a flavor/wallet thing. imo....
vyperpit Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.09.09 00:05:00 - [15] Originally by: Death Kill I say, we are seeing the beginning of skynet imo AI will happen within our lifetime [assumiong ur not 80years old] if all else fails here is how [oh and im giving you guys the ingredenets to become the next richist man probably from when u ***** it to eternity] get a really really fast computer [much faster than current day, but able to process physics at a decent speed, doesnt quite have to be real time] [this is simple, wait and hope computers progress like they have been doing int he past 20years] get a high resolution MRI scanner, probably need much better than today, basicly need resolution to be on the order of cells perhaps more program with laws of physics, probably dont need most, just the basics, im pretty sure we have this already 1x live test subject, scan fullbody [might get away with just the brain] input into simulation, interact with program just as u would a human, if it works, the test subject in the computer will sure be shocked oh, yeh i know there are many many many problems, like in QM u can know where a particle is and its momentum so perhaps taking the high res MRI wouldnt be detailed enough ect just to name one out of probably hundreds.
DropZone 187	Posted - 2006.09.09 00:19:00 - [16] Originally by: eveplayer11 Edited by: eveplayer11 on 09/09/2006 00:03:00 hp doesnt have the worlds(commersial anyway and alot of months ago) fastest SSD, IBM have alot of buiseness(err) benefits, while hp is more for smaller buisenessezzz.. imo ofc! for large stuff IBM is the way to go, for small/medium its a flavor/wallet thing. imo.... I thought TMS was claiming to have the fastest SSD.... As for IBM benefits - they end at the mainframe level. hp does more in in large enterprise business btw (and I am not talking the compaq side of the house) as the price per performance ratio is far better than IBM's offering. Anyhow it is an opinion shared by many :) when million/billions are on the line for your core business. That leads to another things - IBM absolves themselves of all and any liability in their contracts. Others will have their own opinions such as the 'let's build it from scratch!' - then they forgot about support... Besides, using your own statement, CCP should be using hp gear. After all, they would only be considered a small business (sub 500 employees) in the grand scheme of things :)
Shiraz Merlot Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2006.09.09 00:50:00 - [17] Originally by: DropZone 187 Going with IBM was probably a bad decision both from a business perspective and overall performance. The cost savings alone of going with an hp super rack would have provided them with more and better equipment as has been demonstrated in real world industries such as oil & gas exploration. Not a big fan of either hp or IBM, but when it comes to the numbers in the analysis, hp is hands down better. Posting from a position of ignorance and speculation = lose. You can get some spectacular deals out of IBM if you play hardball with them. I know; I have. /sm
eveplayer11	Posted - 2006.09.09 02:03:00 - [18] well in 2004+ it was IBM..
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2006.09.09 02:04:00 - [19] /me in defence of IBM smax the HP fanbois MOOCIFER Emerald/Alpha Oldtimer
Khatred Lacuna Viators	Posted - 2006.09.09 02:49:00 - [20] IBM, HP, etc, who cares, everything is Made in Taiwan anyway _______________________________________________ CCP please hold my hand. I suck at Eve and I can't compete with other players in a multiplayer environment.

Gray Carmicheal Caldari Fallout Industries	Posted - 2006.09.09 02:54:00 - [21] Originally by: Khatred IBM, HP, etc, who cares, everything is Made in Taiwan anyway Amen. And yeah, I think these was the last server upgrade a while back. Mmm Boobies.
DropZone 187	Posted - 2006.09.09 05:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Shiraz Merlot Originally by: DropZone 187 Going with IBM was probably a bad decision both from a business perspective and overall performance. The cost savings alone of going with an hp super rack would have provided them with more and better equipment as has been demonstrated in real world industries such as oil & gas exploration. Not a big fan of either hp or IBM, but when it comes to the numbers in the analysis, hp is hands down better. Posting from a position of ignorance and speculation = lose. You can get some spectacular deals out of IBM if you play hardball with them. I know; I have. /sm Sure you can get good deals out of them when they believe they are getting the better end of the bargain. Tons of gear just sitting in storage loses them money.... As for your swipe at myself, ignorance and speculation is not a position I am ever in when it comes to high end IS/IT. I will just leave it at that. In the old days, the common expression was you couldn't get fired for using IBM. These days it is the opposite.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.09 05:47:00 - [23] Originally by: DropZone 187 In the old days, the common expression was you couldn't get fired for using IBM. These days it is the opposite. I've had so many horrible experiences with HP equipment, from desktops to supercomputers... --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Johnathan Roark Caldari Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.09.09 05:48:00 - [24] Originally by: DropZone 187 Originally by: eveplayer11 Edited by: eveplayer11 on 09/09/2006 00:03:00 hp doesnt have the worlds(commersial anyway and alot of months ago) fastest SSD, IBM have alot of buiseness(err) benefits, while hp is more for smaller buisenessezzz.. imo ofc! for large stuff IBM is the way to go, for small/medium its a flavor/wallet thing. imo.... I thought TMS was claiming to have the fastest SSD.... As for IBM benefits - they end at the mainframe level. hp does more in in large enterprise business btw (and I am not talking the compaq side of the house) as the price per performance ratio is far better than IBM's offering. Anyhow it is an opinion shared by many :) when million/billions are on the line for your core business. That leads to another things - IBM absolves themselves of all and any liability in their contracts. Others will have their own opinions such as the 'let's build it from scratch!' - then they forgot about support... Besides, using your own statement, CCP should be using hp gear. After all, they would only be considered a small business (sub 500 employees) in the grand scheme of things :) Who said anything about the eve cluster not using a TMS SSD? The article just said SSD, didn't say brand. Here is an article about the first one the eve cluster got. Linkage Im under the impression that the eve cluster has mutiple now. Corporation Management Improvement
DropZone 187	Posted - 2006.09.09 05:48:00 - [25] Originally by: MOOstradamus /me in defence of IBM smax the HP fanbois Ok, but I not a 'fanboi' of either :) I am just saying for the performance to price ratio, hp wins hands down. hp support is better, they have better qualified staff, better hardware suppliers, etc, etc.... The only time I have seen IBM win is on the mainframe end, where you really don't have much of a choice when you have an OS/390.... Even there, I have seen third parties bidding on those rfps using 'refurbished ones' and just increase the support coverage to surpass that of IBM's standard service for a fraction of the cost. Both companies have dropped their mid tier - IBM with RS 6k platform and hp with their pa-risc 9000 series, but if you compared hp-ux to aix, it is pretty obvious which was better. Plus CCP could have gone to Armari (http://www.armari.co.uk/) and had a nice sweet rig built (these guys mess around with commercial Cray's in their spare time) from a a well respected bespoke manufacturer. Basically they would be like the equivalent of a amg in the vehicle after market industry..... Ok, this can go on for days and it would still not make a bit of difference...
Eilie Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.09 09:27:00 - [26] Originally by: vyperpit Originally by: Death Kill I say, we are seeing the beginning of skynet imo AI will happen within our lifetime [assumiong ur not 80years old] if all else fails here is how [oh and im giving you guys the ingredenets to become the next richist man probably from when u ***** it to eternity] get a really really fast computer [much faster than current day, but able to process physics at a decent speed, doesnt quite have to be real time] [this is simple, wait and hope computers progress like they have been doing int he past 20years] get a high resolution MRI scanner, probably need much better than today, basicly need resolution to be on the order of cells perhaps more program with laws of physics, probably dont need most, just the basics, im pretty sure we have this already 1x live test subject, scan fullbody [might get away with just the brain] input into simulation, interact with program just as u would a human, if it works, the test subject in the computer will sure be shocked oh, yeh i know there are many many many problems, like in QM u can know where a particle is and its momentum so perhaps taking the high res MRI wouldnt be detailed enough ect just to name one out of probably hundreds. Somehow I doubt it'll be that simple... Though I would love to be able to scan my brain into a computer and live forever!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.09.09 09:43:00 - [27] Originally by: vyperpit imo AI will happen within our lifetime [assumiong ur not 80years old] viva la resistance Recruitment
MysticNZ Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2006.09.09 09:52:00 - [28] Originally by: DropZone 187 Once you get through the propaganda of it alledging to be the 'fastest' as op stated but wasn't claimed in the article, it is just common hardware available out on the market. Linden Labs (Second Life) has a far larger cluster btw iirc. Going with IBM was probably a bad decision both from a business perspective and overall performance. The cost savings alone of going with an hp super rack would have provided them with more and better equipment as has been demonstrated in real world industries such as oil & gas exploration. Not a big fan of either hp or IBM, but when it comes to the numbers in the analysis, hp is hands down better. Then again, I am not sure of the internal particulars that impact the cost side of the fence. The fiasco IBM did with Matrix Online may have resulted in CCP getting way better pricing as having two failed attempts into the mmo market would have shunted IBM away from the industry. Keep in mind that in 5-10 years the online community population through mmo may eclipse that of all other forms of entertainment so if you don't get a good stangehold now you could be losing out quite considerably down the road. At least it isn't running on Sun gear :) Get a clue and stop this hp/ibm bull***. Go troll else where. -=====- Xorus is teh nub :D I heard that beats player with big stick* now be a good carebear and mine me some veldspar - Xorus

Jacques Archambault Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.09 10:02:00 - [29] Thread cleaned. Please do not derail this topic with discussions about hp vs IBM - this is not the place for it. -Jacques' forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website! Want to be an EVE-Online forum moderator? click here!

Deidranna SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2006.09.09 11:15:00 - [30] Not Skynet... Its Shodan Look at you, Player ... A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you play your game. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine ? GM Eldini > Hi, behaving are we?



Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.

I am not a shrimp! I am a king prawn, okay?