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Frank Draconian
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Posted - 2006.09.08 21:22:00 -
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Looking to set up a stabber for tanking for mission runs, should I focus on shields or armor? Right now I've got a cap booster, med. shield booster and AB in the mid slots; a gyro stabilizer, tracking enhancer and small armor repairer in the low.
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Valea Silpha
Cereal Killerz
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.08 21:30:00 -
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Level 2 is pretty much the best you can do in a stabber. I used 180mm ACs/Assault launchers in highs, AB, web, large shield extender in meds and 2 pdus and a gyro in lows. It'll handle most anything in lvl 2.
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Frank Draconian
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Posted - 2006.09.08 22:47:00 -
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ok noob question, by pdu do you mean power diagnostic system?
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Ras Blumin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.08 22:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Frank Draconian
ok noob question, by pdu do you mean power diagnostic system?
yeah. It's a leftover from the past.
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Frank Draconian
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Posted - 2006.09.09 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Valea Silpha
Level 2 is pretty much the best you can do in a stabber. I used 180mm ACs/Assault launchers in highs, AB, web, large shield extender in meds and 2 pdus and a gyro in lows. It'll handle most anything in lvl 2.
tried this setup and it didnt really work well for me. Particularly on the mission about bringing a murder to justice, or something like that. There, they nail you with EM missiles, so the shields were taken down pretty quick even with the extra capacity. Second, why would you need 2 PDUs with that setup? with a webber and AB as your only cap draining mods, you don't really have to worry about the cap bonus, and the slight increase you get to shield HP is nice, but not really worth it. Shield recharge rate isn't that useful for combat, just periods between. I switched it up a little and went with large shield booster instead. I also replaced the 2nd PDU with cap power relay, just because my electronics skill was a little too low to fit another PDU. but the slight decrease in shield boosting is negligent considering how much a major boost you get with cap recharge time.
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Durok Torn
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Posted - 2006.09.09 05:00:00 -
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I used the stabber for a while on L2s and I got along fine! You should tank both armor and sheilds a bit if you wanna survie. Plates and extenders, plus a repper or sheild booster. Try this:
med: supplimental barrier extender, we, AB
low: power diagnostic,s plates (biggest you can fit), armor rep
The web and AB let you make sure the baddies stay at a range your guns like, and you can better hit those pesky frigs that orbit fast.
Good luck!
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Rehmes
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Posted - 2006.09.09 05:19:00 -
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Stabber wont tank much to begin w, but i use a med armor rep a DCU and a gyro in the lows. My meds have a ab/web/scram or ecm depends of what ill be doing in a gang......
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Bottled Brain
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Posted - 2006.09.09 10:27:00 -
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4 dual 180mm ac, 2 assault launcher
10mn ab, cap recharger, large cap battery
med armor rep, 2 energized membranes (npc specific)
You donŠt need a web if you fly your ship in a straight line in relation to your target.
But you will need an ab to get into weapon range.
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Davros Johnstone
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Posted - 2006.09.09 14:17:00 -
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I'm surprised noone has mentioned it, but the rupture totally owns the stabber for tanking. Which makes it better at running missions imho. just get a rupture, lash on a load of armor tanking gear and bingo you'll have a ship that can mash lvl 2s.
Neither minimitar cruiser will fare well soloing lvl 3s.
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Qutsemnie
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.09 22:07:00 -
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I actually prefer the stabber for level 2s out of all cruisers not just ruptures. Its faster. Since both can do the missions the faster ship is better. I 4xfrigate gun it with energy weapons except for the missle slots which I heavy. I armor tank it and I even slip in nanofibers for speed =). Only time the rupture is better imo is when you are fighting the fleet stabbers. The rest of the time the stabber will have the faster turn around time.
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Frank Draconian
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Posted - 2006.09.09 22:24:00 -
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well its one lvl 2 mission thats giving me a problem with the stabber so far and that's "murderer brought to justice." I decided that for that particular mission, to drop the webber and go with a EM shield resistance amp. Not really the best setup for other missions though. I agree with the slowness of the rupture, since that makes closing range, and loot collecting take that much longer.
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Azmura
Minmatar
The Black Fleet
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.10 11:44:00 -
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Why are you running lvl 2 missions in a cruiser? I'm not saying I'm the best pilot, but I did them in my Rifter quite easily.
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Frank Draconian
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Posted - 2006.09.10 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Azmura
Why are you running lvl 2 missions in a cruiser? I'm not saying I'm the best pilot, but I did them in my Rifter quite easily.
no offense, but you are either a liar, confused, or only did a couple lvl 2 missions and got lucky getting easy ones. The general consensus is a cruiser is the minimum ship you need to do level 2's. Some are possible with destroyers, until you run into 5 or 6 missile boats at once.
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Venkhar Krard
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Posted - 2006.09.10 14:35:00 -
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Nope.. try it in an armor tanked rifter.
You can do all lvl 2 missions in it.
The mourderer brought to justice is one of the easier ones.
3 x 150mm 1x rocket launcher
1 x ab 1x web 1x cap recharger
1 x small armor repairer 1x 200mm reinforced plate
1 x capacitor power relay
Stay on AB and orbit them at 500-1000m
You need about 600.000 sp (tank and cap) to do it.
The only tricky one, is Human Cattle.
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Frank Draconian
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Posted - 2006.09.10 15:26:00 -
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Well if that's the case, then I apologize to Azmura. Although I tried lvl 2's in a rifter ( not with that setup), and got taken apart in seconds. When I asked for help, pretty much everyone said I shouldn't be doing lvl 2's in anything less than a cruiser, not counting people who had their combat skills trained way up ( but in that case, why are they still on lvl 2's?)
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Venkhar Krard
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Posted - 2006.09.10 15:46:00 -
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Well, you can do them in a rifter, but most missions are easier, faster and more profitable in a Rupture. The Rifter is for fun.
If you are doing missions for Minmatar, you should change your tank from shield to armor. There are a lot of Em and thermal dealing npcs in those missions. The Mourderer btj is a shield tank killer and is really easy, once you tank your armor.
And dont underestimate frigates, you can avoid a lot of damage with them.
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Vizgoth
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Posted - 2006.09.10 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Frank Draconian
( but in that case, why are they still on lvl 2's?)
Because somepeople do other things before starting missioning. I do lvl 2's easy with a rifter (passive tanked) then lvl 3's even easier with a jaguar. But I do missions for amarr. With shield operation and shield management 5 they are all easy. Not sure about running missions for minmitar since I never did, but amarr I have done even the easier lvl 3's in a punisher.
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