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Captain Creo
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Posted - 2003.10.18 22:49:00 -
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Anyone can now kill everywhere with current war decleration status. A group of fighters can now kill everyone in the universe by using the disband corp and start a new one tactic. They can camp in empire space and do a fast war decleration when they find a group of inocents to kill. They repeat the process until they reach three corp limit. Then disband corp and start a new one with 3 fresh corp victims of their choosing.
What will the future hold if CCP doesn't change war declarations to both sides must agree?
I will tell you what will happen. Total chaos and massive growth in the pirate sector. Those factors will lead to tons of newbs quitting the game and less total revenues for Eve leading to less services for all us long time players.
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Torqamada
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Posted - 2003.10.18 23:12:00 -
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1. Declarations of war are not anywhere near instantaneous. It takes 24 hours for any voting members of a corporation to vote on the war declarion. Once past it takes 24 more hours before you can actually attack an opponant without penalty. So it typically takes 2 days. In no way will you be able to camp and see a group and attack them right then.
2. There is no need to disband to reset the 3 wars counter. The corp. who declares war may surrender thus ending the war and gaining back its slot. This has been fixed for most if not all corporations for some time now.
If you do disband the corp and start a new one the GMs will hear of it via complaints and investigate to see if it was for reasons to exploit. ( I know because we were investigated and found innocent during the time it was not fixed - it is also impractical if you have multiple hangers and shared items.)
It sounds like you have been a war target. All I can advise is to make it not worth their time to use your corporation as a war slot. Either disberse once they are spotted so it is a waste of their time, or act in concert with armed ships to make it not worth their losses. Last there are typically other groups who will fight for you so make an appeal to the corp community.
It is not the nightmare you describe.
Torqamada
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.10.18 23:44:00 -
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the only thing that is considered an exploit in the war system is leaving your corp to avoid combat with a corp-war enemy.
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Cattraknoff
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Posted - 2003.10.19 00:24:00 -
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easy fix: only let a player create a corp once per week
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2003.10.19 02:38:00 -
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so far Ive seen two people of a corp we are fighting leave their corp just to save their worthless clones
Need to make it so if your at war you have to wait 3 days to a week to leave the corp
(CEO can still insta kick but you cant rejoin a corp your kicked from for a week)
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.10.19 05:03:00 -
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Just petition and the GMs will spank the bastards
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DrStrangelove
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Posted - 2003.10.19 11:08:00 -
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1) get rid of concord.
2) put all the noobs in seperated regioin until they feel confident enough to join the rest of the gaming comunity or until they hit 1 mil skill points.
3) disregard 1 and 2.
m0o corp
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Serge
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Posted - 2003.10.20 07:13:00 -
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4. get rid of strangelove! idiot! want to shoot noobs? not enough targets?
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McWatt
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Posted - 2003.10.20 07:59:00 -
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serge, you did not at all understand what the dr. said. you might want to reread his post.
and to the original question:
the war system is broken and always has been.
it s no wonder as TomB is a fan of "consensual war", which is exactly what we have at the moment.
please try it once, before you start shouting ANARCHY.
we need:
1. limits to leaving a corp at war
2. reasonable amount of war slots
3. ways to end a war
4. war on individuals
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Skelator
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Posted - 2003.10.20 22:29:00 -
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the only thing that is considered an exploit in the war system is leaving your corp to avoid combat with a corp-war enemy.
Is this a Real GM statement Viceroy?
If so Eaglefour and Loki28 have done it to our corp!
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2003.10.21 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Nepereta on 21/10/2003 11:39:46
I believe Newbs that supply your enemy (ie corpmates) with slave mining are worthy of destruction, since they are the little cash cows.
I would warn little enemy corpmate newbs in frigates to cease their affiliation with my enemy otherwise they become my enemy.
Enemy corpmates in cruisers/bbs are fair game since they have played long enough to get a cruiser.
But persuasion, taunts and threats can go a long way to scaring off newbs from a corp you hate. I believe an example is required first however.
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Alpha
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Posted - 2003.10.22 01:27:00 -
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The reason this is happening is because the big corps want to fight more than 3 wars at a time,,, 3 wars is boring,, we want to fight 10 wars at a time... allow more simultaneous wars and this should stop the larger corps making new corps just to start more wars... I agree that is u are in a corp,, you shouldnt be able to corp hop or change corps for 1 month. if you get kicked u stay a member of that corp for 1 month without access rights,, etc etc,, problem solved,,, now give us 20 war slots so we can take over the universe ;)
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lukka
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Posted - 2003.10.22 15:11:00 -
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Numbers of declarations of wars should be different for a 10 member corp and a 100 member corp. Perhaps 1 war for every 30-40 members and every corp can have 3 wars as a base?
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Kunming
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Posted - 2003.10.22 15:47:00 -
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There IS... another solution...
First think of the real world!
If a country declares war on some other country without any good reason then its products are ambargoed by the rest of the world.
So here comes my ideas; if a corp declares war just to pirate in secure space then their products should be ambargoed for a long time (a month or so)... They wont be able to buy or sell anything an thus loose their power because of economical reasons.
The problem is no one ever knows if the war is a "legal" one or just an exploit, so to solve this CCP could put a voting system where other corp CEOs have so much votes as their members... I think it could work but guess such a thing must be tested first.
Back to the other issue, after founding a corp the CEO shouldnt be able to disband it with in a month or something like that.
Well another thing that bothered me is that a large portion of u r corp members could pull the corp into a war and then just leave, so while the corp has un ended wars declared members shouldn't be able to leave unless the CEO kicks them. (U can think of it like a membership agreement)
I have a lot of other ideas that could fix the major exploits, but they r out of topic for now.
<Kunming Out>
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Steady Eddy
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Posted - 2003.10.22 20:20:00 -
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There IS... another solution...
First think of the real world!
If a country declares war on some other country without any good reason then its products are ambargoed by the rest of the world.
I think someone forgot to tell the US and UK about that 
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PoXiE
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Posted - 2003.10.22 20:41:00 -
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Im going to use Everlasting Vendaettas lame ass tactics as an example here.
EV, being one of the older corps in EvE, has all of thier war slots full.
What do they do?
The start a new corp, declare war on Enigma Federation, and camp gates in Yulai so they can kill them.
Then they're all like...
omgwtfpwndb*tch
Does anyone else think this is a very lame tactic to killing or is it just me?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.23 07:21:00 -
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Quote:
Im going to use Everlasting Vendaettas lame ass tactics as an example here.
EV, being one of the older corps in EvE, has all of thier war slots full.
What do they do?
The start a new corp, declare war on Enigma Federation, and camp gates in Yulai so they can kill them.
Then they're all like...
omgwtfpwndb*tch
Does anyone else think this is a very lame tactic to killing or is it just me?
I think you'll find it's just you.
Did you find a fire extinguisher by the way?
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Dowcipnis
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Posted - 2003.10.23 10:57:00 -
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IMO anyone who leaves a corp at time of war should be podded on site by the rest of Eve ! I mean, just how much of a slime ball coward are you???
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