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Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.12.16 01:40:23 -
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I am killing incursion rats in belts, but getting absolutely nothing for it. No loot, no bonuses, is it normal? |

Paranoid Loyd
3029
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Posted - 2014.12.16 01:45:20 -
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Yes
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Ishen Villone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2014.12.16 02:20:13 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:I am killing incursion rats in belts, but getting absolutely nothing for it. No loot, no bonuses, is it normal?
I suggest you stop, then. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4085
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Posted - 2014.12.16 02:32:29 -
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Some of the incursion rats will only show up on your PVP overview settings, those ones have worse AI but much better loot. CONCORD defends them in highsec, but ganking them can still be profitable...
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.12.16 02:39:05 -
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well, so far I killed 6 rats and only got some trash salvaging, less than i get from normal rats. I thought those incursion rats were supposed to give more loot or something as they are harder to kill
Not sure what do you mean, that they show only on PVP settings? |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
7483
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Posted - 2014.12.16 02:41:49 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Some of the incursion rats will only show up on your PVP overview settings, those ones have worse AI but much better loot. CONCORD defends them in highsec, but ganking them can still be profitable... They have occasionally been known to run missions aswell, like anomalys these requirements the use of probes to find but they have great loot drops, though they do have fairly squirrely ai so will require either ganking or nuanced aggressive tactics to bring down.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Mali Talvanen
4
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Posted - 2014.12.16 02:44:22 -
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idk, those that attack me I see them all on my radar |

Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
263
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Posted - 2014.12.16 02:58:30 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Some of the incursion rats will only show up on your PVP overview settings, those ones have worse AI but much better loot. CONCORD defends them in highsec, but ganking them can still be profitable... They have occasionally been known to run missions aswell, like anomalys these requirements the use of probes to find but they have great loot drops, though they do have fairly squirrely ai so will require either ganking or nuanced aggressive tactics to bring down. Have you seen those at the gates? These must be the literally dumbest rats ever. They warp to 15 to the gate and then slowboat towards it, as if they WANT to get killed! That's some stupid AI, really.......
(I feel kind of sorry for the OP :/ OP, you should check your journal, loyalty points...) |

Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4089
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:00:13 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:idk, those that attack me I see them all on my radar
Just to clarify my sarcasm, I'm referring to player incursion runners. You can shoot those and steal their stuff, but there are consequences. If you can mitigate those, you can make serious isk.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Mali Talvanen
5
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:08:44 -
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Sol Project Ty, didn't know about Loyalty points. No need to feel sorry for me it is fun anyway. No I haven't seen any at the gates, but in one belt there had been kind of fleet of them with one big ship and 3 smaller ones, that killed all my t2 drones and almost destroyed my ship. If those are what you mean mission ones.
Sabriz Adoudel Missed the sarcasm lol as I am not English speaking. And I wouldn't dream of shooting any players, especially in High Sec.
But my original question was, why there is no loot of them or any kind of bonus. but if they give loyalty points it is ok then
Just checked no loyalty points either |

Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
265
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:12:01 -
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Thats odd, these rats should give CONCORD LP... |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
7485
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:12:04 -
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I should probably clarify then that i was also being sarcastic and referring to missionrunners
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Mali Talvanen
5
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:14:32 -
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Sol Project wrote:Thats odd, these rats should give CONCORD LP... That was what I was driving at originally. Seems to me like some kind of bug, if it was not intended that way
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Mali Talvanen
5
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:15:40 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I should probably clarify then that i was also being sarcastic and referring to mission runners Well, thank you, didn't understand that was sarcasm as well. thought you were saying that incursion rats behaviour resembles that of the players
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Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
265
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:19:25 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I should probably clarify then that i was also being sarcastic and referring to mission runners Well, thank you, didn't understand that was sarcasm as well. thought you were saying that incursion rats behaviour resembles that of the players No idea what they are talking about, but I can guarantee you that at the gates there are tons of capsule NPCs who want to get shot at.
Daily. Hourly. Every minute!
That being said... can you tell us the names of the rats? I feel like they should give LP... |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:21:20 -
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Sol Project wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I should probably clarify then that i was also being sarcastic and referring to mission runners Well, thank you, didn't understand that was sarcasm as well. thought you were saying that incursion rats behaviour resembles that of the players No idea what they are talking about, but I can guarantee you that at the gates there are tons of capsule NPCs who want to get shot at. Daily. Hourly. Every minute! That being said... can you tell us the names of the rats? I feel like they should give LP...
Hmm, not sure if i remember them, sansha rats in Trigentia, Sonama |

Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4089
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:31:41 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I should probably clarify then that i was also being sarcastic and referring to mission runners Well, thank you, didn't understand that was sarcasm as well. thought you were saying that incursion rats behaviour resembles that of the players
I was saying that the rats have better AI.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Mali Talvanen
5
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:35:34 -
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When you kill incursion rats, shouldn't you get log of it in the journal? |

Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1838
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:39:53 -
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Shooting incursion rats outside of incursion anomalies is entirely pointless. They are there to inconvenience people (no mining, no mission running etc etc ) because an incursion is bad and in fact not a fancy battleship owners club meeting, where the ISK flows better than the champagne and the blood. |

Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
265
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:41:44 -
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I remember shooting incursion belt rats and they gave LP.... ... a few years ago, though. |

Mali Talvanen
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:42:11 -
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Kiandoshia wrote:Shooting incursion rats outside of incursion anomalies is entirely pointless. They are there to inconvenience people (no mining, no mission running etc etc ) because an incursion is bad and in fact not a fancy battleship owners club meeting, where the ISK flows better than the champagne and the blood.
ok thank you, I understand it now, thought was something wrong with my client, as i get no logs in the journal and i had problems with the launching the game all day yesterday. but if it is normal, then it is ok
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Ishen Villone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.16 03:55:54 -
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Mali Talvanen wrote:Kiandoshia wrote:Shooting incursion rats outside of incursion anomalies is entirely pointless. They are there to inconvenience people (no mining, no mission running etc etc ) because an incursion is bad and in fact not a fancy battleship owners club meeting, where the ISK flows better than the champagne and the blood. ok thank you, I understand it now, thought was something wrong with my client, as i get no logs in the journal and i had problems with the launching the game all day yesterday. but if it is normal, then it is ok
You have to complete the incursion sites to get anything from incursion rats.
I highly recommend a faction battleship with faction/deadspace modules if you plan to solo these. |

Mali Talvanen
5
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Posted - 2014.12.16 04:00:53 -
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Ishen Villone wrote:Mali Talvanen wrote:Kiandoshia wrote:Shooting incursion rats outside of incursion anomalies is entirely pointless. They are there to inconvenience people (no mining, no mission running etc etc ) because an incursion is bad and in fact not a fancy battleship owners club meeting, where the ISK flows better than the champagne and the blood. ok thank you, I understand it now, thought was something wrong with my client, as i get no logs in the journal and i had problems with the launching the game all day yesterday. but if it is normal, then it is ok You have to complete the incursion sites to get anything from incursion rats. I highly recommend a faction battleship with faction/deadspace modules if you plan to solo these.
Ty, no I do not plan anything like that, just was killing rats that were attacking me when I had been mining. Just wanted to know how all this system works. |

Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
269
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Posted - 2014.12.16 10:00:16 -
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That makes no sense. Did that get changed??
Beltsanshas definitely gave me CONCORD LP. |

Chaotix Morwen
Ugly Duckling Inc
17
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Posted - 2014.12.16 10:38:44 -
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Im under the impression that you only receive your loyalty point reward once the incursion is completed, I recall receiving some random lps 3 days after i killed some incursion belt rats. |

Mali Talvanen
5
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Posted - 2014.12.17 00:21:24 -
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Ty. Well I will wait until after incursion. I am not that much worried about that reward as of if my client is ok. After last patch I hadn't been able to launch the game and had to use a repair tool. I downloaded new one, but for some reason the date on it still shows as of an old one, so I thought maybe I just do not have all recent changes or something. I haven't been playing for a long time, just came back a few days ago. |
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