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Theroine
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2014.12.18 05:35:58 -
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Ladies and gentlemen of Factional Warfare and Warfare & Tactics, I feel there has been a steady decline in the quality of forum interaction of late, with threads that would have barely received a handful of replies a year or so ago now going on for pages. To paraphrase Jean Anouilh, framed in the perspective of FW posts to W&T, GÇÿYour posts are soft weapons; hold them in your hands too long, and they will move about like snakes, and strike the other way.GÇÖ
Let us not appeal to fear, prejudice or the flag-waving half-truths of people of wishful authority. The big lie of pretending to be the common man while cherry picking quotes out of context only obfuscates rationalizations of unstated assumptions, thus generating posts ad nauseam of exaggeration, loaded language, name-calling, and scapegoating. While euphemisms of intentional vagueness, wrapped around straw man arguments or red herrings, in an attempt to manage the news, demonize the enemy, or gain latitudes of acceptance might provide moments of euphoria or a milieu of control, in the end these actions only result in stereotyping and an oversimplification of issues.
Things are rarely black or white no matter how fervent a testimonial is or how often it is repeated. Unshackle yourselves from the operant conditioning you have endured through disinformation, lying, and deception, lest you be found guilty by association through your acceptance of the love bombs and glittering generalities of the beautiful people of W&T. Continued jumping on the bandwagon to demonize the enemy, to frame their actions, or label them through pithy slogans of inevitable victory only leads to levels of cognitive dissonance that even a post in the form of a thought-terminating clich+¬ canGÇÖt penetrate.
I call on you, my brothers and sisters of Factional Warfare, to adopt a value system that strives to honor words of virtue and shuns a Pens+¬e unique stance on issues and/or degenerates into ad hominem posts.
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Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.12.18 09:35:14 -
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In short, more real talk needed. The propaganda and posturing on all four sides has become overwhelming and has squeezed out the possibility of useful and genuinely informative discussion. The CAOD model is not one we should seek to emulate.
Also props to the op for fitting in more 'figures' into one post than I think I have ever seen on the eve forums |
Elfred Gam'Havoc
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
25
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:06:23 -
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Less jibber jabber more pew pew |
Quentin Marshall
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:28:44 -
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LOL. I almost spilled coffee over my desk reading this. It's pretty ironic considering the hypocrisy of the thread comes from Gallente. Most of the threads on this forum comes from the Gallente circle-jerk train bashing Caldari pilots or epeening how leet they are. If it's not Crosi Weso trolling everyone, it's a JUSTK pilot whining about stabs or a Villore Accord pilot wondering where all the pew pew has gone. |
Arla Sarain
185
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:34:53 -
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Theroine wrote: Let us not appeal to fear, prejudice or the flag-waving half-truths of people of wishful authority. The big lie of pretending to be the common man while cherry picking quotes out of context only obfuscates rationalizations of unstated assumptions, thus generating posts ad nauseam of exaggeration, loaded language, name-calling, and scapegoating. While euphemisms of intentional vagueness, wrapped around straw man arguments or red herrings, in an attempt to manage the news, demonize the enemy, or gain latitudes of acceptance might provide moments of euphoria or a milieu of control, in the end these actions only result in stereotyping and an oversimplification of issues.
Word. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
635
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Posted - 2014.12.18 17:28:28 -
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Quentin Marshall wrote:LOL. I almost spilled coffee over my desk reading this. It's pretty ironic considering the hypocrisy of the thread comes from Gallente. Most of the threads on this forum comes from the Gallente circle-jerk train bashing Caldari pilots or epeening how leet they are. If it's not Crosi Weso trolling everyone, it's a JUSTK pilot whining about stabs or a Villore Accord pilot wondering where all the pew pew has gone.
/sarcasm on As opposed to the CSC pilots who are all epitomies of fine and informative posting /sarcasm off
The real problem is both sides are as bad as each other and neither of them is willing to admit it.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1239
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Posted - 2014.12.18 17:31:29 -
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I already adhere to such a code! |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
1331
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Posted - 2014.12.18 22:39:14 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:Quentin Marshall wrote:LOL. I almost spilled coffee over my desk reading this. It's pretty ironic considering the hypocrisy of the thread comes from Gallente. Most of the threads on this forum comes from the Gallente circle-jerk train bashing Caldari pilots or epeening how leet they are. If it's not Crosi Weso trolling everyone, it's a JUSTK pilot whining about stabs or a Villore Accord pilot wondering where all the pew pew has gone. /sarcasm on As opposed to the CSC pilots who are all epitomies of fine and informative posting /sarcasm off The real problem is both sides are as bad as each other and neither of them is willing to admit it.
But................We do admit that we post rubbish.
Docked since 2009.
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Theroine
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
109
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Posted - 2014.12.19 02:49:01 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Quentin Marshall wrote:LOL. I almost spilled coffee over my desk reading this. It's pretty ironic considering the hypocrisy of the thread comes from Gallente. Most of the threads on this forum comes from the Gallente circle-jerk train bashing Caldari pilots or epeening how leet they are. If it's not Crosi Weso trolling everyone, it's a JUSTK pilot whining about stabs or a Villore Accord pilot wondering where all the pew pew has gone. /sarcasm on As opposed to the CSC pilots who are all epitomies of fine and informative posting /sarcasm off The real problem is both sides are as bad as each other and neither of them is willing to admit it. But................We do admit that we post rubbish. This is true. That's why even though the efficacy of the rubbish is questionable, engaging with you is not an exercise in futility. More often that not, it is quite entertaining.
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Theroine
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
109
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Posted - 2014.12.19 02:55:07 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:Theroine wrote: Let us not appeal to fear, prejudice or the flag-waving half-truths of people of wishful authority. The big lie of pretending to be the common man while cherry picking quotes out of context only obfuscates rationalizations of unstated assumptions, thus generating posts ad nauseam of exaggeration, loaded language, name-calling, and scapegoating. While euphemisms of intentional vagueness, wrapped around straw man arguments or red herrings, in an attempt to manage the news, demonize the enemy, or gain latitudes of acceptance might provide moments of euphoria or a milieu of control, in the end these actions only result in stereotyping and an oversimplification of issues.
Word(s). "Colors fade, temples crumble, empires fall, but wise words endure." - Edward Thorndike |
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Theroine
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
110
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Posted - 2014.12.19 02:59:53 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:I already adhere to such a code! An appropriate reply to the underlying theme of my original post, stated with conviction! "The trite saying that honesty is the best policy has met with the just criticism that honesty is not policy. The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy." - Robert E. Lee
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
1332
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Posted - 2014.12.19 03:21:48 -
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Theroine wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Quentin Marshall wrote:LOL. I almost spilled coffee over my desk reading this. It's pretty ironic considering the hypocrisy of the thread comes from Gallente. Most of the threads on this forum comes from the Gallente circle-jerk train bashing Caldari pilots or epeening how leet they are. If it's not Crosi Weso trolling everyone, it's a JUSTK pilot whining about stabs or a Villore Accord pilot wondering where all the pew pew has gone. /sarcasm on As opposed to the CSC pilots who are all epitomies of fine and informative posting /sarcasm off The real problem is both sides are as bad as each other and neither of them is willing to admit it. But................We do admit that we post rubbish. This is true. That's why even though the efficacy of the rubbish is questionable, engaging with you is not an exercise in futility. More often that not, it is quite entertaining.
We are here for fun and if everyone can get a laugh out of the silliness then that is a bonus.
Docked since 2009.
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Soren Tyrhanos
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
51
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Posted - 2014.12.19 03:29:58 -
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Elfred Gam'Havoc wrote:Less jibber jabber more pew pew
This I like. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
6824
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Posted - 2014.12.19 03:50:53 -
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*munches on popcorn*
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
349
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Posted - 2014.12.19 04:42:08 -
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Theroine wrote:Ladies and gentlemen of Factional Warfare and Warfare & Tactics, I feel there has been a steady decline in the quality of forum interaction of late, with threads that would have barely received a handful of replies a year or so ago now going on for pages. To paraphrase Jean Anouilh, framed in the perspective of FW posts to W&T, GÇÿYour posts are soft weapons; hold them in your hands too long, and they will move about like snakes, and strike the other way.GÇÖ Let us not appeal to fear, prejudice or the flag-waving half-truths of people of wishful authority. The big lie of pretending to be the common man while cherry picking quotes out of context only obfuscates rationalizations of unstated assumptions, thus generating posts ad nauseam of exaggeration, loaded language, name-calling, and scapegoating. While euphemisms of intentional vagueness, wrapped around straw man arguments or red herrings, in an attempt to manage the news, demonize the enemy, or gain latitudes of acceptance might provide moments of euphoria or a milieu of control, in the end these actions only result in stereotyping and an oversimplification of issues. Things are rarely black or white no matter how fervent a testimonial is or how often it is repeated. Unshackle yourselves from the operant conditioning you have endured through disinformation, lying, and deception, lest you be found guilty by association through your acceptance of the love bombs and glittering generalities of the beautiful people of W&T. Continued jumping on the bandwagon to demonize the enemy, to frame their actions, or label them through pithy slogans of inevitable victory only leads to levels of cognitive dissonance that even a post in the form of a thought-terminating clich+¬ canGÇÖt penetrate. I call on you, my brothers and sisters of Factional Warfare, to adopt a value system that strives to honor words of virtue and shuns a Pens+¬e unique stance on issues and/or degenerates into ad hominem posts.
You, my good sir, should be wearing a monocle while posting such eloquent verbiage. |
Domino Vyse
Flipsiders
73
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Posted - 2014.12.21 11:13:17 -
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I just wish there was some kind of icon that only appeared on FW posters, that way I can skip past anything they say really easily. |
greg01
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
40
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Posted - 2014.12.21 12:57:44 -
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If I can just get a word in amongst all the Galmil Pilots congratulating you on such a fine display of text. Obviously, a lot of limited educational background there. I'll keep it simple for you, wouldn't want to steal your thunder and all that.
Along with most of CalMil. I/we will happily adhere to any moral code or mature content that you and your Galmil colleagues set out. All you have to do is start paying for our subscriptions then you can tell us what to do all you like. Otherwise, the hypocracy of faction warfare Comedy Central will continue.
So long as Crosi keeps typing we can't be having that smug (I've done it before everyone else) attitude. The boy islost up his own dark tunnel with no way out!
CalMil best mil
KISS (Keep it simple stupid)
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Theroine
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
112
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Posted - 2014.12.22 05:30:49 -
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greg01 wrote:If I can just get a word in amongst all the Galmil Pilots congratulating you on such a fine display of text. Obviously, a lot of limited educational background there. I'll keep it simple for you, wouldn't want to steal your thunder and all that. Along with most of CalMil. I/we will happily adhere to any moral code or mature content that you and your Galmil colleagues set out. All you have to do is start paying for our subscriptions then you can tell us what to do all you like. Otherwise, the hypocracy of faction warfare Comedy Central will continue. So long as Crosi keeps typing we can't be having that smug (I've done it before everyone else) attitude. The boy islost up his own dark tunnel with no way out! CalMil best mil KISS (Keep it simple stupid)
Thanks for the reply. No thunder stolen. Also, no reason to keep it simple, we've got some pretty sharp spoons in FW. My call for adopting a value system that focused on 'words of virtue' was less a call for a moral code or mature content than it was for raising the bar in our interactions. So for example, if you truly feel that Crosi 'lost the plot' ages ago, there is no need to keep pounding that dark tunnel. Look for fresh fields to sew. As far as paying for your subscriptions is concerned, (Content Deleted).
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