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Apollo Eros
Jaded. The Natural Order
123
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Posted - 2014.12.20 19:47:31 -
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Hey Guys, Quick question. What is it called when someone siege's your home wormhole. Tries to be like Rook's n Kings, fails when trying to Starburst enemies with the large tower they just setup. Then Gets caught off guard and almost looses an Orca, when trying to hell camp. Then when gets confronted with an equal force for a fun fight they leave through the static and close their connection.
Is it Blue Ball? Or is it Blue Fire?
Wait I am pretty sure this has happened before....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nxoUvtGk3Q
Yup. Same Tactics. Same Failure. Same lulz. Same lame style. You guys maybe should try something else... Wait don't..
[Triple OG LVL 5 Space Wizard]
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Billy Hardcore
Jaded. The Natural Order
279
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Posted - 2014.12.20 20:41:27 -
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As ceo of jaded and executor of TNO Alliance I apologize for this posting. It does not accurately reflect the opinions or ideals of the memebers in either Jaded. Or J-bro is not our policy to trash talk and sh!t-post on the forums.
#BillyFleet
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
835
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Posted - 2014.12.20 20:56:18 -
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Billy please offer your members lessons on how to make a proper callout thread, tia.
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Aurrellia
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.12.20 21:08:38 -
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Quality TNO posting. 6/5 would read again. |

Apollo Eros
Jaded. The Natural Order
123
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Posted - 2014.12.21 00:56:15 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:Billy please offer your members lessons on how to make a proper callout thread, tia.
-I was going to make a snide comment along the lines of "Just because you have been killing frigs in Thera | yada yada yada | wormholes | posting on Evo-Forums | then I stopped caring. -Effff it. You are horrible and just because you use to be in Sky Fighters and are now killing Frigs in Thera does not make your opinion or thoughts relevant. Regardless of where your bias may fall.
So pray tell give an example of quality call out threads because you make me wet with anticipation.
Aurrellia wrote:Quality TNO posting. 6/5 would read again.
Although I appropriate your glorious reviews and thoughts. People that post with their PL alts due to some corp rules mean nothing. Please comment back when you get clearance to post with your main.
[Triple OG LVL 5 Space Wizard]
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Peter Moonlight
Balkan Asylum
82
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Posted - 2014.12.21 03:33:48 -
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Apollo Eros wrote:Hey Guys, Quick question. What is it called when someone siege's your home wormhole. Tries to be like Rook's n Kings, fails when trying to Starburst enemies with the large tower they just setup. Then Gets caught off guard and almost looses an Orca, when trying to hell camp. Then when gets confronted with an equal force for a fun fight they leave through the static and close their connection.
Is it Blue Ball? Or is it Blue Fire?
Wait I am pretty sure this has happened before....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nxoUvtGk3Q
Yup. Same Tactics. Same Failure. Same lulz. Same lame style. You guys maybe should try something else... Wait don't..I would like to personally apologize for the above. I am not sure if it was North Korea or my GF trying once again to start **** in wormhole space. Please go about posting top quality threads such as "How to prevent ganks" "PVE inside C4-C6 Space" "More Class 4 Questions" "What should I kill sleepers with" As well as anything else that does not relate to conflict driving. Hey Apollo, long time no see. If all of that is true, that's so funny, and I'm pretty sure everyone wants to hear more about it.
Billy Hardcore wrote:As ceo of jaded and executor of TNO Alliance I apologize for this posting. It does not accurately reflect the opinions or ideals of the memebers in either Jaded. Or J-bro is not our policy to trash talk and sh!t-post on the forums.
Seriously Billy? Now you're being "CEO" and all "serious" thing, I'm pretty sure I don't need to remind you of your posting (trolling) history, if Apollo has a story to tell you should let him do the thing, maybe even get some content or conflict, don't have Jaded. finish like RCC .
Andrew Jester wrote:Billy please offer your members lessons on how to make a proper callout thread, tia. I still remember ganking you while you were killing a POS in your wormhole, and seeing you couple more times running away from me. I also remember you trying to be "blue" with everyone in w-space by acting a puppy and talking sweet to 10+ public channels.. And one day you join SkyFighters/RLLO and you think you can just become another person ? It doesn't go like that, long time residents of these forums will always remember true Andrew |

Peter Moonlight
Balkan Asylum
82
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Posted - 2014.12.21 03:35:21 -
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Double post /fail |

Braxus Deninard
Hard Knocks Inc.
468
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Posted - 2014.12.21 08:43:19 -
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This is gonna be good. |

Glyndi
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
269
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Posted - 2014.12.21 13:47:37 -
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Oh snap I get to be the first.....#POPCORN!! |

Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
838
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Posted - 2014.12.21 15:07:06 -
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Apollo Eros wrote:Andrew Jester wrote:Billy please offer your members lessons on how to make a proper callout thread, tia. -I was going to make a snide comment along the lines of "Just because you have been killing frigs in Thera | yada yada yada | wormholes | posting on Evo-Forums | then I stopped caring. -Effff it. You are horrible and just because you use to be in Sky Fighters and are now killing Frigs in Thera does not make your opinion or thoughts relevant. Regardless of where your bias may fall.  So pray tell give an example of quality call out threads because you make me wet with anticipation.
OH GOD THE KILLBOARD SURFING HAS STARTED ALREADY. Getting a little more testy than that ARMED1 guy aren't you. I think I finally feel like trinket :3 I'm not sure what the entire first paragraph had to do with anything, because if that was an attempt to come at me, it was p bad. Go back and look during the summer of evictions, those callout threads were danque as ****. This one is just sad. Why does everyone edit their **** :< You, Keith, I feel like I need to start quoting OPs before people ***** out
Peter Moonlight wrote:Andrew Jester wrote:Billy please offer your members lessons on how to make a proper callout thread, tia. I still remember ganking you while you were killing a POS in your wormhole, and seeing you couple more times running away from me. I also remember you trying to be "blue" with everyone in w-space by acting a puppy and talking sweet to 10+ public channels.. And one day you join SkyFighters/RLLO and you think you can just become another person  ? It doesn't go like that, long time residents of these forums will always remember true Andrew 
nomad that my corp lasted longer than Dire-Wolfrayet)) If you need some help keeping a corp alive, hit me up, I have some tips for you
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Torin Nazimar Jaynara
Blue-Fire
10
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Posted - 2014.12.21 15:18:19 -
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Pretty sure we got blue balled by you folks. When our Ishtar group is sitting on a wormhole just waiting or when we started bashing your tower, sitting in your poses just waiting for us to leave. One reason didn't escalate for you was the fact we were dealing with a reduced hole already.
Also certain sources had informed us you were trying to get others to take care of your work for you, so we sacrificed a tower for another day. |

Aladar Dangerface
Parallax Shift The Periphery
50
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Posted - 2014.12.21 16:47:53 -
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Could we get a little more of the background story for those of us no longer in the loop?
Also #popcorn
I don't need twitter.
I'm already following you.
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Apollo Eros
Jaded. The Natural Order
124
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Posted - 2014.12.21 17:37:36 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:
OH GOD THE KILLBOARD SURFING HAS STARTED ALREADY. Getting a little more testy than that ARMED1 guy aren't you. I think I finally feel like trinket :3 I'm not sure what the entire first paragraph had to do with anything, because if that was an attempt to come at me, it was p bad. Go back and look during the summer of evictions, those callout threads were danque as ****. This one is just sad. Why does everyone edit their **** :< You, Keith, I feel like I need to start quoting OPs before people ***** out
Yes Keith holla at your boi.... If you do not like the thread go to one of the many other quality how to pve wormhole edition threads in here.
Andrew Jester wrote: nomad that my corp lasted longer than Dire-Wolfrayet)) If you need some help keeping a corp alive, hit me up, I have some tips for you
I am pretty sure that he was not talking about how long the corp lasted but bringing up how you are a try hard.
Also when you cannot come up with any other words and just drop **** left and right to let the automatic word filter kick in, it is just classless.
Torin Nazimar Jaynara wrote: Pretty sure we got blue balled by you folks. When our Ishtar group is sitting on a wormhole just waiting or when we started bashing your tower, sitting in your poses just waiting for us to leave. One reason didn't escalate for you was the fact we were dealing with a reduced hole already.
Also certain sources had informed us you were trying to get others to take care of your work for you, so we sacrificed a tower for another day.
Are you high? Are you disabled in some type of way that you cannot recall events from a couple of days ago. Where you even there?
-You got blue balled because your fearless FC was angry that all the fail traps you set up did not work and did not want to get wrecked by us. Even during the last opportunity where I pointed one of your ships. I recall scram notification a yellow box on your side. Your buddies warping off because again fail FC polarized your fleet and you did not want to jump into a death trap that your little kitting friends would get squashed in. So you guys moon walked away. So props.
-Ask your ORCA pilot why he stage 2'ed your hole then? We were just as surprised about the fail call. We wanted caps. Also before you even start to talk about "how you cannot escalate". You had a null connection 1 jump from your home that was a level 0 jdc dread jump from a direct null connection in our home. I do not need to tell you this because you had a cloaked tengu in here. But please tell me how you could not escalate.
-What you see in a tower is not what exists so again fail intel. Again ask the orca that caught with his pants down due to fail intel.
-Ahhh yes "Certain sources" lets play this game. Well my mother's friend told her at the Vietnamese nail salon that you were talking to one of your blue-union friends about needing help as well. We all have friends that are horny for kills. Also sitting in a pub chat making connections is not viable intel.
-Thank you for the Large tower sacrifice. I am sure you will go run some more cap escalations to make up for it.
I would keep going on. but right now I am convinced that you have no idea about what happens on your screen.
Aladar Dangerface wrote: Could we get a little more of the background story for those of us no longer in the loop?
Also #popcorn
When I wake up I will get you a story. You may need to pop a second bag of Pocorn.
Is this what wormhole space has turned into? Personally I would rather read popcorn threads than the stuff I have been seeing lately. Is everyone scared of evictions? I think they are tasteless no one enjoys structure girding. But it seems like a majority of the WH community has turned into Fearless Carebears or People that take things to serious and want to batphone in all the friends for 72 hours of awesome system burning. Where are the good fights?
Where have all the cowboys gone?
Where have all the cowboys gone?
Where have all the cowboys gone?
[Triple OG LVL 5 Space Wizard]
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Richouse Gallentry
Blue-Fire
14
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Posted - 2014.12.21 18:22:49 -
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Aladar, Here's the story.
Earlier in the day, we opened up into Jaded's wormhole. They had a few guys online and we had a few guys online. After a bit of coaxing, Jaded began to play. Then suddenly, out of-the-blue, a legion warped to 50 and proceeded to burn for the WH we were waiting on. By the time it jumped through the hole it was fully nueted out and bleeding plenty of armor. It held it's cloak on the other side, then jumped back into its own WH. This is when a Falcon and some other ship (stealth bomber?) de-cloaked to support their Legion. Unfortunately for them, we made quick work of the Legion and forced the other 2 ships off-grid.
Why would a Legion burn through a small fleet and through an Armageddon's nuets, only to sacrifice themselves? The easy answer is they had a bigger plan, but that plan fell through. Our small group soon realized through the local smack-talking that they didn't have a plan at all... so Blue-Fire turned it's attention to WH's further down the pipe.
An hour and a half later, one of our Sabre pilots lost their ship, third-party style, to Jaded.
Believing that we were going to get a fight, one of our pilots was speaking with Audi in local-chat, and at some point during the local smack, Audi suggested that the best way to get a fight was to put up a tower in their hole. It could have been that our guy could've helped with that suggestion, but regardless, the challenge was accepted by our content-generating pilot. And the first-steps of planting a tower was initiated in the hopes for good-fights.
After a bit of trash-talking in local-chat, some Jaded corpies began bitching at themselves, and then Jaded slowly became an WH of activity. Over the course of the next couple of hours, they had logged in 4 Capitals, 9 T3's, and roughly a mix of 6 BS+BC, and a few tackle along with at least 3 scouts. Blue-Fire had a fleet of 6 Ishtars and logi. We also learned that they had the bat-phones out to all of their contacts (without even a semi-engagement) and assumed that someone had accepted the call. When our spy network confirmed that the bat-phone call was accepted, we figured that we'd soon be up against a fleet that would easily out-match ours.
As a bit more time ticked on Jaded had 7 Capitals, more T3's, roughly the same BS+SC, and a significant increase in tackle ships, Yet their fleet was still unwilling to tangle, they were still obviously waiting on their bat-phone fleet to arrive. This is when we realized that we were not going to get a fight without being out-manned 3-1. Then one of our WH connections became reduced. Which happened to connect to one of our exiled members. So our fleet gave up the ploy and proceed to change over to a "Bring in a Capital" operation.
When Jaded noticed that our fleet left. They brought a small fleet to guard one of their exits. And that is when one of our scouts decided to have fun with them and preformed a "Rooks and Kings" maneuver while they were bashing the POS we left behind.
Just keep in mind how long this recollection of events spanned. This literally was an all-day event. And even take into account the "ramp-up" time when things started to get serious, their "ramp-up" spanned the course of 3+ hours. |

Aladar Dangerface
Parallax Shift The Periphery
50
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Posted - 2014.12.21 18:39:43 -
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Richouse Gallentry wrote:Aladar, Here's the story.
Earlier in the day, we opened up into Jaded's wormhole. They had a few guys online and we had a few guys online. After a bit of coaxing, Jaded began to play. Then suddenly, out of-the-blue, a legion warped to 50 and proceeded to burn for the WH we were waiting on. By the time it jumped through the hole it was fully nueted out and bleeding plenty of armor. It held it's cloak on the other side, then jumped back into its own WH. This is when a Falcon and some other ship (stealth bomber?) de-cloaked to support their Legion. Unfortunately for them, we made quick work of the Legion and forced the other 2 ships off-grid.
Why would a Legion burn through a small fleet and through an Armageddon's nuets, only to sacrifice themselves? The easy answer is they had a bigger plan, but that plan fell through. Our small group soon realized through the local smack-talking that they didn't have a plan at all... so Blue-Fire turned it's attention to WH's further down the pipe.
An hour and a half later, one of our Sabre pilots lost their ship, third-party style, to Jaded.
Believing that we were going to get a fight, one of our pilots was speaking with Audi in local-chat, and at some point during the local smack, Audi suggested that the best way to get a fight was to put up a tower in their hole. It could have been that our guy could've helped with that suggestion, but regardless, the challenge was accepted by our content-generating pilot. And the first-steps of planting a tower was initiated in the hopes for good-fights.
After a bit of trash-talking in local-chat, some Jaded corpies began bitching at themselves, and then Jaded slowly became an WH of activity. Over the course of the next couple of hours, they had logged in 4 Capitals, 9 T3's, and roughly a mix of 6 BS+BC, and a few tackle along with at least 3 scouts. Blue-Fire had a fleet of 6 Ishtars and logi. We also learned that they had the bat-phones out to all of their contacts (without even a semi-engagement) and assumed that someone had accepted the call. When our spy network confirmed that the bat-phone call was accepted, we figured that we'd soon be up against a fleet that would easily out-match ours.
As a bit more time ticked on Jaded had 7 Capitals, more T3's, roughly the same BS+SC, and a significant increase in tackle ships, Yet their fleet was still unwilling to tangle, they were still obviously waiting on their bat-phone fleet to arrive. This is when we realized that we were not going to get a fight without being out-manned 3-1. Then one of our WH connections became reduced. Which happened to connect to one of our exiled members. So our fleet gave up the ploy and proceed to change over to a "Bring in a Capital" operation.
When Jaded noticed that our fleet left. They brought a small fleet to guard one of their exits. And that is when one of our scouts decided to have fun with them and preformed a "Rooks and Kings" maneuver while they were bashing the POS we left behind.
Just keep in mind how long this recollection of events spanned. This literally was an all-day event. And even take into account the "ramp-up" time when things started to get serious, their "ramp-up" spanned the course of 3+ hours.
Thanks for the back story, of course I'm sure there will be 2 sides to it tho. But speaking only from personal experience Iv had running into you guys in wh space I'd have to say you always came across as pretty honourable guys that didn't shy away from a fight. Never ran into jaded as far as I recall so I will reserve judgement.
As the muricans put it: just my 2 cents.
I don't need twitter.
I'm already following you.
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Billy Hardcore
Jaded. The Natural Order
279
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Posted - 2014.12.21 19:06:06 -
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some issues we have is with our groups youth and lack of large scale fleet pvp experience. Combine that with the major tz difference between your primarily AUtz and I assume blue fires eu-us tz?
#BillyFleet
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
840
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Posted - 2014.12.21 19:10:58 -
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Apollo Eros wrote:Andrew Jester wrote: nomad that my corp lasted longer than Dire-Wolfrayet)) If you need some help keeping a corp alive, hit me up, I have some tips for you
I am pretty sure that he was not talking about how long the corp lasted but bringing up how you are a try hard. Also when you cannot come up with any other words and just drop **** left and right to let the automatic word filter kick in, it is just classless.
How is trying hard a bad thing? You should follow my lead, maybe you'll get good P sure personal attacks aren't the classiest thing either, but you don't seem to have any problem with those. The hypocrisy is stunning 
Apollo Eros wrote: Where have all the cowboys gone?
The irony that you say this but still batphone for help. Topest of lels m88
Though I do agree that this is the most fun I've had with a thread in a while
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Apollo Eros
Jaded. The Natural Order
124
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Posted - 2014.12.21 19:18:48 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:Apollo Eros wrote:Andrew Jester wrote: nomad that my corp lasted longer than Dire-Wolfrayet)) If you need some help keeping a corp alive, hit me up, I have some tips for you
I am pretty sure that he was not talking about how long the corp lasted but bringing up how you are a try hard. Also when you cannot come up with any other words and just drop **** left and right to let the automatic word filter kick in, it is just classless. How is trying hard a bad thing? You should follow my lead, maybe you'll get good  P sure personal attacks aren't the classiest thing either, but you don't seem to have any problem with those. The hypocrisy is stunning  Apollo Eros wrote: Where have all the cowboys gone?
The irony that you say this but still batphone for help. Topest of lels m88 Though I do agree that this is the most fun I've had with a thread in a while
Everyone has friends. But sometimes you gotta smash an egg to make an Omlet..
Richouse Gallentry holy crap you were up for a while. I was on for maybe an hour top's. I just wish I brought some more space butter.
[Triple OG LVL 5 Space Wizard]
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Iris Sagitta
Blue-Fire
0
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Posted - 2014.12.21 19:59:29 -
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Confirming Blue-Fire is bad and should feel bad.
Billy Hardcore wrote:As ceo of jaded and executor of TNO Alliance I apologize for this posting. It does not accurately reflect the opinions or ideals of the memebers in either Jaded. Or J-bro is not our policy to trash talk and sh!t-post on the forums.
CEO sounds like he doesn't know how to have a good time. Trash talk and **** posting is 90% of the fun of eve 
I hear BF is recruiting btw ;) We know how to have fun
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Apollo Eros
Jaded. The Natural Order
124
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Posted - 2014.12.21 20:27:59 -
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Iris Sagitta wrote:Confirming Blue-Fire is bad and should feel bad. Billy Hardcore wrote:As ceo of jaded and executor of TNO Alliance I apologize for this posting. It does not accurately reflect the opinions or ideals of the memebers in either Jaded. Or J-bro is not our policy to trash talk and sh!t-post on the forums.
CEO sounds like he doesn't know how to have a good time. Trash talk and **** posting is 90% of the fun of eve  I hear BF is recruiting btw ;) We know how to have fun
Are you guys still affiliated with former Void-Legion current No Vacancies NVACA? They are pretty much to scum/aids/cancer of wormhole space. If not which diplo do I contact?
You guys do seem like you know how to bring a party. Also throwing around large towers like that shows your wallets are nice and phat. But honestly can we has a faction pos next time? I hear the drop rate was fixed...
https://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=27533
Now that would mean businesses!
[Triple OG LVL 5 Space Wizard]
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Iris Sagitta
Blue-Fire
1
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Posted - 2014.12.21 21:07:59 -
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Apollo Eros wrote:
Are you guys still affiliated with former Void-Legion current No Vacancies NVACA?
Who?
BF is old wh corp. We are acquainted with quite a few people. As for affiliated. BF is not connected to anyone. The closest affiliation we have is with Confederation of xXPizzaXx which is pretty loose arrangement. Really just an exchange of favors... or friends with benefits if you will  |

Thom Mangum
Blue-Fire
35
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Posted - 2014.12.21 21:47:07 -
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this thread is awful |

Richouse Gallentry
Blue-Fire
14
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Posted - 2014.12.21 23:13:37 -
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Apollo Eros wrote:
Richouse Gallentry holy crap you were up for a while. I was on for maybe an hour top's. I just wish I brought some more space butter.
Thanks for noticing that I like to play EVE Apollo.
However I can't help but notice that you were online "for an hour tops", yet you are the one with the biggest feeling of shame because you failed to get into the fight and decided to start a thread about it.
Were you among any of the dozens of ships huddled at your POS asking your FC the question "Why are we not engaging?".
The fact is that every single one of you has a button that grants you the ability to warp to anywhere in system, yet none of you pushed it until long after our modest-sized fleet lost its desire to wait for the 3v1 we weren't going to take on. One can't expect Blue-Fire to wait for a Chia-Pet to grow while waiting for you to respond to your ping(s). |

Billy Hardcore
Jaded. The Natural Order
279
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Posted - 2014.12.21 23:28:47 -
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Thom Mangum wrote:this thread is awful Agreed
#BillyFleet
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Ion Udan
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
92
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Posted - 2014.12.22 01:22:09 -
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This thread would've been alot better if it didnt have all the retractions.
Create bad blood, make enemies, seek revenge, create content and motivation to shoot each other.
Also, confirming Jester is a bad man, he's tricksy and will lead you down a path to destruction :)
[u]RudinV:-á[/u]"2dreadnoughts with agro Vs 5 rly mad guys;)"
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Peter Moonlight
Balkan Asylum
82
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Posted - 2014.12.22 01:24:59 -
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Ion Udan wrote:This thread would've been alot better if it didnt have all the retractions.
Create bad blood, make enemies, seek revenge, create content and motivation to shoot each other.
Also, confirming Jester is a bad man, he's tricksy and will lead you down a path to destruction :) Exactly, let's spice up the game in w-space, make some conflict and some big enemies
Btw, one of these 2 groups should seriously logoff trap each other, that would create such a good thread, like in the good ol` days  |

Iris Sagitta
Blue-Fire
1
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Posted - 2014.12.22 01:45:02 -
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Yea especially since you can logoff trap people with a few bombers now :D |

Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
844
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Posted - 2014.12.22 03:21:13 -
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Ion Udan wrote:This thread would've been alot better if it didnt have all the retractions.
I go ham, also retracting is too much effort
Ion Udan wrote:Also, confirming Jester is a bad man, he's tricksy and will lead you down a path to destruction :)
Do you still need that HK diplo))?
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Ion Udan
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
92
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Posted - 2014.12.22 05:10:36 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:Ion Udan wrote:This thread would've been alot better if it didnt have all the retractions. I go ham, also retracting is too much effort Ion Udan wrote:Also, confirming Jester is a bad man, he's tricksy and will lead you down a path to destruction :) Do you still need that HK diplo))?
I think I'm good at the moment thanks, but I'll be sure to contact you directly next time its needed  |

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
824
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Posted - 2014.12.22 08:00:18 -
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You've got me intrigued guys. So what was the point of Legion maneuver? |
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